Ashley Truitt Entry Updated
Just like the title says, the People You’ll See In Hell entry for Ashley Truitt has been updated.
Evidently her friends think PYSIH.com is being a little hard on her.
If her friends think we’re hard, imagine how hard her fellow inmates will be on her when she’s found guilty of murdering her newborn baby girl.
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Fuck this website I knew her in every way she was a good person and had a bright future people make mistakes its human nature and sometimes they get in situations that they dont know how to deal with why dont you tell the good in someone instead of the bad you ignorant pathetic nerds focus on urself and stop blogging about somebody who you never met and you saying hard shit she’s gunna get thru all this she’s tough as shit swith it up cause you could’t stand a week in ther peace
J you are an ignorant dumbfuck. Yes we all make mistakes but your little friend Ashley didn’t make a mistake here. She cut the ubicall cord and wrapped her baby in a plastic bag and threw it away!!!
How in the fuck is that a mistake. She fricking murdered her own child and you, being the dumbass bitch that you are think you have the right to come on here and run your big fat mouth about how tough her life is. She is old enough to know what she did was wrong, yet she did it and now it is time to pay!
She has such a hard time in life. Our lives are as hard as we make it.
We all make choices that is either right or wrong and she made the wrong choice when she opened her legs!
“Fuck this website…”
Come with me to hell, J.
Together we will eat the flesh of fallen angels. I will look at your pale rotten corpse. Let’s allow it to oxidize and decay. I am the absolute. Can we both agree, yes?
“One Journey”
The slip of the smooth stones etched his fate. It will be everlasting owning to his witless stability.
The blood transfigured all guilt within.
Punishment was sure to follow.
The stones carved a twisting path to his end. Legions of angels agreed to death.
Walk down the path, whilst the righteous gaze upon. Their eyes black and their mouths harp low monotones in unison.
Blood from within pours from wounds of the past. Dark encircles your step swathing your soul.
One fate, one moment, one “J”ourney…
LOL Turtle, you are just to smart for me.
I feel so simple minded when I read your deep thoughts :-)
You are so right. I agree 110 percent with everything you said. Really there are some stupid, uneducated idiots living around.
you dont know shit about ashley, got it? she was a great person and always will be! yes, she made a mistake but you know what its not like you know what she went through in her life. when she was young, she did have a hard life and she didnt chose that! she wanted to a normal person that grew up and had a great life. her mind went into 700 different directions when the stuff happened. look, im trying to be nice but come on, the girl was 18, give her a break. she knows what she did was wrong now let it go. it been almost 3 years and people are still going to bother her about this in 20. so just let it go. plzz. im begging you. she really is a good person and wants to be loved just like you or i..
“Great Person”
This is an interesting assertion. In the English language we have these things called Definitions, that are maintained in two places, the language centers of our brains and dictionaries. “Great” is an adjective, it means “big” or “large.” The bigger the better, used to be a phrase that helped the word “Great” become important. Additionally people forget that Pippin the short, and Peter the Great, probably started off associated with their sizes. Peter was 6’8″ and towered over his relatives. His plans were big. His changes to the Russian empire, included massive plans for industrialization. His vision was great, so a play on words took in his massive height and his massive vision. He was great.
Other than a 4th grade homework assignment or a hand turkey in Kindergarten, Ashley Truitt has never done anything great. She might be fat, but her one claim to fame, her 15 minutes in the spotlight are for killing a child and disposing of it in the most gruesome way of convenience she could find.
Is she really fat? Is she over a 1000 lbs? Thus far it’s the only thing that can make her “Great” right now.
That brings me to the word Person… We reserve this word for human beings. Human beings are mammals. We nurture our young, have these things called mammary glands which we use to feed our children, and then care for them over this long period of childhood where they’re helpless for a longer period of time than normal, so their brains have a chance to develop into the most advanced organic processing machines known… well, to man.
So… did she have a human child? Yes! Yes she did.
Does she have mammary glands? Well, I’m guessing she does, but that’s an assumption. Did she care for her child?
Whoops, not only is she not a human being, she’s not even a mammal anymore. She’s alive, but a person? We have slightly higher standards than breathing for being a person. In point of fact, because you invoked the Sociological meaning of the word person, by trying to defend her status as a “Great Person” she’d have to abide by social norms for our culture. Killing babies isn’t a norm in our culture, despite what some might say. No majority participates in it.
As I’ve said several times, people who post on the internet, typing their words away, are responsible for the content within them. Words mean something. Language is a tool that should be kept the sharpest, since you use it for everything of importance you will ever do. Sharpen up your mind, analyze what it’s good for and learn that you have a weakness, that needs to be salved.
i realize that the english language has a meaning to every word. but listen, 1 i fall asleep in the shitty class. 2 she is a great person. she has more than that shit in school to be a great person. yes she made a fucking mistake but it’s not like deep down she wanted to do it. people in this world do the things that are at the front of their mind, not in the back. and she thought that she was doing the right thing. i truly don’t think that she threw Julieanne down the shoot. i think that she put it in a closet so someone could find her and that didn’t happen. can we change the past though? do you remember in 8th grade of even high school, when all your friends said, “the past is the past, lets be friends again”? the past IS the past. and like i said, i know she made a mistake. im not saying she didn’t but people shouldn’t be saying that she’s a terrible person cuz of one thing that she did. yes, it was a big thing, but we have all done big, bad things in our lives..
STSA-She made a “mistake” only in the sense that what she did is irreversible… we can’t change the fact that her child is dead in a particularly shitty way. But an adult she was, and an adult she is, despite her state of mind. And as adults, better yet, as human beings we are somewhat responsible for our actions. This is not Jr. High or High school… she did not steal someone’s boyfriend or call them fat behind their backs. She killed a baby, either through negligence or through malice.
Honestly, convicted or not, do you think she’d come out and say she wanted that baby dead? Hell no, she’d lose all the support and “love” she’s getting from her friends and family if she said that. So if she pushed that baby down the chute or not, I doubt you’d get the full story from her.
What she did was heinous and unforgiveable. Time will pass, but the crime endures. Perhaps she will come to embrace her fault in the matter and maybe she can even become a role model to others. I agree with Jason however, wordplay aside… she did lose the title of “great” when she became a murderer, however it happened. She may be a good person inside but she is also a fool who killed the person who would have LOVED HER MOST in this world. And that is the saddest thing about this story…
Good people don’t murder their children, good people realize that there are options. Good people don’t take lives. Good people don’t throw out excuses for murderers, good people don’t PREMEDITATE the birth, murder and disposal of a newborn infant. Good people make better choices than that, that was the evil, easy way out for her, out of sight-out of mind-go on with vacation. How quaint. Fuck her and you for defending her, what about the baby? Who defended the baby?
J,
If you feel the need to defend this murderer, perhaps it was a mistake that the baby wasn’t you. Babies grow up, some become people like us, who know right from wrong, some become whiny fucking pussies like yourself, and try to rationalize the unmistakable act of KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.
I’m with Max and Turtle. God help you if people ever found out who you are.
Fuckin bitch.
“Aequitas per populas” – Ghost
FUCK YOU. She knew what she was doing when was sleeping around. She knew, (I assume) she has some sort of brain that she could get pregnant.So why not use protection. She killed a poor innocent baby who was unfortunate to be born to such a horrible, undeserving person and she should burn in hell. She should be made have an mandatory hysterectomy. And I can tell you she deserves everything she gets when she goes to prison and believe me she will go to prison. from a mother of 2 babies.
J i completely agree with u. she is a good person. this website is fuckin bullshit. The story told about her on here is just someones blurred opinion of what happened cuz no one knows what happened besides her. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this site goes to far. i dated ashley for 7 months. i think everyone on here with a negative opinion deserves to be in a straight jacket. most of them are demented as most serial killers.
you dated her for seven months?…have you thought..that maybe…the child she threw in the trash…could have been yours…i’m not saying it was…i’m saying…it could have been…..would you still be defending the baby killer then?
I was going to go off on you myself asshole, but I went back to Ashley’s original story to refresh my memory, and came across this comment by a PYSIH regular. His words say what I’m feeling much better than I could ever do:
“Mulch reply on May 21st, 2008:
Funny how my mother told me many times that should would have rather died then anything happen to either me or my brother. My wife, the mother of our child hsa many times said the same thing.
I was put in to a position that I had to defend my daughter against a dog. I carry the scars with pride knowing my my daughter has none.
So FUCK YOU AND FUCK THE MURDERING CUNT THAT MURDERED HER OWN BABY.”
Ditto
Good deal Max. Thanks for the shout out.
My actions still stand as well as my words.
J she was a self serving cunt who only thought about herself. She never once lost an ounce thinking about her baby. There are millions of couples who would kill to adopt a child. to raise as their own, to love and care for. Why didn’t she give her child a chance? Why did she murder a human being?
Why is she still breathing and her child is not? What did she get for Christmas? Does she want to return it becasue it wasn’t what she wanted?
Hang the cunt and have done with it. She is not worth my talents or Turtles.
Wow…so it’s official! People who associated with the pos on this site have NOT YET mastered the english language! So so sad….J, how dare you come here and disrepect that innocent childs memory by saying this cunt is a good person! SHE WAS 18! SHE HAD CHOICES! PP distributes birth control w/o parents having to be involved! Yea Sometimes people end up with unplanned pregnancies, but when you play grown up games(unprotected sex) you KNOW THE RISKS! I don’t give a fuck what she’s done before this, she murdered an innocent baby cuz she was too lazy to tell whoever fucked her to wear a condom and too lazy to obtain birth control. THEN she decides to kill the baby that resulted from her stupidity, instead of taking responsibility for her actions and being a mother. She deserves Hell plain and simple. Now go find a site that sympathizes with baby killers this isn’t it.
She didnt make a mistake, she made many mistakes, starting with not using birth control. Then she started sleeping around so much that she couldnt tell for sure who the daddy was. The third mistake was not telling her parents. And the fourth was thinking she could get away with throwing away her baby.
Fuck her and fuck you J. You say you knew her in every way, so i gather you were one of boys between her thighs. Do you miss your weekly leg over?
God bless Ashley and her little baby. There but for the grace of God go all of us, because any one of us is capable of making a horrific error in judgement at a time of great personal crisis. She made a choice to have sex, not to become a parent, and there IS a difference, although she clearly didn’t know how to deal with the consequences. It grieves me that the young mothers in these cases always carry all the blame by themselves while the boys/men who fathered their unwanted babies never have to help shoulder any responsibility for the tragedies to follow. Here’s hoping Heaven is far more forgiving than the folks on this blog seem to be.
yes eva, humans are caable of anything, that doesn’t mean they’ll DO anything. if you make a choice to have risky sex, you are making a choice to become a parent, and at the age of 18, she did know how to deal with the consequences. your friend ashley was just a lazy selfish bitch who decided she was going to do things her way, and her way was the wrong way. please explain to me what makes you believe she knew nothing about condoms, birthcontrol pills, the morning after pill, abortion, or adoption? if she had ever heard of even one of these, then she clearly DID know how to deal with the consequences. it grieves me that young mothers carry all the blame, too. but only when those young mothers bust their asses to support their children in any way while the deadbeat fathers continue to live life as usual without a care in the world. excuse me for having no sympathy for the female in this case, as i can’t help but to believe that being a newborn murdering mom is far worse that being an absentee dad. and if this bitch is looking for forgiveness, she damn well better hope heaven is more forgiving than we are because we hate people who harm children. just bear in mind a few things:
John 14:15- “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
wasn’t one of the commandments “thou shalt not kill”, eva?
Matthew 19:13-15 – “Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.”
didn’t jesus place a great value on children, eva?
Matthew 18:6- “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
if jesus felt that a person harming a child would be better off drowning himself with the aid of a weight, what makes you think that he’s going to give ashley a hug and a pass and wave her on into heaven, eva? take your “holier than thou” b.s. to some babykiller sympathy site. you’re not dealing with a bunch of dummies here. you’re in the wrong spot.
Too late for God to be blessing Ashley, don’t you think? Why would he want to? I wouldn’t. I don’t see murdering a baby an ‘error in judgement’ – and I really doubt that I am capable of murdering a child.
Your attempt to minimize what she did is scary. How can you believe what she did was just an ‘oopsy’?
Since I really don’t care for your attitude or thought process, is it okay for me to wrap you up in a plastic bag? I could say I over reacted a tad bit, made a bit of an error in judgement, I won’t do it again – is that the way it goes, Eva?
If you choose to have sex, you choose to make a baby. That is a biological fact.
If she chose to not be a parent, there are better options than stuffing a kid into a wastebasket. Adoption, maybe? Just throwing that out there.
I don’t have any empathy or sympathy for people that make irresponsible choices. Ashley did what she did. End of story. Ashley is now officially a waste of space and anybody that is on her side is pathetic.
Eva, you can go hang with your buddy in hell.
An error in judgement!!! Hands up everyone who mistakenly wrapped their baby up in a plastic bag…..eternal? NO. Max? NO. Lena? NO. I know i sure as hell never made that ‘mistake.’
That was a really patheitc attempt at defending your friends actions.
“I accidentally pushed her out of my scabby vag, then accidentally found a plastic bag, then accidentally put baby into aforementioned plastic bag, then accidentally found a trash chute where bag was balanced, before I tripped and fell, pushing the baby in plastic bag (accidentally of course) into a dumpster.”
Of course we’ve all made that mistake. It’s a simple one like forgetting to turn off the stove, or feeding the gold fish, or putting your child in a dryer, then turning it on and walking away.
Oh no Eva, you’re not going to come here and apply “There but for the grace of God go I.” to THIS evil wench. That’s the kind of thing you say about a victim, or a cancer patient, or maybe even a dead baby who’s mother was too selfish and self centered to abandon it at a hospital or give it up for adoption, but it hasn’t got a God Damned thing to do with Ashley here. When you not only take your LIVING new born baby and toss it down a laundry chute to die, but PLAN to do it, you are not a victim, you are a victimizer. Oh yes, and a murderer. So I’ll save my forgiveness for someone who deserves it. As you can see from the response you’ve been getting to your idiotic comment, there’s a high sense of moral outrage over what Ashley did, and it’s not limited to just this website, as much as you’d like to believe it is. Think about it, back to the day when you had a moral compass that worked and you didn’t have some kind of ridiculous feminist agenda that allowed you to absolve a convicted baby killer of her guilt and put it all on her babydaddy (who, I might add, had no involvement in the killing). Remember those days? Did you have a severe head injury since then? Did you contract dementia or Alzheimer’s disease? Or perhaps you’re just a complete idiot and you’ve always felt this way. Whatever the case, please, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up. Thank you for your cooperation.
Eva I have been many things in my life. I have made misatkes that I am not proud of. But the major differences are:
1) my mistakes never took the life of another human being
2) I have worked hard to correct those errors. I am still working to correct a few.
See the differences?
Now Eva please piss of!
I’m sorry, Eva, but when she made the choice to have UNPROTECTED SEX she made the choice to become a parent. Everyone makes bad choices, and hell when I was 17 I did dumb things. I had unprotected sex and me and my son’s father ended up pregnant. And I did hide it..for four months. Then I OWNED UP TO MY RESPONSIBILITIES AND ASKED FOR HELP! When she spread her legs and DID NOTHING IN THE WAY OF BIRTH CONTROL she KNEW ultimatley she would get pregnant! As for the father SHE DOESN’T KNOW WHO HE IS so it’s hard to hold him accountable if we can’t pin down who it is! We don’t have to forgive Ashley there were FAR TO MANY options for her. My sympathy is with the baby.
and furthermore eva, you’re bullshit about ashley not knowing anything about alternatives has been proven wrong. read the details here:
http://punauni.freeblogit.com/2008/12/22/teen-gets-13-years-in-pompano-beach-killing-of-newborn/
Whoa Whoa WAIT! I did not know all that! She was adopted herself? Did I read that right?! OMG! AND she researched how to deliver at home? She planned that shit the whole time?
yep. and i was totally taken aback at the fact that she herself was an adoptee. that and the web searches make me think she deserves an extra hot and humid spot right next to satan.
As long as she’s on the other side of the room and not sitting next to me.
hee hee.
She took the time to research how to have a baby at home…..I really have no sympathy for her now. I put a post on the original thread stating that she could have taken the time to find help by looking on the internet and finding an organization that could help her. After reading that she took the time to research how to have a baby at home and the fact that she was adopted, but she couldn’t research how to make sure her own baby would get help or get adopted really makes me sick. As far as all these people that are making excuses for her saying she was raped at 10, she was scared to tell her mom, she was young, blah….blah….blah! First, her being raped at 10 has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. If she is saying that it does, then she is just looking for an excuse to justify her actions. Second, she was 18 years old and a legal adult, so she did not have to tell her mom or her family. She was old enough to make arrangements to have the baby without her family ever knowing about it. She could have gotten in touch with an agency and they would have helped her make the arrangements so that she could have had the baby without anyone ever knowing. Third, I understand she may be young, but at 18 years old – she is a legal adult. She laid down and got pregnant, so she should have tried to handle the situation responsibly. There is nothing that this girl can say to justify her actions. It boils down to the fact that she was more concerned about herself than her baby. Ashley Truitt was too lazy and selfish to handle this properly. This baby could have been given to a family that can not have children and I’m sure that this child would have been given a good life, but Ashley was more concerned that her boyfriend would find out that she had been screwing around on him. This case is a perfect example that this is a big difference between parents and breeders. This girl is an example of a breeder. A parent is someone who loves their children and would die before they let anything happen to the child and they make sure that their child’s mental, physical, emotional, and financial needs and wants are met before their own needs and wants. A breeder is someone who has kids without thinking about the consequences or the costs of raising a child, someone who has kids on purpose because it gets them financial assistance from the government, or because their just too damn lazy to use birth control. Sadly, there is way to many children that are born to breeders. It’s sad to see people that want to have children and they can’t. These people would do anything to become parents, but they are unable to have that baby they want so much. Then you have fucktards like Ashley that can have kids and she throws the baby out like a piece of garbage. It’s so unfair that people like her are given this gift of being able to have children, while others are not as lucky.
I wonder where is Eva now to defend this bitch?:)
I notice people like Eva tend to post their bullshit and never come back.:) Maybe she found a “poor Ashley Truitt” site.
I think that deep down she knew she was talking utter shit and was too ashamed to come back for a repeat, lol.
That’s probably true, Amy:) I get SOOO fed up by the “she made an error in judgement” “she was young and scared defense” I was 17 and weeks away from my college orientation when I told my mom I was preggers. My mom was a MAJOR control freak and is extremly protective over me. After hiding it for so long however it was such a release to tell her and my dad that I didn’t care how mad they were. They were hot tho! Mom berated me for like two weeks and dad didn’t talk to me until the night I had my son. It hurt, but now they can’t live w/o my son or daughter:) I can’t imagine genuinely loving your child and hurting them like this. To me these bitches look lazy and selfish. They don’t want these babies, they just see them as obstacles to doing what they want.
HEre’s what I don’t get. You see your child as an obstacle. You decide to go ahead and carry it to term. You deliver it at home, in what can only be an amazingly painful experience… And instead of walking down the street to the fire station, or a hospital and dropping the kid off, you walk down o a fucking dumpster and drop the kid off. What… kind of sense does that make? It would have been so very simple to have given that baby to someone else. It’s another of life’s great mysteries.
they just dont care diana. their selfishness takes over any other feeling. It must.
As for child birth, while its not a walk in the park, it really wasnt that bad of an experience for me. I went back five times and had all naturally.
It hurt…but the second that your baby is in your arms the hurt is just a memory and you child erases all the pain that happened only moments before.
its a beautiful thing;)
Thanks Amy. I need to hear lots of good birth stories! Haha, I’m terrified.
Not scared enough to do any baby dumping likt Ashley Twatlitt here though.
you wanna hear some shit? i spent 18 and 40 minutes hours in labor with my son. i wasn’t dilating so i had to walk all over the hospital for about 3 hours with back labor pains. then i vomited all over the floor from the epidural, lol. then you know how they say the second child is easier? well, i spent 21 hours in labor with my daughter. when they broke my water they found that she had passed the meconium while inside me (google it). then they botched the epidural, so ONLY my left leg was numb, and that didn’t wear off until the next day so i almost collapsed when i got up to go pee.
marinate on all that for awhile (i’m probably going to go to hell for telling you that before birth, lol).
that’s *18 hours and 40 minutes*
holy shit dude.
Seriously, eternal, my vagina already hurts from reading that. Not sure I will be passing on the epidural, but it sounds like it didn’t do much for you.
Meconium I’m pretty familiar with- did she have pneumonia or anything from it later?
I showed up for a couple of my kid’s births – it seemed like my wife was doing okay. What’s the big deal? Women take to birthing like they take to shopping and crying.
I don’t cry, mister.
Well Miwist I don’t understand it either.
When my daughter was born at work I broke a finger. No big deal for me as it happened all the time. That same day my wife went in to labor. Bout freaking time all the hormone bullshit might just come to an end. Pickels at 3 AM!! Fuck that shit.
Anyway I gave my then wife my hand to hold forgetting about the broken finger. I could honestly feel the bones grinding. I screamed, she screamed and the nurse that it was cute.
About halfway through my wife got some drugs for the pain. I DIDN’T!!!!
Ladies if you want to know what pain is break 2 ribs where one punctured the lung at the same time have pnumonia. Labor can be long but not 2 weeks of hell on earth in a hospital bed. And women honestly try to say that they can take more pain?? pfffft they don’t know pain.
Should I tell the stories about Ranger School?
LOl. You guys are MEAN!!!
I gotta agree with Mulch about the pain thing tho…for me, getting a tattoo was worse than giving birth.
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
The last tat I got I fell asleep! My first one (right upper arm) I was dozing!
Amy…..AMY!!!
Pregnancy is always the chicks fault. It ain’t normal for anyone to want to have sex with a man, it is normal to want to have sex with a woman.
Therefore, men are only doing what is natural, while women are engaging in an unnatural act – they are actively volunteering to become pregnant. It’s their responsibility.
Well, I have quite a few tattoos… And haven’t had any problem with those. Somehow, this doesn’t sound like it will be as easy to deal with as the tattoos were. Cause it involves the vagina. Anything that is gonna be ripping that up sounds worse than a tattoo to me.
I only have the one Mulch. I got it as a 30th birthday pressie for myself. Id just gone through a really bad break up the year before and had learned a lot about myself and streanghths i never knew i had.
I got the chineese sign for streangth and surrounded by my kids initials to signify that my children are what keeps me stong.
Its on my back near my left shoulder…
i wouldn’t pass on the epidurla if i were you, diana. it did wonders for the first birth (when they actially did it right). thankfully, my daughter did not have any side effects from the meconium, other than poo in her hair. and that crap about tattoos being worse than birth, bullshit. i have 4 tats and i would rather get them all day than the pain of childbirth. tats are only bad when they’re outlining. birth is like having a st. bernard bust through your kitty door. and you feel that the whole time, lol.
Im starting to think i must have a big hole…lol…cause for me, it wasnt that bad.
The worst was my last, and that hurt like hell, but he was induced and a dry birth…a very different experience from all the others.
I watched the vid of my neice being born and my sister was pushing for a full 27 mins just to get her head out. Me…i pushed once for the head and once for the rest of the body.
When i was in labour with my last, it was my daughters 2nd birthday, so i walked to the bakery to pick up her cake and the women there were like, ‘what do you mean your in labour?’ LOL…the looks on their faces…
but then i went home and hung the decorations and stuff for my daughters party and made some cup cakes.
Unfortunately i missed her birthday party, but by the next day, my son was born and she was so excited to have a new baby brother to pick on, i dont think she cared that i missed her birthday.
I was home three days after my first, 18 hours after my second and 6 hours after my third.
My 4th was longer, but only because she was ill ( low blood sugar levels) and i was there for three weeks. And my youngest was about 4 days, for the same reason as my daughter…low sugar levels.
Id do it again in a heart beat. But wont due to the fact that children cost money and another would blow the budget and i want to give my kids the best.
The hard part is raising them. At two, they change into little monsters…the terrible two’s…but its a misleading title, because they never grow out of the terrible two’s. The just get bigger. The terrible two’s end when they grow up and leave home lol.
what’s a dry birth? should i know that already?
When your water breaks and baby is born soon after, its easier. When your water breaks and baby does not come till hours and hours later…its a dry birth….no lube hurts more….that sounds terrible i know.
All mine, with the exception of the last came out as my water broke….easy:)
Wow hats off too Amy! Natural… 5 times! I couldn’t do it, I labored for 42 hours with my son and AS SOON as i could get my epidural I was READY!:) My daughter was a breeze tho.. only eight hours:)
Ok, the first time I was too chicken shit to go inside the delivery room. The second time, I did go in and I SAW everything. It was amazing.
My gf at that time kicked my ass and she turned into a totally different person in that room.
She instructed me to call a nurse because the pains were getting to much to bear.
I told her, “Don’t worry honey, it will be ok.”
Then she said, “Quit fucking around and get a nurse in here NOW!
I was afraid.
I can remember the first time, and i was in the delivery room and in a fair amout of pain. i was thinking…not long now…and then i could hear this other chick in the room up from me screaming her box off. it scared the shit outta me, and i figured that labour must get a hell of a lot worse and that i was in for a long night. I was terrified!!! And ten minutes later my son was born.
I didnt scream with any of them. Didnt even cry. Grunted a lot and almost hyperventilated at one stage, but it was all good!!!
Turtle I have heard the same voice. It sounds like it is coming from the deepest pits of hell. Maybe even satin himself is speaking…..
I was there when my daughter was born. I gave her her first bath. She didn’t cry. all the nurses were worried that she didn’t cry. They wanted to give her a smack on her butt. they decided against it when I told them what would happen if they did.
The way I figured she would have more than enough time to cry. She was happy and she smiled after her bath.
The afterbirth was disgusting though. I thought my wife was giving birth to Alien or something. I almost yacked.
Yeah, me too.
And these goddamn nurses are standing around acting like having a baby is the most natural thing in the world. Bunch of goddamn freaks.
Jesus!!! Women have been having babies for millions of years, its not that big of a deal…REALLY!!!
I mean, its special and all, but the actual act of giving birth is just another part of life.
For fucks sake, we put up with men on a daily basis, and bleeding every month…..
Hey, I have to deal with men everyday too.
I really don’t expect any sympathy but I deserve it. This band-aid on my pinkie was put there to stop BLEEDING. And I’m pretty damn sure this won’t be the only paper cut I get this month. These happen several times a month and they HURT.
Oh…so not the same, lol.
Well Amy you can get that bellding taken care of….
Stop yer crying and get yer hubby a beer! Then make dinner.
Yes Master;)
You be learnin.
yeah, my hubby also says he was cool til the afterbirth popped out. i think he said he almost fainted. lol
eternal-I don’t know what a dry birth is, but it sounds really bad:’(
LOL @ “sheisty trollup.”
In response to a way earlier post from Eva (sorry Im a little behind)…but anyways, didnt I read that she kept the pregnancy a secret from EVERYONE. Well, for Eva to say
” It grieves me that the young mothers in these cases always carry all the blame by themselves while the boys/men who fathered their unwanted babies never have to help shoulder any responsibility for the tragedies to follow”,
kinda makes her sound a little dumb and uninformed. How could she expect any kind of support from anyone if she hid the information from everyone, including the sperm donor who knocked her up? Im absolutely not disagreeing that it happens way too often; women being forced to deal with a baby when a man can walk away free and clear, but whos to say whoever he was would have had she told him. Whos to say had she spoke up instead of being a sheisty trollup that things wouldnt have been different? I guess we will never know what shoulda coulda woulda happened…all we know is what actually did happen. And that is, the fact that she took that baby and wrapped it in a trash bag and threw it down a trash-chute for the plain and simple reason that she is heartless and only cared what EVERYONE ELSE thought about her instead of what that baby would think about her. I hope the memories terrorize her for a long time to come.
She was sentenced to 13 years and she’ll be released only in 2020. 13 years without boys for this little cunt, only with women. She’ll regret being fucked without condom.
It is so funny how judgemental the people on this site are towards those they don’t know. I feel sorry for the people that view this site and believe that their harsh personal opinions on anyone person on this site needs to be heard. The hatred this site mongers is ridculous. No person, I don’t care what they have done, deserves such terrible comments. We live in a world with so much pain and sadness and most of the people on this site just add to that. I wish you people were more understanding. I wish you all could open your eyes and see the full picture.
I mean how the world can you people site on this site and wish such horibble things on people. How can you say you want my friend to be raped in prison for “murder” with such little evidence?
Ashley is a dear friend of mine. She saved my life, a few times actually. She is a kind caring person and she is scared as hell right now. I wish there were sites just about supporting those in such awful situations.
The only reason you people are so mad at Ashley is because you are sad. Sad because a child lost it’s life. The babies name was Julieanne.
The fact the child had a name hasn’t even crossed your minds. I doubt any of you really even care.
I doubt any of you would bother reading this letter sent by Ashley’s family regarding the lack of and none existence of an investigation in what happened to baby Julieanne. I will post the link….
http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20090107/NEWS01/90107006/1079/news01
I ask all you to view why you put so much hate out in the world when all we really need is love. Please don’t miss direct your sadness to make yourself feel better. Express your sorrow and regret for this tradgedy. Be a better person.
Ashley I love you, all of us back home love you.
You don’t deserve prison, you deserve the love and support of your friends and family. You deserve a life outside those bars. You deserve to be happy, just as every single other person on this planet.
more proof that denial is not just a river in egypt
-editor
Devin
First of all, I for one don’t give a rats fat ass what you think of me.
Second, Ashley deserves more than what we left her in comments. Trust me, if I had the chance I would tell her to her face she is a pathic piece of shit.
Third. You dam right I am sad because of Julieanne. I am sad for that baby not having a chance of life all because her dumbass of a mom decided to take her life.
i don’t give a shit how old she was or how scared she was. SHE KNEW BETTER. She knew it was wrong. Why in the hell could she not just took the chance and tell her parents that she was pregnant? Fuck, happens all the time and parents forgive kids. We are only human and will always make mistakes but what this little bitch did was NO mistake.
Ashley
You don’t deserve prison, you deserve the same treatment that you gave little Julieanne. You may have the love and support of your friends and family but bitch you don’t deserve that…. You suck
Yeah, wow obviously you didn’t take in too much of what I put out there.
No I didn’t take in much of what you put out there… I don’t like bullshit
Holy shit! The butler did it! Oh wait, I’m sorry, the mysterious disorientated maid did it. And Ashley was disorientated too, right? If we believe the scenario that the family’s letter would like us to believe, there was a lot of disorientating (is that a word? Ah, who cares? The Truitts are making stuff up, so why can’t I?) going on that night.
Listen Devin, I have a lot of respect for people who stay loyal to their friends no matter what. but your pathetic attempt to guilt-trip us into feeling sorry for a baby killer has caused me to make an exception in your case. I read the letter, and it’s just the typical mix of half truths, speculation, and outright lies that family members and supporters post on websites, link to when they comment on blogs, and spew to anyone who’s dumb enough to listen. The “Idiot’s Guide to Law” explanation of Ashley’s plea to “Aggravated Manslaughter” was a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Allow me to inform you of the LEGAL DEFINITION of said offense:
A person is guilty of aggravated manslaughter if (he/she) recklessly causes the death of another person under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
In order for you to find the defendant guilty of aggravated manslaughter, the State is required to prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
(1) that the defendant caused (insert victim’s name) death, and
(2) that the defendant did so recklessly, and
(3) that the defendant did so under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
Hmmm….any of that ring a bell Devin? I’m hearing a dozen alarm clocks myself.
Ashley is exactly where she belongs, and if Detective Champagne’s actions added years to her sentence, I’d like to be the first person to publicly thank him for it.
The editor even took a stab at me, thats hilarious. Seems kind of childish, but still pretty amusing.
Wow. Dude, wow. Who named the baby? I find it kind of strange that you are all of the sudden telling us the name of a baby who no one cared about until after her death… And expecting that to inspire SYMPATHY for the woman who caused that baby’s death. I read the article you mentioned. This was one of my favorite parts of that article:
“Yes, leaving a child at a site that is not approved by the Safe Haven laws, is illegal. However, we believe Ashley left her baby at the safest place she could find. She did not leave Julieanne out in the rain, but wrapped her in a towel and placed her on other towels. She did not leave her in the hallway, where some drunk might find her, but instead left her behind a door where because of the trail of blood, it was likely some responsible person would find her.”
I lol’d pretty good at the part that said “the safest place she could find.” It doesn’t even matter if they “think” Ashley didn’t put the baby down the trash chute (I am wondering, though, who exactly do they think did that, hmmm? One armed man, right?), the fact remains that this woman made selfish, stupid decisions that caused the death of a baby. I do not care that she was scared. That does not render her unable to call 911 and tell them where they could safely find her baby wrapped up in towels. No, even if she didn’t drop the baby down the chute, she abandoned her in a place where no one was meant to find her. I read in the parents letter that she couldn’t call 911 because it would have brought too many police. Kind of worth it when another person’s life is at risk, wouldn’t you say? It didn’t dawn on any of you that this girl had NINE freaking months to come up with a better option. Please, just stop with the defense. This girl did what she did, and deserves the punishment she got.
“The only reason you people are so mad at Ashley is because you are sad. Sad because a child lost it’s life. The babies name was Julieanne.”
Here is what you do not seem to understand. Baby Julieanne did not “lose her life”. Ashley, her mother, stole it! We are angry because another child has died because of her parents ignorance and selfishness!
“No person, I don’t care what they have done, deserves such terrible comments.”
There is a man on this site who smothered his six month old daughterand tossed her in a bag of shit…..do you think the same of him???
Ok, hands down, no PROOF of murder. Ok, she made irrational decisions and that ultimately led to the death of a new born child.
She said she left the child safely wrapped in a towel; in a place where she thought the child would be found.
Now if there is no PROOF she dropped the child down the laundry-shaft: and it is a possiblity that someone else may have intentionally/unintentionally cause the death of the child, there is no case. In the United States of America there must be prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the said crime was done by a said person. THERE IS NO PROOF that Ashley killed her baby.
The fact that claims of her innocentence were ignore, the fact the system did not even investigate these claims, that they did not even try to prove her innocentence is an out rage!!!
People are put in jail all the time for things they didn’t do. The fact that all of you don’t even bother to view this case objectively shows your lack of intelligence. It’s sickning how ignorant all of you are, how cold and heartless you can all be.
Again, Devin… She had NINE FUCKING MONTHS to figure out a decent way to handle the birth of this baby without any harm coming to it. Open your freaking eyes! There is no objectivity needed. Did she or did she not abandon her baby, and fail to ensure that the baby would be cared for and safe? Cause I think she did. She is not an innocent victim here. Anmd while we are talking about being objective, did it cross you mind that the most logical explanation for what happened to this baby is that your homegirl IS in fact the one who threw her down the garbage chute? I mean, do you really think someone came along and said- Oh look a baby, I think I’ll just dump this in the trash? Really, the fact that you aren’t even bothering to consider that your friend is guilty shows your lack of intelligence. It’s sickening how ignorant you are.
Also, she wasn’t found guilty of murder, but of aggravated manslaughter, correct? Which she plead no contest to, correct? I am gonna copy/paste something Max said, right up there ^ cause maybe you didn’t see it:
Allow me to inform you of the LEGAL DEFINITION of said offense:
A person is guilty of aggravated manslaughter if (he/she) recklessly causes the death of another person under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
In order for you to find the defendant guilty of aggravated manslaughter, the State is required to prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
(1) that the defendant caused (insert victim’s name) death, and
(2) that the defendant did so recklessly, and
(3) that the defendant did so under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
Pretty much fits the bill, don’t you think? Because wrapping a baby up and leaving it in a closet with no intention of caring for it sounds an awful lot like “extreme indifference” to me. And that’s assuming she wasn’t the one that tossed the baby.
Ashley did have nine months to plan what she was going to do and she did have a plan. Sadly it fell through, due to the fact that she was on vacation. She made the irresponsible decision not to tell anyone she needed help when she went into labor. She also made the irresponsible decision to leave the child where someone would find it. This does not mean however that it is here fault the child died.
Of course the idea that Ashley may have dropped the child down the chute had crossed my mind. The thing is I know Ashley, I know Ashley would not have killed her baby. If she did not wish to go through with the pregnancy she would have had an abortion. Why would she go through 9 months of pregnancy if she just wanted the child dead. She wanted the child to have a full live. She wanted the same chance she was given, given to her daughter.
With your comment Diana, “I mean, do you really think someone came along and said- Oh look a baby, I think I’ll just dump this in the trash?” Come on we both have more common sense then that and know that is not how it would have been played out in any case scenario. Maybe the person who threw the baby down the chute did not notice the small child. Maybe the person wasn’t paying much attention to what they were doing and thought they were throwing down a bunch of towels like any other day. There is no proof this happen, but seems possible none-the-less. I am sure there are other scenarios that work even better then that.
It was the job of the investigator to look into such ideas and he did not do so and they didn’t. The job of the invstigator is to find someone to blame. Ecspecially in such a high profile case: where murder was in the minds of many before innocence. Had they had looked into and found that Ashley was actually innocent. That the baby was accidentally dropped down the chute by someone else, the Broward County Sheriff department would have come off as foolish for being so hasty at condemning her.
Yes, the charge was dropped to an aggravated manslaughter. Which she is not guilty of as well. This law says….
A person is guilty of aggravated manslaughter if (he/she) recklessly causes the death of another person under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
In order for you to find the defendant guilty of aggravated manslaughter, the State is required to prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
(1) that the defendant caused (insert victim’s name) death, and
(2) that the defendant did so recklessly, and
(3) that the defendant did so under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
All three of these must apply for a person to be found guilty. Not all these apply in the case of Ashley Truitt. NO indifference to human life was shown. She wrapped the baby in a towel to keep it safe. Then left the baby in a room, (not a closet) where someone would find it shortly after(employees use the room throughout the day, bloodtrail to room) and would give the baby the care it would need. Ashley was not unbiased, impartial, or unconcern for the life of her child. She cared VERY MUCH about what was to happen to her baby. She started to bawl when she found out her daughter had died. There was no indifference to human life in this case PERIOD.
Ashley loved Julieanne and wished the best for her.
Why did Miss Innocent plead guilty then smart guy? People who do that as a rule do it because they did it and that’s the way they get the best deal on prison time they can get. If, and this is a BIG fucking ‘if’ in Ashley’s case, she truly was innocent, why not put it in front of a jury of 12 people? You only have to convince one of the twelve to be acquitted. Do you know why her team of geniuses didn’t choose door number 2? Because no person in their right mind would believe that cock and bull story they tried to pass off in the letter I debunked in my previous post.
But you do believe it Devin. Why is that? What’s in this for you? First you tried the guilt trip thing – major failure there. Now the tone of your post is much angrier. I think you underestimated us Devin. You bit off more than you can chew, didn’t you? We aren’t cruel, or stupid, or ignorant. Speaking for myself I try to be very objective when I write a story, and I fact check every story that gets posted on this blog. I don’t just read media reports, I access court records and arrest reports when they’re available. I educate myself about the law. I know for a fact that some of the regulars here do the same, and more than one are better and smarter than I am. We are serious about this stuff because of one simple fact. We care about the VICTIMS. We hurt for all the dead babies, the molested children, the murdered and abused women. We’re fed up with lenient courts, heartless defense attorneys, and brainless supporters who think they can come here and lecture us about what’s wrong with us.
So if you don’t like what gets said here, start your own bleeding heart “We Love You Ashley” website. You can even moderate it yourself to make sure all the comments are exactly the way you like them (unlike this website – we allow comments from all sides of an issue). That’s really what you want us to do, isn’t it?
Yeah, that’ll be the fucking day.
Max… You sir, are my hero.
*blush* You’re pretty OK too diana
I love you both Diana and Max……
Also I am wondering if dumbass Devin is the father of Julianne? Is that why he is so hellbent on her being so innocence (not innocentence Devin)
Devin you are trying to blame everyone and everything except for that bitch… You say that ‘you know her, she wouldn’t do that’ Well, just because you know her does NOT mean that she won’t do it.
Good call @ daddy Devin Lavonna – makes you think, don’t it?
You know why she plead guilty. Anyone with half a brain would take a 30 maximum sentence charge over a life in prison charge. Then once the charges for murder are dropped the appeal to the lesser charge begin. It is a textbbok safe bet play. Cause if you go to court regardless if you are guilty or innocent you may stilll lose and get the life in prison sentence. Which is much hard to appeal then an aggravated manslaughter charge.
Why no jury? By having a jury you put way more stock in peoples personal opinions. When in fact the cases should be decided on by hard evidence.
Did I read your earlier comment correctly “Her plan fell through cos she was on vacation”, fucking mental vacation if you ask me (probably a life long vacation). So let me get this straight, her plan was to wrap the baby up and leave it on the seventh story and you know maybe someone might find it in time. Hmm, great plan. This girl was obviously a thinker.
“Anyone with half a brain would take a 30 maximum sentence charge over a life in prison charge”. I’ve gotta say, considering here previously incitefull well thought out plan I have to really question whether she has half a brain, really.
And now just to make myself feel even more humanly superior to you (if that is at all possible) may I point out your utter stupidity by correcting your statement “Cause if you go to court regardless if you are guilty or innocent you may stilll lose and get the life in prison sentence.” That should be- regardless if you are innocent. the guilty part defeats the purpose of your statement.
In summation I would just like to say, you Sir are a FUCKTARD.
“innocentence”, huh? Lol!
Yeah, typos suck, sorry about that.
Someone should throw Ashley Truitt out. If she was pregnant and didn’t want an abortion, she could of given it up for adoption. There are lot of people who want to be parents.
Ashley was a caring, loving girl. She didn’t murder or cause the death of her daughter. Ashley wanted a loving family for Julieanne. The baby would have been adopted had things not gone so wrong. Ashley was a caring, loving girl. She didn’t murder or cause the death of her daughter.
Whatever Devin. You’re becoming boring. On to bigger and better things.
It’s ok to admit you may be wrong.
OK Devin, one more lesson. When you’re in an argument with someone, and you just repeat a totally flawed line of logic over and over until the other person just quits out of sheer boredom, it doesn’t make you the winner, it makes you an asshole.
Fortunately our courts of law don’t function like that, or Ashley the baby killer would be walking the streets right now dropping newborn babies down the first available hole.
Possibly even you – Asshole.
Max you rock
Thanks Lavonna – it’s good to know that even at my age I can still get into one of these Internet pissing contests and kick a little ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzAxePpxkg&eurl=http://www.truveo.com/Family-Guy-Mule/id/3408081713&feature=player_embedded
Hope this link works. Look Devin, it’s you!
oh poptart1, you are the coolest person I know
-editor
Same old excuse. They said the same thing about Ted Bundy, he was a nice guy. Well, he turned out to be a serial killer.
I love how you people have no actual arguments. Just some video clips and personal attacks on me.
Funny. When you can’t win on the issues you lash out at the speaker.
What can we say Devin? I know I stopped taking you seriously last night. Might as well have some fun at your expense, as long as you keep insisting upon bringing that weak ass “Ashley is innocent” shit into this blog. I damn near pissed myself laughing at Poptart’s link. Why do you think I let you keep posting. In case you haven’t figured it out, I’m the Editor here. I could delete all your comments as fast as you post them if I wanted to. But besides being unethical (in my book, anyways), what fun would that be? I’d be depriving all my friends of another shot at your ignorant, naive ass, and as you’ve seen, some of them are pretty damned comical.
Perhaps if you joined the rest of us on planet Earth you might understand why no one wants to engage you in a real dialogue anymore. Speaking for myself, I tried, in my own way, to educate you a little about how the real world works, since you’re obviously quite young and more clueless than most kids your age. But like the most of the grownups here, I find little pleasure in the proverbial “battle of wits with an unarmed man”
Not very suprised, just taking stabs at me. You haven’t had a decent rebuttal from the beginning Max. She didn’t kill her child and not a person in the world can prove she caused the childs death. Thefore, she is innocent.
So since you knew her soo welll, Devin, tell us something: did you know about this baby? I am gonna guess you didn’t, meaning Ashley did no think much of your friendship to confide in you, so why would you defend her??
Ashley told me she was pregnant as soon as she found out.
Not very suprised, just taking stabs at me. You haven’t had a decent rebuttal from the beginning Max. She didn’t kill her child and not a person in the world can prove she caused the childs death. Therefore, she is innocent.
And I’m sure she’s such a GREAT person, shoving her baby into a garbage chute the way she did. Look, you’re doing nothing by being here. You’re not going to stop the bashing on here that she deserves, and you’re definitely not going to stop her from going to prison. She may be your “friend” sure, but just as sure as we may not be able to prove she killed her child here, I defy you to prove her innocence.
She didnt kill her baby. She didn’t cause the babies death. The evidence says she is innocent.
Then, Devin, baby Julieannes blood is on your hands as well! How do you justify not doing A DAMN THING while this whole thing went down? All you had to do was let someone, ANYONE, know about that child and the situation might not have ended up with a dead baby.
There were plans put in action to ensure the safety of the newborn. Sadly since she went into labor on vacation these plans where unable to take place. We can all do the shoulda, coulda woulda, game if you want; but the fact is the child’s dead. No evidence is put forth to prove that Ashley killed or cause the death of the child. There for she is guilty of no crime.
Yea, Devin, people do that sometimes. Ya know go into labor when they don’t plan on it! So you kids just thought she would hide the pregnancy, have the baby, give it away and all would be well. I guess you guys are all doctors and were gonna be ready for one of the many possible complications childbirth may bring! My problem with this is that little Julieanne did not deserve to have her taken away because of the actions of some dumb kids who kept tryin to do grown up things!
Correction: “have her *life* taken away”… Dumb childish teenagers make me angry!! I would bet that judging by the type of company she musthave kept, because of the people that have visited here in her defense, that more than one person knew of this pregnancy!! It amazes me that not one person was smart enough to say “Hey guys, this is dangerous and incredibly stupid! We need to tell someone before things get outta control!” What a fuckin shame that poor child was brought into a situation of such stupidity and selfishness!!!
Notice how you keep refering to us as “kids,” “childish teenagers?” Yeah we were fucking dumb teenagers should have been smart and just told someone. We didn’t though. To put “childish teenagers,” “kids” in prison is unethical though. Ecpesically if the only thing she did wrong was not tell anybody about the pregnacy and hide it til after the birth. It’s too easy for you to stand and judge. THere is so much you do not know, that I could not even try to make you understand. Things are more complicated then black and white sometimes and I know you know that Lena. Ashley doesn’t deserve jail. Simple as that, people make mistakes. She didn’t kill or cause the death of her child. She was put into an extraordinary situations that turned out extraordinary bad. Doesn’t mean she should sit in prison. She is still of value to society. May people still love her, she could still do great things in her lifetime. All you hate mongers need to stop being such life bashing jerks. You say you value the life of the dead child, but what of the life of the “kid/childish teenager” siting in a jail cell. You people just sit here contradicting yourselves. Why don’t you just agree that maybe, just MAYBE Ashley Truitt didn’t kill or cause death to her child. Stop being stuck up and eating up what you are told, just cause the government says something’s the way it is doesn’t mean it’s true. People are released from prison all the time for crimes they didn’t commit. Some people spend many years before proven innocent, some people even die before they can be freed. Stop being so judgement cause you really don’t know everything. Go find something better to do then sit here and bash my friend to make yourself feel better.
I don’t know Devin, it feels REALLY fucking good to bash you and your friends. I’m talking orgasmic here dude. I don’t think I can stop. Can I just do it until I need glasses?
It’s sad that you use a website to boost your ego Max.
Max I think anyone, who wishs hate and harm on others, is a very weak person. I can’t believe how weak minded you are. I don’t care if you are an editor for this pathetic website, that makes money off the suffering and hatred of others. Good for you, I know you feel special.
hey admin, devin here thinks we make money – rotflmao!
-editor
It’s even sadder that you don’t have a sense of humor. lmao!
Max your comments are so smart!
The site takes some sort of income even if it is small. The site takes donations. Also makes a bit off advertising. I’m sure you get none of it of course.
If anyone else has anything to point out about Ashley’s case that is WORTH hearing, I am all ears.
To quote, hmmm, who was that….oh yeah, it was you Devin!
“It’s ok to admit you may be wrong.”
LoL – How did you get so fucking funny Dev? And you claim you don’t even know it?
Hard to believe
LMAO, that is soooooo how it feels Max.
Doesn’t it Bro? And Devin didn’t even get the joke, he just set himself up for another one. I’m gonna miss the boy – a person couldn’t ask for a better straight man. Devin MIchael Quinn, the Bud Abbot of the Internet.
Wait, lemme try something here;
HEYY DEEEVVVVIIIIINNNN!!!
Oh Yeah…..
Take the last word Max it’s yours, you can have it. As for me.
This sites getting old, no one interested in facts, just a lot of people wanting to bash and hate. This site is cold.
I don’t know if i’ll post much more here it seems no ones got anything new to bring to the table, anything anyone would say, I probably have already rebuttaled.
Have fun with this weird website.
Suggestion to all those on this site….
Find something better to do other then read about a bunch of weirdo murders and rapist. Don’t waste your time hating or hating on people. We all know this stuff goes on everyday. There are much more interesting things going on in the world. There ae much more productive things we can all be doing–I’ll be going back that. Later folks!
Good riddance Devin.. Good luck in your dream world
Devin. Ashley knew that babies should be born in hopsitals. That is because they are little and fragile and need Doctors to make sure they make it through ok. You follow me? Even if that is the only thing she is guilty of-and I find that hard to believe-she is responsible for the death of that child.
Take your suggestions and shove them up your ass because no one on here is dumb enough to follow the advice of a jackass. Hee Haw. You are wrong. No matter what you say you are still wrong. Go back to being a complete tool and doing something pedestrian.
Being a mother at the age of 18, I feel the need to express my .02.
1.) Ashley could have just told her parents about the pregnancy. ( assuming she hadn’t )
2.) I’m pretty sure that Florida has that Safe Haven law, and did in 2007..she could have went to the hospital after delivering and dropped the kid off. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
3.) I find it interesting how you continue to deny that she would actually do something atrocious. That’s understandable, because just when you think you know someone, they do something so foolish.
4.) You really need to sit down, and think about this. She had all these opportunities to get rid of the baby SAFELY and could have avoided this whole situation. SERIOUSLY?!? She wrapped the baby in a towel and left it in the 7th floor bathroom and someone just happened to come along and throw the baby down the garbage chute after putting it in a garbage bag? Tell me you don’t actually buy into that lie..after all, if she lied about her pregnancy to her parents…what makes you think she’s not going to be dishonest with you?
Ashley sounds like a sociopath to me, and the reason I say this is because sociopaths like to deny all responsibility for all their actions, trying to put themselves in a better light than what they actually should be in.
If this girl was truly a wonderful, caring, and great person, she would have taken responsibility for her pregnancy, and went about it the correct way…
Like I said before…Safe Haven laws.
This girl could have saved herself some jail time if she would have just done that from the get go.
I understand that you care about her, but it’s time to face the facts.
It was after four in the morning, in a hotel, which I’m sure had video surveillance… The cops don’t just arrest anyone and charge them UNLESS there is PROOF that a crime was committed.
That’s not how the system works, when it is running correctly.
Critical thinking. Employ it.
Max, you are fucking awesome! Devin, I have no problem with “childish teenagers” sitting in jail. When they try to be grown up in every way but the rightone, and their dumb actions kill a baby. Obviously, by the massive odor of denial in the letter by the Truitts, Ashley’s parents love and blindly support her, so why did she hide her pregnancy at all? Are you going to tell me that her having a baby was a big “no-no”, but causing the death of one was okay? You can call it what you want, but whether through her action or inaction, Ashley caused Julieannes death. And yes it is easy for me to judge because when I found myself pregnant at 17, I owned up to what I had done and told my parents. However if I had not, I had better friends than what you guys were to Ashley who would have told someone for me.
Devin, Devin, Devin- you are in such deep denial, yet you keep teiing us that we are too blind to look at two sides of a story. Let me say this clearly and slowly, so you will understand:
(1) that the defendant caused (insert victim’s name) death, and
If Ashley had not left that baby alone in a room, the baby would still be alive, correct? Therefore, her actions DIRECTLY caused the death of baby, regardless of whether or not she herself threw her down the chute. Her ABANDONMENT of the baby lead to the baby’s death. PERIOD.
(2) that the defendant did so recklessly, and
The girl was thinking only of herself. She was so worried about her parents finding out, that she ABANDONED her baby. By leaving her in a room by herself. That is reckless behavior.
(3) that the defendant did so under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life.
She showed her indifference to this child by ABANDONING her in an empty room. If she loved the baby as much as you are telling us she did… She would have thrown on a raincoat and walked her to a firestation, or somewhere comparable, or at least called the police. Ashley cared about no one but herself, and not getting in trouble. Therefore, indifference. All she cared about was that the baby was no longer her problem.
Devin, you keep saying the evidence shows that she is innocent. If here was evidence that she was innocent- then she is only sitting in jail because she CHOSE to plead guilty. SHE chose to do that. I don’t buy the evidence thing, I would love to know what evidence shows that she did not commit this crime, but regardless- if there WAS EVIDENCE- then she is an idiot for pleaing, because said evidence would have gotten her off the hook. See what I am saying here? You are not allowing your brain to work full circle here, dude. I am sure it is horrifying to have a friend sitting in jail- especially when someone (a friend, maybe) should have spoke up and perhaps stopped all this trauma from occuring… Too late for that now, and a baby is dead. Your friend is directly responsible for the baby’s death because she neglected to care for that child- she chose to abandon her without caring enough to put her in a safe place. And like I said, that’s assuming she isn’t the one who tossed her down the chute. (Which I don’t buy)
Also, can someone clear something up for me- was this a laundry chute or a garbage chute?
Okay, just re read the story, and it says it WAS a garbage chute, and that the baby was in a trash bag… Um, Devin… You are teiing us you think a hotel employee wrapped the baby in a trash bag, and then tossed it down a garbage chute? I was willing to entertain (not believe) the idea that an employee tossed a load of towels down the laundry chute without noticing a baby sitting on top of them, but please explain how it makes any sense that they would just throw a bunch of clean towels into a dumpster?
here’s what i say, GO FUCK EACH OTHER! you have no reason to be doing this. are you really that bored in your own life that you bash on someone elses? i mean seriously? go screw yourself. you dont know her at all! and guess what, i am her brother’s girlfriend so if you wanna play any games with me, go right ahead cuz i will play them right back and better. you dont know shit about her and never will. she is one of the best people i look up to everyday and always will. honestly, i hope my kids look up to her.
guys, she made mistakes, duh, but so have you, Max, and Diana. and the rest of you as well. i will fully admit that her’s were much, much bigger than ours but that’s just the way of life. sooner of later it happens. maybe not this particular thing but definantly other things that arent much better.
im sad about Julieanne as well but that doesnt mean that Ashley did it. no one had evidence to show that she did it. the fingerprints, the cameras, nothing. no one has any of that and do no one can shit about what she did or did not do.
i will admit that she should have told her parents, but my mom had me when she was 17 and was scared shitless to tell. so why do you think this woul dbe much easier? now, i realize that some of you have gone through the whole “telling your parents thing at a young age” but with the shit she had gone through before. which im sure you guys dont know about.
look, she was a good person and always will be. to all of you that want to bash her and be bitches and ass holes, i want you to think about what she has been through and why you think she would do this other than you think she is crazy. i truly that you guys are only thinking little picture and need to start thinking big picture.
i guess, i have nothing more to say but if you would like to reply or anyone would like to, i will happily reply back.
Oh God, not another one. I’ve become convinced over the past couple of year that there are 2 kinds of supporters of guilty people. The first kind are driven by loyalty – they accept that their friend or family member did what they’re accused of but resent the bashing and and insults that are a natural reaction to things like child molestation and baby killing. I’ve grown to have a grudging respect for those kind of people.
And then we have people like STSA here. They refuse to accept that their family member or friend is guilty despite a mountain of evidence, in Ashley’s case no less than a guilty plea. Sometimes they produce an “alternate theory” of how the crime was committed. Well, maybe the word theory is a bit on the generous side. Let’s say they make up a story and try and pass it off as an alternate theory – The Truitt family’s letter is a great example of this. Sometime they try and call the crime a terrible accident or misunderstanding as in “I accidentally misunderstood that if I threw my newborn baby down a trash chute it would die.” Of course, if we only knew this person they’re defending like they do, we’d would know that she/he could never so such a terrible thing. Yep, unfortunately for us we let all that damned evidence getting in the way of a meaningful relationship with the guilty party. Silly us.
So yeah STSA, lets hear what you have to say – there are people here who love to ‘educate’ folks like you. It’s usually a waste of effort, but it sure is entertaining.
Huh, brothers girlfriend. Just make sure you never leave YOUR children with Ashley, bit of advice from a bitch.
It saddens me that you have children. Sadder still that you’d want them looking up to someone like Ashley Truitt, who’s currently sitting her fat ass in jail because she murdered her newborn.
Yup, right up there with all the other great role models of the world like Susan Smith and all the other sperm dumpsters of the world.
The saddest thing of all though is that you people honestly believe she did NOTHING to deserve this backlash. As a mother yourself, how does this story not anger every fiber of your being??? Grow up, little girl. You’re just making yourself sound like a wannabe gangster trashy piece of shit when you should be searching for a way to run away from that family of crazies.
you want your kids to look up to someone who would not take responsibility for her actions? who whether “intentional” or not, as you defending a murderer morons are trying to say, caused the death of a newborn baby. she was neglectful of that baby from day one, all the way until the end. “the whole I had a hard life” excuse is really bullshit, i had a hard life, mother didnt really care, daddy wasnt there, molested at a young age…blah blah, but guess where my kids are? alive and well, playing with toys right next to me. I know of someone who had a harder life than me, and she is gonna be 17 this year and is pregnant with her second baby, but she is a damn good mother, even at her age, and knows right from wrong. how anyone can sit there and defend a baby killer is beyond me. if this bitch had wanted her child to live, she would have done right by her, or left her in a spot where she would be safe, such as the hotel lobby???
look, i guess you are right about the misunderstanding thing and all but honestly, she made a mistake and all but she is a a good person. everyone makes mistakes and her’s was a bit bigger than others. but come on. she’s still a good person.
yes, its a mistake to have sex and be unprotected, and not many people want their unplanned pregnancies, but do you know what many people do when this happens? they take responsibility for their actions (on their own, not cuz of a judge) and make the necessary decisions. when you grow up and realize what the hell your talking about, let us know then. i have two kids and would never fucking even imagine harming my kids… and who was the daddy? for some reason, nobody really mentions him
I think STSA is right I mean come on she made a Fucking mistake big whope. Do you not have any thing better to do than sit around on your little computers and critizis someone you don’t even know. THAT IS PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!
A “mistake” is leaving the ice cream to melt in your car trunk or oversleeping the morning of your SAT… a “mistake” doesn’t involve 9 months of stupidity, labor and ditching newborn kid to die.
Come on now, even kids born in the hospital can die due to random illnesses and whatnot. Not dropping the kiddie off at the fire department and hospital… was criminal. And there IS a difference between the two.
Are teens too stupid to understand what the whole “Safe Haven’ thing is about? That’s for when you fuck up, are too cheap or religious to get an abortion, but don’t want to own up to having a kid… so you give it to the officials who will take care of it and make sure it doesn’t get dropped down a garbage chute… stuff like that.
I see where your coming from but the thing i dont get is all these people above who are critizicing her who don’t know squat besides wat thee for one you weren’t there and two YOU DON”T KNOW HER!!! THERE ARE MORE IMPORTAN THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW AND ALL YOU PEOPLE WONT TO DO IS CRITIZIS THIS GIRL. LIKE I SAID BEFORE THATS FREAKEN PATHETIC!!!!!!!!
Not really. Some of the people here work in Law Enforcement or the Criminal Justice field, and have seen many things.
Do you have any kids? If you don’t it may be hard for you to fathom, but there is an amount of responsibility you have to your child. I had my daughter two weeks before my 21st birthday… my mom was not ideal, and for the months preceeding her birth I was alternatively homeless and sleeping on a concrete floor. My ex, when he found out I was pregnant denied it was his for months, used me as his “weekend piece of ass” and dropped me off downtown to do whatever the fuck with myself. I got a job once I stopped throwing up, and I worked anywhere from 8 to 16 hour shifts standing on marble floors until 2 weeks before my daughter was born. I was young. I was silly… but I did everything I could to make sure my daughter was safe and comfortable. I got my ass on Medi-Cal… got prenatal care. I would have never have thought of squeezing her out in a hotel with no medical aid and (supposedly) leaving her abandoned somewhere.
Do I have room to criticize her? Yes. I do. And having studied Criminal law (quitting for Forensic Science actually), I can say that there is a damned good bit of this that you could call premeditated. She’s lucky they didn’t charge her with murder, but manslaughter is a very accurate charge for her offense.
Don’t you understand? The death of her child could have been averted… the baby didn’t have to die. Whether or not she pushed it down the garbage chute doesn’t matter… the baby died because she LEFT it abandoned (not according to Safe Haven law)… the same as if she had locked it in a hot car on a sunny day with the windows up.
I don’t think we need to know her to say that what she did was stupid, foolish, irresponsible… and caused the death of another. Some of us just say it in harsher ways than others. ;D Either way, she was wrong, she caused the death of another, and she deserves to be in jail.
Alanna, my mom had me when she was 17, and i know everything that she went through. my dad left her as well. my mom had no one. my grandparents, after they found out, said f*** you and made her move out within a day. she lived with a blanket and a pillow and no one. she lived on my grandparents barn. my mom also kept it a secret until she was about 6 months pregnant. so yes i do understand where you are coming from. its just that the other people on here are trying to say that she a bad person all of a sudden all cuz of this. i just cant find myself to believe that. i guess, its that i want kids right now, but i know that im not ready and i wont go to the trouble of having them because im not ready. and i know where you are coming from with the whole its not a mistake thing, but honestly, it is.. the diffinition of “mistake” is doing something wrong. she did. bigger than most, yes, but everyone is trying to say that she a terrible person. she’s not. and i know that you dont “need” to know her but that would help. and im telling you now, that i do know her entire family and they are sweethearts. they all miss her like crazy and don’t know what to do anymore. ashley was a good person and get scared. other shit went on in her life that she didn’t know how to handle with. her parents did everything they could help her but she was just too scared. so honestly, i don’t think that all of this was her fault completely. i don’t know her persay, but i love her family with all my heart and everytime i read about her, i bawl. maybe she does deserve jail for sometime, but not this long. i guess, i have nothing else to say other than, i love her and you hate her.. that’s the sum total. right?
I’m glad you admit that you aren’t ready… I honestly don’t know if anyone is ever really “ready” for the reality of children, including some people that actually have them. They don’t seem to realize that their kids aren’t dolls until they aren’t cute anymore and they have to do some real parenting!
Do I hate her? No, I don’t. I just don’t feel that what she did makes her worthy of the title of “good person”, and I think it is putting a lot of her friends in denial. She may have been young, but sweetie, notice how your mom didn’t put you in a dumpster for some nice person to find? Or how other mothers on this site managed to deal with their “oops” babies without causing them major harm or death? We were all scared, your mom was scared, but we all owned up to our responsibilities to ourselves and our children. The girl has a lot to atone for, and that does make people angry… for all the women who can’t have kids, for all the people who just love children to death and can’t understand… why you’d discard one like trash. For them stories like these hit close to home. At 18 years old, you know right from wrong. Discarding your child when an option like Safe Haven is so well known is more than a mistake, it is criminal. I hope someday you look your baby in the eyes and realize how much that tiny thing needs you… and remember that the only thing this girl’s child ever could know was confusion and pain during her short existence. At that point, you will understand why some of the people on this site are saying such harsh and possibly “mean” things about this girl. She may be young, but if she went into her car drunk and killed someone, she’d still be guilty in the eyes of the law and punished with the time allocated by the judge according to the crime.
Again, I do not hate her, but I understand the anger of others…. and I understand how easy it must be for her friends and family to be blinded by love. Logic is cruel, especially in cases where the pain hits so close to home.
well, i know that i am not ready, well two reasons. 1 im 14. 2 i am scared that i would do the same thing.. honestly, i think that i will have a child by the time i am 15 or 16. im scared about it but im dumb and my school has been encouraging it for a loong time cuz they all do know my life story about my mom. they all want me to be that person, so i think that i will make the mistake and be her.. i feel like everyone on here is like trying to make her look like a someone that just is soo bad that they should die. i now can see where you are coming from that it a crime but she didn’t do it. and no one has enough evidence to prove that she did do it. my stepmom did kill someone and she isn’t in jail.. i mean, people let her go. i am blinded by love completely and i dont know how to get rid of this blindfold. my mom was thinking about the same thing though. she though about a lot when she got pregnant with me. i mean, im sure ashley thought about it a lot too. she didn’t think that she would have Julieanne on vacation. so she thought that she could do something about it here. and then go to florida with an open and happy mind. she had no intention of having Julieanne on vacation.
…Tell you what. I knew this girl in Jr. High, and she was 13 years old… Her mom had her at 13 as well. They were like sisters. But as much of a slut (and omg she was a slut) as she was, she did not repeat her mom’s mistake, even though half of us were expecting her to.
You do not have to repeat the past.
I’ll give you my personal email if you’d like to talk. Trust me girlie, I’m working on my B.S. degree 10 years after high school… it’s so easy once you have kids young to delay your life and not get to where you want to be, for yourself and for your kids. But yeah, if you want my email, I’ll give it to you. We are not slaves to the past, nor are we slaves to our reproductive systems. It puts your feelings into much better perspective to know how old you are.
Anyway let me know, I’d be willing to talk and try to give you some adult encouragement that isn’t from your parents or some random classmates of yours with their heads stuck so far up their asses they can’t see the light of day.
haha, well thank you but right now i think that i need to think a lot about how i have thinking about this whole thing. you knowing that im 14 prolly helped a lot. and i know that i dont have to repeat the past, i know this sounds bad, but i want to.. i feel like if my mom could do it then so can i. ashley made it through everything she had going on her life and with all of this. she will come out just fine in the end, and i feel like, if i do the same, i will too. i just need to talk to myself and ask myself a lot about my actions and what high school is going to be like. and i do have a boyfriend. he’s like my everything right now. i know that you will be thinking, it middle school.. dont get too high on life with him. but we have been going out for almost 7 months and i love him.. he treats me like a princess and i love that. he knows more about me than anyone. he and i have both talked about this subject and he also wants to but is just as scared as i am..
Good, he should be scared. So should you. I remember wanting a baby in HS because I loved my boyfriend at the time, but I wasn’t crazy enough to do it! You have to understand… that in 10 years your life will be completely different. And I will tell you right now… that custody court is not where you ever want to be. EVER. The matter of it is, that having a child impacts your life greatly… maybe not so much if your mom and dad, and the father’s parents help. But think about how much it could affect the child. There is nothing worse than seeing the hurt in your kid’s eyes and knowing you could have prevented it. By the way… you don’t have to defend this girl to prove your loyalty to your boyfriend’s family, or to prove how much you care about him. Believe it or not, it is very true.
Ask your mom how hard it was to raise you at that age. And how much she missed out on.
Ask her if it hurt. Honestly. She may not want to tell you.
Either way, here’s one of my alternate email addresses: darkwolfvengeance@yahoo.com
You don’t need a baby to be loved for who you are. You don’t need a baby to prove to your boyfriend how much you love him. And at your age having a baby will not improve your life any, and it certainly won’t help out the baby any, who is a slave to your whim. Anyway, I’ve been married to my husband for almost three years now, we’ve been together for four… and we are expecting our FIRST child together this August. I love him more than you could imagine, more than I even thought was possible at fourteen… and I hated him in Jr. High so much I transferred classes to get away from his sorry ass. So as you can see, things do change. Either way, feel free to email me. I hope I could help you sort some things out, as you sound like a smart girl, if a tad misguided.
STSA, it’s great that you have a boyfriend, but think about this: if he really loves you then he won’t want you to make a big mistake. And a baby is a huge mistake for people your age.
My husband’s nephew got a girl pregnant when he was 17 and she was 16. They got married, but they were both still in high school. Even with his parents helping (her parents disowned her, even after she was married), they couldn’t take it. Babies cry, and shit, and puke and cry and cry and need to be held and fed and walked around and have diapers changed… there is never enough sleep for the parents, and the baby needs every second of your attention. there is NO WAY that young people can handle that, plus a relationship, plus school or jobs.
Even with complete support from his parents, their marriage lasted less than a year. She ran off and left the baby. About 6 months later, she came back – pregnant with another guys baby. Our nephew took her back. By then he had dropped out of school and gotten a minimum wage job, but she couldn’t handle two babies and no money and a stressed out husband, so she took the kids and ran. They ended up living in a welfare-subsidized apartment and the mom started using drugs. Our nephew’s son was neglected and he fell out of a 3 story window, onto pavement. It didn’t kill him, but he was disabled. She has been in and out of jail, lost custody of her kids, been a prostitute, has the permanent guilt of almost killing her kid.. and on and on.
Just think about all of that. That unfortunately, is a story that is repeated over and over (with slightly different details) for many many teenage mothers. Your mom may have lucked out, but chances are that you won’t be so lucky. So make your OWN luck and don’t get pregnant. Believe me, you have a whole lot of years to have a baby, and every year that you wait is like 100 time more chance that you will be able to give your baby a happy, comfortable, love-filled life.
i guess it comes down to if i make the right choice this summer. this summer is going to be the best summer ever and im scared that i will fuck it up by doing this. my mom did luck out a lot, she has told me that over and over again but i feel like i can get help and get through it. just like you thought when you get pregnant im sure. but you werer wrong just like i will be. its not like im going to go out and sleep with any guy that asks me but i love my bf and i feel like that will bring us closer but deep down i know im wrong. right now i am thinking about what is at the top of my head and not what i know deep down what’s right. i feel like ashley knew that she could get through it. and i feel like way too. ya know? anyway, thank you Alanna and Mazzi, thank you for telling me what can happen but that just scared me. nothing else. and i dont ger scared easily. but for some reason i still wanna do this. i know that you guys are prolly thinkin, “she is a huge ho and needs to go a fucking councler” but i already go to one and i already know that i am. soo, idk what else to do. this is too hard to go through right now. i feel like high school will be a good time if i just go through it without a child but i want the baby more than anything right now. im just being my stupid self, i guess. but thank you to both of you.
STSA, if you want to ruin your life, go ahead and have a baby. Just make sure that you can support it instead of leaching off the system.
By the way, nothing places a huger strain on a relationship than a baby. And we are talking about adults who have jobs, pay mortgages, and are self sufficient. Chances are if you have a baby with some kid like you, at this point in your life, it will go bad. I guarentee you both would be broken up before eighteen.
You guys cannot handle a baby. Get real with yourself, go study, go to college, get a job, buy a house, and THEN have a baby. Come on, what kind of life can you provide for a baby? Can you pay for diapers, baby clothes, baby food-and those are just the basic essentials.
If you never listen to anyone else in your life again, listen to the people here who are telling you dont have a baby, you are too young and it will ruin your life.
That “some reason” is the same reason a Dog will hump a stuffed animal for forty-five minutes. You have an instinctual need to find someone of your own species, have sex with it and make babies before you die at age 30.
Guess what, you hopefully won’t die before age 30. We’ve gotten a little further along now. We understand that successful living requires more than simply breeding. We have a huge world out there, and most of the jobs that will be in that world will require at least a 2 year degree and in all likelihood, very soon you’ll need a Masters Degree to keep your head above water.
For all of the wisdom that’s been in it, there will not always be a need for someone to fix cars. There will not always need to be people who do manual labor. You will not be able to sustain your new family by flipping burgers. If you need to have sex, give your boyfriend a condom and make sure he uses it. If he won’t use it, dump him.
Be smarter.
It is very common for young girls with relationship problems (family and peer) to desire a baby so that they can be loved and love something. Unfortunately, parenthood is not that simple and more often than not, they find themselves way in over their heads and incapable of caring and providing for that child. Then, the child pays the price down the road. Single parent, abused, neglected, no dc shoes, no wii, no ipod. Millions of terrible outcomes possible.
STSA, you said you have a therapist. Talk to that counselor about your desire to have a baby. I am sure he/she can explain to you that you are looking for something in the wrong places. That something is not wrong to desire, but cannot and will not come from a baby. Dont be selfish at the expense of a child who is not asking to be born to someone who has nothing, no education, no career, no dollars. Why would you want to do that to a child?
I can’t even argue this anymore. It makes me too tired, and it deeply hurts parts of me that remember being without because my mom was an ignorant fucktard.
No DC shoes? Try no fucking food, or very little!! Loser dad borrowing money for milk and baby supplies…. Heh. And the whole parents not getting along thing hurts kids so much… you can see it on their faces. Teenagers don’t care… they don’t understand these things, it’s almost like they can’t COMPREHEND that their children’s needs won’t be met by what they have in life. And they think that their mid teen love will last forever… by gosh how many of us are even the same PERSON We were at 15? I’m sure as hell not, and I don’t know many people that haven’t changed since then.
Kid’s aren’t puppies. They aren’t there to love their parents unconditionally and fulfill their emotional needs. We’re here to fulfill THEIR NEEDS. It’s just sad…
It is like talking to a brick wall. By the time this girl realizes what huge mistakes she has made it will be way too late. She will be miserable, her baby will suffer, and in about 15 years she will be the one trying to convince her own fucked-up kid not to make the same mistakes.
I really don’t get it. I was a headstrong teen and I thought I knew everything, but I was smart enough to listen when a whole bunch of people told me the same thing – especially old people talking about the future. I thought they were so uncool, but when they ALL said “trust me, you will understand when you get older” I thought real hard about it.
So what we have here is a headstrong teen who is too STUPID to listen to all of these strangers who say the same thing as her mother. Either we are all so uncool that we shouldn’t be able to breathe, or maybe it’s some sort of adult conspiracy thing?
Anyway, I hope for your sake little girl, that you are not fertile. Because you would be better off never having any children than having them now.
im not saying that im going to treat my kids like dogs! i am serious! like come on. use common sence here. im not going to talk to any freaking councler. they are retarded. and Alanna i thought you were trying to help. but whatever., i guess im done as well as the rest of you.
Keep telling yourself that STSA. Many of the frequent posters on this site take their dogs to the vet for routine physicals, for any scrape or bruise and care for their dogs better than anything you will ever be financially or responsibly be able to do for your children. That’s if you have them now instead of after you learn to spell, complete some basic level of college or technical school and learn how to responsibly participate in an adult relationship based on more than the depth Sex will take you.
Your kids might turn out okay, but make no mistake, most Dogs will be in for a better life than the one you give them.
STSA needs to keep his/her lies in order, LOl. First we hear that “she” goes to a counselor, and now “she” says that she doesn’t.
I’m telling ya – this is no 14 year old girl. This is some hairy, fat, sweaty social outcast living in his momma’s basement, trolling the interwebz.
maybe zanny the nanny did it?
imp? what?
STSA,
I remember 15, and honey, if you are gonna do it, use protection. Go to Planned Parenthood, and ask them for the shot. If you and your boyfriend can stay together through highschool and through the first two years of life thereafter, then have a baby if you still want to. I had my first child @ 31, and my second 10 months later and with all of the experience i had and the maturity that comes at that age, i was and am still sometimes:
overwhelmed
hugely tired
sleepdeprived
cashstrapped
and i NEVER get time for myself.
if you have the urge to nurture something and think that it will bring you closer to your boyfriend, i swear to you that the best thing you guys could do is go out and get a puppy or kitten together. I know this sounds probably really ridiculous, but my kids dad and i had pets together and lived together WAY before we ever had kids. It’s called “The pet test.” See if you guys can raise a cat or dog together before you move onto kids, honey. If you and your guy don’t end up working out (NOT saying that’s the definate case.), you’ll still have Fido to keep you company. You get a puppy, it loves you, you love it back, and ultimately you have a great dog who will protect you in about a year. Babies are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more work, they are HUGELY EXPENSIVE, and they are utterly dependant on you in each and every single little way that you can possibly imagine.
You said you look up to Ashley, right? Then please consider this…if Ashley was so overwhelmed at the age of 18 that she made such poor decisions that resulted in Julieanne’s death, how much harder will it be to cope with the MASSIVE responsibility of parenthood at just fourteen or fifteen years old? (shhh…I know guys, I am striving to avert here.)
STSA, please think really really hard about all of these things that Alanna and Mazzi and myself are saying to you. I wish you well. You strike me as a girl who is seeking to do good things with your life. And it seems that when(a few years from now hopefully) you have children, you want to be a good mother to them. The best thing you can do for your future children is give yourself and your guy some time to grow up, so that you can provide them with all of the love and support they deserve.
Wait, okay honey? It’ll be better for you, and it will most definately be better for your future babies. I promise….
trust me, all i wanna do is strive for the best i can be in high school and everything i do. sports, school, everything.
i have been thinking a lot about what you guys have said and all i can think about is how scared i am about the whole thing. honestly, all you guys do is scare me.
my dad is now trying to get back into my life and that’s not working. im not letting him. all i want right now is someone that loves me soo, verryy much that i can trust with all my heart and soul. when i was about 12 or 13, my dad did a terrible thing to me and i dont like thinking about it but now he wants to appoligize and i refuse to let him. what he did was wrong and i hate him for it.
when i think about what happened to ashley and her past, all i can think about is how i felt and how terrible i feel for the people out there that are scared to tell anyone. i did tell someone but it was hard and i know that. i was scared that he was going to come back and do it again or worse. i know that its hard..
i guess it comes down to, im scared that something will happen to me again and it doesn’t help that people like wondermom, are scaring the shit outta me and i dont know what to think anymore..
but thank you for the advise and thank you for just trying to help out a scared and lonely, little minded 14 year old girl..
*snort*
“…little-minded 14 year old girl”? Really? ROFL
one more thing to think about….
what if your baby is born with a birth defect, or is handicapped in someway? are you and your fellow ready for the LIFELONG financial and emotional commitments of a healthy child? no. how about one that needs operations and/or physical therapy or who is blind or confined to a wheelchair for life. How about a baby who has a colonoscopy bag (google it.) There are so many things to consider above and beyond the issue of just wanting a baby itself.
wondermom, all you did was scare the shit outta me. so thanks i guess is all i can really say to that.
Jeeza louisa- I just can’t stand the stupidity in this thread.
Am I the only girl that NEVER wanted to have a baby in high school?
I had every right to- I had a fucked up childhood, was absused, was in foster care, and was eventually adopted. Why didn’t I want a baby? Because I had a brain!
I did not have any children until I was 34, out of choice. Once I had children (I now have 2), it only reaffirmed my decision not to have had babies in my teens.
It is a MYTH that children unconditionally love their parents. Children would not survive evolutionarily if they just cared about their parents. They are selfish. They think about themselves. They HAVE to.
You should not have children if you wouldn’t give up your friends, partying, or even their other parent if it would be for their best interests. Fucks will come and go, but children stick around longer unless you are a loser who lets some boyfriend babysit (ie- kill or abuse).
Being a parent has NOTHING to do with getting props for being a parent. It’s a thankless job unless you are a good enough parent to see your children into their 30s.
Babies do not validate people. And like it was said earlier, they are hard to cope with. They make your life harder, especially if the other parent is a loser. There are times when it’s fun to be a parent, but it’s about 25% of the time. The other 75
I got cut off. Th.e other 75% is hard. You have to learn to be selfless, and that’s almost impossible for teenagers to do.
I guarantee you will not be with your boyfriend in 5 years, whether or not you have a kid. So imagine that. You’ll be young, wanting to go out and meet some new guy to fuck, but you’ll be stuck with an annoying kid. So you’ll pretty much let anyone babysit. Which means that you will eventually show up on this site as either a child abuser, or as someone whose newest PENIS killed your kid.
People who have had hard childhood lives should never have kids when they are young. I am a poster child for that. If I had had children while in my teens, I absolutely believe I would have been abusive or neglectful. I was smart enough to understand that. And the kids I never had probably are thanking me for that. The kids I have now- that’s a different story. They benefit from how I have learned to cope with my abusive childhood. I tell them about it, and they can see that their lives are so different from what mine was, even though it’s hard for them to imagine that other life.
If you have had a rough childhood, do not EVER have children until you have gotten help and come to terms with what you experienced. Your children will thank you.
Children are a neverending hole of need, and if you are filled with holes yourself, you are not capable of being a good parent. Children do not fill holes.
c
Lordy- I forgot to add-
Childbirth is hard. My first boy was born all natural- no nothing. All well and good, except that the doctor injured me. I filed a malpractice suit after 3 reconstructive surgeries, and won. My second boy was ordered to be born c-section because natural birth was likely to be fatal for me because of my injuries.
Having children is serious business, and I feel like vomiting when I see it bandied about so casually. DO NOT have children unless you can dedicate your life to not fucking them up with your shit.
c
glorybug,
ROFLMFAO!!
never ending holes of need…. now there’s an apt description!
Thanks for the chuckle!
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May the Good Lord Bless and keep you all…
STSA…I do want to help, but you have to understand that I’ve been there and done that before.
I’ve sat down with someone who just wouldn’t listen to reason before, bought them clothes, offered to buy them a car, tried to take them to the eye doctor, tried to get them to help themselves, even offered them a place to live.
I bet you can’t guess what I got for my YEARS of trying:
nothing.
The person had to realize what was wrong for them self, and nothing that I did or said would change the way she was. She just wouldn’t or COULDN’T understand.
This didn’t involve a child, but this did involve someone’s LIFE.
I can’t save the world. I try to help when I can, but you have to understand that even as a stranger, I can feel SORROW for the mistakes that you are likely to make just by the way you are refusing to listen to people who are trying to help you and who know better than you do, believe it or not. Trust me… in the next years of your life, many many things will happen and many things will change. The biggest, largest point of change in my life is my child, and not all of that change was good. Kids bring with them more problems than you can imagine, especially if the situation isn’t stable. And no career, no house of your own, no higher education, no way of supporting YOURSELF… that is not a promising start for a child. You have wondermom and others telling you the TRUTH… lady it is HARD even when you have all those things to have a baby and cope.
But you don’t want to listen, and I can imagine all the things that you will go through, and the things that you will more than likely put your child through that you can’t even foresee. All you know is you want something to love and you want something to bring you and the boyfriend closer. As with the other poster I agree: Do the pet test. My husband and I have two dogs, three cats, a snake, etc. They are a lot of work, even MINUS all the extra stuff babies need. But caring for a pet who loves you unconditionally (not including cats of course, sorry Max) fulfills some emotions, and shows you more of the person you are with. Being young and not having the responsibilities of an adult, you are in “honeymoon” mode with your boyfriend… you really don’t know how you will react to stress and responsibility TOGETHER yet. And you want to bring a baby into this? Fine, but remember that if he so chooses, he can leave, pay a couple of dollars a month in child support and leave you to 100 percent raise a child you aren’t ready for. Think about that for a hot second.
Anyway again, I’d love to help but I’ can’t help someone who is too stubborn to listen or closed minded. It actually validly hurts me to listen to these things, but sweetie I have to raise my own family, and I can’t cry too many tears for a stranger who is digging her own hole so to speak. I’ve been there, I’ve done it. I spend all my time making sure that my own daughter will never put herself in the situation that you are choosing and that she has the self confidence in herself, the belief in herself and the ability to look to the future that you can’t seem to find right now. I wish you good luck, and again, if you want someone to talk to, I provided my email… but only if you are going to be open minded and really THINK about what myself and others have been trying to tell you this whole time.
Alanna, I think we have a person here jerking our chains. No one could really be that stupid – not even a teenager. I suspect that this is some 40-year old guy who thinks it’s funny to watch us feel genuine concern for his fictional teenager.
Either way, it’s a waste of time. if it’s some loser in his mom’s basement then he is getting a sick thrill from it. And, if I am wrong (but I doubt I am) then this girl is damned near retarded, and can’t be helped. I just hope that someone takes her babies before she can destroy them.
You may be right- but if any other teen stumbles across this, it might make them think twice.
Oh wait. Teens? Nevermind. They think adults are stupid.
c
Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t.
I’ve said my piece overall, and I meant it. I cannot waste the little precious energy I have by expending it on people (no matter the age) who won’t listen.
Which is to say, either way I’ll survive =)
im not 40, im 14 and i know i need help. but whatever. thanks for the help…. :(
If you are really 14 and “need help” then go GET it. Don’t just sit here playing victim on a message board and rejecting every person who has taken their own time to give you advice. We don’t know you, and yet we wrote long time-consuming posts on the unlikely chance that you are really a girl in trouble, and the reply we get is “but I WANNA!!!”
You might as well tell us to STFU because you are going to do the stupid shit that you know is stupid shit, and nothing anyone says will make a fucking bit of difference, will it?
Go on. Make your bed and lie in it, but when you have that poor helpless baby you better suck it up and be good to that child no matter how miserable you are, because YOU DID IT. And there is no turning back. And for Christ’s sake, let that baby have a chance of a normal life, in spite of it’s horrible misfortune of being born to a stupid, selfish, ill-equipped teenaged mother.
And if you don’t listen to THAT advice, get prepared to spend a hell of a long time locked up with a bunch of bull dykes who just LOVE to fuck with child abusers. And NOT in a good way.
Good luck. You need it.
Seriously, Mazzi and Alanna. I spent the miniscule amount of freetime i had the other night after the kiddies were in bed responding to this, hoping to help bridge the gap w/ this kid. I should’ve read a good book…
STSA,
if you think the replies i posted were scary, google episiotomy… google epidural. they stick a 25 guage needle up your spine. it is not a cakewalk. google cesearean.
that’s what they did to me after 36 hours of very painful anf unsuccesful labor. It was horrific, and i was a fully grown 31 year old woman.
i would say i’m sorry for scaring you, but i’m not. Be scared. Be very very afraid. Because what you are considering doing is the most permanant thing a woman can ever do, if she shows a speck of reponsibilty for her child. Your life will NO LONGER be about YOU, ever ever ever again. It will be all about that baby, every second of everyday for at LEAST 18 years, not counting pregnancy.
You wanna go to the show with your boyfriend? Do you know how much a sitter costs? IF you have disposable income after buying all of the diapers and formula and asswipes and clothes and toys and carseats and teething rings and medication and rash ointment and every other thing that that baby NEEDS.
Forget freedom, honey.
If you really want someone to love you, you are gonna have to start by learning to love yourself. That sounds cheesy as hell, but it is true. I had a peice of shit white trash tweaker of a childmolesting rapist dad, and if i wouldn’t have taken the time to get my shit together (some thru choice, some thru dumbassed luck.) before i had kids, i could have possibly been a very fucked up parent. If you are smart enough to know that your dad is a loser and You don’t deserve his shit or need him in your life, that you are smart enough to know that a twenty year old mom is better for a baby than a fourteen year old mom. Plain and simple.
p.s.
I posted some resources up above (accidentally. I’m still getting used to the multi thread response button, and i’m tired.) hope they lead to the help you seek. any of this info is accesible on the net. Good Luck!
So….Devin never came back, huh, Max? I guess he realized he was fighting a losing battle with ineffective and inadequate equipment (a small mind and a smaller lexicon.) Too bad, because for the last ten minutes I have been laughing my ass off at him and STSA. Now she is one HUGE moron. Absolute Dumbass. I had my daughter when I was 19. Her father was supposed to come see her when she was born, but he went to a strip club in Daytona Beach instead. Then he went back to the base and told his Sergeant Major that she wasn’t his daughter, “because she’s half-black.” Good rationale, if he had actually seen her and if she had actually been half-black. No offense to Tito, but some Puerto Ricans are dumbasses. So I’ve been a single mom for three years. It sucks. Royally sucks. No time for friends, no time for a couple of drinks (except on drill weekends) most of my paycheck goes to supporting her…etc.
I admit I made a mistake, but I didn’t toss my girl down a laundry chute, or over a balcony, or to the gators. I did what a NORMAL mother would do and loved her, protected her from harm, provided for her. I still do.
So yeah, I think this stupid excuse for a female should go to hell. If she didn’t want a baby, she should have stuck to blow jobs, am I right?
No, he never did, but I’m sure another asshole will take his place eventually. There never seems to be a shortage of stupid people trying to defend the indefensible.
MAX! I found Devin’s replacement!!! It’s Mr. Ed, who has been commenting on Jodi Arias!!!!!
Haha, if only that girl had swallowed instead we wouldn’t be seeing her face plastered on pysih! On that note, aren’t like half of Puerto Ricans part black anyway? And who can tell?? Eh just saying.
I hope you bust his ass for child support for what he owes HIS CHILD, and call him a stupid prick while you’re at it for being a moron.
Also I hope that you, like I have, have developed a better taste in men. =)
No offense of course.
Well, Alanna, what I failed to mention is that he offered a friend of mine $2,000 to push me down the steps while I was eight months preggers. My friend ( a good one and now I owe him my life) told the base Commander about the offer and now Marky-Mark is doing 25-life in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Military Justice… Boo-yah!
Very Nice! We should swap stories sometime! There has to be some way to make the POS have to support his child even still if he isn’t… Not sure about the military but I think in regular prison don’t they dock their small earnings?
On the bright side, at least he won’t be asserting his rights to visit your daughter any time soon =D
The military will take your pay away all together if so inclined. So kudos to the Corps for making him a prison whore! Sorry, happy that his butt is in jail. But no child support, I’m sad to say. McDonald’s won’t even hire him IF he gets out :)
Ashley will be free eventually. Then you people can all go live in fear that she’ll kill a baby. You can even site here on this super sweet site and complain about the grave injustice in giving a person a second chance. Don’t get to excited.
Oh, go away Devin. Did you forget how badly we abused your virtual ass the last time you showed up here?
you are an ignorant fucktard and will be treated as such. why dont people get it? just because they were a ‘good’ person before, doesnt mean that the past eradicates the present/future. i cant believe people still try that “wow, gee, he/she was such a nice person, this is a mistake/they’re innocent/ya’ll dont understand” shut the hell up already. when she gets free people will know her name, and what she did. so if she doesnt get what she deserves in prison, then hopefully she will get it on the outside. so stick that in your pipe and smoke it ya crackhead!
I realize that all that I said, was wrong. I want you all to know that I have changed a lot and I have not done anything I thought I was going to.
I have come to realize that I can see both sides of this story. I still have friends going through heartache about Ashley.
On one side, she was a great person and made mistakes. I realize they were big mistakes but like I said, everyone makes mistakes.
On the other side, you can think that she was a terrible person because this is all you knew her as.
I can see both and I hope you guys can see both as well.
Also, I wanted to thank all of you that made me realize that what I was thinking and doing was wrong on so many levels. I’m not going to lie, you were all right. I’m a 14 year old, nieve little girl that has gotten the help that I needed.
I am doing a lot better and thank you to all for that.
No dear, thank you for this comment. I’m sure it means more than you know to the people who tried so hard to change your mind. I’m 50 years old, and I know plenty of so-called adults who aren’t mature enough to admit what you just did. you should be proud of yourself.
One thing I’ve learned is that life is all about the choices we make – I chose to drugs for a long period of me life, and the result was my life was crap. When I chose to stop using, my life got better. That wasn’t just a coincidence. Seems to me you may have figured that out a little bit sooner than most other people do.
Well, thank you. I just wanted everyone to know that I have thought a lot about what you guys had said and it was just hard to face the truth.
My point to that message though was for you guys to be able to see both sides of the story. My mom taught me that when I was way too young to remember. That’s why I looked up to her so much.
I just hope everything I said, made some sort of impact on someone.
Thank you for listening to me though.
i know its been a while but i think the reason Devin keeps defending her so vehemently is because if she is in fact guilty (as i fully believe she is) then that makes him guilty also because he states she told him of the pregnancy the day she found out. as long as he keeps saying there was no proof and that she did not do it then he can keep telling himself that he played no role in the painful and sad death of this poor defenseless baby. I believe the guilt is eating at him and he would give anything for his friend to be the poor innocent girl that he makes her out to be. that way he can live with the fact that he knew this girl was pregnant and scared and he did nothing to help her, he knew she had some STUPID AND DANGEROUS plan to have this baby alone and rid herself of it so no one would ever know she got pregnant again (after the pregnancy and abortion at 15). He could have prevented this whole thing from happening if he would have A. convinced her to tell her family. B. told someone else when he realized that she was not gonna inconvenience herself and her life by fessing up. So now the only way to live with himself is to believe the lie… believe that this selfish girl did not kill her own baby so her life would not be interrupted. I feel sorry for him when it finally hits him….if it ever does.