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    Robert Roberts

    Robert RobertsThis happy fellow used to be 43-year-old Robert Roberts, the man with the name so nice you have to say it twice.

    Robert Roberts has had some problems with the law.

    Back in 2001, Roberts was arrested and charged with child abuse and assault after he punched one of his children in the face. That child was six at the time.

    Two years later, as his family watched, Robert Roberts fired a shot from a rifle into the walls of his home. Police were called and a standoff occurred, after which Roberts was arrested. Fortunately nobody was hurt during that incident.

    You’d think that initiating an armed standoff with the police would be enough to keep a guy off the streets, but no such luck. Robert Roberts was back in the midst of society before you could say, “Robert Roberts.”

    You’d think that with his history of violence with children, the mother of his children would supervise any contact that he had with them.

    No such luck.

    On the 14th of November, 2007, two of Robert’s children spent the night with him. One was four-year-old Carleigh Roberts and the other was Michael Roberts, who was six.

    They’re both dead now.

    They were shot by their father, who then turned the gun on himself.

    The bodies were discovered by the children’s mother, who had been separated from Roberts for a while. The woman had wandered on over to Robert’s house on the 15th of November after discovering that the children had been to neither school nor daycare and that Roberts hadn’t been to work.

    Will we see Robert Roberts in Hell?

    • Yes (96%, 149 Votes)
    • No (4%, 7 Votes)

    Total Voters: 156

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    48 Responses to “Robert Roberts”

    1. Brittany says:

      Man…I just don’t understand how someone can kill their own kids

    2. Patti says:

      Wanted to let everyone know the 2001 report of punching a kid in the face was a different Robert Roberts, date of birth is close, but it was someone else. News media got that one wrong. Trust me I’m not defending him. Just wanted to set that straight. Second, their mom was fighting for sole custody, but our snail-paced court system told her that she could not keep him from his kids until the court could hear the case. Not her fault! He adored those kids. We all knew he was capable of killing himself, but there was absolutely no indication whatsoever that he would ever harm them. He couldn’t even discipline them! He was a mentally instable man who decided to try to live his life without his medication, and this is what happened. It has been very hard on the family, please don’t think there was anything any of us could have done to prevent it. He was a devious, sick man and would have done it another day if it hadn’t been that day.

    3. DualDenz says:

      what makes a man kill his children and then commit suicide? i’m tempted to click “yes”, but since some of the facts seem to be wrong, i don’t really know what to think.

    4. Anon. says:

      Reminds me of that Robin woman really. Cept she didn’t show signs of violence like he did before biting the bullet. Really, something can’t be right to make someone alright with killing their kid(s). I’d say something about suicide too but I think if you’re willing to shoot your kids then suicide’s not really that much of a surprise at that point.

    5. Just to make a point says:

      What the hell is wrong with the courts that they require a mother to hand her children over, unsupervised, to a mentally unstable man?

    6. mitch0927 says:

      I won’t see him in hell, but you guys might….

    7. kitty "roberts" says:

      i think we should remember that sociopathic types can appear quite affable and confident to the public eye. i can see without the proper training a lot of professionals would think an individual like this charming-”a great guy”.

      examples like this teach us we need to be more on our toes.

      kitty

      • Amy says:

        Sociopaths ARE the most “likable” people. Always good with a joke, pillar of the community, able to lie without anyone being the wiser.
        They take no blame whatsoever for their behaviour, it is ALWAYS someone elses fault.
        It is very hard to pinpiont someone who is so charming and friendly as also being someone who abuses his wife and children in private and who is on one big power trip 24/7.
        We really do need to be more on our toes.

    8. TurtleMania says:

      This is what might happen if Vincent Chowdhury gets back on the streets and/or doesn’t get rehabilitated.

    9. Susan says:

      Sure it is a very selfish and desperate act, but how can we expect someone to act rationally when we refer to them as “sick, mentally unstable, suicidal” and expect them to do the right thing by their children. The court system & child protective services is a JOKE.

    10. Randi Nicole says:

      Poor innocent children.

      RIP

    11. AgJu says:

      He looks like Al Bundy, but Al is probably a better father (though barely) since he didn’t actually kill his kids.

    12. Emma-Rae says:

      That was my uncle and I know he seems like a horrible father but he thought that he could not take medicine and still be fine. In his suicide note he wrote that he killed Carleigh Rae and Mikey so that they could come with him to heaven. That’s a horrible lie about him being an abusive father and husband. Even though this happened years ago I still cry for them and I cry as I write this. He had no right to take anyone’s life but he but he really beleived that that was what the best thing was. So please don’t talk about him like hes a monster because when my mom patti told me the heartbreaking news I said youre wrong he couldn’t have done it. RIP Carleigh Rae and Mikey “Lightyear” :( <3

      • vcbecky says:

        Emma-Rae, you seem like a sweet, sheltered, inexperienced, innocent child. I am going to speak to you as if that’s what you are, because I can’t imagine your message coming from anyone else. If I’m wrong, you might want to think twice before correcting me.

        The system failed to remove your uncle from society when it had the chance to, when every “Monster Alarm” started pointing toward him early on. That’s not his fault, but it still doesn’t mean that he’s not a monster. Society has no reason to think of him in any other light. If it helps you to hold onto the memory of your uncle as a wonderful person, that’s fine. We all have our little delusions that sometimes carry us comfortably through our rough spots, and maybe this one is necessary for you. Maybe you need to believe it for some reason, though his sins are not yours and you really shouldn’t hang any of your own self-esteem on his monstrousness.

        I suggest you try to remember, somewhere in your necessary self-delusion, that your uncle is a monster to the rest of us and as such he will receive nothing but our derision and our hatred because that’s all we owe him. Do not search for his name on the internet, you will find nothing but pain and, in your youth and inexperienced innocence, you don’t deserve to share in that pain. It’s not yours to carry.

    13. Miwist says:

      “In his suicide note he wrote that he killed Carleigh Rae and Mikey so that they could come with him to heaven.”

      That plan probably didn’t work so well – people that kill kids typically go to hell. It’s that 10 commandments thingy – y’know – the whole ‘Thou shalt not kill’ crap.

    14. ApriL says:

      So please don’t talk about him like hes a monster because when my mom patti told me the heartbreaking news I said youre wrong he couldn’t have done it.

      So we shouldn’t talk about him as though he’s a monster because you told your mom he couldn’t have done it? uh no.

    15. vcbecky says:

      Just for fun, I went to dictionary.com and looked up the definitions of the word ‘monster’.

      #3: any animal or human grotesquely deviating from the normal shape, behavior, or character.

      Synonyms: fiend, brute, demon, devil, miscreant.

      Origin:
      1250–1300; Middle English monstre < Latin m?nstrum portent, unnatural event, monster, equivalent to mon ( ?re ) to warn + -strum noun suffix

      According to this, the original root word for our word "MONSTER" means "TO WARN". Interesting. It seems to me that PYSIH is here TO WARN.

    16. Emma-Rae says:

      I would just like to let all of you jerks know that you didn’t know him. Therefore you are judging him. If you had been with him all the time and with those children you would know that he loved those kid more than any of you will ever love your kids. He loved them more than his own life. But of course whenever this stuff goes on the news everyone starts judging just because that is not how they would have handled it. That was definitally not how to handle it but try to imagine being so sick that you actually think that youre doing the right thing by taking them to heaven where everything is perfect compared to going to custody court every other day. So B-ochis don’t judge. And calling some one a monster is like calling yourself a. Monster.

      • vcbecky says:

        I’m so goddamned happy that I didn’t know him, you have no idea. Yes, we damn well are judging him. What, do you really think that you have to know someone personally to judge them? How much of their life should you know about? Who in hell are YOU to judge us for judging this monster. You must be a young child, a naive teenager or a mentally deficient adult. Check yourself into a therapist, because that’s really what you need. Your uncle was a monster, and I’m sorry for you for that reason, but you have no right to take your misplaced anger out on us. And if you do feel you have that right here, you will be slapped down repeatedly until you realize that you’re wrong, or you just can’t take it anymore.

        How in FUCK is calling someone else a monster like calling myself a monster? What does that even mean? Please explain it to me, because well… jeezus, I don’t even have a real response for it, it’s so strange.

        “This wasn’t how to handle it.” No, really? That has to be the most intelligent part of your post. The rest of it is self-delusional bullshit that could only be spouted off by a friend or family member who just can’t accept the truth of what Rob Roberts actually is – a fucking monster who doesn’t deserve to live on the planet with us humans. I’m glad he shot himself – he saved the rest of us the time.

        Let me explain something very basic to you, that obviously you have missed. Robert Roberts could have spent his entire life working for charities, cleaning up our freeways, resuscitating stray dogs and swabbing out the buttholes of streetcorner whinos. The moment he killed his kids, he became a monster. ANY good parts of him were negated by that one act. That’s how life works. That’s why a priest can’t go around fucking altar boys and still remain holy no matter how many charitable works he racks up.

        What in HELL is a B-ochis? It sounds like some sort of Italian food. Are you trying to spell “Bitches” but with a ghetto twist? LOL! Oh, that’s priceless. I have to go wipe my eyes. Hehe. “B-ochis”. Oh, mercy!

      • vcbecky says:

        One more thing, Emma-Rae. I have to address this little gem: “he loved those kid more than any of you will ever love your kids”

        You honestly believe that someone who killed their own children in cold blood loved their kids more than anyone here who has a living, healthy, happy child with no extra holes, all of their blood in their body and all of their lives ahead of them?

        Woah boy. We’ve got a live one here. Love is blind. Sometimes, love is also freakin’ naive.

        Emma-Rae, I have to assume you’re a very young child otherwise my faith in humanity will be shaken. Maturity includes the ability to separate irrational hopes from the truth. Don’t post here anymore. You’re only going to get hurt.

        • Maelstrom says:

          “he loved those kid more than any of you will ever love your kids”

          Emma-Rae,

          Let me be blunt here for one moment. Words don’t usually affect me, especially words typed out on a computer screen. And this is the internet, so the majority of people’s opinions mean very little to me. I can agree or disagree and state my reasons for both. If I happen to like the poster who comments, and know them outside of this blog, then their words carry much more weight, and mean much more to me. I can disagree with people whom I genuinely like, and still like them even if 21 days of brutal debate pass between us. – I’m just awesome that way.

          But what you’ve said about this piece of shit loving his children more than we love ours….phew, you stupid, worthless cunt…that right there is truly why you should be savagely beaten within inches of your life. You are nothing more than an equal piece of shit, and I am so overjoyed that this motherfucker is dead and gone. He’s probably worm food right now. They’ve most likely eaten everything that was left of him, and now he lies stinking and rotting in the ground….right where he belongs. – The tragedy – because you need to be reminded- are the untimely deaths of Carleigh and Michael. The fact that anyone…ANYONE could attempt to make some kind of argument that a father who guns down his two little boys in cold blood “loved them” really should just find the nearest cliff and proceed to swan dive your stupid ass off the edge.

          Do you have children, Emma-Rae ? Do you love them ? Please say no…please tell me you hate them. Please tell me that you hate their guts, because you can not discern the difference between parental love; which by the way means that your child’s life comes before your own, and what this heartless motherfucker did to his own boys.

          And lastly, fuck you, Emma-Rae. If I had my way I would force you to be a hermit for the rest of your life, and never ever let you interface with another human being until you lie in the same position this murdering bastard lies in. Six feet under.

          • Debbie says:

            You seriously always make the most over the top, ridiculous comments on this site. That’s saying a lot, considering the way most of people love to bash on the criminals and their family members who come to defend them.

            Emma Rae is most likely young. And obviously still hurting.

            If you want to put her in her place, by all means do so, but to encourage violence toward someone else, someone who isn’t even the criminal in this case, is going overboard.

            For someone who claims to not let people’s comments on the internet get to them, you sure seem to get riled up A LOT.

            • Max The Cat says:

              I’m sorry, I seem to have missed the part where Maelstrom encouraged “violence toward someone else, someone who isn’t even the criminal in this case”.

              What I did see was her wish that someone as stupid and Emma-Rae won’t be able to spread the kind of thinking that allows her to call the murderer of his own children a good father.

              Even a little child knows that isn’t true.

            • Maelstrom says:

              Debbie,

              When someone says a man who shot his two young boys in cold blood is a “good father” you had god damn better believe that gets me “riled up”. I, like a lot of other posters on this site- am a parent, and that comment alone has got to be one of the most offensive and utterly ridiculous things I have ever heard.

              As far as “encouraging violence” towards anyone…Max addressed that far better than I could.

              It’s a shame that more people don’t get “riled up” over such inane and disgraceful comments Debbie. What I typed isn’t the offensive part. What is well and truly offensive and equally incomprehensible is your reaction to my comment.

            • vcbecky says:

              I love to bash on the criminals and their friends and family members who come here to defend them because it’s stupid to defend someone like that no matter what your ties are. You are absolutely correct in that, Debbie.

              I’m sure some of the angry posters are teenagers. Life is hard – consequences must happen. They learn a lot of lessons from this website when they interact with us, no matter how they approach us, open-handed or with balled fists. If they’re old enough to form an opinion and post it here, they’re old enough to deal with a response. If they’re too young for either, who in hell is monitoring their internet use and allowing them to come to a site like PYSIH? This is not the worst website online by far – if they are online here, they can be online there as well. And whose fault would that be?

              Sometimes we get friends and family who post in solidarity with the rest of us. They express shame and remorse, and the wish that they could have intervened on the victims behalf. These people we console and treat with kindness and understanding as victims themselves, because they truly are. They understand and only want to express themselves. Talking to strangers helps more than you know, sometimes.

              Those illogical, enabling friends and family members get something out of it too – they get to scream and fume at total strangers, and act like their friend/family member isn’t the real monster. They get to post here anonymously, completely off the cuff, illogically and mostly with incorrect information to keep them going. Most of them don’t have facts or even any real insight, they’re just angry at their criminal, and they need a place to aim it. They, to, are victims of the criminal. They don’t realize it yet, that’s the only thing that keeps them from being rational. It is not our job to absorb abuse because someone hurt someone else. No one would tolerate that.

              Their pain is not our fault, any more than it’s the fault of a judge, the jury, the department of records, police department, hospital, prison, news journalists, the people who manufactured a weapon used in a murder, the people who made the getaway car, the person who made a hamburger for the criminal to fuel them for the crime, the crew that poured the asphalt that let the criminal drive to his victim… or anyone else who might be ‘causing’ the friends/family pain. That is the fault of the criminal, and that’s it.

              No one forces these people to research their family monsters online. What, do they think they’ll find sunshine, roses and total forgiveness? Do they think people will forget? Their pain is not our fault.

            • Cape Town Girl says:

              VC Becky I am such a fan of your way with words.

              There is no doubt you are the Master.

              Its not just what you write but the way you do it, plus the effect it seems to have on the trolls is an added bonus.

            • Tiffany says:

              Emma u are something else. My daughter is laying about 5 ft. from me asleep. Tommorrow she get to go to skateland and then to the pool to have fun just like normal kids do. When she wakes up she’ll have a big nice breakfast cooked and 2 loving parents to wish her a Good morning.
              With all that being said how can dear ole sweet uncle Robby be a better parent than me and my husband? Guess what kiddo I have to take medicine everyday for mental illness. Yes it makes me feel different but I do realize I NEED IT TO MAINTAIN a normal productive life. I don’t say ok today i feel better but tommorrow i’m gonna kill my effin kid, write a sappy sad suicide note to portray myself as the victim yet again, then blow my fucking head off. Shit this sorry bastard should have wrote that note then shot himself instead of taking the kids with him. There’s no doubt in my mind that those angels are in HEaven having a good time while daddy’s like a shish-kobob(don’t know if i spelled it right) just roasting away. THEY ARE DAMN SURE NOT IN THE SAME PLACE AS HIM THO.

              Deb, you must be one of those bleeding heart liberals. What should we have done sit around the campfire and sang Kum-bi-eye while Emma just totally tries to bash ALL of OUR parenting skills? If you get that offended you might want to go to a “G” rated website because I’m pretty sure this one isn’t for kids or people that easily offended.

            • Emma-Rae says:

              Thank you for being the only one with enough sense to not try to hurt an 11 year old girl who is only looking at this stuff to see what creeps actually come on here to mentalybeat up a dead guy and his family. Sickos.

      • Jason says:

        “My Stars, where did you ever get that awful hairdo?
        It doesn’t become you at all.
        Here, for goodness sake, let me fix it up.
        Look how stringy and messy it is.
        What a shame!
        Such an interesting monster, too.
        My stars, if an interesting monster can’t have an interesting hairdo, then I don’t know what things are coming to.
        In my business, you meet so many interesting people.
        Bobby pins, please.
        But the most interesting ones are the monsters.
        Oh, dear, that’ll never stay. We’ll just have to have a permanent.
        Now, I’ve got to give an interesting old lady a manicure; but I’ll be back before you’re done.”

        –Bugs Bunny in Water, Water Every Hare
        Story by Michael Maltese, voiced by Mel Blanc

        Bugs Bunny said everything that I needed to say in response to this poster, and even managed at the end to make the monster look like he had an ass on his head at the end, by using dynamite for the permanent. I feel confident that Bugs would have mopped the floor with this particular cartoon character.

      • ApriL says:

        I thank God I didn’t know him, because I would have been devastated that a man I knew was capable of murdering himself and his own children. You are right we are judging him, and when we clicked that button we sent him to hell, where he belongs. Don’t you DARE say that he loved his children more then we love ours. I would NEVER take life away from my children, that is the most obscene and inhumane comment I have EVER read on this site. He could have killed himself, then there would be no more fucking custody battles!!!!!!!!!!! You are very ignorant, and I seriously hope you seek counseling because what kind of person can justify a man killing his own children out of love?

      • Max The Cat says:

        Oh sure Emma-Rae, Bob Roberts was just a peach of a guy, wasn’t he? Father of the Year material. Well, except for that arrest for child abuse in 2000. And wait, it looks like Bob-o was a thief too – He was being sued for taking money meant for a business venture and sticking it in his pocket – isn’t that right, Emma-Rae?

        Robert Roberts was nothing but a coward who couldn’t face the consequences of his actions – ever. He took his kids from this world because he was under the delusion that he was doing them a great favor, saving them from the embarrassment of facing what he couldn’t face himself. It’s the same story with guys like Bob-o every time. Truth is the best thing he could have done is offed himself and left them here.

        I pity you for your eyes that will not see, and your ears that will not hear. Robert murdered those kids – love had nothing to do with it.

      • Miwist says:

        I would be the last person in the world to judge him. I believe what he did is a fine idea.
        My 12 year old and my 15 year old have been running in and out all day, arguing about stupid shit, refusing to clean up their messes, and just is general being a pain in the ass.
        I think the best course of action would be to go buy me a shotgun and splatter their brains all over the living room and then after that I’ll blow my brains out.
        It should be a very pleasant surprise for my wife when she gets home, especially since she’ll know we’re all in heaven together. She’s pretty much a cleanin’ mom and she likes to paint so it’ll be nice for her to have something to do without us all gettin’ underfoot.

    17. The Bosses Secretary says:

      A story like this reminds me of why my husband reminds me to take my medication every day.

      Of course, he might be reminding me specifically because the person I would probably kill is him.

    18. Shannon says:

      If Emma-Rae is (as VCBecky supposed) a child,naive teen or mentally deficient adult,why bother wasting your time with such harsh and hyperbolic retorts?
      For a bunch of people so against what is basically people using size,strength or power to wreak havoc on others you have a pretty good handle on doing it yourselves in your own petty way.

      I’m not saying that what Emma-Rae and all the rest of the perp-supporters have to say isn’t stupid but how are you any less so trying to get one over them?Or maybe because your vocabulary is more extensive and your arguments are more articulate that makes you superior in the whole mud-flinging competition?

      Some of these comment pages remind me of being in highschool and being shouted down by the popular kids for daring to have a different thought or opinion.

      • Maelstrom says:

        Shannon,

        Becky laid out her argument very clearly, and made perfect sense explaining most of our comments.

        None of us are here to make perpetrators of these horrific crimes feel better, and the same applies for their deluded supporters. None of us are trying to “get one over on them”, and the comments made thus far have zero to do with “mud-flinging”. It’s more or less an attempt to verbally – or rather, textually drill some sense into the barely functioning mind of Emma-Rae.

        - If you want to rag on any of us for bashing 17 shades of shit out of Emma-Rae, that’s fine too. I won’t lose any sleep over it. You might also want to remember that none of us are holding a weapon to your head and forcing you to read our comments. See that red cross in in the upper right corner of the screen ? You can use that handy feature to spare yourself from reading our “hyperbolic retorts”.

        Easy enough, yeah ?

      • Jason says:

        The High School social drama that most of us hated, was like children playing with the gun of an adult. In the right hands and used under the correct circumstances, shame, is the tool that guides a society through the rings and around tragic circumstances.

        Finding the “right” place to be on a social issues, is a needful thing. Having useful and logical opinions that can be effectively communicated, is vital in being able to participate. Scorching off arguments of racist or child-sex advocating posts, only goes so far. Sometimes, there are those who come and defend the indefensible, solely because that person is connected to them through ties of family, race, or friendship that deserves a bit of introspection. The hyperbole serves as the “protected” way of delivering that response. Are they really stupid or dumb, as in, are they literally unable to hear or think competently? In most cases, they probably aren’t. Are they drug addled, saddled with sexual distractions, consumed by some disease or infection, or actually basing their logic off of some cult ideology that supports this stuff? Maybe, but seems a bit harsh.

        Do we always agree? Absolutely not, but we do have a few basic levels. Not one of the regulars supports baby rape, no one directly advocates actual murder, and vigilante justice, while played with, is always rejected by the logistics of the event. That last one is the most common and most accessible attack that people harp on. Second, is your angle, which is to question our motives for being here or commenting, if we abhor people who gang up and bully. That’s the hypocrite well, and it would almost work, if you weren’t stuck in the same well with us to make the comment, and if it didn’t always bring up the mirrored response of, then what brought you here?

        If your motives are other than one of the groups currently listed, you either fall below or above the spectrum of the normal posters. If you ignore the question, and try to soldier past it, your motives become “fair game,” and more suspect. If you present something basic about yourself, some people will try to humanize their efforts by giving you personal insights into why they were drawn here at first and the comfort found here in community. If you reject that community still, we start up at the beginning and question why you don’t see an advantage at being next to the fireside, when questioning the validity of protecting the circle from baby rapers and murderers. It’s kinda self-sustaining and it’s fairly wholesome if you boil it right down to it. This particular system has been working fairly well to establish and protect communities for thousands of years, and as we evolve, the subject matter that unites us only rarefies.

      • vcbecky says:

        I resent that. I was NEVER popular. Those kids were too stupid and self-absorbed to hang out with. I was in DRAMA, thank you ever so muchly.

        Shannon, sometimes it takes a stranger to state the truth in a way that a kid understands. She says her mother told her about this, and she didn’t believe her. It’s easier for a stranger to remain emotionally separate while being truthful, and possibly take the blame if the information is painful.

        I have no emotional connection to Emma-Rae, but I do remember when I was a very young girl and being angry when I realized that people were sugar-coating some things that they shouldn’t. Even as a young kid, I always resented being glad-handled by adults because I knew I was being cheated out of a lesson on how to deal with the real world. If a kid posts here, we would do them a great disservice if we were anything less but honest. If she has questions or misconceptions, it’s crueler to her if honesty is withheld than it is to learn a real truth.

    19. Emma-Rae says:

      Do you people get off by mentally abusing an 11 year old girl just trying to look for closure. I am trying the best I can to stay calm and not to scream. But if I ever talk to my mom or dad or older brother it is always the same old cleche thing. “It’s okay. They’re in heaven. They are probably playing baseball and playing dress up with Jesus.” When this happens to you, just post on here and tell me that you think the exact opposite than me. Oh yeah, you won’t. And please can everyone try to not try to cuss out an 11 year old kid. That is just pathetic.

      • Cape Town Girl says:

        Emma- Rae, in all fairness to the people who responded to your post they would have had no idea you were only 11 years old. Most 11 year olds do not have unrestricted internet access which would allow them to post on this site.

        Honey you are not going to find closure here.

        You mention mental abuse but do you see that you are subjecting yourself to the mental abuse by coming back here and posting?

        From what you have said it sounds like you have tried to tell your family that you are not handling this and they are fobbing you off with stories about heaven which clearly is not working.

        Have you told your Mom about coming here for closure? Maybe she will see this for what it really is, a cry for help and arrange some counselling.

        I don’t live in America but is there not some sort of Child Line you can call and they could put you in touch with a counsellor in your area if your Mom still does not take your pain seriously.

        I just want you to explore some other options to resolve your issues, cause believe me this is not the way.

        I wish you the very best for the future and hope you find some healing.

      • Homer says:

        Emma-Rae, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take you for your word that you are, in fact, only eleven years old. I hope you will understand why I felt the need to have that caveat right here at the beginning once you have read my reply to the end.

        First of all, nowhere in your first post did you say that you were an eleven-year old child looking for closure. In fact, the tone of your post was distinctly angry, and if you are a family member and this crime hurts you in ways many of us can only imagine, I understand why. But none of us here can see beyond your nym or your comment. And beginning a post by calling all the others “jerks” and then adding fuel to the fire by claiming a man who kills his children before killing himself loved his kids more than any of us can ever love our own… there’s simply no way that can be construed as anything other than a cheap and disgusting insult. This is why your comment got the – in my opinion entirely correct – response.

        To clarify, you gave the impression of being either an ignorant, adult family member or a troll looking to stir up shit. And to clarify further, Debbie might have been the only one to – in a sense – defend you and your comment, but having followed this site for a few years now, I have more understanding for Maelstrom than for Debbie. Debbie means well, don’t get me wrong. But we return here to your first post. I don’t have children, but even I was disgusted by your claim that I’d make a worse father than someone who has killed his.

        Please understand this – in the world of the sane, of the compassionate, of the rational and of the loving, the thought of killing your children NEVER EVER enters your mind. If the reaper comes calling you do everything you can to make sure he picks someone else than your children. You’re even willing to offer yourself just so that your kids will have a chance to escape his grasp. That is parental love. What robert roberts did isn’t. If it helps you to think he was no longer among the sane, then please do so. But do not ever again claim he loved his children more than anyone else.

        Second, you have a very good grasp of the english language for someone your age. When I was eleven, I had just read my first adult book – and no, I do not mean a dirty one, but a novel written for an adult audience – and though I did grasp the essence of that thriller, and it did open up a new world for me, two things strike me now: 1) it taught me how to use a dictionary; and 2) there were many things that I didn’t quite grasp until I was thirteen, fourteen, and many nuances that I didn’t realize existed until I fully understood what they meant.

        What I’m trying to say is that, if you are eleven years old, your post makes you – in my eyes at least – seem older.

        Third – and finally – if you really are that young, what are you doing on a site like this? Did you google robert roberts and find your way here? Whatever the reason, if you’re seeking closure, then personally I think you’ll have a hard time finding it here. What robert roberts did is an unforgivable crime, and until you accept that and see where the posters here are coming from, you will only be reminded of the pain he’s caused you.

      • Jason says:

        The kids may in fact be in heaven, that’s a comfort to me at least. The man so jealous of his ex-wife he had to kill his own kids in order to feel powerful again? That thing needs kicking in. We need to leave that behind us. We need to find a way to make things like that impossible for human beings to even try.

        I’m sorry you are an 11 year old and think you need to defend your uncle. He was a bad men and grown-ups call bad men bad things in an effort to prevent other bad men from following in their footsteps. It kind of works. It’s kinda what has to be done until we figure out a better way.
        I honestly hope you get to be a 12 year old, the same for 13, 14, 15, 25, 73 and good ole 108, as well as all years, months, days and seconds in between. I hope you have more happy moments than I do–I certainly do. I do hope, however, that you never choose to blind yourself. That when you laugh, you know why you’re laughing and that when you cry, you’re doing it for the right reasons. This is a tragedy. The Greeks coined that term, long before either of us was born to describe men having sex with their mother, killing their father and ending up being led around the countryside by their daughter, who would later kill herself. The Greeks didn’t tell these stories to one another to have someone act these events out. The Greeks wanted to avoid real life tragedies like these at all cost. Make no bones, the people here want the same.

      • Max The Cat says:

        Emma Rae, I went back and read my reply to you comment, and read your original comment also, and I won’t apologize for anything I said, even though I now know you are 11-years-old. The things I said to you are no different than what I would have said to my own daughter, if she was as misguided and confused as you seem to be.

        Remember, you chose to come to this website, insult us, and lecture us on why we had no right to condemn Robert Roberts actions and call him a monster. Well, you’re entitled to your opinion, but so are all of us, and speaking for myself, a man who takes the lives of his own children, for whatever reason, is pretty evil, and from the things I learned about him, I believe he did it out of cowardice. It’s what I believed then and it’s what I still believe today.

        And you know what – who cares what I think anyways? I’m just some anonymous guy on the internet, and I could be dead wrong about everything. Stop worrying about what people who don’t matter think about this situation.

        If you’re looking for closure, this is NOT the place to find it. I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist and neither are your parents and your brother. What you need is therapy by a honest to God professional. If you continue searching for your answers in websites or from friends family and acquaintances, you will continue to be frustrated and continue to be angry.

      • Mike says:

        Your uncle is in Hell. Sorry.

        He’s in Hell because he made some really bad choices. Chances are, he made some really bad choices because he had some mental problems. Sorry.

        Mental problems tend to run in families. Sorry, again.

        But the possibility exists that whatever mental dysfunction he suffered from is currently lying dormant in your brain or pumping through your veins. There’s a slight to moderate chance that you’re a ticking time bomb of kid-killing delight, and it is on that note that I encourage you to have yourself checked out by a mental health professional for your own safety, and for the safety of those around you.

        That way, if needed, you can get the help you need so that your own family doesn’t have to come onto this website and defend your honor when your lose your mind, flip out and destroy the things that should most precious to you.

        Only you can prevent the cycle.

    20. sideoutteam says:

      And the winner is….. Emma Rae for getting at least 120 minutes of time from the sites leading posters… lol

      • Max The Cat says:

        And the loser is…..sideoutteam for thinking that compassion is funny.

        It doesn’t bother me if I get fooled by some anonymous troll – If doing this is what it takes for you to get an erection, what can I do?

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