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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117704</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 20:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I wasn&#039;t as clear as I wanted to be. I meant that bad temperament could be inherited from the parents but it wasn&#039;t inherent just because a dog is of a specific breed.

When we got our Amstaff we went with a breeder who had titled, champion parents that had also been temperament tested by the American Temperament Test Society and also had their Canine Good Citizen from the AKC. A dog without those certs may have been a very nice dog too, but that&#039;s evidence of &quot;this dog has a good temperament and disposition to pass on to progeny&quot;. You couldn&#039;t GIVE me offspring from two aggressive parents. I might be able to nurture that behavior out, or the pup could inherit it regardless of what I wanted to do about it.

Short reply: I agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I wasn&#8217;t as clear as I wanted to be. I meant that bad temperament could be inherited from the parents but it wasn&#8217;t inherent just because a dog is of a specific breed.</p>
<p>When we got our Amstaff we went with a breeder who had titled, champion parents that had also been temperament tested by the American Temperament Test Society and also had their Canine Good Citizen from the AKC. A dog without those certs may have been a very nice dog too, but that&#8217;s evidence of &#8220;this dog has a good temperament and disposition to pass on to progeny&#8221;. You couldn&#8217;t GIVE me offspring from two aggressive parents. I might be able to nurture that behavior out, or the pup could inherit it regardless of what I wanted to do about it.</p>
<p>Short reply: I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: NavyCop</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117702</link>
		<dc:creator>NavyCop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aggression also comes with breeding. Irresponsible breeders produce poor quality animals, whether there be health defects, mental defects, or temperment issues. 
There are dogs that are specifically bred for their temperment qualities, just as there are dogs bred for their abilities. 
Yes, some dogs may start out well-mannered, only to have their good habits broken by moronic owners, but there are some that are just inherently aggressive. 
Having grown up with a Animal Behaviorist for a mother, I picked up a few things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aggression also comes with breeding. Irresponsible breeders produce poor quality animals, whether there be health defects, mental defects, or temperment issues.<br />
There are dogs that are specifically bred for their temperment qualities, just as there are dogs bred for their abilities.<br />
Yes, some dogs may start out well-mannered, only to have their good habits broken by moronic owners, but there are some that are just inherently aggressive.<br />
Having grown up with a Animal Behaviorist for a mother, I picked up a few things.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117700</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the Boerboel dog - a freaking HUGE dog bred to fight LIONS.

A dog&#039;s intended purpose may make it &quot;special needs&quot; (for example a herding type dog will go neurotic if someone is stupid enough to think it&#039;s an &quot;inside dog&quot;) and unsuitable for certain types of owners, but I have a VERY difficult time believing that ANY breed of dog is inherently aggressive.

Prone to aggressive behavior based on the parents, yes. Dispositioned to aggressive behavior based on upbringing by the owner, absolutely. Aggressive simply because it&#039;s a German Shepherd, Rottweiler, Akita, Chihuahua, Golden Retriever, American Staffordshire Terrier or Cocker Spaniel? Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the Boerboel dog &#8211; a freaking HUGE dog bred to fight LIONS.</p>
<p>A dog&#8217;s intended purpose may make it &#8220;special needs&#8221; (for example a herding type dog will go neurotic if someone is stupid enough to think it&#8217;s an &#8220;inside dog&#8221;) and unsuitable for certain types of owners, but I have a VERY difficult time believing that ANY breed of dog is inherently aggressive.</p>
<p>Prone to aggressive behavior based on the parents, yes. Dispositioned to aggressive behavior based on upbringing by the owner, absolutely. Aggressive simply because it&#8217;s a German Shepherd, Rottweiler, Akita, Chihuahua, Golden Retriever, American Staffordshire Terrier or Cocker Spaniel? Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117699</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That case matches statistics of unaltered dogs - the male was primary in the attack AND the dogs had attacked and killed livestock and other animals before.

I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s a golden retriever, ANY dog is dangerous in the hands of an irresponsible asshat.

The most common factors in dog attacks are the status of the dog (resident vs. family), the reproductive status of the dog (altered vs. unaltered) and the age of the victim. Children from 1 day to 12 years are most likely to get attacked while teenagers are almost never attacked.

Approzimately 2 dozen people will die annually from a dog bite related fatality.

250 children under the age of five will drown in a swimming pool in the same year.

The most unfortunate part (and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve mentioned it before) is that people who are attacked/killed by dogs that are NOT Pit Bulls get minimized because the media only cares about Pit Bull attacks. 

People need to stop being retarded about dogs. Dogs (of any breed) don&#039;t just randomly snap and kill someone. Two pit bulls attacked and killed a six year old child. What you DON&#039;T hear about in the news is that the two dogs had been abandoned in a basement for two weeks and ate rat poison (including the box) trying to survive after their owner died. Yeah...couldn&#039;t see that one coming.

And all the fucktards getting the BSL set up are doing it based on media reports, which don&#039;t necessarily represent reality. Letting the media have control of giving unbiased reporting is like asking the Senate to be fair when giving themselves raises. Ain&#039;t gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That case matches statistics of unaltered dogs &#8211; the male was primary in the attack AND the dogs had attacked and killed livestock and other animals before.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s a golden retriever, ANY dog is dangerous in the hands of an irresponsible asshat.</p>
<p>The most common factors in dog attacks are the status of the dog (resident vs. family), the reproductive status of the dog (altered vs. unaltered) and the age of the victim. Children from 1 day to 12 years are most likely to get attacked while teenagers are almost never attacked.</p>
<p>Approzimately 2 dozen people will die annually from a dog bite related fatality.</p>
<p>250 children under the age of five will drown in a swimming pool in the same year.</p>
<p>The most unfortunate part (and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve mentioned it before) is that people who are attacked/killed by dogs that are NOT Pit Bulls get minimized because the media only cares about Pit Bull attacks. </p>
<p>People need to stop being retarded about dogs. Dogs (of any breed) don&#8217;t just randomly snap and kill someone. Two pit bulls attacked and killed a six year old child. What you DON&#8217;T hear about in the news is that the two dogs had been abandoned in a basement for two weeks and ate rat poison (including the box) trying to survive after their owner died. Yeah&#8230;couldn&#8217;t see that one coming.</p>
<p>And all the fucktards getting the BSL set up are doing it based on media reports, which don&#8217;t necessarily represent reality. Letting the media have control of giving unbiased reporting is like asking the Senate to be fair when giving themselves raises. Ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: NavyCop</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117698</link>
		<dc:creator>NavyCop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people fail to understand is that there are breeds out there more dangerous than the Pit Bull. The Presa Canario or Canary Island Dog of Prey, was developed purely for attack and fighting purposes. Two Canary Island Dogs are responsible for the mauling death of Diane Whipple in in 2001, 5 days after her 33rd birthday. Upon autopsy, the coroner counted 77 bites on her body. The only places that remained unscathed were her scalp and feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people fail to understand is that there are breeds out there more dangerous than the Pit Bull. The Presa Canario or Canary Island Dog of Prey, was developed purely for attack and fighting purposes. Two Canary Island Dogs are responsible for the mauling death of Diane Whipple in in 2001, 5 days after her 33rd birthday. Upon autopsy, the coroner counted 77 bites on her body. The only places that remained unscathed were her scalp and feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117695</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment with tons of links, so it needs moderation. It&#039;s much nicer than this one.

Go to the National Canine Research Council&#039;s web site and read the Pit Bull Placebo by Karen Delise, partake of their final end of year dog bite related fatality reports and educate yourself on the media diarrhea infecting general society against Pit Bulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment with tons of links, so it needs moderation. It&#8217;s much nicer than this one.</p>
<p>Go to the National Canine Research Council&#8217;s web site and read the Pit Bull Placebo by Karen Delise, partake of their final end of year dog bite related fatality reports and educate yourself on the media diarrhea infecting general society against Pit Bulls.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117694</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, dog is a species, Pit Bull is a general classification meaning a short muscular dog with short hair and a blocky head. Years ago it used to mean American Pit Bull Terrier.

For your reading enjoyment: 

http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2009%20Final%20Report%20DBRF.pdf

Just out of my own curiosity, how many of these other fatalities did you hear about in the news? I&#039;m willing to bet none.

Also for your education and enjoyment: http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/the-problems-with-dog-bite-studies/

I also highly recommend the Pit Bull placebo by Karen Delise, found here:

http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/publications/230603563_Pit%20Bull%20Placebo.pdf


Unfortunately when reading this you may have to let go of the ideas planted in your head and actually be open minded that maybe, just MAYBE the media doesn&#039;t evenly report attacks by breeds other than Pit Bulls.

I personally find Chihuahuas to be aggressive little bastards - one of them actually bit my Pit Bull. The Pit Bull did nothing but my Golden Retriever beat the shit out of the Chihuahua. Holy shit, where did the stereotypes go?! I think the fabric of the universe may have unwound a little bit that day...

As the popularity of ANY breed increases, unsuitable owners obtain that breed. When unsuitable owners for ANY breed increase, so do the number of attacks by that breed.

I REALLY hope that you don&#039;t think because this loyal, devoted, intelligent and tenacious breed has been demonized by the media and ignorant people with false information that you believe Michael Vick shouldn&#039;t be punished more severely for what he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, dog is a species, Pit Bull is a general classification meaning a short muscular dog with short hair and a blocky head. Years ago it used to mean American Pit Bull Terrier.</p>
<p>For your reading enjoyment: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2009%20Final%20Report%20DBRF.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2009%20Final%20Report%20DBRF.pdf</a></p>
<p>Just out of my own curiosity, how many of these other fatalities did you hear about in the news? I&#8217;m willing to bet none.</p>
<p>Also for your education and enjoyment: <a href="http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/the-problems-with-dog-bite-studies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/the-problems-with-dog-bite-studies/</a></p>
<p>I also highly recommend the Pit Bull placebo by Karen Delise, found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/publications/230603563_Pit%20Bull%20Placebo.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/publications/230603563_Pit%20Bull%20Placebo.pdf</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately when reading this you may have to let go of the ideas planted in your head and actually be open minded that maybe, just MAYBE the media doesn&#8217;t evenly report attacks by breeds other than Pit Bulls.</p>
<p>I personally find Chihuahuas to be aggressive little bastards &#8211; one of them actually bit my Pit Bull. The Pit Bull did nothing but my Golden Retriever beat the shit out of the Chihuahua. Holy shit, where did the stereotypes go?! I think the fabric of the universe may have unwound a little bit that day&#8230;</p>
<p>As the popularity of ANY breed increases, unsuitable owners obtain that breed. When unsuitable owners for ANY breed increase, so do the number of attacks by that breed.</p>
<p>I REALLY hope that you don&#8217;t think because this loyal, devoted, intelligent and tenacious breed has been demonized by the media and ignorant people with false information that you believe Michael Vick shouldn&#8217;t be punished more severely for what he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2007/12/10/michael-vick/#comment-117693</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BSL (also known as Breed Discriminatory Legislation) is based on false, unverifyable information and media reports. Media reports are biased. Who wants to hear about the black lab that killed a child in an infant carrier (true story) or a pomeranian that killed a newborn (true story) when they can sensationalize a Pit Bull attack so much better? There was a pack of dogs in the Pacific North West harassing some horses at a rescue, one of the horses had to be euthed because of it. No Pit Bulls in the pack but there was at least one Chihuahua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSL (also known as Breed Discriminatory Legislation) is based on false, unverifyable information and media reports. Media reports are biased. Who wants to hear about the black lab that killed a child in an infant carrier (true story) or a pomeranian that killed a newborn (true story) when they can sensationalize a Pit Bull attack so much better? There was a pack of dogs in the Pacific North West harassing some horses at a rescue, one of the horses had to be euthed because of it. No Pit Bulls in the pack but there was at least one Chihuahua.</p>
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