We here at People You’ll See In Hell will be the first to admit:
We’re not big fans of Shari’a law.
57-year-old Muhammad Parvez, a cab driver in Toronto, Canada, is a perfect example of why.
A religious man who would stop his cab at least three to four times a day to pray, Muhammad was having a hard time bringing his 16-year-old daughter, Aqsa Parvez, in-line.
She was so problematic that he was forced to take slightly more drastic physical measures than usual to make sure she got the idea that he was in charge.
Oh my. Sounds bad.
What was the little tramp doing?
Was she staying out late at night?
Was she drinking?
Was she doing drugs?
Was she sleeping with boys?
Was she considering the act of smiling at a Jew?
No! Aqsa Parvez, didn’t want to wear a hijab anymore.
Muhammad Parvez wanted his daughter to look like this:
And, being a normal teenager in Canada, Aqsa Parvez wanted to look like this:
Aqsa Parvez had been obeying her father for the last few years, wearing the hijab at school. Recently, however, she had decided that maybe, possibly, a woman could think for herself in Canada and not be killed for it.
Aqsa Parvez would leave home wearing a hijab and loose-fitting clothes, but would take off her head scarf and change into tighter garments at school, then change back before going home at the end of the day.
Well, for Muhammad Parvez, who was a strict adherent of the religion of peace, that just wouldn’t do.
So, on the 10th of December, 2007, at eight in the morning, emergency operators received a call from a man who informed them that he had just killed his daughter.
Emergency medical crew rushed Aqsa Parvez to the hospital, but nothing the doctors could do was able to save her life and she died late that night.
Her friends at school alerted the local media just why her father would do such a thing to his daughter.
She wanted to go different ways than her family wanted to go, and she wanted to make her own path, but her father wouldn’t let her.
Another of her friends, Dominiquia Holmes-Thompson, told the media that:
She loved clothes. She just wanted to show her beauty … She just wanted to dress like us, just like a normal person.
Well, thanks to Muhammad Parvez, Aqsa Parvez will never be a normal person.
She is now a dead person - the latest victim of religious extremism.
In case you were curious, here is Aqsa’s MySpace page, where her last mood was “horny.”
Muhammad, who was arrested by police as medical workers carried away his daughter, now faces a charge of murder.
His 26-year-old son, Waqas Parvez, was charged with obstructing police.
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That’s insane. I can’t stand people who can’t comform to the present day and times. Things change. People need to change with the times. You’d think that he would’ve killed her over something more drastic, but then again they can’t stand to show skin.
Back in high school there was a muslim on my basketball team and she had to always wear long sleeved shirts under her jersey and pants instead of shorts. I think it’s ridiculous, but I guess I understand the religious aspect. That makes me hypocritical, I just don’t understand the extremeties of his decision. And as far as the son obstructing police was probably because a lot of the time in instances like these the men are thought of as holyier (spell check) and more almighty than anyone else. It’s a bonding thing I guess.
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I am completely horrified that 12 people voted “NO” on this one.
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“Back in high school there was a muslim on my basketball team and she had to always wear long sleeved shirts under her jersey and pants instead of shorts. I think it’s ridiculous, but I guess I understand the religious aspect.”
Reason being so men won’t stare at her. This isn’t extreme my friend, it’s covering up and not letting half your tits hang out (which is mostly why most muslim women cover up), what would’ve been ridiculous, asides from your stupid comment, is if she were wearing sunglasses- in the middle of winter, inside a building.
If a christian white man kills another man in the name of God, the media will focus more on how he killed his victim(s) and won’t dare to put down his religion or won’t focus on it too much.
Clear things up, i’m not on the fathers side, I think he’s completely idiotic as to how far he went.
I feel no sympathy towards both of them.
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i vote on yes, people who kill deserve to rot in hell. But still, i feel no sympathy towards the victim and the killer.
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Extremists like him give a bad name to Islam. I am Muslim and I’m absolutely disgusted by what he did. If he doesn’t like his daughter to wear Western clothing, why did he come to Canada? He should have stayed back in Pakistan. Honour killings aren’t even accepted in Islam, this is just a sick cultural tradition that predates Islam. I hope he suffers and burns in hell.
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“Reason being so men won’t stare at her. This isn’t extreme my friend, it’s covering up and not letting half your tits hang out (which is mostly why most muslim women cover up), what would’ve been ridiculous, asides from your stupid comment, is if she were wearing sunglasses- in the middle of winter, inside a building.”
Dummy, if you are playing basketball in front of people and are holding the basketball then people of all sexes will be looking at you!
Furthermore, wearing clothes does not stop your tits (or any other part of you) from bouncing.
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Muslim women wear modest clothes which includes Hijab so that they can be identified as Muslim girls, to demonstrate that they are not interested in flirtatious interaction , and to avoid harrassment by men. This is from the Quran.
Therefore, to insist that islamic dress will not prevent people from looking at you has nothing to do with the purpose of Hijab.
You dont agree with it, good for you. You want to criticize people and call them names for performing that religious duty, then you are also an extremist.
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s—why do you feel no sympathy for the victim…what did she do wrong??
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“Dummy, if you are playing basketball in front of people and are holding the basketball then people of all sexes will be looking at you!
Furthermore, wearing clothes does not stop your tits (or any other part of you) from bouncing.”
People will be looking at you but won’t be lusting you, big difference smartass (sarcasm on the smartass.)
Asim, i agree with what you said as to “flirtatious interaction , and to avoid harrassment by men” because that’s what i meant Bianca.”
Clearly the girl moved her hijab and wore tight outfits so she can get attention from the men at school, while the basketball player covered up, see the difference?
Im not saying the girl deserved to get killed because of taking it off, thats why i called the father idiotic. It’s just disappointing as to how religion should be focused on, then again, everyone’s racist, right?
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Asim Raja:
I have no problem with Muslim women voluntarily wearing such garb. Women as well as men should be allowed to wear whatever their heart tells them to wear.
I have a problem with the fact that Islamic tradition leads to Muslim men killing women and girls whose hearts do not lead them down the same path. That is, I think, one of the problems that most people have with Islam.
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The religion of peace strikes again!
Hope that fucker rots in hell for all eternity. Wearing the Hijab is a choice, not mandatory. I was never a religious person (thankfully) and this probably gave that a boost.
Wake up!
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I do hate extremists, but i hate it when people become so close minded they don’t blame the man but blame his religion for the cause of what he has done. No where in the Quraan does it state you kill a women if she moves her hijab, or smile at a jew which this article stated- but im sure it was a bitter joke. It was his choice, his ideology, not the books’.
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I agree with some things said on this website, and disagree with others…I feel sympathy for the victim because this was a senseless killing…if she didnt want to wear hijab, her father shouldn’t have tried to force her. But this article and the purpose of this website is completely stupid. How self-righteous is this author to think that they know what the father wanted her to dress like? Burkha (the outfit depicted in the photo) is completely different than hijab…and the two pictures dont do a good job of showing “imprisoned woman versus free woman.” If you ask me, the supposed liberated Canadian underage girl trying to use her body for attention is more pathetic. Y and Moeed, I can’t believe you’re Muslim for hoping others burn and rot in hell.
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I actually know this girl personally. When she first came to Canada back in Grade 6, when she was about 11, she used to wear a hijab and she was very modest. We used to make fun of her in a playful way though, and she didn’t take it TOO seriously. It is a tragedy that such a thing happened to a girl, I would never imagine that this would happen to Aqsa, and that Aqsa would be killed by her parents. I recall her saying, “My mom and dad are my best friends”.
Rest in Peace
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I don’t know about other countries, but I do know that in the good old USA, if you don’t want anyone looking at your daughter, maybe having her dress head to toe in a sheet like a ghost is not the best idea.
Every time I’ve been anywhere that someone has been dressed like that, all heads turn and watch them, because instead of ‘hiding’ them as they think- it makes them stand out.
And, maybe in some other country advertising how ‘pure’ you are is a good deterrent…. but our culture, especially for sicko perverts, actually gets more turned on by the possibility of being the one to ruin someone’s purity or take their virginity. So it would be like hanging a big sign around a girl’s neck saying ‘I’m a virgin and I won’t even flirt with you’. (Which will be taken as an exciting challenge by some.)
Kind of like the time my mother made me some YELLOW pants. I wore them one time, and never again, because nobody else wears yellow pants. Years later, still nobody wears yellow pants. I got more unwanted attention that day than any other. Making your child too different is a good way to cause them problems. And, since I grew up in a strict BAC family, I can attest to the fact that you can have religious rules without dressing like a freak. I would guess that’s one of the reasons religious people like the Amish or strict Jews form their own communities- so that they don’t have to deal with looking like freaks in other communities. People tend to start adapting to the customs and dress of whatever country or community they are in, not the other way ’round.
None of which matters. The religion part doesn’t matter much either. What bothers people is what kind of parent would interpret a religious book to mean that they should kill their family members if they don’t approve of their choices or feel they might be embarrassed.
My boys would be dead hundreds of times over if I killed them every time they disappointed me, embarrassed me, or didn’t obey me… but they aren’t dead, because I LOVE THEM.
And THAT is the real problem. It is impossible to fathom how a child could be loved enough to feed, care for, educate… and then just emotionlessly murder them because you couldn’t control every detail of their life. And then seemingly not care, not miss them, and feel justified about their death. That’s what bothers people. That even their other family members act like they could care less.
There is something very abnormal and inhuman about that. Not the religion. Not the kids defying the parents. The KILLING and not caring part.
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S - While traditionally, Muslims have recognized many different forms of clothing as satisfying the demands of hijab, there has been a recent clamor (by Muslim men) for Muslim women to go further than is strictly necessary and burkha-ing out.
And burkha is NOT completely different than hijab. ‘Hijab’ refers to not only women’s head and body covering, but also a spatial curtain that divides or provides privacy, which is something that a burkha certainly provides.
And yes, while this girl wasn’t wearing a burkha per se, her father did want her to wear something similar.
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agree with some things said on this website, and disagree with others…I feel sympathy for the victim because this was a senseless killing…if she didnt want to wear hijab, her father shouldn’t have tried to force her. But this article and the purpose of this website is completely stupid. How self-righteous is this author to think that they know what the father wanted her to dress like? Burkha (the outfit depicted in the photo) is completely different than hijab…and the two pictures dont do a good job of showing “imprisoned woman versus free woman.†If you ask me, the supposed liberated Canadian underage girl trying to use her body for attention is more pathetic. Y and Moeed, I can’t believe you’re Muslim for hoping others burn and rot in hell.
I didnt say that dumbass.
admin - ok, changed the 2nd S to “S #2″ to differentiate between you two
You might want to register your name if you want to comment on a regular basis.
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saying ‘I’m a virgin and I won’t even flirt with you’. (Which will be taken as an exciting challenge by some.)
no it wont, it means you have no chance with me, screw off! unless she’s revealing most of herself so it would be quite hypocritical but will be one hell of a challenge. But if shes covered and says that, then they’ll turn to someone who’s giving it all if they really want to get laid so bad. and I DONT SYMPATHIZE, whoever said they were ’s’ nice try you piece of shit.
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And wtf, describing a hijab as a curtain… why in the world would i say curtain that’s pretty lame ’s’.. the other ’s’ , get another name you copycat impersonating piece of shit. Have your own opinions and don’t try shoving them down my throat (figure of speech, moron)
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Okay wait i sounded a bit too mean there. I apologize.
I don’t know what people from pakistan and stuff do so I am being closed minded.
Im just saying, its not the religion, its the man himself, muhammad parvez, who’s to be blamed for this, not his religion. The Quraan doesn’t tell you to kill, he takes his faith and twists it to satisfy how he feels towards certain things. He isn’t fighting for God, he’s just an idiot and when the day comes when we’re all dead… we’ll see what happens and what was true and what wasn’t. Ciao ~
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This is absolutely shocking.
Also sad is the fact that some of you can envelop the entire religion as part of this. From what I’ve read about Islam, it asks for modesty in clothing. It asks for no extremism; not extremely religious, not extremely worldly.
This story is on of a moron [the father]. He wanted his daughter to do something in the religion, so he ABSOLUTELY CROSSED THE LINE, and did something TOTALLY blasphemous, disgraced, and disallowed in the religion to get her to do it.
So when I see this article attack the entire religion, it’s disappointing.
“Well, for Muhammad Parvez, who was a strict adherent of the religion of peace, that just wouldn’t do.”
If Parvez is a strict adherent to the religion of peace, he wouldn’t have done what he did. Because being a strict adherent of the religion of peace would mean that he would not kill his daughter. Or go anywhere near where he went. Or even think about doing what he did.
I am not one to decide who goes to hell or heaven. But this man is a moron, and hope that he faces the stiffest possible punishment.
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S, or S, or SS, or whoever you are-
You are incredibly out of touch.
Yes, there are some people (I guess men) who will definitely gravitate towards the ‘easy’ girls.
But there is a whole ‘nother mindset of people who don’t. They gravitate towards people they perceive as being pure or virginal. If you doubt me, just watch the Predator show on TV. It’s no coincidence that most of those predators target younger girls, and specifically ask whether they are virgins, and it is obvious that the fact that they are virgins is what turns them on.
When I was in high school, I knew several girls that some people would call ‘easy’ because of their dress or actions. I also knew some ‘goody-two-shoes’ cheerleaders. And it may surprise you to know that both of those groups got just as much action- the only difference was that the cheerleaders pretended they didn’t.
Demonizing sexuality is not the answer. Enforcing the age of consent, (and if you don’t like the age of consent, then lobby to your heart’s desire) is the way to go.
It would be rather silly for me to move to a country where the norm is to go to the beach topless and with a g-string, and then insist that my girls wear woolen swimsuits from the 1920s. And then to kill my daughters because they went topless.
If you do not like the customs of a certain country, then by all means, do not move there, so you won’t be ‘forced’ to kill the children you supposedly love so much. I hope my sarcasm is coming through loud and clear. Who the fuck kills their children because they embarrass them, or because they dont wear the clothes they like?
Parents who didn’t love their children anyway.
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Exactly GloryBug, and that is why you can tell that this man is a total nut case, lunatic, and whatever other negative derogatory word there is.
But I’m really bothered by the fact that some people make it seem like it’s the RELIGION that called for him to kill his daughter. It didn’t. It’s just some whack job who did the VERY thing that he WASN’T supposed to or allowed to do.
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SS I do agree with you on some of that.
But since I dont know exactly what any other books say besides the Bible, I can’t talk with expertise about that.
If any other religion’s book DOES actually say that you HAVE to kill your children if they do a-b-c… I’d have to say you should disobey your religion at that point, because it is just not moral to kill people. Especially your own children.
Like I said, I grew up in a very strict BAC house, and they believe it’s a-ok for all the killing to go on back east, because they believe that as soon as the Temple is rebuilt, all the Christians will ascend to the heavens. So they somehow welcome all that killing.
I obviously am against that.
Almost every religion has some freakish habits that go against morality. And even though I was brought up BAC, there’s a ton of things the Bible says I can or should do, which I would never do, because I know that it is wrong and/or immoral. Killing my own children is one of them.
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I dont’ think it’s the religion that called him to kill her. I think it’s because he believed those beliefs and aspects of life that his daughter was starting to rebel against. The rebelling against her father based on the religious beliefs is what pushed him over I think. Needless to say, still not ok.
As far as the basketball stuff, I meant that because it’s hot enough playing basketball in a gym, let alone completely covered up. I’m sure you’ll agree if you’ve ever played a team sport. And on top of that, wearing a basketball jersey, your boobs are going nowhere. Believe me, I was staring at any chick I could. Hello, high school horn dog. There was nothing showing let alone attractive about a bunch of sweaty chicks. Take cheerleading…not that I have anything against cheerleaders, they were some of my best friends, but they were the ones who were suppose to “flaunt” their bodies. People stare at them and I can understand if there was someone who had to be covered up on that aspect, but maybe they shouldn’t be doing that but basketball?
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Moron. (the father)
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I don’t want to bash anybody here but this is more than a religious thing in my view… Check out this article.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6934540.stm
You’ll see that, even if it is in India, things are grimm lookin’ for girls in India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka if you ask me.
I sincerly hope he gets it… But since this is Canada (the only country in the world where a serial killer is given a second degre murder charge :|), he’ll probably get a little sentence… All this intended not to offend anyone…
He won’t go to hell nor heaven… He’ll just die someday. Hell should be while he’s alive…
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See more on the horrors done to little girls in those countries :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6373043.stm
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this reminds me of when a girl in my hometown (in the states) was killed by her father for being a typical teenager…. even though she wasn’t corrupt, holding a part-time job, and going to community college while in high school… he actually killed himself afterwards though.
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The fuckin guy is sick in the head, he should be punished by sentencing to death, he does not deserve to live. How can you kill your own blood this is sooo disgusting! And hez trying to cover himself by saying that its “honor killing” BS.BS.
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As, in all the media and islamic groups will stand up and say it is a choice for a women to wear a Hijab, this is just said to put the issue under the rug!
Young girls in kindergarden wear hijab are they given a choice obviously not it is there parents wish to wrap them in hijab !
All the muslim women are obligated to wear hijab, as that is the most preferred way for them to surrender for islam.
This tragic event is a wake up call for islam. Muslim’s need to understand women are human beings not puppets wrapped in clothes.
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Umm S, like you I am entitled to my opinion thank you- just because I’m Muslim does not mean that I can’t wish someone should go to hell. This man is a killer, I am obviously upset by his actions.
Glorybug what does BAC stand for?
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sorry for you,
I think it’s the culture that puts women down, not religion.
The wake up call is for Muslims to giving Islam a bad name, I’m so sick of it.
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okay..”s”..honestly you should stop critisizing other people’s opionions..you have yours and they have theirs..and i have many friends that are muslim..and they tell me thinsg about the Quran…infact today we were talking about this incident..she told me that it is YOUR choice weather you would like to wear a hijab…(you notice how im emphasizing the word YOUR)..and if he actually was a “religious” person as he calls himself..he would have respected her decision..and did he..NO..as a muslim..you shouldnt harm anyone or yourself..who does it honestly concern if she wears tight clothes or not..HER..and only her..im not saying her parents dont have a right in telling her what to do..because afterall they are her parents..but its her decision and he should have respected that..and honestly that family was terrible..i have a friend who goes to that school..and she was friends with Aqsa…and while this incident was happening people were home..but no one tried to stop it..honestly i agree with “y”..like they said..its the culture not the religion that puts women down..and the wake up call is for muslims to giving Islam a bad name..all these assassins and terrorists..and killing in the name of god..but in the Quran you take responsibility for your own actions..and for sure allah…would not be proud of the actions of these people..anyways i have said what i have to…so peace
P.S..”s” just stfu
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For whoever asked, BAC stands for ‘born again christians’. They are pretty strict.
Brittany- you bust me up. And, you are right- the cheerleaders were the ones with the big tatas, and they flaunted them 24/. The girls on the basketball/volleyball teams may have had as large of breast, and they might have been a-bouncing around, but it was because they were involved in an actual sport. The cheerleaders were the ones who bounced their tits around and wore tight, lowcut clothes for no reason.
Being forced to wear ling-sleeves and pants while you are participating in a non-sexual sport is just kind of cruel. You’re already identified as the ‘freak’, but you also end up being the ’sweaty’ freak.
I think it’s kind of funny and ironic that some cultures don’t allow women to be in the company of men. That would be the best testing grounds for checking out lesbianism. Except that because they are so repressed, the men wouldn’t be able to figure it out, much less be voyeuristic about it. Funny all ’round.
But, yes, some people move to the USA and refuse to live by our laws or acknowledge our basic rights. I worked with a young Indian (from India, and not to be confused with me being Pottowatomie Indian) girl who’s mother used to send her to work every morning with these fantastic spicy ‘parathas’. She flat out told me that she was not allowed to be around any men, and that although she did have some guy she loved, she had already been promised to some old fart. That there was no chance her parents would allow her to marry the boy she loved. She made it clear that if she got caught with the boy she actually loved, that her parents would kill her.
Literally kill her. I reminded her that she now lives in the USA, and she just laughed. She said that what happens is that they get sent back home, and are killed there, and that she did not want to die, and therefore was going to have to marry some decrepit geezer instead of the boy she loved.
That is hard to understand, since she was a very good girl, and her father had come to my house to pick pomegranates, and her mother had sent her to work each day with Indian food for me while I was pregnant…. but she assured me that those same people would arrange for her to be killed if she disobeyed them. She said she had cousins in the USA who were sent back specifically to be killed.
She told me that she was not going to stop seeing the boy she liked. Then she disappeared. Her parents called and said she would not be working at the pharmacy any more, because she’d ‘gone home’. I never saw her again. Her last paycheck was never cashed. 2 years later, her paycheck was not cashed.
I don’t think the USA is perfect, but I think that anyone wanting to live here should adjust to our laws and customs. Otherwise, just don’t move here!
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Ok muslim religion is fucking dumb alright. I haven’t heard ANYTHING good about it. (to mae thing right, i personally don’t like any kind of existing religion. i’m agnostic) Religion should prevent people from doing bad things, and to create a peaceful and good-for-living society. And this bullshit muslim shit just kills people! 1488!!
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Now I really feel like family. Thanks Glorybug!!
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I’m totally disgusted by the comment made by “Asim Raja”. I don’t care what religious books say, women should not have to dress that way to avoid being harrassed by men. If the temperature is 35 degrees celcius with 80% percent humidity I should be able to walk down the street in shorts and a tank top (because it’s fucking hot outsite and I want to get some exercise without getting heatstroke) with out morons leering at my breasts and trying to hit on me. Despite what many americans believe it gets very hot in Toronto in the Summer and I feel sad when I see those women who have to dress that way to avoid “flirtatious interaction”. There are lots of nice guys out there but there are way too many morons who have no idea how to treat women with respect. This is a problem it’s definetely not restricted to muslims. It wasn’t that long ago that a man could go to court with the defense that the woman was dressed in sexy clothes and be aquitted of raping her.
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I don’t think the father deserves to go to hell. He was raising a rebel teen. One that went out and could have been doing who knows what, with evidence that it was nothing to be proud of. If she didn’t like what her family told her to do then why did she bother returning there? Afraid that her family would come after her? oh wait where were her friends now?
Yes references to modesty are mentioned in the Quran, but remember people that dress modest are prone to being raped and checked out too, but maybe at a lower level. Her family telling her to dress modestly was just their way of looking out for her. Every family is different, and what went on in their family is what goes on in millions of other families; one rotten apple shouldn’t go destroying the enjoyed, lived with, adapted and passed on tradition of others.
I am Muslim too, and I chose to wear pants and a sleeved shirt under my lacrosse uniform when I played for the school and I did it proudly. I didn’t need to wear a hijaab to be identified as a Muslim nor did this way tell it either and every goal I scored didn’t have me recognized for the way I dressed or my religion but how I intercepted the ball and the speed that I threw it at. I don’t wear hijaab and many in my family do not either but I do choose to dress modestly, but then again that’s just how I live my life, no better nor worse than anyone else.
Muhammad Parvez wanted his daughter to wear hijaab (just a head covering) NOT niqaab (face covered like the blue picture), a jilbab (loose overcoat), or an abaya (hijaab + loose overcoat). He wanted her to do something just as a parent would want his kid to eat right or take their medication. There are many ways to wear the hijaab and report show pictures of the different styles Aqsa experimented with; such as to cover the ears, show them, cover them but show earrings etc. It’s the parents money they can choose what to get her to wear, at 16 there’s not many sources where she was getting the clothes on her own. The girl was dressing as she was to fit in, showing she herself had problems wanting to be like everyone else instead of being an individual.
As an “extremist” who was well known in America once said: “Only in America are you free to take your clothes off, but you’re not free to put them on”.
What annoys me is if her friends knew there were problems at home why didn’t they get law enforcement involved in the first place? Why wait to say “oh she had things going on” and “ohh I know she was going through stuff” until now? If she thought she could do well living with her “friends”, she should have had her “friends” buy her stuff instead of returning to her father’s home to pick up “her” stuff.
So many are going around saying these ”old ways” should be done with. These ”old ways” have continued for generations and have bought us here to how we are now. Some have benefited from them some have not. Most have similar things in their lives called “traditions”. It’s tradition for some to have turkey on Thanksgiving and get presents on Christmas, but not everyone feels these activities are worthy for them. Why does government support anonymous drop offs of unwanted babies why not have one for disowned kids too? Make killing illegal and signing one’s kid away legal. It’s like the kid died because they are no longer theirs nor with them, but they’re still alive with the government somewhere else.
Maybe in the end it’s Aqsa that goes to hell, for all that she’s put her family through before and after her death and the backlash against south asian culture she’s caused.
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alyssa—your as fucked up as he is.just because she was rebelious does not mean her father had a right to kill her.and i knew you were gonna say you were muslim as soom as you started of defending that monster who is obviously so going to hell….
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Allysa- I have some problems with the opinions you’ve expressed here.
You start off by saying that the daughter was doing things “evidence that it was nothing to be proud of. ” Oh, really? I cannot imagine that killing your own daughter over her clothing choices is something very many people would be very proud of, either.
You say, “that’s just how I live my life, no better nor worse than anyone else”, but I don’t believe you mean that, as you seem pretty proud of your own self-described ‘modesty. In fact, your comments really imply that if she’d acted more like you, she wouldn’t have been murdered.
Then you say, “As an “extremist†who was well known in America once said: “Only in America are you free to take your clothes off, but you’re not free to put them onâ€. They must not be very well-known here in the US, because not only do I not know who you are quoting, the quote makes no sense. Who in the US is not free to wear as many layers of clothes as they want?
We are kind of against people FORCING other people to wear more clothes than they want, and against killing those people if they don’t want to wear them.
You criticize the girl for wearing certain clothes to ‘fit in’, yet that is exactly what you think she should be doing. Except you want her to have tried to ‘fit in’ to the group you belong to, instead.
I think you are a very misguided person if you think it’s reasonable to compare traditions like Christmas and Thanksgiving with what you call your ‘old ways’. Since I am a vegetarian, I don’t eat turkey on Thankgsgiving or any other day. Even though my parents do every year. I also do not share their religion. They have not killed me for not thinking, eating or dressing like them. Is murder for petty things really a tradition that should be kept alive at all?
You say, “Maybe in the end it’s Aqsa that goes to hell, for all that she’s put her family through before and after her death and the backlash against south asian culture she’s caused.” I am very confused by your logic. The girl did not put her family through anything after her death. They brought it on themselves for having killed her. And I have not seen any backlash against south asian culture from this. Why is it so hard to understand that murder is illegal in our country, and we don’t like anyone who murders, whether for religious reasons or otherwise. But, by phrasing it like you did, you rather imply that murder IS a part of south asian culture.
I really wish people who move here from other countries would at least look into what is legal/illegal in America. And then, if they want to continue some ‘tradtion’ that is illegal here… just don’t effen move here. Stay home. Funny, that the dad chose to ignore our laws, because of his lack of respect for our ‘culture’. He’s going to get a big fat dose of the culture he doesn’t like while he’s working his way through our court system.
On a personal note, I don’t respect any religion or culture that places the blame for men’s actions on women. Or treats women like dirt or property. Or doesn’t love their children enough to not kill them if they displease them.
And, I find it bizarre that anyone could defend this kind of evil. I think the father should get the death penalty or life in prison, and then go straight to hell. But he probably won’t. Only because it’s obvious that he has no soul anyway.
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Dear Posters,
This is a case of a man gone crazy, because he feels he has lost control of his daughter’s action. The headscarf could very well be the issue at hand, but quite frankly should not be the core issue. There are a lot of things at play here which should have been addressed. If suspicions arised about this girl’s life being in danger, then they should have been escalated without delay. Secondly, any family members present in the home when this was happening, prior to the murder or even during the strangulation should have tried to stop it. What about the adult brother - he has a responsibility too. This is not a complete list of oversights, as I am sure there are more, but demonstrates how others just sat around and passively let this happen. This man will most probably go to court, get a 2nd degree murder conviction, but the loss of a teenager will never be reversed. Ultimately, justice, depending on how you look at it, will be hard to be served. Anyone in that family, and I say this without being present, that stood around are guilty of some sort of passive negligence leading to murder - and they should and will have to live with this forever.
Peace.
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what makes you think that’s really her myspace page? Were you born yesterday? Anybody could have thrown that up.
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Robert:
If she logs back in, I’ll take that link down. :)
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I’m tired of these bastards and their 7th century mentalities, where everything is ok if it’s for “Islam”. Fuck that. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure…..
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The people who voted NO are undoubtedly muslims who believe that women should be subservient to men and should wrap themselves up like a toffee so that no man can see an inch of her flesh. These same bastards look at our women with saliva dripping like a mad dog. That is totally permissible in their religion where it is common knowledge that Allah and Mohammed were both openly gay. Which other relgion tells men that they can marry as many wives as they want, but a women can only accept one dick. Pathetic barbarians. People, go back to your caves and leave our civilized society alone.
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Alyssa, you are a typical muslim who believes that men need to dominate you. Your life is doomed which is OK for you. You have a problem when someone like Aqsa decides that they need to lead a different life.
You people are what I call sub-human. You don’t belong in this day and age and if you do, may I respectfully ask you to leave our civilized world and go back to your backward Islamic countries where it is normal. You do not belong here and don’t try to preach to the western culture. We are too tolerant for your bunch. As someone said above, it is time we nuked you all. I am sure it is coming.
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Wow John bravo to you, you really know your Islam don’t you?
What makes you think that all the Muslims voted NO? I am a Muslim and I wouldn’t vote No, some ppl here purposely could have voted No to spite others!
First of all, YOU sound like the typical uneducated anti-Muslim supporter who will go to any extent to speak low of Muslims when clearly it’s obvious you’ve probably never personally known any Muslim.
How can you make such a stupid comment to say that Allah and Muhammed are gay?? That makes no sense
Umm Allah= God duh it’s not like we have our own separate God.
And polygamy is an ancient tradition that was practiced in ALL parts of the world…people still do it in America..have you heard of Mormons???
And since when did any woman accept male dominance?? C’mon pleaseeeee
Some of these people are culturally backward, it has nothing to do with religion ok.
People like you are pathetic; go educate yourself, seriously.
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Oh and to stay on topic, I don’t think her father killed her because she refused to wear a hijab- that’s lame ok.
He probably was messed up in the head, any man who kills his daughter is messed up and clearly he deserves to rot in hell.
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The reality is this has nothing to do with Shari’ah, as the author writes. This has to do with the intolerance of the idiot father, Muhammad Parvez, who could not see his daughter living a “Western life” by not wearing the hijab. It’s ridiculous and stupid. This is an example of why people who cannot raise their children as they desire to in the West, should go back to their home country. Because all they’re doing is stressing themselves out and confusing their children.
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i really dont think its rite to do that
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but 1 question.. y would a dad kill his own daughter for not wearing a hijab??i mean is he that stupid???…. in muslim 1 of the worst things u can posibaly do is kill sum1 so if he is sooo religious y wud he do dad???theres obiously sumthing else that she probaly did…that made her dad kill her
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y dun they talk bout ze mother
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rip axa… u were alwaz my friend:(…..n hot
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John Harp — Actually, polygamy has a long and extensive history in many cultures throughout the world. In fact, if you take in all of recorded human history it’s probably about as common has monogamy and much more so than polyandry (which is women taking multiple husbands at once).
Since when was Mohammed gay? I believe the Koran condemns homosexual activity, and the Prophet himself had four or five wives.
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The typical North American believes most Muslims are extremists. This conception is quickly changed once a person has traveled the world and realized people are pretty much the same everywhere. Heck, im Muslim and brought up in NA and at one point I even started believing the crap that everyone in my mosque was psycho!
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Jason reply on June 27th, 2008:
To be fair, most Muslims do live in Radicalized countries. Indonesia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan all have a stronger focus on religious identity than the sanctity of life, personal freedoms, and actual submission to God. The Islamic faith is an instrument of government control and power in these nations, and as such it’s an extension of the extremist legacy the West has grown to fear. Just because someone doesn’t actively support Al Qaeda with their money, pledges of eternal support or conversations in the local coffee shop, doesn’t mean they aren’t reasonably identified as both extremist and radicalized.
As to the psychosis of the members of your mosque, there are some very culturally adept and westernized mosques here in the united states that though they preach the submission to the will of God, understand that it is done as a free expression of one’s will over oneself.
Any Muslim outside of that image and belief will appear to be an Extremist.
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