Joseph Vincent Giongo
At around 7 in the evening on the 15th of December, 2007, 44-year-old Joseph Vincent Giongo started an argument with his wife, 42-year-old Bernadette Giongo, over her ordering of a takeout meal for their 7-year-old son.
Bernadette Giongo had decided to order the food for her son after he returned from a play that night. It was a special night, she felt, and the boy deserved something special.
Fair enough. She’s looking out for her boy. The Giongos were both unemployed, so she was probably going without something that she wanted so that her child can have something to remember a special night. A noble, selfless gesture that is typical of good mothers everywhere.
But this “flagrant” waste of money annoyed Joseph Giongo.
Because they were both unemployed, Mr. Giongo felt that ordering food for the boy when there was food in the house was a waste of money that they couldn’t afford. He stopped his wife from finishing the call, taking the phone from her hands and slamming it down.
Considering that Joseph Giongo had just been released on the 4th of December, 2007, after being committed to Norristown State Hospital for a psychological evaluation by family members who were concerned that he would kill them, at this point a weaker person would have backed down, capitulated and maybe just decided to make some macaroni and cheese for the boy or something.
On this subject, however, Bernadette Giongo stood her ground, and the argument continued.
For a short while.
The argument ended when Joseph Giongo began the laborious process of killing his wife.
The assault began with a punch to the face, which knocked Bernadette Giongo to the floor, in full view of their son.
She yelled at the boy to get the phone and call police, but Joseph was ready for that tactic, running over to the phone cord and ripping it from the wall.
The assault continued, with Joseph Giongo pummeling his wife mercilessly – hitting her, kicking her, grabbing her hair and slamming her head into things – all while their son watched, crying and begging his daddy to stop hurting mommy.
But daddy didn’t listen. Daddy told his son, “It has to happen.”
The boy attempted to run to the door to go and get some help, but Joseph Giongo outran the boy, reaching the door first and locking his son into the house.
Then he went back to the kitchen and continued the killing of his wife.
Sobbing, unable to go get help, the boy followed the sounds of fists impacting on flesh, returning to the kitchen to see his dad slam his mother’s head against the kitchen table, grab her hair and ram her body once more into the cabinetry around the sink, where she collapsed to the ground.
Moaning out to her boy, bleeding from cuts to the face cause by the fists of the man she loved, Bernadette Giongo quietly told her son, “I’m going to die. I love you.”
The boy ran to his mother, trying to block his father from doing any more damage, in a vain attempt to protect her life with his own.
Joseph Giongo pushed him aside and left the kitchen.
Crying and holding his mother, who told him over and over that she loved him, mother and son held each other for the few minutes it took for Joseph to return.
With his shoes on.
Pushing the boy out of the way, Joseph Giongo jumped up into the air, crashing down onto his wife’s body.
One of his feet landed on her stomach, and the other landed on her face.
A few stomps to the face later, and Joseph was done.
The boy stood and watched while dark red blood came pouring out of his dead mother’s face.
She didn’t move after that.
As his father cleaned up, the boy ran upstairs and hid in his room, staying there until his 18-year-old brother returned to the house the next day, Sunday, the 16th of December, at 2 in the afternoon.
As the 18-year-old walked up to the house, his father met him at the door. “I killed your mother,” he said, explaining that she “needed to die,” and that he was going to call the police and turn himself in.
The teenager, thinking that his dad was joking, walked into the house as Joseph Giongo walked out after hanging a plastic bag containing bloody sneakers and clothing on a kitchen drawer knob.
Understandably, the boy was slightly disturbed when he found his mother dead in a pool of blood on the floor. He called the police and held his little brother until they arrived.
Joseph Giongo walked and walked. He walked until half-past midnight, when he was seen by police walking down a street and arrested.
The two boys and their 10-year-old brother, who was spending the night at a friend’s house, are now staying with relatives.
Joseph Giongo has been charged with murder. He will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars.
His son will likely spend the rest of his life in therapy.
Does Joseph Vincent Giongo deserve Hell?
- Yes (90%, 468 Votes)
- No (10%, 52 Votes)
Total Voters: 520
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Those Happy Meals are expensive…
You don’t have to call in an order at McDonald’s. At least, not at any McDonald’s I’ve ever been to.
I bet it was Chinese food.
you have alot of fucking nerve to post shit like this. in fact, your a piece of shit journalist who should rot in hell; i think im gonna write a paper on you and post it on this site. you have absolutley no right to judge these people, they were good honest human beings and ur raunchy, terrible article on it is just a joke. walk a fucking mile in his shoes, then we’ll see whos talking about you in a shitty article. not only this, but this website should be shut down, and i will make it my goal to see that it does. Then, what are you going to be??? your going to be poor,and youll see how life really is. this was the shittiest article ive ever read, so go ahead and do evreyone a favor and kill yourself, cause not only are you a shitty human being, but also a terrible writer. ill pray for you, and i swear when you read this, you better say a fucking prayer for this family. asshole
I find it amusing that your name is unanimous when just about everybody disagrees with you and it’s very doubtful that you know the meaning of the word
Hahaha. I would have never found this if it weren’t for you which means I probably wouldn’t have nearly pissed myself laughing tonight! Thank-you, Anon!
Geeze…he sure has some anger issues.
Maybe a friend from Joseph’s Norristown State Hospital days…?
Yeah admin, what the fuck’s your problem? I’m sure Joseph was a good, honest man!
Except for whatever he did that made his family commit him to Norristown State Hospital for a psychological evaluation.And stomping his wifes brains out in front of their screaming 7 year old.
But if you look past those two, minor incidents, a good honest man!
*oh, takeout, I see it now..*
Nothing that Bernie did could have provoked what happened to her. This article is unnecessarily gruesome pointing out the horrendous act. It is inappropiate to imply that she could have avoided this. My family has been through enough. We appreciate all of the community support and prayers.
Gee, I knew unemployed people that wasted their money on clothes,cars etc. How extremely selfish of her to think of her son. Bad Bad!! With any luck Joe will be permently employed in state prison…. as a punching bag.
I as a family member of bernadette find this offensive, the story is told in a fashion in which it didn’t not happen, the few facts made public have been made into some sick and enjoyable story, the answer to your questions is Joseph was was sick from an accident and was influenced from this injury, and he would never wanted to hurt anybody.
perhaps something needs to be clarified here, we’re not enjoying these crimes at all (we do however enjoy condemning the criminals to hell, but that’s a different story)
Let’s just get to the basics of this shall we, did joseph beat his wife to death? i don’t really care if the details are correct or not, i really only care about two things: one, did he kill her, two, did her son see the whole thing?
from what i understand, the answer to both is yes and in that case, he deserves to be kicked to death himself.
If you are familly, which side of the familly are you from, hers or his? if you’re from his side of the familly and you try to defend his actions, you need to turn yourself in for some serious mental examination as well, if you are familly of hers, how can you possibly defend the person that beat a member of your familly to death?
I’m quite sure i’m talking to familly from his side of the familly though.
specially unanimous’ comment is typical, walk a fucking mile in his shoes? what, would that also excuse me from beating a woman to death? if that’s the case, i think i’ve been through enough hardship in my life to be able to get away with it according to your logic, would you mind flying over to my home so i can beat you to death?
Beating someone to death with your fists, while utilizing a variety of kitchen furniture to maximize the punishment, is gruesome.
Doing the same to your wife while your 7-year-old looks on is Hell-worthy, in our humble opinion.
The newspapers and online sources we’ve used have omitted a lot of the detail that the child related. While it may seem like gratuitous embellishment, the details are straight from the horse’s mouth, so to speak.
Joseph Giongo did beat his wife to death, he did use furniture to inflict injury, he did rip the phone out of the wall, he did prevent his son from leaving and summoning help, he did jump up in the air and stomp on her with his sneakers.
What exactly didn’t happen? Were you there? Please, let us know where we’ve been misled by who we thought was the only witness to the events – the 7-year-old who will now go through the rest of his life with these images stuck in his mind of his mother being slaughtered in front of his eyes.
And as for making it an enjoyable story – life would be a billion times more enjoyable without people like Joseph Giongo doing what he did. Unfortunately, in this world that we live in, there are hundreds, thousands, of people just like him running around.
I can’t believe there are people who are actually condonig what he did. You people are as sick as he is and really need some mental help.
Fucking mind boggling.
now, as a family member of bernadette, and I’m terribly sorry for your loss by the way, how can you say those things “it’s ok he was influenced by an injury and it was totally understandable that he killed her in front of one of the kids…that Joe is such a nut.”..he KILLED one of your kin. who cares how or why he did it,the point is, he did it, in front of another one of YOUR kin, probably screwing up the child for the rest of his life…I’m sorry but if it were me (being the relative of Bernadette) I would be out for blood…being unemployed and crazy from getting injured is Absolutley NO EXCUSE for his behavior..and I hope he gets the shit beat out of him in jail…sorry if this is preachy but …urrgh
He can’t be too far gone in the head if he had enough presence of mind not hurt the son, it was a focused attack.
And I do not care what “hardship” he has encountered in his life, NOTHING excuses this.
Joe should, and will be punished for the horrendous and heinous act he committed on his wife in front of his 7 year old son. Maybe even death himself.
However, for a site like this to take an incident from which you know only the reported details and turn it into something humerous or enjoyable is dispicable in it’s own right. And worse, to exploit the incident for money asking people to make donations to your site for more stories like this is deplorable.
The 7 year old son will forever have those horrendous images trapped in his mind for the rest of his life. The other 2 children will forever know that their father killed their mother. They will go on with their lives as best they can. But in an age where the internet is our top medium of information, the children, along with their friends will stumble across sites like this that make a joke out of it and that is just a shame.
Again, I am not condoning what ocurred. I am not stating Joe should be forgiven for what he did to his wife and children. But I can’t for the life of me understand why you would want to take this terrible incident and make it into something that you think would be enjoyable to other people.
@Bob,
There’s one compelling reason that (at least to me) makes sites like this important.
information.
Though we make a mockery out of a lot of these horrible crimes, we take the actual acts very seriously, this shows the public just how sick some people are. if the only thing this site acomplishes is vigilance, then i think it’s a job well done. not informing people about lunatics like this is a crime in itself and the fact that you don’t like it doesn’t change that.
I don’t care what fucking accident this idiotic piece of worthless shit had to go through NOTHING makes what he did ok. He was a jobless, dirty, layabout piece of trash and he topped it off by becoming a killer. Here’s hoping the death penalty is on the table…
If not, high five to any inmate that takes care of this scumbag in jail. If they get internet access in jail, and somehow stumble accross this, please kill him slowly.
@Bob
I don’t come here because I enjoy it, I come here because of a small amount of morbid curiosity and a larger thirst for knowledge. I am a mom and I feel that knowing what kind of monsters are out there helps me keep my kids safe.
sick or not what a piece of garbage. How sad for the wife and children. chose your partners wisely ladies.
Ok where do I start…hmmm. Yes it was a focused attack, maybe. Maybe the kid just got lucky and Joe’s fist started hurting. Maybe he didn’t go after the kid because the kid didn’t disobey.
He obviously was able to fall through the cracks…oh wait it’s called manipulation. If he was just out of the hospital less than 2 weeks before the attacks, he would’ve had to convinced the doctors that he was ok and he would’ve had to do a pretty good job. The next questions that follows is…was he released from the hospital or did the state funded insurance (which I assume their on because they’re unemployed) decided to stop paying the mental hospital bills and he was forced to leave. That happens to. I think a lot of these cases when someone who was given mental/medical help that the insurance company decides to stop paying (mind you mental hospitals are expensive. UCI in Cali is $2500 a day without insurance) and then this is the kind of stuff that happens. It makes you want to look at the dysfunctional healthcare system that us Americans have to put up with. That doesn’t include people who are uninsured who don’t get the treatment to prevent crimes like these.
Another thing…why the fuck would no one, not one single person, hear the yelling and crying and screaming coming from there house? Is this something that happened on a continuous basis and that no one thought anything of it before?
Ok that’s all I have for now. I was on a tangent but now I’ve lost my train of thought.
I do feel for the kid though. Hopefully he’ll get the treatment he deserves for the rest of his life.
That’s what happened to me.
I had developed severe depression around October of 1999. I refused to get help for so long and just allowed the pressure of school and social lives, etc to get me down.
In June 2003, my mom, who was also my best friend and my anchor, died suddenly and tragically. 6 months later, I had a nervous breakdown and was admitted to a psych hospital. Prior to that, after her death I qualified for and received survivor benefits plus medicare or medicaid, whatever. That’s what was paying for the stay.
I kind of liked it in that hospital. It was my little bubble where I didn’t have to worry about the outside world and though I knew I couldn’t stay forever, I did not want to go back to home. But I didn’t know where I could go. I had no idea.
So after about nine days, they threw me out. My aunt was visiting and she found out that the hospital was trying to kick me out. No explanation, no warning, just kicking me out. It wasn’t until my aunt fought with staff and demanded information that they found out medicare/caid stopped paying for my stay 2 days prior.
So not only were they trying to throw me out without any explanation or any consideration as to what arrangements I had made for where I’d go and what I’d do, they also tried to send me away without any kind of medication or prescriptions. Again, it wasn’t until my aunt fought and demanded that they do something that they gave us a prescription.
I was bawling. I was terrified. My aunt and I were driving away and my mind was somehow empty and racing at the same time. What could I do? I felt like that hospital was my last resort and when that didn’t work, I broke down. My aunt took me to this place in Austin, Psychiatric Emergency Services, to see what we could do for help and I lost it. I collapsed again and just cried and wailed. I could not even envision how to get TO tomorrow much less THROUGH it. I seriously just wanted to vanish and die.
Were it not for a massive case of deus ex machina in my cousin swooping in to my rescue, I don’t know that I’d be here. I feel like I’ve made a lot of progress in the five and a half years since, though I still have a long ways to go. Although, I do feel the whole situation with that psych hospital could’ve been handled better. They were supposed to help me, but in the end they tried to throw me aside. Had we known beforehand, we could’ve made arrangements, but the rug was metaphorically pulled from under us/me and it almost killed me.
I don’t profess to be an expert on health care or anything like that, but I do know things shouldn’t happen that way.
He deserves hell. The only thing that would mitigate it is if there was a pill he could have been taking that would have kept him sane, and through no fault of his own he couldn’t get it. In other words, if while in jail they give him this pill and all of a sudden he snaps back into normality and is broken over what he did. But it would be no less of a tragedy, and to let him off easy for being an insane killer disrespects the zillions of mentally ill people who choose to take their craziness out on themselves rather than the innocent.
but it’s the soceity we live in.
WHOOAAAAA!!!! I cannot believe people are accusing ADMIN of this site as being heartless and what the hell is up with all these people who want this site taken down? have these people ever heard of the constitution? how are you going to take down this site when it is not illegal u idiots?!!! My God, you see what happens when they start selling computers at Walmart? Now the whole internet is shot to shit… Now, back to the topic at hand… First and foremost, condolences to the family and friends as I am sure this is especially horrible for them during this time of year… 2nd I don’t care who this person was before he did this, the fact is that now, and forever he will be a murderer… if i flipped today and killed my family(or yours for that matter) it would not matter about all the great things I did, because I would be a murderer after that so save the pity party for people who actually care about these dregs who kill people… I hear there is a great canadian website that fights for murderer’s rights, maybe you guys should check that one out instead of coming here… ok im done…
It is really too bad that some people are not able to understand how sarcasm, irony, and disgust for POS people can co-exist in telling a story. It seems very clear in reading this thread that the admin was in no way implying that this mother or child could have prevented what happened. In fact, in their sarcasm, they point out that while many victims of longterm abuse are so tired of it that they just roll over, this mother did not, which is a healthy way to react. I doubt the implication was that if she’d been submissive that things would have turned out differently- my take was that it was reinforcing the fact that even when you do the right thing you can still be a victim if there’s a POS anywhere around. Because they are not healthy or logical.
I can understand that the people involved, their friends and family members, whether of the POS or their victims, might not want to read all the grimey details.
But the fact is that other people do. And on this website, at least, I’ve found it isn’t so much because other people just love gore and evilness- it’s because they understand how important it is to have other people read the horrible details.
Covering up any unpleasantness, or sweeping facts about different crimes under the carpet does not help anyone in society. If you are outraged, and you do in fact want these kind of sick events to stop, and want courts and the general population to stop downplaying how horrific these crimes are, then it seems like it would be worth it to post the details.
Getting all hush-hush about rape is a good example. While it’s not likely a rape victim or their family would relish having strangers know what happened to them, by not letting people know how bad it really is, it sends several messages to the rapists, the victims, and the society responsible for preventing them- that rape isn’t really all that bad, that it somehow is different and lesser than any other physical attack, and that the victim has a hand in what happened and should feel shamed and keep it quiet.
Knowing all the details helps people anticipate and protect themselves and their loved ones if they are ever in a similar situation.
While I am tired of the mental illness card being played, knowing details of this POS mental illness, and the way that multiple factors were involved in not keeping him away from his family are important. It’s important to find out if someone effed up, or if we need to change laws to prevent this from repeating.
The boy supposedly saw everything. Pretending that he did not, or that what he saw should be a secret, or that we are going to whitewash and time-jump from the second the POS began the argument to the safe point where his brother found him, does not serve this boy well, and certainly won’t help him deal with it or be mentally healthy. Admitting, accepting and preventing are key elements in reducing the effect things like this have on children.
Everything I’ve read on this site, whether or not you like the admin (or for that matter, my) tone or approach to it, has been geared towards disseminating info to educate, and to stop the current trend of going lightly on criminals and murderers, and to stop the practice of lightening the severity of facts because some people can’t stomach them. In order to stop the two current tangents of allowing criminals to claim to be victims, and to stop placing blame on victims for evil someone else should go to hell for, people do need the truth shoved in their faces. It’s not to hurt the families involved, it’s to prevent people from allowing it to happen again.
I see several important points in this story and how ugly it became.
The first is that obviously there are no checks and balances in place to keep obviously disturbed people away from people they intend to harm- longterm. Not just a few months. This needs to be dissected and FIXED. Same as how something needs to be done to stop the inevitable violence and murders that seem to happen immediately after someone has filed a restraining order. Obviously there are flaws in the restraining order process, since it sure doesn’t keep anyone safe.
The second is more subtle. Not sure how each state works, but here in California, years ago when I had called the police because my ex was acting bizarre and I was afraid of him and he refused to leave my house (which I had bought myself 15 years before I even met him), the officers who showed up told me that I could NOT make him leave, because even though legally it was my house, because we were married, it meant it was his house, too even though he was not on the deed, the title, and had not paid for it. He could only be removed AFTER he harmed me or our children. AFTER.
Maybe offending people enough to finally make some changes is the only way to go, because it doesn’t seem like making nice has helped victims much in the lsat how many years?
I don’t understand the blathering the first family whacko was going off about. Being poor? Having an injury or disability? I’ve been the kind of poor where you eat rice and beans for weeks because that’s all you’ve got. And, due to being hit by a car, I’ve been in chronic, constant daily pain for the last 20 years because of it. Yet, even though I can’t stand my abusive ex, it never ocurred to me to use him as a punching bag and trampoline while my children watched.
Nice try, though.
c
What in this article would lead ANYONE to believe that the author and any of his readers are finding humor in this situation? I read sarcasm and irony, but no humor. There is nothing, and I repeat Nothing, that gives someone a pass for committing such a brutal crime. I can assure you that if he goes through a trial that a jury won’t be overly concerned about how rough his life has been. Especially not when they see the evidence of the mind-numbing brutality of his actions. Instead of trying to drum up sympathy for this guy, why not focus your energy into making damn sure these kids get the emotional support and mental care that they will most assuredly need? Perhaps if this guy had had a support system in place, we wouldn’t be reading the “gruesome details” now. Clearly his family thought he was off the rails if he was committed. How was this guy not being monitored. Did everyone think that after a few days in treatment his mental state would magically become normal? How about an ounce of prevention? If you are family members close enough to be offended and outraged by the comments made by the admin and other readers on this site, then you are certainly close enough to make sure that these kids get the help that they need to ensure that history will not repeat itself.
ok this is my family your talking about andhe didnt beat her b/c they were unemployed…he was mentally sick so get your facts straight asshole.
Kidd,
I think we all got that he was mentally ill. I don’t think there is anyone here who was confused on that point. He’d have to be mentally ill. Does that make it any more acceptable? If you don’t know the answer to that, there’s no point in discussing this.
This and every article thats been posted has many things in it which are not true or not told correctly. Joseph Giongo was a a great father to the kids and loved them very much until about 2 years ago when he started having mental problems. I know the family very well and have been with them this whole time. Everybody is getting the wrong idea here the family knew he was sick and was just trying to make it past the holidays. He was never commited too the State Hospital either, after an evaluation the county building 50 released him and was said to be harmless. So with this terrible website maybe you can add the people who thought a sick man was harmless.
To Kidd and Friend-
I am going to guess that what you’re all up in arms about is that you don’t like hearing that some people think that people who’ve commited crimes like your family member/friend has, should be publicly judged as worthy of ‘going to hell’?
It might make you feel better to know that I’m pretty sure nobody on this website actually has the power to make that happen.
That said. There are people who have killed their spouses because they were mentally ill and angry at being unemployed. Your friend/family member supposedly killed their spouse because they were mentally ill and angry because the mother wanted to buy takeout food for their son.
The difference, please? Cause I’m not getting it. The mentally ill part, I get.
The ‘family and friends claim POS was a great husband and father up until about 2 years ago’, not so much.
I’m glad everyone was rooting for him to make it through the holidays, but not to worry, because he did. Maybe more people in the family, the courts, and in whatever institution he’d been in should have worried a little bit more whether or not his wife would make it through the holidays.
Lack of common sense in this case floors me. If so many people knew this guy was nutter for the last two years, why-oh-why was this guy in a home with a wife and 2 children? If it was that well-known, why were friends/family not able to have him involuntarily commited in order to keep the family safe?
I am not specifically blaming any of the family/friends (unless they were able to do something the last 2 years and just didn’t), but come on…. if so many people knew he was mentally ill and dangerous, how did this mother and her children fall through the cracks because a mentally ill person was allowed to be in their house?
That is what needs to be addressed.
c
as you can see, joseph giongo was a loved man and his family members and friends can prove that he was. mental disorders are a serious illness, and until you live with one, dont judge other people who may have them. i still protest that this article be taken down immediatley, and im sure that anyone who knew this man will agree with me
sorry littlemissunshine, i forgot we had a consituition, so go fuck urself..just expressing my rights :) oh and how did u knoq i shopped at walmart?
glory glory glory…you say it so much more detailed then I have the patience to…seriously though..I know you’ll agree there’s no point in these morons defending these murderers. Despite the fact that they seemed great in real life they still “brutially” killed people and this POS did it in front of his kid who’s mom was trying to reward him.
oh and unanimous; who are you to judge if we have or haven’t lived with someone with a mental illness. If we have, we’ve obviously been able to control or help the situation…afterall we’re still alive.
I’ve lived with a significant mental illness for most of my life and I STILL think this guy ought to get Dahmered in prison.
your family is in my prayer.
the thing is that there was never any real signs of any of this happening. Everyone thought he would take himself before any of the kids or Bern. He had his days that where normal you could say and that kept giving them hope.
i know the oldest brother personally. i didn’t know his parents but it doesn’t matter. this is a completely disrespectful and uncalled for article. there’s no room for judging here. yeah who wouldnt want to put their twocents in, but you have no right to. its none of your business. if you care at all, you can pray for this family. and joseph giongo.
instead of fucking crucifying people for a fucking tragedy maybe you should think twice about if it was your family. would you really like all these people saying shit about your dad? regardless what happened he’s still your dad and for the past 18 years you loved him no matter what was going on. just think that was the man that took you to your first Phillies game, that was the guy who got you that bike for Christmas, that was the guy who taught you how to drive. and now its absolutely breaking your heart to know what he did and that your never gonna see your mother again. He wasn’t a bad guy. he just wasn’t, it was unexpected for everyone regardless who you are. and personally i think I’m gonna see Joe in heaven. because i know I’m not the only one praying for him. and if anyones going to hell it’s the fucking asshole who can’t even get a real journalist job for a paper or magazine and writes these fucked up stories for people to read and comment on the internet. get a life… fucking loser. people are suffering. at least show a little bit of fucking heart.
Not sure what delusion you’re under but the savagely murderous beating/stomping/pummeling he gave the missus does NOT qualify him for a spot in “Paradise.” Pretty much the opposite, actually.
“Disrespectful and uncalled for”?
Are you being serious? It’s a little late in the game to ask any of us to respect someone who could do this, mental illness or not. Please don’t misunderstand me. I understand that psychological problems are real and unpredictible, but that still doesn’t give anyone the right to do what he did. This wasn’t a case of a couple getting into a heated argument, someone getting shoved and accidentally falling and hurting themselves. This attack took time. At some point one would think that as his child was covering his mother and begging his father to stop hurting her that something would have gotten through. He had the presence of mind to rip a phone out of the wall, stop mid-attack, put on shoes and come back to inflict the death blows and place all of the evidence in a trash bag. He also had the presence of mind not to hurt his son. If he was blacked out with rage or psychosis do you honestly think he wouldn’t have attacked everyone in sight? I don’t think anyone here will dispute the fact that he has psychological problems, but if that’s your arguement for why we should pity Mr.Giongo, I’m afraid that’s just not strong enough.
i didn’t say that anyone should pity him i just think people should realize that their family and friends are going to read this and its disrespectful to make a serious situation into some kind of fucking joke on the internet. and you guys are disrespectful and uncalled for. everyone knows what happened. it was on the news there is NO REASON AT ALL for an article like this and i can guarantee you have no argument at all when it comes to that. You’s are making money off of a tragedy and a families grief. don’t think you’re gonna win this argument because your not.
no ones asking for pity we’re asking for prayers.
i know that anyone who knows the Giongo family, knows the real story. reguardless of what people say i know the family was a good family. Stop with the negitive comments, you only know the facts that your told and i see why people are saying what their saying. but remember there is more then what meets the eye. understand these kids are having a hard enough time as it is,and to have news reporters and news crews in your face asking you question after question isn’t the right thing. infact it’s by far one of the most ignorant things. do you honestly think the best thing for the kids is to see their house on the computer, or even in the paper? it’s not at all. they need to live their lives without everyone seeing this in the news, and putting it in papers. anyone who uses this to make money is sick and twisted in which they deserve hell. so before you use someone else’s life as a headline to make money consider someone else’s feelings like the families.
Giongo Family your in my prayers <3
Rest In Heavnly Peace Berrnadette … I leave you with my footprints. You’ve touched so many hearts & will continue too.
“Rest In Heavnly Peace Berrnadette … I leave you with my
footprints”
You know that isn’t appropriate right? Considering he STOMPED on her…. Footprints…..I swear, if someone else says one more insensitive thing like that, I will pee my pants from laughing so damn hard!
“would you really like all these people saying shit about your dad?”
I wouldn’t care. If my Dad did something like this, I would have no problem writing him off and joining in on the shit talk.
Anyone who takes the life of another human being, especially in this heinous manner, is a scumbag and doesn’t deserve any sympathy.
I have a mental illness. Can I kill some of you?
listen “G”
you say all that shit now but if it happend to you i bet you would be thinking differently. And I don’t give a fuck who you are or what you have to say because it’s still not gonna change my mind about this bullshit. I’m sorry but it’s not. The way you’s find humor in this is really unbelievable. This affected alot of people. and i dont think any of you realize that.
especially from admin
“I bet it was Chinese food.”
this situation is so serious. and you just dont see it.
“And I don’t give a fuck who you are or what you have to say”
Yes you do. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t be here responding to all of us.
nah i care for the family and respect that this matter deserves… thats what i care about.
look this is my frnds family how bout all u people mind your fuckin buisness and let it be his dad was fucked up in the head and the last thing my frnd and his poor family need is your fucking opinions. Oh and for u jokesters im putting my vote in on you to go to fuckin hell!
No one is talking shit on the family, you morons – they’re talking about the douche who killed the mother of his child in cold blood. I can’t believe how many people are still justifying and condoning his actions.
r u people serious? this man kills his wife and ur fighting bout this artical. these r all his opinions and he has his right 2 say what he wants. but who cares the story is out and some one that was suppose 2 love her beat her 2 death in front of thier kid think about him not the crazy man that did this. this whole thing is nuts!
I hope all you whiners and murder apologists realize how much entertainment you’ve provided me.
The fact that first the POS was a model citizen, father of the year, and the best husband… except for the last two years. Well, and obviously while he was recently committed, not to mention one of his ‘bad’ days, which I’m wildly guessing the day he murdered his wife was one of.
At the same time, nobody but poor old you has ever dealt with anyone who was mentally ill, nor had depression or mental illness themselves. Just the friends and family of this POS. Nobody but you- I guess that makes you real special, and different from all the people that you’d be surprised to find out actually DO have experience with family and friends with mentla illness.
But, according to you, he really wasn’t that bad off. He had good days. In fact, in an amazing lack of sympathy, empathy and understanding, you didn’t think there was really any problem over the last two years, even though you simultaneously claim he did, which being committed almost always is a clue of…. but you thought he would KILL HIMSELF before he would kill his wife or children? It never occurred to you that you might have that wrong? Like maybe he’d kill his wife, then his children, and then himself? Are you such an expert at mental illness that you are actually claiming that people who are mentally ill never murder, they just commit suicide? The way you’ve written it, it doesn’t sound like you were too concerned about if/when he’d commit suicide anyway.My opinion of all the friends/family that have posted here is that they know nothing about mental illness, and might need to read up on it before they make fools of themselves on boards. I’d even go so far as to say it’s pretty clear that this POS did not have any REAL support, if they were so uneducated about mental illness. Or so unconcerned about what they could do.
It DOES make me laugh that you snivel about other people being rude, yet your misspelled, unpunctuated and poorly written posts are full of expletives. Isn’t that a bit rude?
But, the topper is that while you’re ranting and demanding that this site close because it does not say what YOU want it to- which is censorship, right? And then kvetch about how ‘we’ have a constitution and therefore you have the right to free speech? All without even being aware in the slightest that this is a BLOG, meaning that you are a guest here, same as me, and if Admin wanted to kick us all off and then write the nastiest things in the world, that’s HIS/HER right.
If you’re that concerned about your right to free speech, get your own blog, and fill it with whatever drivel you desire. The admin is brilliant for allowing you to rant here instead of kicking your ill-informed hiney to the curb, if just for how it ups the guffaw factor for the rest of us.
You’ll find you’re in good company here, as there are many other threads where loser women who’ve been battered their whole life get all wacko about us not judging her POS sex-buddy, because even though they raped and beat her children, we just don’t KNOW him, and therefore don’t have the right to express our opinions.
Hello? Can you not see all the funniosity of it all? Whether or not you think we shouldn’t make judgements about childkillers, rapists and murderers, the court system CAN. And every time one of those POS gets sentenced for their crimes, my little heart jumps for joy!
Bottom line is, if the POS dad had been safely straight-jacketed, and some other POS ‘mentally ill’ loser broke into that mother’s house and stomped her to death in front of her son, I think you would not be defending them, and you would not be nodding in agreement when their loser friends/families posted in a thread about that mother’s death about how he was such a great person/father/saint.
While you’re babbling about nonsense about ‘walking in someone else’s shoes’, you might try practicing what you preach, and put yourself in the shoes of the real victim. See how you like that.
Morans and Idjits, all of you.
c
I really get tired of people making excuses for criminal or violent behavior. Crying, oh they were abused as children, oh they are mentally ill, or oh they were drunk or high.
I DON’T CARE! Forgivness by myself or others does not relinquish the punishment.
They are two seperate issues.
An old cliche:
You do the CRIME you do the TIME.
Whether it be prison, looney bin or hell!
Praying for a killer doesn’t make him less of a killer.
The family members he left alive are victims too; but, their voices are squelched by do-gooders and “friends”. It amazes me how all these concerned friends have the twisted mentality to “google” the names of these people in order to find out information. How else would they trip across this site? I found it by word of mouth, but I cannot imagine how all these interested parties found it. If you were that close to the family then you do not need second hand reports, you know the whole story.
If it were my family or friends I wouldn’t be on a website defending them; I would be offering them my support in a more personal way.
More about this tragic story, including an address if you feel compelled to help the three sons:
http://www.nbc10.com/news/14891905/detail.html
hey “unaminous” … i think the word you were looking for is “anonymous” because “unaminous” only pertains to voting procedures when the aggreeance is “unaminous”(like the jury of 12 who will be convicting Mr. Giongo) so YOU can go fuck YOURSELF… i did not verbally attack you in any way and you go and gotta use a curse word ::shame shame:: …. ahh, i should have figured though as you are most certaily known by the company you keep… go back to school, get some hooked on phonics, and stop reading a website everyday that you “claim” to dislike and want taken down, geez, for someone that thinks this website is horrible you sure do spend enough time on here to read every single comment…. your probably a closet crime story lover, aren’t you?
im sure if a situation like this happened to any of you, you wouldnt want people talking about it like they really know what happened. i know the family personally and there all wonderful people who use prayer, love, and one another to get through this. no one needs your comments on their father, friend, uncle, cousion or anything like that. imagine what the kids are going through and you horrible people are spending hours of your day acting like you knew him and what that family has been going through. the kids dont deserve to have assholes like you stating your opnion. if you have anything to say about this it better be a prayer to God that they find peace this christmas and forever remember the wonderful memories they shared with their mother and father as they will never relive those moments only in their hearts.
-lilmisssunshine
“hey “unaminous†… i think the word you were looking for is “anonymous†because “unaminous†only pertains to voting procedures when the aggreeance is “unaminousâ€(like the jury of 12 who will be convicting Mr. Giongo)”
ha…haha…HAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
Sorry. But that was very witty.
It is sad that he was mentally ill. It is sad that maybe he didnt know what he was doing. But the facts are, he killed his wife in front of his kid. He beat the hell out of her, locked in son in the house, continued to beat her, left, and came back and stomped her to death. This site isnt poking fun at anything. Its just all very sad.
you really need to just mind you buisness if you don’t know about this family. for the sake of the children let it rest. keep your comments to yourself. you’ve never seen pain as bad as when you look into your bestfriends eyes and see how hurt he is. know the monster that that wasn’t their father that saturday night. and noone is justifying that what he did was right and noone is defending him. but the point were trying to get across here is you don’t understand the pain these people are going through and these comments make it no better. leave it as it is and let the family take care of it. it’s not up to you people who do not matter.
it still comes down to the health care that us americans are provided. there’s so many flaws and stuff it’s ridiculous. he obviously slipped through the cracks when he was released.
It is my understanding, that Joe was released due to our Country’s insurance policies…….the man was sick.and released because his insurance ran out……the family called the Doctor stating he ‘wasn’t ready to come home’ I’m sure, that when he realizes what he did, he will be devastated…….
Whoever wrote this is a fucking asshole and is the one who should rot in hell. What has the world come too when a good honest familys tragedy turns into entertainment. You wrote this like it was some sort of novel, trying to build suspense. Highlighting that he left and then came back with his shoes on in a suspenseful manner is sick. Saying that he did this with no convictions convinces me to believe that you have no idea what he went through, and makes me believe that if we took a vote on whether or not you went to hell, the votes would overwhelmingly say that you should suffer and burn in hell with satan.
Kevin,
Yes. this is a tragedy. No one is debating that point. But, this isn’t a case of a family menber getting killed in a car accident. The crime was perpetrated by a family member. I think it’s important to understand that no one is slandering the children or Mrs. Giongo. This discussion refers only to Mr. Giongo and his actions resulting in his wife’s brutal murder. Also, I can’t speak for all the readers here, but I come here in an effort to understand why people do these horrible things. As someone who has dealt with losing someone close to them to senseless violence, it’s difficult to forgive and forget. In my case, the guy responsible for what happened was nuttier than Chinese chicked salad. He had already been locked up for attacking his own sister with a hachet. He was a diagnosed schizophrenic who refused to take his meds and for that reason, even though he wasn’t in his right mind, he is still accountable for his actions.
you guys are a bunch of fucking dick heads. You dont know the giongo family at all your a bunch of fucking low life writers using your lack of talent on a worthless website. You all should burn in hell for the shit you posted. You seriously put this on here for your entertainment. It is a very sad issue for those who ACTUALLY KNOW the family, unlike you worthless peices of shit. Grow the fuck up and stop being so cold hearted
who ever wrote this story is fucking sick. the fact that a serious incident and tradgedy for certain folks should be turned into a sick twisted version of the truth for somebodys own personal aspirations is truely horrible. You sick fuck burn in hell
i hope this writer dies
sarah – im not asking you to respect him. im asking you to respect the privacy of this family, and the pain they’re going through.
you think people would have a little heart and consider that this man was mentally ill. no it doesn’t make what he did right. i didn’t even know him, but i myself still have the heart to forgive someone when they did something that was caused by an illness. and no ones making fucking excuses. sure he did what he did but the point is that if you were a good person and had any heart at all you would find it in you to forgive this man. its a horrible and tragic story, but anyone who can see past this are gonna be the people i see in heaven. along with joseph giongo.
-amanda
God, where do these people come from? I’m not thrilled that neo-nazi’s and Al-Qaeda have websites, but since I can’t get rid of them, I don’t visit them. It seems to me that some of these folkd are spending quite a lot of time on a site that is sick and twisted.
amanda-
I get what you’re saying although I don’t understand why you would think I’m a bad person and have no heart simply because I want to see the guy face the consequences of his actions. I’m not in a position to judge the state of his soul. There is only one ultimate judge in that regard. But, for the sake of our society folks like these have to separated from the general population. The fact that he is mentally ill has been dually noted, but it remains that he did a horrible thing and there have to be reprecussions and reparations. Bottom line, if he can’t be sucessfully monitored or treated on the outside, he needs to be locked up for the protection of his community as a whole.
Also, for the record, everyone thought Dennis Rader was a fine individual. A church-going man, a good father and husband and he turned out to be a vicious serial killer. People aren’t always who we perceive them to be.
Friend- (and all the quackos it appears you’ve led to this site)
Please inform me as to what exactly is incorrect in not only the story as presented here by the admin, but news stories of this reported on other websites and on tv.
Which things are lies, and did not happen.
Did the father beat the mother up on their furniture? Did she hold her 7 year old son, tell him that she was going to die, and that she loved him? Did the father returned after having put on a pair of shoes in order to do more damage (speaks volumes about how ‘crazy’ a person could really be if they purposefully did that), yanking the child away? Locking the child in, ripping the phone from his hands when he tried to do as all children are taught- call 911 when your daddy is murdering your mommy? Did he, or did he not, after ‘shoeing up’, proceed to stomp on both her head and chest, while she was telling her son that she loved him? Did he then leave the boy alone in the house with his mother, who by then had her head floating in a pool of blood? When the older son returned home, did he greet him with the words, ‘I killed your mother’?
Which of these things are lies, and did not happen, as my understanding is that the mother is dead, and therefore could not tell the story herself, so LE relied on statements from the two sons? Are you saying they lied about what happened?
Or, is all your whining and blathering simply because you dont like the fact that other people think this POS is, in fact, a POS? Is that really your only gripe?
It is very convenient, the way people use the term ‘mentally ill’ to mean many things… such as ‘openly violent’.
I’m not too sure about your idea that this POS should be forgiven and prayed for, because, poor thing, he was so mentally ill and all. Mentally ill meaning violent and murderous. Not crazy or insane. Get that? Not crazy or insane.
Crazy or insane would mean he wouldn’t have been able to think to put shoes on to cause more damage. Not locking the boy in- that would mean he knew the boy could get help and stop the murder. Not ripping the phone away when the boy tried to call 911- because that would mean he knew the boy could get help and stop the murder.
Not greeting his older son at the door with “I’ve killed your mother”, instead of what a real crazy/insane person would have said, which is “Yabba dabba do”, or, “Watch out for the centipedes”. What he said shows he was aware of what had happened, and that he was the murderer.
A crazy/insane person might then have proceeded to make pancakes for everyone, instead of doing what almost all non-crazy murderers do, which is to leave the scene of the crime before LE gets there.
The fact that he beat the shit out of his wife in a brutal way, in front of their child is not proof that he is ‘mentally ill’, it’s proof that he is selfish and violent, which surprise, suprise, all other non-mentally ill murderers are as well.
Nobody is attacking the poor children that this POS left motherless. So no need to bitch about respecting their privacy.
This is our business. All of ours. It is our business as a society to get involved, be busy-bodies, report violent people and get them commited permanently before they have a chance to kill their families or someone else’s. It is our business to push for convictions, or the death penalty, or whatever else we, collectively as a society think should be done about POS like this.
It IS our business.
And, while I wish the children well, and hope they are able to be helped by many people, like they were not helped before this happened, I have no intention of ever praying for the POS.
I don’t pray. But for people who do, I would suggest that they pray for the poor mother.
But that would be kind of stupid of me, because her POS husband trampled her body and killed her, so she’s dead, and no prayers can help her now.
Hope? Yes, I hope the children’s lives can rise above this crime. And I can hope that this POS is not allowed to get some light sentence by claiming mental illness, and I hope, in fact, that he gets the death penalty and is killed soon so that those children can put this crime and his sorry ass behind them.
c
GloryBug, thank you for your continual logic and wise words. unfortunately I think you are wasting your time. You know, those “hours on end” that you spend on this site ;)
G-
And likewise, I appreciate your ability to be succinct and blunt. I obviously do not have those capabilities.
I understand why it would appear that I spend hours here. I do work online from home long hours, and odd hours. But the truth is that when I get the chance, I hop between here and the many news, boards and blog sites that I enjoy following.
It may be a bad thing that I type so fast. I’m sure often I’m typing faster than I’m thinking, and it shows.
I don’t actually really get angry at any of the forum posters here. I do get angry at the POSs criminals profiled. I don’t think I ever consider that I’ll actually change anyone’s mind… it’s more that it is a very good exercise for me to clarify my own opinions and thoughts about all these things.
What I enjoy more than posting here is getting to read incredibly smart, sarcastic and insightful writing by the admin, and the fairly dependable, clever and truthful comments made by a lot of the ‘regulars’.
Being able to literally laugh out loud at those comments takes a lot of the sting out of reading the details of whatever today’s POS has done.
I also enjoy it when people use cuss words appropriately, as you have done, rather than people who just cuss because they can’t think of what to say. Purposeful cussing is a very useful thing!
c
I have known Joe Giongo for the last 15 years. I worked with him. Yes thats right he had a job and he was one of the hardest workers I have ever seen. He and he alone supported the family.
He was a nice and gentle, man who loved his family. He tried to get help for himself at least 3 times over the last 2 years. Mental illness is something we will never truly understand, hopefully he will get the help he needs and we all need to pray for him and both families.
well glorybug i hope you didnt waste your hole day writing that. and for your understanding the boys do not want to forget their father. they loved him and still love him very much. they understand that it was not their father that did that but but the illness that had taken over his actions. and it is NOT your business to be spending hours of your time talking about a man that never existed in your life. thank you you “POS”
yeah ok. the illness. just like the drugs in other cases. he still did it. he was in control of his actions. plain and simple.
I think the real POS’ in these cases are not only the people who commit the crime but also those who fucking defend them.
Oh well then… if he was employed and supported his family at one time then yeah… good guy there.
Hey Buddy.
Everyone that kills someone was a good person at one point. They aren’t murderers until AFTER they kill. See how this works?
You may remember a guy that you liked but he’s gone dude. He was gone a loooong time ago.
The guy we’re talking about killed his friggin wife.
Douche.
-Cy
in front of his kid
I’m sorry again but to those people who are still pulling the “mental illness” and “Fuck you guys I’m family and I don’t care. What if it was your family? hurerrrr..” arguments….but…’twere it my family, that fucker would be dead…
the end :3
Disaster-
How right you are. If the person who had stomped this mother to death in front of her child had been a complete stranger with a mental disorder, I doubt the family and friends of this POS would be squacking about how the stranger didn’t do it, his ‘mental illness did’. In fact, I’m going to guess that if some other person with the ‘mental illness’ excuse had done it, they would be clammoring for their arrest and punishment.
Whenever I read someone defending a friend or family member who has commited a crime, because of their ‘mental illness’, in the back of my head, I KNOW that those same people would not be supportive of other criminals who killed/raped/molested other people or children, who claim ‘mental illness’.
If you are going to play the ‘mental illness’ card, you’d better be willing to defend and support EVERY other criminal who plays that card, too. Because the chance that YOUR POS is the only one who really is mentally ill, and all those other people are just sick fucks is pretty slim.
Brittany- yeah… drugs, guns, mental illness, alcoholism, twinkies (remember that one?), ADHD meds….. nobody is to blame for anything anymore.
Friend-
“they understand that it was not their father that did that but but the illness that had taken over his actions. and it is NOT your business to be spending hours of your time talking about a man that never existed in your life. thank you you “POS—
I’m guessing that the children really don’t understand, then, because their father most certainly DID do it. It seems like the whole family, as well as all the friends needs to get educated about mental disorders, because nothing they’ve written here sounds like they have a clue about it. Mentally disordered does not mean you are two different people. You are just a mentally disordered person, and if you really love that person then you need to come to terms with that, as well as the fact that he is, and always was the same person who did this.
What I find bizarre from reading all the defender’s posts. is that not one of them mentions or addresses what the mother experienced, nor have they mentioned her death as being any loss. They also do not say anything about how horrific it would be for any child to witness that being done in front of them.
All they talk about is what a great guy he was, how HE didn’t actually do it, how nobody should make any judgements about a pretty freakish and violent event, and how they and the children just really love him.
Not one person is devastated that the mother was murdered? Of how the loss of HER has devastated them? How much mental help these children are going to need to deal with the loss of their mother at their father’s hands? No.
Did anyone even love the mother? Or are they all too busy loving the murderer and making excuses for him?
Friend, it might interest you to know that YES, it is my business to write about these things here. Pretty sure that was the reason admin created this blog. Your case is just one of a multitude of similar cases on this site, so it’s not really as personal or ‘all about’ this POS as you’d like to think.
But, with that attitude, I suggest you show up in court and tell the judge and jurors that they should just drop the case, because they have no business discussing a man they’d never met before.
Please, I’m all ears. How many hours should I REALLY be spending on this blog? If I spend 5 minutes responding to your comment before I read about some other cases, or go to another website that interests me, is that 5 minutes too much?
I’m sorry you don’t like how I spend the tiny amount of time that you know about. Some people sit around and jack off all day long. Do you also have ideas about how much they should be doing that? Get over yourself. Your contributions and my contributions are just a drop in the bucket within this website, and nothing to get your panties in a twist about. Wonder why I don’t care much at all how much time you spend here? You don’t even like the site. At least I spend my time on sites that I like.
go figure.
c
Glory–
Twinkies? I must’ve missed that one. Explain.
If a person with mental illness in my family killed another family member, I would in no way support them or say “oh no but it wasn’t really him it was the illness…”
He viciously beat his wife to death in front of his child.
If my father did that to my mother, even if he had a mental illness, I would never again want him in my life. I would condemn him just like the general public obviously would. I would want him dead.
Ah Glory,
The ol’ Twinkie defense. One of my personal favorites. “I was not responsible for my actions because of all the preservatives in the crap ton of Twinkies I eat” A classic! Much more creative than simple mental illness. The “I’m crazy” defense is a little played out, don’t you agree?
G-Bug–
Go Fuck yourself and your your kind. You run on about mental illness and have no clue or basis in fact as to what you say. I have found no less than 40 nonsensical yammerings out of your useless ass. do you have a family or is writing about others peoples tradgedy all you have…dick weed
Also—how many twinkies have you had. Rumor from those who are in the know on this site say you have a ” Little’ problem with overconsumpstion of twinkies, so being a fellow blogger I wanted to help you out. Stop eating you big fat piece of shit, or you just may experience the mental disorder you pan about. I would hate to see you have the “twinky defense”, But from what I understand they might not be able to fit your fat ass in a court room.
As for your knowledge…you leave all to be desired. You are a typical verbose asshole who thinks her opinion is factual reasoning. If anything you should be seeing someone for…. let’s say Narcissistic personality disorder. I am willing to help you. Please email me back so I can refer you to one of the many experts on my staff.
Your in Mental Health…Happy New Year!
J
Sarah
I feel so sorry for you like G-BUG. Some advice…GET A FUCKIN LIFE!
Have a great New Year!
J
Strong words coming from the hands of Justice. You’re more of a fuck tard then most of the illiterate numb nuts on this site.
Justice hmmm, justice goes with laws, and there’s laws that state freedom of speech. think about it.
and that’s all I have to say about that.
Thank…Gump….read your words over three times( I was expressing my freedom of speeech..tard
I didn’t say you weren’t. Just don’t expect us not to and that’s what it sounds like.
After all we’re bashing on the fuck head Joe who is a POS, not each other. DUH
This site is a piss. You folks are so fuckin sorry. You spend your life writing about others woes.
I extend all here an invitation to the leather sofa in my den. This is a free service becaue you are all so sorry.
I hope you all have a great new year and please try to get a life..it’s never too late
right since you have one….you’re hear condemming us for chilling.
Hell I work. I’m not sorry. I make a shit load of money for being only 20. Hell I’m at work right now. I sit on my ass all day and do nothing and get paid for it. I don’t think it’s sorry. I think it’s more creative.
Exactly my point miss Spears….You choose to keep picking on Joe and I have a particular liking for picking on lowlifes like you who visit sites like this!
Go back to rehab Brittney
Love,
J
You just described to me what sopunds like a waste of a life…I would be willing to help you. Thie is more to life than sitting around and taking french fry orders
Goodness, Justice!
Maybe you and Mr. Giongo should look into a group rate at the nearest mental health facility.
It’s also worth mentioning that no one said anything rude or abusive to or about you to start with. We were simply commenting on a story that is in the news for anyone to read. I’m sorry you feel as though these are personal attacks. However, as you don’t know me and I’m not in the news for having murdered anyone in my family, maybe you could refrain from the profanity and insults since I afforded you that respect.
Happy New Year to you , too!
Justice- Wonder what got your panties all in a twist?
You obviously have no clue what the ‘twinkie defense’ is. Google it. Contrary to what you ‘think’ you’ve read on this blog, it has nothing to do with me. Mostly because I have never killed someone because of eating Twinkies, because they are gross crap and they are not vegetarian. Not sure how your huge intellect ‘figured’ out from reading this blog that I am a fat slob who sits on my fat ass eating all day, and can’t fit in a chair?
I would guess that being 5ft6 and 115pounds is fat to you? And what was your point, really? You hate so-called ‘fat’ people, but don’t hate abusers/molestors/murderers? Last time I heard, it wasn’t a crime to like eating well. Morality isn’t based on size, and for someone who doesn’t like how judgemental you think others are, you are a fine one to talk.
Smoke some more crack, and get back to me on that one. I’ll decline the invitation to your leather chair, first off because I am vegetarian, and that is gross to me, and secondly because I’m not fond of psychotic people attempting to counsel sane people.
c
Justice…what kind of french fry order job allows computer access? Um and rehab is for people who have serious drug issues.
I only smoke weed.
Ocasionaly.
See that’s not a drug issue to need rehab.
Oh and contrary to your beliefs, I work in sales.
Sounds like I got my shit together huh?
Let’s recap:
20 years old (21 in two weeks)
I work M-F 8-5 (usually)
I pay for my car, insurance, cell phone, gas (90 miles to and from work) and rent, and well as mentioned a little bit of weed on ocasion
I’ve been at this company for 2.5 years and make almost double min wage
So I’d say that I’m not a fat ass either and I don’t ask “Do you want fries with that?”
I think it’s safe to assume I’ve got my shit together unlike an umemployed fuck who decides to stampeed on his wife’s head.
Gbug( can you hear the sound of the cucumber cry when you bite into it?–disgusting) Sarah( Sorry Sarah) and Ms. Spears( Can I have double minimum wage with that?).
One comment on your dolt like comments.
Go Fuck off. I love this site…Huge losers like you three expouse like fuckin Dr. Kildare and you have the understanding of issues like a Gnat on a flys ass. Continue on. This is sheer enjoyment
Justice- Your cleverishness and originality confounds me!
The cucumber is crying, you say? That’s it- I shall immediately cease and desist from being a vegetarian, because I have never heard the
‘But plants feel pain and cry, too, so you better start eating bloody flesh parts of animals, you hypocrit’ idea a million times before your genious brain cranked that out. Crank being the key word there.
Brittany- I am against pot-smoking, but only because it is illegal. As someone who suffers from multiple medical issues that cause constant chronic pain, I’d love to be able to smoke pot to alleviate it. My experience with potheads (such as my ex and boy’s father) is that they say they smoke recreationally, but it looks more to me like they smoke as escapism, which I’m not fond of. Do I think it should be illegal? No. It’s a plant, no different than food plants, that has certain qualities that make it palatable and useful for humans and other animals.
It is as relaxing for some people as eating a carton of ice cream. (and in fact, those two things often go together!). People can abuse pot… but they can abuse potato chips as well.
Off-topic, I know, but you brought it up. The amount of clear benefit pot has for people in pain, who have glaucoma, have immune disorders or cancer, obviously outweigh the detriment of having some other people smoking out, eating snacks, and endleslly zoning out.
IMO. the only reason it is not legal now is because big Pharm hasn’t figured out how to corner the market on it, control it, and make a profit from it.
Potheads rarely commit violent crimes (because usually they are too stoned to exert the effort), and rarely cause car accidents (except those caused by driving too slow). People who smoke pot rarely use it as a ‘stepping stone’ drug, since the kind of people who like the mellow feeling of pot usually don’t like the effects of hardcore drugs.
How do I know all this? Because I used to smoke pot when I was 16-17, before I was adult enough to care that it was illegal, and before I had children I needed to set an example for. If it was not illegal, I would be first in line to get some lovely pain relief.
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fair enough glory! However even though it’s on occasion, I do go to work and function. I don’t kill people. When I get the munchies I go to places like Souplantation (for those of you who don’t know it’s a salad bar buffet all healthy stuff). rarely do I munch on ice cream and potato chips, I usually crave fruits. However on occasion I like going to Hooters…for the wings ofcourse.
It’s not a stepping stone in my eyes. I used the hardcore stuff years ago and have not gone back for 3.5 years.
Needless to say I’m pretty responsible, I don’t ask if you want fries with that, and I don’t kill people or rape babies.
Wow! So you both inhale, I knew it! That makes me understand the lack of intellectual basis in any of your scattered brain musings and BS…
Thanks!
Have a great New year!
p.s. G-bug I am concerned you run on so long– like you have been sucking on a joint or something bigger. Keep it going ,it is extremely enjoyable!! ttfn
ms. Spears—
no, you do not kill babies or harm small animals. But you have absolutley made yourself look like an ass and a dimwit with that last comment…LOLOLOL keep’em coming
Happy New year
Luv,
me
p.s. get a life
Justice- if your crack-addled brain wasn’t so messed up you would have read that I have not smoked pot in almost 30 years. I have an ‘ex’, because they would not stop smoking pot for fun- among other things.
It’s off topic, but proof that you cannot read or comprehend other people’s writings. I write long posts because it is easy for me. I both speedread and speedwrite. What I lack in mathmetical skills I make up for in literary skills.
The most chronic abuser of drugs would make more sense in their comments than you do.
And Brittany is right… people who smoke pot are less likely (than disturbed people like you) to abuse, molest or kill other people.
Maybe if this POS had smoked a joint and eaten a bag of tater tots instead of stomping his wife to death, I wouldn’t have the displeasure of having to read your nonsensical comments here.
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G-Bug:
Keep going…you cannot not stop yourself…Please reread your posting then see ” Personality disorder’ It is all about you, isn’t it?. I feel sorry for you. This blog seems to be all you have. I will stop now…I do not want to ruin your life’s passion.
Please just remember the otherside of things. I say this from a macro, more metaphysical perspective. Sometimes think just a little longer before you act (just as these folks acted rashly)and write. Think not about how crafty you will be in further denegrating a person or family at the bottom , but, think about the family members left behind, who happen upon this dreadful site and read what you write for “Fun”. Think about the way you might impact a greiving family member at the worst possible time, a sister, a brother, an aunt, an uncle and 3 remaiing Sons. Think.
Compassion, I think, that is the proper word. Try in your heart of hearts to remember the impact of your written words. Think about it.
Have a great New year…
P.S. Also, if you fancy yourself a good writer, I can refer you to several sites that are a much more reputable. You may even be able to help greiving families with some of your expertise. Have a positive impact in someone’s life.
wow. u guys are very entertaining. I forgot what you all were even supposed to be talking about by the time I finished reading your comments. But I must admit I kept reading to the end so shame on me. oh glory is a good writer by the way. gotta go already feel like a loser…
ha ha kbeat. it’s entertainment. I don’t know why people get their asses in the sand about the stuff.
hey admin go fuck yourself you peice of shit
I am aquainted with this family.I have known the grandmother of the boys and some of her children. They are the biggest-hearted, kindest people you could ever dream to meet. I do not know all the details of this tragedy other than what the papers printed, but they are a family all about love and forgiveness. This site is using their tragedy to make money – plain and simple.
For those of you who attack the family for not condemning his actions, he was a man with three kids who was with his wife at least 18 years. They knew him well. They also knew something wasn’t quite right. I am sure they are sad that Bernadette is no longer with them, but they also know she is in heaven and not feeling pain anymore. They are trying to pick up the peices and do what is best for her sons now. They have a long hard road ahead of them and I for one pray that the angels are sent to guard and protect that family. God Bless You.
As for the people that are trying to make money on this, you market background checks. If a person had never committed a crime (or got caught for one) they will have a clean background check. Your using this article to scare people into buying a background check is wrong on multiple levels. There are multiple Bible verses that tell us to not be afraid. One verse seemed appropriate to me for this site:
“Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Matthew 10:28
admin – So the bible is against background checks? Convenient, since so many killers and rapists and so on are such devout Christians when they’re caught..
Oh, Lordy. Another bible-quoter.
For some reason the bible-whackers always get my knickers in a twist, because they are so presumptious…. as if NOBODY else in the world has ever read the bible as much as they have.
But- thank you for that quote. It’s changed my life! I now am all about forgiveness and compassion for people who brutally beat, crush and murder their spouses in front of their children.
Since reading that quote, I have no need to ever lock a door again! Or kick anyone to the curb who appears they might at some future date be abusive. Because yeah, they can hurt, torture and kill me- but not my soul!
I don’t really need to try to protect my children anymore, either. Well, only against ‘satan’, right?
I really have a hard time understanding WHAT the bible thumpers points are on a blog that is about crime and law. Unless they are just so easily distracted by the sarcastic use of the word ‘hell’ in the website’s title, that they get blinded?
Please, someone inform me of who exactly is making so much money off this man brutally murdering his wife in front of his child? I know for a fact that I haven’t spent a dime on this site or on any of it’s sponsors. I’m sort of a freeloader that way.
Blush.
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G-Bug-
You blow along with admin.
F%$$ you and your families…whom I am sure will be in hell with you… you f%%#$ing sick creeps.
Compassion: look it up assholes
You are worse than admin…you come here to pontificate on others woes. What tragedy has visited your worthless life??? You should let us know so we can write a nice compassionate heartfelt condolence to you nimrod.
I heard from people on this blog that your husband left you because you were abusive and he feared for his safety . Is this true? Do you have children in your house under this pretense? You should get help before it is to late…
you mentioned you had children. I hope you share with them someday what a heartless POS you were to a family that is trying to deal with a true tragedy. I am sure they will be very proud of you MOM? You make me laugh scum…Hypocrite
admin – I put all your comments into one post. No need to make three stupid comments when one will do.
I have a lot of compassion. . . FOR THE VICTIMS!!! Yes, I said victims (plural). That poor little boy is going to be scarred for life.
I also want to point out to everyone that the family posting here are victims too. They are in denial it seems to me. I would be too.
I would also like to point out that if we all have it so wrong, someone could step up and tell us what we are wrong about. Seems pretty straight forward to me. He beat her to death in front of their child.
Such vehement defense on this man’s behalf baffles me. Why wasn’t all of this indignation and effort put to use before this tragedy happened? Red flags are usually raised when a friend or family member seems “not right” or has been recently sent to a mental health facility to be “evaluated”. Strong words and actions from the family/friends of Mr. Giongo could have saved this woman’s life. Is it easier to chastise and insult strangers for their opinions than to have used your voice to force him to face his problems and get help? My family has been dealing with a seriously mentally ill family member for as long as I have been alive. We know it is our responsibility, because we love him, to make sure we are alert to actions and behaviors that could be harmful. It is alot wiser to be vigilant now instead of defensive later.
Hey, Justice, you forgot one thing…Glory didn’t kill HER kids!! Give me a break. Compassion for this worthless piece of trash?!? Where is the compassion for his wife who he beat to death in front of her little boy? You make me sick. I have NO compassion whatsoever for this guy. NONE. And…all the Bible thumping will not ever change my mind. Another thing, if it was my brother, father, uncle, etc. I would still want him put away for a long, long time. No compassion. Sorry if that makes me evil.
Justice- I know it annoys you greatly that having a honed sense of sarcasm allows me to process and deal with what otherwise would not be information I could deal with… ie- abusers, murderers, etc.
But I do have to thank you for this jewel-
“F%$$ you and your families…whom I am sure will be in hell with you… you f%%#$ing sick creeps.
Compassion: look it up assholes”.
Definitely a ‘LOL’ moment. Anyone is allowed to say anything they want on the internet. Hopefully you’ve been amused by whatever people might have said to you about me on this site. I’m going to guess that my ex wouldn’t be amused by claims that he left due to fear of me, as he has quite an ego, and is 6ft3, 200lbs vs my 5ft6, 115lbs. I have never claimed there was any physical abuse between myself and my ex. I have stated that I did feel the need to stop him from physically over-disciplining our children.
If anyone who knew me or my ex in real life were actually on this site, they would be stating the truth, which is that my ex left after I got fed up with finding illegal drugs in our home, the last time… taped underneath our children’s bathroom sink.
Other than my statements that I believe offenders should be allowed to commit suicide, I think anyone would be hard-pressed to find any comments by me on this site or anywhere else extolling the use of any violence against anyone. I do believe in the death-penalty when proper requirements are met. Dislike me, if you must, but don’t claim that I have any interest in this site other than that it is SO very anti-abusers/murderers/pedos and REAL violence.
And, yes, in real life, I do have children. In fact, my oldest is allowed sometimes to read people’s comments here. He finds the inability of some people to write coherently rather funny. He also finds some of the strange things people say about me even funnier. I pick them up from school in an hour. Maybe I’ll let him read what you’ve said about me, him and his brother, and my ex. I might even let him post a reply. Because that’s the kind of crappy, liberal, hell-bound mother I am.
He thought it was funny the other day when some woman chastised me for ‘allowing’ my children to know what certain words meant. He laughed, as he claims ALL the children at school hear those words. He seems to like that he can ask me about them. I asked him, ‘what do you think happens to children whose parents refuse to talk to them about certain words or subjects?’. His answer? ‘They end up being drug-users’.
So there.
Kim- thank you so much for the back-up. You’re right… I haven’t actually killed any children- my own or anyone else’s. I guess that puts me ahead of the game on this site. Wink.
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Sure, Glory, no problem. People like that just piss me off. hahhaha. I’m ahead of the game right with ya, to other’s consternation I am sure. I have pissed off a few people, but I really don’t give a rat’s ***hole. See, I bleeped out the ass part so I don’t go to Hell. :)
OMG, that is scary! It almost makes you not want to get married! Haha. How were they getting money if they didn’t have jobs? Let me guess, government money?!?! Haha. This guy seriously looks like a nut case. Man, he looks scary, I would never marry something that looked like him.
Poor kid probably will have a lot of problems. I pray for him (I rarely pray for others but I will for this little boy.) =0( It is sad that he had to see something like this go on!
This isn’t a photograph from J.C. Pennys photo studio, it’s his mugshot after just killing his wife. What do you expect him to look like? As for work, he has been the sole provider for his family from the time his oldest child was born. He was a very hard working man that worked double shifts. I know because he was a coworker of mine for many years. He loved and adored his children. He loved his wife and never complained about working so hard. I know that this was the most unforunate thing that could ever happen. I know that he was a loving father and husband. I know that mental illness is very real. He didn’t start off losing his mind but he did. Despite what anyone has to say about Joe Giongo myself and many of his former co-workers included know that Joe Giongo was a good man.
government money, government cheese.
sorry gov’ment cheese
G-Bug, Admin.—and the rest of the dodge ball team.
Let me repost since your comprehension skills leave oh so much to be desired. This room is so fuckin dense no one even addressed my point. This was not unexpected though(LOL). The compassion I ask you consider is for the remainder of the family, children, etc., not for the murderer.
Admin.—-You have a great job here! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL…get a life…LOLOLO…Keep going loser. You are in the perfect Job for life. Please stay here. Do the real world a favor!
admin – You forgot the last L. So basically, you said, “laugh out loud laugh out loud laugh out.” This is against the rules of the Internet.
G-Bug—I do not need an explanation of your sorry trailer park life description of drugs, drug abuse, physical violence and debauchery, but once again you felt compelled to reveal all of your sorry life to complete unknowns on the internet(LOL) This is very humorus and very sad at the same time. But as they say comedy and tragedy are very closely associated, as it sounds you are well aware.
Please enjoy the reread and give me your thoughts on the central point this time(Lmao)–this is getting to fun!).
Best,
J
admin – Oh wait. No.
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Admin—your alright…thnaks for cleaning it up. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL.
Nice to see the troll at work. Sorry this man beat his wife to death in front of his children, I have no symapthy or compassion for him, only for the children left behind. As for your personal attacks Justice, you’re just another one of those pathetic people that can talk big on the net but would be a silent coward in real life.
thnaks – ha ha ha
K-dogg I shit bigger than you…coward. Hike up your skirt pussy.
No personal attacks here, only giving what I’m getting—LOL
I just like jousting with you all. My opinion— I really think you all are pathetic, so this is good entertainment for me. Breaks up my hectic schedule.
By the way tell glory bug—I am sorry she has Fibromyalgesia. This is only the 5th time?.. I have gotten personal info from her over the internet. Just crazy and frightening for her children and abusive drug laden husband. Please! somebody refer her to a reputable dating and phsyc eval. site. A sure cry for attention if I have ever seen one.
I am with you G-Bug…Hang in there.
Have a great morning Dregs of Humanity!!!
Best,as always,
J
P.S.
Good to see you back Ms. Spears
Talk about poor reading comprehension! WHEW!
I said I had compassion for his family too because they are victim’s of his actions as well.
SO you got what you wanted. One person that sort of agrees with you.
Now shouldn’t you be helping some of the survivors of this terrible tragedy rather than trolling an internet message site?
I understand that in some cases anger may be an essential part of coming to terms with an event like this, but you need to examine your actions and where you are devoting your energy. You need to take the anger and use it for energy to help whom you can that has been effected by this. Not sit here and argue with a bunch of strangers.
I know that I am probably pissing you off some more by saying this, but just ask yourself if it is true and if there is something you can do for someone else that NEEDS you right now.
Best Wishes for Speedy Healing,
Bad
It seem g-bug only has life on the intenet. There is a big world out there to experince, try it some time. Its not all evil like this site. Or maybe you could use your time helping people.
Oh please! Penny you have posted quite a few times on this site as well. Next time you are reading the Bible, pay particular attention to how words are spelled and sentences are constructed. Now, see, the Bible is good for something other than the gratification of sanctimonious zealots. You and justice should do lunch, I mean, after you are both done name calling and spouting all your self-righteous platitudes.
Onward Christian Soldiers!
Baddie—
I love you even if you are completely ignorant and out of touch with the inner workings here. I appreciate your try at misguided advice, though.
As for helping, I help as I would help, and for that matter any reasonable, compassionate person would help when anyone is going through a life altering tragedy. I believe that would be called human. That’s the point…help…rather than gloat and kick people when they are down.
So don’t ruin my entertainment. My fun is to engage for recreational purposes– pathetic people like those on this site who are the lowest common denominator. They deserve what they get. A little Justice;-)
Finally, the kicker is I have never had nor wanted conversation with you. who died and made you Dr. Phil?. So off with you. Have a good one, though!
Best,
J
Penny
Finally, someone who sees the sadness of G-Bug. You are beautiful. I will continue to try to have a breakthrough with her(g-bug). That’s what I do, help(even miscreants)when it is needed.
Best,
J
angrier citizen, I havent called anyone names, just made an observation, that somone who says there such a wonderful person, spends alot of time arguing with complete strangers. Yes I do post, but no where close to Glory or a few others.
Arguing makes you a bad person?
Angrier Citizen—> Nutt job
Who died and left you king of diction and syntax, dickie. I have every right to articulate on this POS site as you do. Penny also has that same right. I find it very enjoyable and relaxing. My pursuit of happiness, so to speak.
As you were Chief of site Verbiage—>AC
Have a great day!
Best,
J
didn’t say she was bad,just that she should do more action and less typing. She spends alot of time posting extemely long blogs to people who she doesnt know, when she could be doing more useful things. Just my opinion!
I am in College working on a four year to become a Victim’s Advocate, so I am not sure how that makes me ignorant. It makes me aware of what an offender’s family might endure and how victims deal with situations.
As such, I am going to bid this conversation farewell. Not going to be baited, or say anything rude.
Baddie
You keep going to School. That seems like a very admirable undertaking of course work. I completed several years ago. Remember one thing grasshopper———> education does not equal wisdom.
Good luck on your studies.
Best,
J
Oh you are so clever, Justice. I see what you did there; you made a joke using military jargon. Whoo, you really stuck it to me.
Well, to continue your military theme: Yes sir, General Stupidity!
Angrier Senior Citizen
no, it was a corporate reference
CSV—> Chief of Site Verbiage. Kind of like CIO—Chief information officer, etc.
Glad I could clear that up for you CDO_ Chief Density officer
LOL
Best,
J
Yes, because in the corporate world you hear “stand down”. Nice way to cover your ass though. I really do like the way you did that little pun on my moniker. Once again, clever!
I did like it when you called me a dickie, though! Not really sure what that is, but is sure sounds cute.
Angrier Cancor Sore—>(better?)
LOL—> You are too funny.
Have a great day!
Best,
Justice
CEO(Chief Entertaiment Officer)
Angrier—–>God Bless
J
these constant christians are worse than cloverfield. hell it feels like armagedon and they’re trying to save us all!!!
Good to have you back Miss SPEARS
God Bless
J
believe me…far from it.
yo
He is a great man!
I hope none of ever have to read an article on this website about one of your loved ones. I will never understand the name of this site, although I do understand the need for our society to be aware of crimes such as these. I just think claiming they are all going to hell is a bit over the line.
Well, he is featured on this site because we feel that his stomping his wife to death in front of his son was”over the line”!
Of course any kind of volience and abuse is crossing the line. In this case it ended in death however wishing him to burn in hell is way out of line. This man was sick and not in his right mind to begin with. If he was sane he would have NEVER have committed this terrible crime because he wasn’t that type of person. It’s the sane ones who walk around killing people and going on with there lives like nothing happened. These folks that have no regret or remorse. Killing over money, insurance policies crap like that. These people we consider sane. They are candiates to burn in hell. Not this guy. He needed help and was released from the mental hospital by request of his family for the Holidays. The professionals should have saw that he was not ready.
I am kind of in the middle about this one. It seems as if there was no history of abuse so this was a moment for whatever reason caused him to explode. He had already been admitted to a hospital so I can’t honestly condemn him because it seems as if he was in his right mind ie employed, not concerned about money that this probably would not have happened. Stress over money and not having a job can make a person a little on edge. He went walking once his other son got there for his other son so I would say that he was feeling guilt and overwhelmed. I think that this is a man that had some serious problems but I do not think that he is evil.
Please, somebody, anybody, if a member of my family or one of my friends commits a heinous act, please reserve the first comment for me, because I will come down on them like a ton of brick, like the hair of the gods, like the hammer of Thor! I dumped a boyfriend because I found out he was being charged with aggravated assault and because he had been convicted of grand theft auto. (Moron kicked the shit out of some kid on the docks in the good old city of Boston.) So help me, I will throw the first damn stone at my own family, if only to prove that not all families will protect their moronic relatives.
I can’t believe he did this to his wife in front of his kid. I can’t imagine the nightmares the child must have to live with. My condolences go out to the three children and family of Bernadette.
“I’m going to die. I love you” broke my heart a little.
And if my dad did this to my mom, I’d frigging crucify him, maybe even literally. He hit my mom ONCE, when I was ten, and I’ve still never fully forgiven him (he had a drinking problem and she did hit him with a newspaper first, but the fact that he used a huge suitcase to hit her back was uncalled for. Especially since she’d recently had open-heart surgery, but I digress).
I might come onto a site like this and correct misinformation in terms of the events, but I sure as hell wouldn’t defend him. And that is a solid fucking fact.
Those people coming here to defend scum like him or anyone else are only doing more damage than helping. I sometimes wonder who is worse, the criminal or the people who defend them.
I feel for the child, this will haunt him for the rest of his life, if he even has one left, sorry baby, Im so sorry you had to watch your mother be murdered, Im so sorry you have those pictures in your mind, and you have to be torn, your father, your mother, you have no where to turn, Im sorry little one… I only hope for you that your older brothers are there for you. this breaks my heart…
Mental illness is a very real thing and Joe Giongo was mentally ill. In his right mind this man would have never committed such a crime and I know for a fact he loved his children and family more than himself. Pray to God that you never lose your mind and faculties. It’s so easy for everyone to judge and say kill this man or he’ll burn in hell. I wouldn’t wish mental illness on my worst enemy. I know for a fact that Joe Giongo was institutionalized prior to killing his wife. His family requested that he be released from the mental hospital for the Christmas Holiday. He wasn’t ready for release and the hospital should not have released him. When you are not mentally sound to begin with it’s up to the professional healthcare system and (I mean no disrepect to the deceased)the mother of the children to decide whether or not Joe Giongo was stable enough to be around his children. The system failed on this one. They failed on the Giongo family and especially the children. I won’t see Joe Giongo in hell because I don’t plan on going there and I believe that God will heal Jog Giongo. God bless you Shane, Colin and Quinn. Your dad loved you boys more than himself. He was sick and when his is better mentally he will not be able to live with what he did. I’ll keep you all in prayer.