Kristina Fuelling
This is 27-year-old Kristina Fuelling.
On the 12th of January, 2008, Kristina Fuelling delivered a beautiful baby girl, which she and her husband, Nicholas Fuelling, decided would be named Faith Evelyn Fuelling.
Kristina Fuelling was looking forward to Faith Evelyn Fuelling’s arrival, having stopped work several months ago to focus on her first pregnancy.
According to relatives and friends, Kristina Fuelling, whose MySpace account can be found here, was dedicated to the idea of caring for the new arrival, calling her doctor several times to ask about small concerns she had regarding Faith Evelyn.
So what happened next is particularly surprising.
At about 6 in the morning on the 20th of January, 2008, Kristina Fuelling’s husband, Nicholas Fuelling, found his 8-day-old baby girl – unresponsive – in the bathroom sink.
Kristina Fuelling had drowned her newborn baby girl.
Nicholas Fuelling called 911 as soon as he saw what had happened. Paramedics arrived and did what they could – which wasn’t much. Faith Evelyn was pronounced dead at the local hospital at 20 past 7 in the morning.
Kristina Fuelling was arrested on suspicion of homicide later that day. She is being held under close observation, without bail.
Her family and friends have made this statement to the media:
Kristina is known as a loving and caring person and we have only witnessed Kristina showing affection and care towards her baby. Kristina stopped work months ago only to take care of her pregnancy and baby. She has called the doctor numerous times for every little concern since the baby was born. Her life has been completely dedicated to caring for her child. It seems illogical that such a loving mother would harm her baby and we hope officials will find the same to be true. It does not seem real that baby Faith is not alive and with us. Our prayer and support are united for Kristina.
Interestingly, Kristina Fuelling and her husband, Nicholas Fuelling, had two home foreclosures in 2006. Nicholas Fuelling has also been slapped with a tax lien for over $50,000, and the Better Business Bureau has records of a number of complaints made about his mold-detection company.
Some stress there. Perhaps Kristina Fuelling didn’t really want the added stress of caring for a baby. Maybe money problems were leading to a confrontational situation between the Fuellings.
Or maybe Kristina Fuelling just lost it.
Kristina Fuelling has pled not guilty to a charge of first-degree murder and assault on a child causing death.
If she’s found guilty of either of those charges, she could possibly be sentenced to a prison sentence of 25 years to life.
With all the admins here being male and lacking a uterus, nobody here at People You’ll See In Hell is particularly familiar with the joys of carrying a life inside our bodies, or the emotions that follow the delivery of same.
So, the vote is up to you, the People You’ll See In Hell reader.
Is this yet another case of post-partum psychosis or is Kristina Fuelling just another murderer deserving of Hell?
Update:
27-year-old Kristina Fuelling was appointed two doctors in a Placer County courtroom Friday morning.
Kristina Fuelling will undergo mental evaluations by Dr. Sid Nelson and Dr. Charles Scott. Two doctors are required according to the penal code, and they will evaluate her mental condition at the time of the incident, said Scott Owens, senior deputy district attorney.
Defense attorney Tom Johnson says Fuelling was suffering from postpartum depression that developed into a psychosis.
“There is nothing in her life that indicates she would be harmful to another human being, especially to her daughter,” Johnson said.
Fuelling is charged with first-degree murder and a count of assault on a child causing death.
In July, Fuelling entered a not guilty by reason of insanity plea. The plea means a jury will first try Fuelling as to whether she is innocent or guilty. If she is found guilty, the same jury will then decide if she was legally insane at the time of the drowning.
If Fuelling is found guilty and found legally insane at the time of the crime, she could be placed in a state mental hospital for a minimum of six months and a maximum life sentence.
Fuelling will appear in Placer County Superior court for a report on the doctor evaluations at 8:30 in the morning on the 17th of October, 2008.
Does Kristina Fuelling deserve Hell?
- Yes (54%, 241 Votes)
- No (46%, 203 Votes)
Total Voters: 444
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There’s something missing: Where was she when her husband found the baby in the sink?
Really that angle of this sad story really jumps out, or at least to me, upon reading it. Generally I think I’ve heard cops say ” follow the money” when these circumstances are present and it seems daddy, who claims to have found the child, is worth more than a mere mention, especially given the circumstances, but I suppose we’ll all have to take this at the investigators words and hope they’ve done the job right….that said how many times do we see later that law enforcement settles in on a suspect and that’s it ——- until later investigations find the flaws in the original one, just sayin’
I wonder if this isn’t another Andrea Yates case. Andrea Yates, imho, did not deserve hell — she was and is completely insane, wacko, out to lunch, whatever, and is even now unaware of what she has done. (They say that when people come to visit her at the hospital she asks how her children are.)
Or I could be wrong. Maybe Kristina is just a coldblooded killer. (Another Marybeth Tinning?) Time will tell.
ok I’m sorry. she is fucking ugly and scary looking. she’s worse looking than that fuckin Kumari gladiator model chick with the guns.
she doesn’t look that insane but looks like Rosie O’Donnell and Drew Carey had a kid that almost had a unibrow. ugh.
can you spell, post partum depression…
Wow. This is the first time I’ve ever voted “no” on the question, so yeah, post-partum depression.
If she did do it, I don’t believe she deserves hell, it definitely looks like a serious case of post-partum depression/psychosis
She just needed some multi-vitamins!
lol, Tom.
She has the hormone-mustache, and the pregnancy mask. I’m going to guess lots of wacko going on.
Over-involvement with doctors about a baby’s health, as well as apathy and non-responsiveness to baby are both signs that something is wrong with the mother. She killed her baby, so yes, she is going to have to go to hell. My guess is that it will be now rather than later.
I think these things used to happen less because families tended to live together or close-by, and taking care of babies and children was a group family responsibility. Nowadays not many people live near family, and mothers are expected to be miraculously perfect the second the baby finally arrives. I remember how hard it was with no help, and my ex-husband was no help. He actually made it worse by expecting me to keep baby quiet so that he could get his beauty rest.
It appears this woman had other family nearby. I’d like to know how none of them saw any clues that she was going to snap. I’s also like to hear how much any of them were involved and gave the mother a break.
If she looked anything like her mugshot then, it would appear that not everything was going great in motherhoodland. She looks like a zombie. Shut down. Not exactly someone who should be caring for a baby.
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Kill Baby=Go To Hell.
Period.
Stop trying to justifying the unjustifiable.
Lemme try that again.
Stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.
I agree, Trace. Hell for all baby killers. For god’s sake, if you can’t hack it as a new mother, TELL SOMEONE! It’s better to put a crying baby in a safe place, like their crib, and let them scream while you chill yourself out than to ever, EVER, resort to any kind of violence on such a helpless, dependant little soul. Breaks my heart.
It’s hard to say what made her snap.
It’s a shame that our state mental health system fell apart in the manner it did. She may have been a perfect candidiate for a “ride into the country”.
Now we wait until someone commits a crime before we as a society will step in to do something!
Also I bet that she will be treated better for killing her baby than for failure to pay taxes. For “civil offenses” one is guilty and must prove temselves innocent (like speeding tickets) while a criminal offense one is innocent until proven guilty. So.. let’s criminalize non payment of taxes and make the IRS prove that we owe thwm rather than us having to prove we don’t!
Baby-killers should, of course, spend eternity in Hell no matter what reason they had for killing an innocent, helpless child. There are no reasons. None. Babies don’t threaten you or talk down to you or tell you you’re no good. They don’t do a damn thing to deserve getting killed. Nada. Zip. So yeah, Hell for this woman. No getting around it. Sorry.
Ehhhh, thats a tough one. As of this point, I’m undecided.
LOL at Tom Cruise up there, though!
Yes, she deserves hell for this. I will admit that I do feel bad for her though. I just feel far worse for that poor baby.
Maybe someone here can enighten me: Why do any of you feel sorry for her???? That is incomprehensible to me.
Not me.
Not one damned bit.
Where was she when the husband found the baby???
It really depends if they can prove she was psychotic. PPD is one thing but PSYCHOSIS is another. Andrea Yates suffered from post partum psychosis. She wasn’t in her right mind. She didn’t know what she was doing. She was flat out, bat-doo-doo crazy. That’s why she doesn’t deserve hell. It will depend with this lady. If it comes out she was depressed, then she should rot in jail and hell. If she was in la la land and voices were saying, “save your baby, the aliens are coming, go under the bathroom sink sea for party fun now” then maybe not so much. Crazy is crazy, not evil.
Very true, Jester.
And exactly how sane are you if you drown your new born baby?
Hmm?
Is that, in itself, a sane act?
No where near a sane act, but it was either out of physcosis or maliciousness.
I really don’t know why I feel bad for her. I suppose it’s partly because ppd was one of my worst fears. I had suffered from depression very severely before having my children and so I thought that there was a strong change of it happening to me.
undecided…I mean…is it too far fetched that the husband may have killed the girl? Just because he called 911 does not mean he didn’t do it and then convince the mother she had done it.
It’s hard to say without further knowledge, but based purely on what I see here, I voted no. It looks like she had PPD, definitely.
As for the people asking why people feel sorry for her, I’m half-guessing you’ve never suffered from a mental illness. Seriously, they make you do all kinds of things you wouldn’t even dream of in reality.
Before my wife was diagnosed, I saw some very strange things and more than once feared for hers, mine, and our childrens safety. Not making excuses because there is help. My wife got the help she needed. Too bad Kristina didn’t. I personally think her husband is every bit as responsible as she is. If your wife is a whack-job you’re going to know it, and if you allow her to go untreated you’re just as responsible, maybe more. The person with the illness may not even realize their thinking and actions are flawed. My wife didn’t.
I once witnessed a woman have a postpartum psychotic break, a few days after giving birth – in my home no less. The hospital had kept the baby saying it had an “infection,” when really they could tell something wasn’t right with mom. She came over to talk to me about how her husband had “evil eyes” and proceeded to ask me if her baby was the devil. Before long she was running all over my house screaming “Get away from me!” An ambulance had to take her away. Thank God her baby wasn’t with her. When a woman has a psychotic break after having a baby, it’s horribly sad and very scary. There’s a big difference between 1) “baby blues,” 2) clinical depression, and then 3) postpartum psychosis. I would think they will be able to tell which situation this might be, if it was indeed her that drowned the baby. So horribly sad.
BTW, the husband had called the police to report her craziness before she came over to my house, but since she hadn’t threatened to hurt herself or anyone else, they couldn’t do anything. So she left and came to my house. That’s just stupid – they should be able to take someone like her in for a 72-hour evaluation.
The problem is look at al the abandoned asylums!
20 years ago the states had the capacity to handle people who were not criminals, yet were a threat to themselves or society.
What I am seeing is a reversal. The old way was to treat the mentally ill like criminals, putting them in the same jails in the early late 1700′s & early 1800′s The asylum system separated the two.
Then came de-instutionalization, loved by the bleeding hearts! Now we wait for the lunatics to do something criminal and put them in jail. The problem with that becomes the fact that the bleeding hearts are using this fact as to turn the prisons of today into the asylums of yesterday! Prisons were ment for punishment – period! Asylums are for rehab or dignified confinement should one be of some threatening nature or potential if left to their own devices.
So what’s going to happen?
She did not get the care she needed, so she committed a criminal act, so off to jail she goes. Now she’s in jail, so the bleeding hearts will now try top help her!
Blame the husband? NO!
What could he do?
Call the police repeatedly? Get locked up for harassing the police! (I had a neighbor charged with such)
Have her removed from the house? His ass would be in a motel first!
Have the baby taken away? The state would most likeky place the mother in an apartment WITH THE BABY.
Most states would place a baby with Lizzy Borden before the father should the state feel that the the mother is no direct threat to the child.
Ok, I do NOT feel sorry for this girl. For one thing, I had post-partum depression but never once did I feel like drowning my newborn child. I had 4 of them and oh yeah, I got upset with all the crying and cholic and everything else, but I DID NOT DROWN MY KIDS!!! Psychotic or not, there IS NO EXCUSE!!!! NONE!!! Ya just don’t kill babies. Period. For any damn reason.
Oh and another thing, if someone is psychotic, it happened long before the little one came along. Somebody should have known about it before then. Seems like something like that just doesn’t pop up once the kids pops out. Ridiculous. Just another “temporary insanity” excuse to get somebody off. I’m temporarily insane right now. Hahahahah. BUT I’m not going to kill anybody or drown my kids, etc. GEEZ.
My wife had two children, and she survived through the entire ordeal. It’s called mental toughness. Everyone’s got it; use it.
Is a person suffering from post-partum depression not evil for killing her child? FUCK NO!!! I don’t give a fuck how severe it might be for some, or their ‘inability’ to handle it. They killed and they should be killed in the same manner. Someone should put a picture of her baby in the same sink, fill it with water, force open her eyelids (see the clockwork orange), and not let her sorry ass out until she stops kicking.
the bottom line is that it’s a proven fact that EVERY human being CAN separate right from wrong, unless they are clinically insane (that’s another debate).
So, I voted yes.
I voted a huge hell yes. What this woman did is the lowest of lows. It goes against every level of morality in this world. The one person in life that should always love and protect you is your mother. This woman is truly evil.
However, I firmly believe the reason that PPD is so common now in this society is due to the overmedicalization of pregnancy, birth, and infancy. What do you expect to happen when you confine a woman to a hospital bed, paralyze her from the waist down, and then pump her full of drugs. Then you make her feel sick and you slice her open and interfere with the natural life process. Furthermore, you teach women that their bodies don’t work as they’re intended and you abruptly shut the hormonal production down when you start bottlefeeding.
Don’t F with nature. It’ll kick your ass.
Kim, excellent points.
That’s why I don’t consider Yates-the-cult-following-nut-job necessarily evil.
The evil in that family was the fuckhead husband, for consciously ignoring he mental state, and constantly popping babies.
I see a lot of fuck-nut for parents on a daily basis, and I’d say a good 70% of the people should never have chidren.
Nicole – Don’t bash c-sections. My son probably would not have survived without one, and I may not have either. ( I had full-blown eclampsia and placental abruption) They have their place.
I do not feel sorry for this woman. She chose to kill her daughter rather than ask for some help. There’s no second chance.
Harpy, I don’t think Nicole was pointing directly at that. I think she was referring to the normal delivery process.
C section in some cases is the only option.
My dog knows right from wrong better than these people. As I come down stairs she has enough sense to quietly sneak off the couch. She also makes a point of sneaking up stairs and sleeping by my side of the bed before my alrm clock rings.
Maybe if these people were as smart as my dog, we’d be reading about a baby left at a fire station with a few briuses and a note saying “When I saw these briuses I knew I had done wrong and could not continue…”
As I stated before, this woman would be a perfect person to have locked up for a while BEFORE she became a crimninal. By turning the prison system into an isane asylum, we have displaced the insane and don’t punish criminals any more.
In Springfield MA the old jail is being torn down. It was built before air-conditioning, before electricity was popular. The cells are on the inside of the building, criminals did NOT get an outside wall to hack through. There are huge piles of bricks as the cell blocks come down – back in the 1880′s criminals were caged and NOT trusted to stay in their cages. Neweer jails are built more like the Kirkbride asylums if the 1850′s.
I would like to see more actual evidence before I vote for hell or not. Sounds like the husband had some heavy issues as well. Now if she DID kill her baby. . . We don’t need no water. . .
I agree. I say the husband is guilty. After all, he made a baby with this woman. Ugh! So much ugliness in this world. Ugliness begets ugliness.
Thank you, psychosomatic. The husband may not have been the one to put the baby in the water, but he sure is guilty of letting it happen. I know he wasn’t there, blah blah blah, but how the HELL can you not notice that someone is sick? I’ve always got people telling my I’m a psycho bitch and all that so I’m sure somebody would notice if I wanted to kill my kid. hahahah. Some people just should not be allowed to procreate. Pull the plug on that damn gene pool!!!
“Some people just should not be allowed to procreate. Pull the plug on that damn gene pool!!!”
That sounds like a good plot for a movie. lol A Sequal to Minority Report? Instead of a pre-crime unit, this time we get the PPPP (pre-procreating-psycho-parents) unit.
lol @ pre-procreating-psycho-parents unit LMAO
for those who called this woman “ugly”….she JUST had a baby. if you have any common knowledge, women do tend to gain weight while pregnant and keep the weight on for more than a few weeks afterward. i know this girl. personally. how dare any of you judge her or look at her picture and make your own claims of who she is and whether or not her soul is forgiven. how dare you. the family’s statement is correct: she and nick are two loving, selfless people who loved one another and who loved their new baby, Faith. it is a terrible terrible tragedy for all involved, including those who have chosen to place their misplaced judgements among the family. no one understands why she committed this act. but, i know for a fact, that she was not in her right mind and a definite evil overtook her that morning. the picture you see of her above is NOT her. she is a gorgeous woman with one of the biggest hearts. we will never know or can never understand what happened to her that morning…all we can do is pray for her, her soul, her baby and the father who has lost the most important people to him.
blah blah freaking blah. I’m not sure I even care WHY she killed the baby. Does anybody care WHY? All I know is, at the risk of repeating myself, YA DON’T KILL BABIES!! There is no good reason. EVER. Sorry. I don’t care if she was gosh damn super freaking model or Mary Magdalene. Yeah, it is a tragedy. FOR THE BABY!!! She might have a big heart but she sure didn’t when she was drowning a helpless infant. Sounds to me like a black heart.
err no heart…
On the contrary, Brittany, I DO have a heart. FOR THE CHILDREN!!! :)
Kim- I had to re-read that, too.
But my guess now would be that Brittany meant that the baby-killing-mama had no heart. Brittany can correct me if I’m wrong.
And, Kimberly… I think most people know that women before, during and after they’ve had babies, no matter what their weight are usually very attractive to someone. Generally that’s how they got in the predicament to begin with!
More likely…. women who’ve just had babies and then killed them aren’t so pretty to most people.
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Kimberly, who the FUCK cares what she was like as a person, or HOW fucking much she loved her baby.
She killed a TRULY innocent human being, and she needs to go the same exact way!!
So you and her family are gonna have to sell your bullshit somewhere else, ’cause we’re all stocked up here.
Kimberly I understand that “women do tend to gain weight while pregnant and keep the weight on for more than a few weeks afterward.” I never said she was fat and ugly, just ugly. I mean she is ugly like she was hard whipped with the ugly stick you know. Thats all. Sorry if you misunderstood. :P
Ohhhhh…ok Brittany, I’m following you now. Sorry!! I was thinking you said I had no heart. hahahah. I guess I meant that this girl had a heart like the Grinch. A leeetle teeny one.
You’re right Glory. Sorry I would’ve straightened that one up a while ago if I had caught it right away. Sorry for the misunderstanding, but yes I did mean her having no heart.
at least with a black heart, you’re still alive, and this women is very dead inside.
I do think that she was going through some things I than heard cases where some women alomost kill their baby after having them and I also herad of women killing their self and their baby after birth. I just think she need some professional help.
This is one of the saddest stories I’ve read on this website:(
I had a very difficult time with the hell or not poll. On one hand, killing a child is, at least in my opinion, the worst evil that can be done and certainly deserving of hell. On the other hand, I have personal experience with mental illness and know what it’s like when your mind is not your own. It’s hard to understand if you’re not mentally ill and have never known someone who is. Telling a mentally ill person to be “mentally tough” or to “suck it up and get over it” is like telling a blind person that he’s not trying hard enough to see or telling a quadriplegic to just get up and walk. They can’t. A blind person’s eyes don’t work–they won’t let him see, no matter how much he personally wishes it. A quadriplegic cannot walk because his body won’t allow it, even though he may wish it very much. The brain of a mentally ill person will not allow him to behave or process thoughts normally, no matter how much he wants it to.
I could be completely wrong in my assessment, having only the facts seen here, but from what I see, this woman was suffering from psychosis. Childbirth is hard on anyone and some people are prone to mental problems that may arise afterwards. This woman needed constant observation and help from a psychiatrist, a therapist, neighbors, and relatives (and possibly hospitalization and medication) before it ever got to this point. It’s never bad for a new mother to need help, especially when she’s not herself. It is bad for her to go without help and then do something horribly monstrous like this.
I feel sorry for her, I admit. When her mind comes back to her, she’s going to realize what she did and she’s going to have live with it for the rest of her life. By the time she gets out of prison (or the psychiatric hospital) she’s going to be too old to have another child. (Forgive me for saying so, but that may be a good thing.) Her husband may end up divorcing her (it’s usually what happens when one spouse is locked away for years on end. He may be different, but only time will tell.) Her life is almost as over as her child’s. And all because she lost control of her mental faculties and there was no one around at that moment to help. Who knows? If her husband had walked in just a little bit earlier and stopped her from doing this unthinkable, horrid deed, she may have gotten the help she needed and been a wonderful mother to a wonderful daughter. Now we’ll never know.
I’m not saying that she should be set free with an “oh, poor woman! You’ve been through so much, let’s let you get out of jail just this once. Don’t do it again, though.” No, it doesn’t work that way. Even though she didn’t mean to, (I hope!) she still committed a heinous crime. But I still voted “no” for hell.
Why does she need to be sent to hell? She’s already there.
HELL ALL THE WAY! I’m sorry but YOU KNOW when your feeling depressed or have an “emotional wreck” after having a child! She should havce told her doctor about that and he/she could have given her something or helped in some way! I HOPE SHE BURNS ON HELL…..of course after being drowned and NOT having any defense! SICK BITCH!
First of all this woman needs to have her tubes tied or cut out whatever so she can never ever ever have another child. She needs serious mental help. I think it should be a requirement that everyone under 18 wear chasity belts and then over the age of 18 manditory birth control and in order to get off of it to have kids you have to pass a series of test to decided if you are a fit parent.
Crazy doesn’t justify killing a baby.
I’ve had one. I got a little crazy. Never even thought about killing mine.
Hell!
oh karma is a motherfucker isnt it fuelling your family should of never took advantage of hardworking people and took peoples money maybe your wife would of never been so stressed out to where she had to kill your baby. maybe your family should have never done fraudulent work.
Child Murder = Death
Child Abuse = Life in prison
If this is how you feel please sign the petition at http://www.justiceforchildren.net
JFC are trying implement changes in the law which make this possible. To never release ANYONE who harms a child.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR CHILD ABUSE!
On a personal note I suffered PPD, I never once had anger or animosity towards my child, but at myself. So I sought Medical help!!!! I didn’t need any tablets, just a good chat! But irrespective of the treatment, this wench is wholey responsible! She placed her child under the water until she stopped breathing, I would have taken less time to ring the doctors for an appointment!
She should be given the DP as punishment.
Having suffered PPD myself and Not killing my child, i agree with you whole heartedly. Im going to check out your site and have a look at the law changes you are trying to impliment. Anyone who is wanting to protect children gets a big thumbs up from me.
Updated with trial information, doctor evaluation information.
I have had secere post natal depression but i never wanted to harm my baby. If anything i wanted to run away with her to a hotel room and just be by ourselves, it was everyone else that pissed me off. I understand depression completely what i cant understand is how a mother can drown her baby. I don’t know on this one whether she deserves hell or not, but i do know if i ever felt the need to hurt my child i would take my own life first. there is no excuse.
don’t judge someone till you have been in their position.
and second, you can’t just be sent to hell. first of all, God decides, and you don’t earn your way to heaven. it is based on your relationship with Christ.
and anyways, everyone sins. you have no right to judge her.
don’t judge her unless you are perfect yourself.
Rev. Mazzi- Care to set this idiot straight? You do it better than anyone else.
Kelsey- please don’t breed.
If it pleases the PYSIH court, I’ll handle this Bible thumper. Kelsey, I love God as much as anyone, but my sins pale in comparison to Kristina’s. I’m far from perfect, but I feel better of my chances to make it in heaven than Kristina’s or yours, you bleeding heartless cunt.
Nicely done Tito =) We could get a tag-team going.
As for the woman in this story… I think I classify her differently than many of the child murderers we see at PYSIH. I think that PPP (post partum psychosis) is real although very rare. It can’t be compared to PPD, any more than schizophrenia can be compared to depression. I don’t think she was neglectful or deliberately wanted to harm her baby, but she can’t just be allowed to go unpunished or untreated either. She needs psychiatric confinement, and needs to be sterilized.
We can’t treat insane people like we treat evil people. This is not a case of anger management issues or frustration. This woman is almost certainly terribly mentally ill and didn’t know what she was doing. Besides, no punishment that society can give her will be worse than having to live her life knowing what she did, once (or if) she is able to understand it.
You guys know me, and know that I would gladly rip the faces off most of the child murderers out there, but I couldn’t do it to this woman.
Well I am perfect Kelsey and I say fuck the bitch, she burns in Hell.
I am with you Mazzi, I hate people who hurt innocent babies, but I do not feel like she was evil. Someday she is going to realize what she did and there is going to be no punishment like that one. She diffently needs some help and I hope that she gets it. There is no consequence worse than the one that she condemned herself to because I do believe that she was excited to be a mommy.
http://cbs13.com/local/kristina.fuelling.not.2.867070.html
and she was found not guilty by reason of insanity.
Not guilty of murder… but still going to prison between 6-15 years for abuse and other charges…
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50659
I’ll never get the whole “not guilty by means of insanity” thing. Ok…she’s insane, but she is still guilty of killing her child. I wish it could be changed to “guilty but insane” with allowances made at sentencing for the insanity.
So let me get this straight. She was sane the day she TRIED to kill her baby, but insane three days later when she actually succeeded??
I guess I’ll never be smart enough to be a judge.
Wow, she last logged in to myspace on 1/8/08…just four days before she did it. She lives in Roseville, too close to me!! (I’m in Sacramento) What a shame. R.I.P. Faith Evelyn
i honestly dont know what to think right now. how many women have had babies thinking the experience was going to be one way and then it threw you for a loop? granted, that happened to me but i survived it. some people are just not as strong, especially when other things are falling down around you. i believe she will be going to hell, and living in her own personal hell, but i think there were some mitigating factors going on (and i dont say that often!) mandatory sterilization and constant therapy for rest of her days, along with an address to either prison or nut ward, i do feel sorry for her (but even sorrier for the baby)
Hey, I don’t agree with what a lot of you have said. I know her husband, and like us all has made some good and bad decisions in his life, sin is something we all get in trouble with. But what happened with Kristina and the baby was a tragic accident. From what I know she ran into the room and told Nick that the baby wasn’t breathing and than he did CPR on Faith until the paramedics came. And I don’t agree that it is our place to judge how pretty Kristina is, the poor girl had a BABY 8 days earlier, she was probably stressed out of her mind, and its a mug shot not a model picture. How good would you look if you realized you had just killed your baby? Whether she goes to hell does not depending upon what huge mistakes she makes. Everyone is going to hell unless they accept Jesus Christ, as the perfect sacrifice for their sins, and that there is no way to repay him. Lastly, no one should worry about Faith; she is in a much better place (heaven). It says in the Bible (Matthew 18:10 & Isaiah 7:14-16) that all little children and babies go straight to heaven. How can you feel bad for the baby, when she didn’t have to suffer sin on Earth? I’m not saying that babies should die, and that it isn’t painful to families when they do, but Faith’s life, although it was not long, was precious and helped fulfill God’s will, Nick is a very devoted Christian who loves his youth group students and is working with God to deal with his present situation. So I really hope that none of you end up in hell, and no matter what we do wrong, our sins can be forgiven. I pray that Kristina stays strong in her relationship with God, and that he may be able to ease her pain. Can you imagine the pain of loosing your only child?
Oh great. Another SuperChristian friend of a murderer. Why are you people always preachy Christians? Why can’t you be a preachy Hindus or Taoists or something more original? YOUR SHTICK! IT IS OLD!
I do have to give you credit however. For this statement:
“How can you feel bad for the baby, when she didn’t have to suffer sin on Earth? I’m not saying that babies should die, and that it isn’t painful to families when they do, but Faith’s life, although it was not long, was precious and helped fulfill God’s will.”
you win the coveted SICKEST BULLSHIT I’VE HEARD ALL WEEK award. Congratulations. Your turkey and kick-in-the-neck will arrive by courier when you least expect it. Be sure to tip well, those people work hard. You disgust me.
The justification of a baby dying as a good thing is truly one of the most bizarre things I have read!! Here is what I do not understand-what is the benefit of being a good god fearing Christian your whole life-always doing the right thing, going to church when you could live a sinful criminal life and repent at the last possible second right before the needle goes in your arm and end up in heaven just the same as Mr. Pious? That whole everyone is forgiven no matter what they did never has made sense to me and if any of these repentant child molesting, raping, animal torturing, scum sucking evil bastards featured here can end up in heaven just by saying, oh by the way, sorry God, then I do not want to end up there!
I’m going to take your post Mary line by line and rip it and you to shit.
“Hey, I don’t agree with what a lot of you have said. I know her husband, and like us all has made some good and bad decisions in his life, sin is something we all get in trouble with.”
Thats not what is in question here. Or are you making excuses for murder?
“But what happened with Kristina and the baby was a tragic accident.”
Obviously you have no solid understanding of the word accident. I’m no teacher so you go look the word up your self. But lets just say falling down the stairs is and accident. Holding an 8 day old baby under water till it’s dead is murder. Simple and easy. Nooooo you don’t need to thank me. It’s all part of the service.
“From what I know she ran into the room and told Nick that the baby wasn’t breathing and than he did CPR on Faith until the paramedics came.”
Were you there? You know shit. I know shit becasue I wasn’t there. So I don’t try to make shit up to cover for a “friend” FUCK YOU!
“And I don’t agree that it is our place to judge how pretty Kristina is, the poor girl had a BABY 8 days earlier, she was probably stressed out of her mind, and its a mug shot not a model picture.”
First part: I don’t give 2 shits about what you agree with or don’t. I really don’t. I’ll judge people as I see fit based on thier actions as people and not on the excuses I can come up with for them.
Second part: She’s still Vietnamese ugly. The kind of ugly that you can only fuck if you put a Vietnamese flag over her face and fuck her for revenge.
“How good would you look if you realized you had just killed your baby? ”
Your meds much have warn off here. You actuially say she murdered her baby. Good job! Stay off the meds.
“Whether she goes to hell does not depending upon what huge mistakes she makes.”
So murdering an 8 year old baby does not qualify a person to hell? WFT? so what does this cunt have to do then? Well based on your opinion.
“Everyone is going to hell unless they accept Jesus Christ, as the perfect sacrifice for their sins, and that there is no way to repay him.”
Oh hell next you’ll say we have to “donate” to the “church” or else it’s to hell with us right? Well fuck you and your church. I choose to worship in my own way. Yes I have been washed in the blood…..bla bla bla. I love my God but hate religion.
“no one should worry about Faith; she is in a much better place (heaven). It says in the Bible (Matthew 18:10 & Isaiah 7:14-16) that all little children and babies go straight to heaven. How can you feel bad for the baby, when she didn’t have to suffer sin on Earth?”
God loves the sinner but hates the sin. FUCK YOU A THIRD TIME CUNT!
“I’m not saying that babies should die, and that it isn’t painful to families when they do, but Faith’s life, although it was not long, was precious and helped fulfill God’s will, Nick is a very devoted Christian who loves his youth group students and is working with God to deal with his present situation.”
But you did say that babies should die. On yer meds again? What kind of shit are you smoking? Please pass me some because I need to drop out of reality for a while myself.
I will say a prayer for Nick. He is a victim in this also. He shouldn’t be forgotten.
“So I really hope that none of you end up in hell, and no matter what we do wrong, our sins can be forgiven.”
Just like that? We can murder, rape, steal, torture and all that bad no no stuff and all we have to do is say a little prayer and all is good to go? FUCK YOU A 4TH time “lady! It just doesn’t work that way. Never has nor will it ever.
“I pray that Kristina stays strong in her relationship with God, and that he may be able to ease her pain. Can you imagine the pain of loosing your only child?”
I pray that she gets “raped”, tortured and killed in jail. You see there are a lot of “women” in jail that would rather die 10,000 times than kill thier child(ren) they might be a little offended that this cunt murdered her own.
I have a daughter. A wonderful, smart, kind and caring daughter. She speaks 2 languages and is learning a third. she gets mostly A’s, is active in her community and is the best thing that happend to me in my fucked up life. I have never even thought of killing her. There were times when I wanted her to stop crying. There were times when she threw a fit in a toy store. Did I kill her? Nope she doing very well and is very healthy.
I really hope you get your mental issues some help. You really need it. Stay off the meds. They not only fuck up yer head they destroy your body as well. Your body is a temple and all that christian stuff.
Love it, you said everything going through my head-can not believe anyone could say a baby was in a better place for being murdered….
Thank you mulch… I was considering a reply based solely on biblical scripture for why we should be furious, in response to this comment:
Barring the ability to figure out a way to make her monitor throw bricks at her skull, I doubt anything short of profanity delivered by ICBM could scar its way through the density enveloping whatever logic she might be able to comprehend. To a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail, but in this case, this woman needed a bigger hammer, and I bow to the grace you showed in this response.
I’m struck by the nym you chose to post under, Mary Magdalen. (For those of you who aren’t familiar with the bible, Mary Magdalen was a former prostitute, and probably the woman who was closest to Jesus. Many speculate about a romantic relationship.) I think it shows just how arrogant and prideful you really are. While the rest of us wallow in our ignorance, you sit up on high and pass judgment on us all. Let’s be honest here, if this baby killer wasn’t your friend, you’d be passing judgment on her too. If there’s one thing you can always count on when you’re dealing with holier than thou, born again Christians, it a very high level of hypocrisy, and you just proved it again.
I read that Mary Magdalene was from a rich family.
Well that’s me fucked….don’t believe in Jc, Gay, Divorced, Stole a candy bar when I was a kid….oh poor me, my life is over….hey mary…your and idiot though and through….
Gee, I dunno, being murdered sure sounds like suffering sin on Earth, twit
Where was the husband while she was drowning their baby?
If he found the baby in the sink at 6:00 AM, my guess would be he was asleep…
I understand the instability of his finances may have contributed, but a woman drowns her kid in a sink… I don’t know if the husband can really be blamed for this one.
He could have easily been in the next room watching T.V.. If a baby can’t get air in her lungs, she can’t cry for daddy. What a horrible thing for him to have to deal with.
You just never know with Placer County! Hell they might have done it being so how desperate they are for money and convictions!
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Looky-here, I think it is a pile of spam!
you are all so ignorant. Kristina is a beautiful woman. having known her first hand, this whole thing is ridiculous. she is an amazing woman. not a single one of you has the right to judge. especially someone who experienced postpartum depression.
you ignorant people. let the one without any sins cast the first stone.
and guess what? God already forgave her. why can’t you have the heart to do the same?
You’re not the first to use the nym “me”. And I am sure you won’t be the last. Oh, and none of us are God, nor do we have the capacity that He has to forgive.
Grrrr, I keep going down a slippery slope of preachiness
News flash, stupid: people who are beautiful don’t drown newborns in sinks.
So, God told you personally that he has already forgiven her? Really? Wow, I wish I had a line to God. Unfortunately, all I can do is hope your Beautiful Person gets her just deserts on this plane of existence. It’s amazing how people get suddenly religious when they’re guilty.
She’s hideous. Any beautiful thing she did in the past was completely negated when she murdered her baby. Please go shoot yourself in the head. Thank you.
*starts a slow clap* Lovin the diatribe, vcbecky!!! You go girl!
Has this scumbag repented? Repentance is the first key to forgiveness. It is not unconditional.
I agree with kimberly. I knew her back in high school. I haven’t seen her since, so I can’t know with certainty her mental state, but in high school, she was sweet, never judgmental and was very accepting of people who weren’t super popular. I didn’t know her well, but, you can tell if someone is crazy and she wasn’t. Postpartum depression is horrible. I felt emotions that I can’t even describe. My obgyn, the nurses in the hospital and our childbirth classes all covered the topic of postpartum psychosis. It is a serious condition where you lose control and your grip on reality. She may have thought she washing clothes. I honestly do not think this was in any way malicious. She will have to live with what has happened and will live with the remorse and regret for the rest of her life. That is punishment enough. My heart aches when I think about a sweet baby dying and I’m sure she feels the same. We volunteered together at a daycare when we were in high school. She was great with the kids. When you lose touch with reality, you have no idea what you’re doing. I truly believe it was postpartum psychosis. She is not one of those women that beat their kids and chop them up into little pieces. It’s a horrible tragedy and awareness of the signs of psychosis needs to be raised among new parents to avoid tragedies like these. “let he who is without son cast the first stone”. If she is guilty of intentionally murdering her daughter, God will judge her.
**let he who is without *sin* cast the first stone**
A group of religious scholars wanted to catch Jesus Christ in a quandry where the literal application of the law did not meet the common understanding. If Christ had murdered the adulterer, by stoning her, the local populace would have turned against him. It was a trap and Christ stepped out of it. Had this person been a money lender who wouldn’t get out of the church, a murderer of a baby(like the woman above), or even a thief crucified along side him, I think he would have forgiven them, but he also would have not spared them from justice.
Hey Jenny, you know what? I am not sin free – in fact, my sins are numerous indeed. But I never killed a child, or anyone else for that matter, and I never wanted to.
God judges us in the afterlife, but down here on Earth, if you kill a child, your ass is mine. And it’s not judging that I do, I just give my opinion. No one ever dies or goes to a bad place to be punished based on anything I say. And I have a God given right to express my opinion – if you don’t like it, you have the same right to express yours.
But not in your world, right? In your world, everyone marches in lockstep to the same set of rules, because if you don’t, you are somehow less-than, or not good enough.
I like my world a lot better, even if I have to put up with people from your world.
Amen
“Let she who is without pride offer spiritual advice.” VCBecky 3:16 Real Life Version
Crap, I forgot the “Go and falsely advise no more.” part, and I’m always getting on others for that same mistake. Oh well, I’m only human…
Ok first of all, I never said anyone was wrong or not entitled to their own opinion. Second, my name is Jennifer, not Jenny. It is very condescending to call me that. We’re all adults here and I’d appreciate if we can keep this an adult conversation. I was merely stating my opinion, just like everyone else has done. Personally, I don’t like Christians that say that others’ beliefs are wrong. I believe that each and every one of us has the right to believe what we choose…and to speak freely about it. As I said, I believe (I, NOT you SHOULD) that God forgives all sins if you are truly repentant. I DO NOT believe that sin is without consequence or that God’s forgiveness is a free license to do whatever you want. I believe it is the state of your heart that God sees and not merely the words spoken in a prayer. I believe, as Kristina told me in the past she believes, that if she is repentant, God will forgive her. Maybe I’m right, maybe you’re right. We all have our beliefs because we all think they’re right. Again, everyone has the right to believe what they choose and I have not condemned anyone for what they have said and I shouldn’t be condemned for mine. I don’t have to agree with what you think, just as you don’t have to agree with me. Just stating an opinion. After all, isn’t that what these pages are for?
Quick! Someone finish this sentence: “If you can’t take the heat…” aaaaand, go!
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE KITCHEN !!!!
Oopsie…I dropped an f-bomb. Oh noes !!!!
No problem-o :D
What was that about keeping this an adult conversation? If you’re not then I guess I won’t. I get it, I believe in God and I knew Kristina in high school, so that makes everything I say sound like the Charlie brown teacher. Guess I’ll try once more. Maybe I’m not a good Christian because I don’t like the Christians that tell everybody they’re wrong. I haven’t seen Kristina in 11 years, but based on what I knew of her then, I don’t think this was malicious. And hey, dontcha think that’s why the judge gave her the lowest possible sentence? 2 doctors checked her out and based on their reports, the judge made that decision. Go ahead and jump all over everything I just said. Funny, I didn’t say anything derogatory about anybody else’s comments (until now), but because I expressed an opinion different from yours, I get jumped on. What’s that called? Oh yeah, hypocrite! I’m being a little hypocritical now, yes, but I a can admit it. Can you?
What you are doing is taking everything to heart. So what if someone called you “Jenny.” That is perfectly acceptable form of the name Jennifer. That’s the only thing I’m hoppin’ all over. It’s not condescending to call you that.
Hmmm JENNIFER, seem to me from both your recent posts that you object mostly to the things I had to say. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough when I wrote it, so let me try again.
I’m a firm believer that postpartum depression, and it’s uglier, meaner cousin, postpartum psychosis are legitimate medical conditions suffered by a small percentage of women after childbirth. Adrea Yates is a perfect example of someone who was not responsible for her actions when she killed her 4 children.They were not murder victims.
Was Kristina suffering from PPP? Clearly, not to the extent that Andrea Yates was. But there are some parallels – like Rusty Yates, Nick Fuelling certainly deserved to be prosecuted along with his wife for not protecting Faith Evelyn from Kristina after her first attempt to kill the child. He seems to have been a less than honorable businessman who created much of the psychological pressure that caused his wife to lose it.
Does all this excuse Kristina from her responsibility, when she drowned her 8-day-old baby girl. You know what, I don’t really care if it does or not. Everyone surrounding this case seems to care only about Kristina’s welfare. Poor poor Kristina. I couldn’t give two squirts for Kristina or her welfare. All I’m interested in is a newborn baby who never had a chance to live her life.
That’s what I do, I speak for the victim who could never speak for herself, when folks like you, and Nicholas, and the Judge, and all of Kristina’s friends want to forget about her. I know what you’ll say – Kristina wasn’t responsible for her actions, the doctors said so, so their was no crime, but there’s still this inconveniently dead newborn mucking up your happy ending. Someone is responsible for that God dammit!
So I won’t let Kristina off the hook quite as easily as you want me to, and I won’t let Nick and her friends forget about Faith either. I have no delusions that I’m affecting their lives very much, if at all, but when someone like you comes on this website a preaches “forgive and forget”, you can bet your ass I’ll be there.
The name thing is annoying. I was talking about the comment “But not in your world, right? In your world, everyone marches in lockstep to the same set of rules, because if you don’t, you are somehow less-than, or not good enough.
I like my world a lot better, even if I have to put up with people from your world.”
I lived under the same roof with a Christian like that for 18 years so I don’t like to be lumped in with those people. I think they give us a bad name and I don’t think it goes along with the teachings of Jesus. His teachings were about love and being humble and that’s how I try to live my life. Really don’t like when people assume I’m just like the others. From what I knew of Kristina back then, she lived her life the same way. I’m sure, just like me, she’s changed in the last 11 years, but there are certain parts of your core beliefs and values that stay with you and I hope, for her sake that she has kept those. I believe that if a person maliciously kills an innocent child, they should go to hell. But I also believe that God is merciful and will forgive ANY sins IF a person has a repentant heart. I may not understand it, but then again, I don’t have the wisdom to know why God does what He does. I’m thankful for it though.
Jennifer, if this is the case, then I was dead wrong, and I apologize for that part of my comment. I’ve gotten so used to that type of hypocrisy here that I may have projected it onto you – that was a mistake on my part, and I’m sorry.
Thank you. I truly appreciate that. My mom and uncle are like that and it drives me nuts. Everybody believes what they believe because they think they’re right. Who in they’re right mind would believe something if they think it’s wrong? And who am I to say that I am right and you’re wrong? I’m just one of billions of people. I will not be ashamed of what I believe and I will speak openly about it but I will not for one second tell someone they are wrong. The bible says that God gave us free will so who am I to try to take that from someone? Maybe that makes me a bad Christian, but that’s what I believe.
I’m trying to share a little insight into her personality as I knew her back then and a little insight into postpartum depression and what I have been taught about postpartum psychosis. It is a terrible tragedy what happened here and if it was postpartum psychosis, it could have been prevented and Kristina could have gotten the help she needed and who knows, she may have turned out to be an amazing mother…or maybe she’s got some deep-seated issues and this would have happened anyway. I don’t think it’s the latter based on what I know of her personality and the doctors’ diagnoses. I just hope she gets the help she needs no matter what happened in her head and I hope that these tragedies raise awareness of the signs. I experienced postpartum depression and it does something to you. I never had thoughts of hurting my daughter, but I felt emotions I can’t even begin to describe. I can only imagine what psychosis might feel like and how I must feel to come out of it and realize what you’ve done. My heart physically aches and I tear up when I think of anything happening to my little girl. If this is how Kristina is feeling then I think she has suffered enough. Just my opinion.
Postpartum Psychosis is completely different to depression. It has touched my life personally twice within my family & friends. There is no asking for help when you are immersed in it. What can (& should) be done is to educate those close to you to recognise obvious signs/changes following birth.
This was done by my friends hubby & help was immediate. Many years on now (15) my friend can talk about that scary time when she was so out of touch with reality she tried to kill herself & had murderous thoughts about her child.
I have been a long time lurker on this site & would like to congratulate the admin & contributors here. You are are an interesting bunch to say the least! I don’t agree with all of you but diversity is a good thing.
Keep it up!