Comments on: Kristina Fuelling http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/ Your daily dose of evil Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: wingedprincess http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114261 wingedprincess Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:14:31 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114261 Postpartum Psychosis is completely different to depression. It has touched my life personally twice within my family & friends. There is no asking for help when you are immersed in it. What can (& should) be done is to educate those close to you to recognise obvious signs/changes following birth. This was done by my friends hubby & help was immediate. Many years on now (15) my friend can talk about that scary time when she was so out of touch with reality she tried to kill herself & had murderous thoughts about her child. I have been a long time lurker on this site & would like to congratulate the admin & contributors here. You are are an interesting bunch to say the least! I don't agree with all of you but diversity is a good thing. Keep it up! Postpartum Psychosis is completely different to depression. It has touched my life personally twice within my family & friends. There is no asking for help when you are immersed in it. What can (& should) be done is to educate those close to you to recognise obvious signs/changes following birth.

This was done by my friends hubby & help was immediate. Many years on now (15) my friend can talk about that scary time when she was so out of touch with reality she tried to kill herself & had murderous thoughts about her child.

I have been a long time lurker on this site & would like to congratulate the admin & contributors here. You are are an interesting bunch to say the least! I don’t agree with all of you but diversity is a good thing.

Keep it up!

]]> By: Jennifer http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114254 Jennifer Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:20:05 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114254 Thank you. I truly appreciate that. My mom and uncle are like that and it drives me nuts. Everybody believes what they believe because they think they're right. Who in they're right mind would believe something if they think it's wrong? And who am I to say that I am right and you're wrong? I'm just one of billions of people. I will not be ashamed of what I believe and I will speak openly about it but I will not for one second tell someone they are wrong. The bible says that God gave us free will so who am I to try to take that from someone? Maybe that makes me a bad Christian, but that's what I believe. I'm trying to share a little insight into her personality as I knew her back then and a little insight into postpartum depression and what I have been taught about postpartum psychosis. It is a terrible tragedy what happened here and if it was postpartum psychosis, it could have been prevented and Kristina could have gotten the help she needed and who knows, she may have turned out to be an amazing mother...or maybe she's got some deep-seated issues and this would have happened anyway. I don't think it's the latter based on what I know of her personality and the doctors' diagnoses. I just hope she gets the help she needs no matter what happened in her head and I hope that these tragedies raise awareness of the signs. I experienced postpartum depression and it does something to you. I never had thoughts of hurting my daughter, but I felt emotions I can't even begin to describe. I can only imagine what psychosis might feel like and how I must feel to come out of it and realize what you've done. My heart physically aches and I tear up when I think of anything happening to my little girl. If this is how Kristina is feeling then I think she has suffered enough. Just my opinion. Thank you. I truly appreciate that. My mom and uncle are like that and it drives me nuts. Everybody believes what they believe because they think they’re right. Who in they’re right mind would believe something if they think it’s wrong? And who am I to say that I am right and you’re wrong? I’m just one of billions of people. I will not be ashamed of what I believe and I will speak openly about it but I will not for one second tell someone they are wrong. The bible says that God gave us free will so who am I to try to take that from someone? Maybe that makes me a bad Christian, but that’s what I believe.
I’m trying to share a little insight into her personality as I knew her back then and a little insight into postpartum depression and what I have been taught about postpartum psychosis. It is a terrible tragedy what happened here and if it was postpartum psychosis, it could have been prevented and Kristina could have gotten the help she needed and who knows, she may have turned out to be an amazing mother…or maybe she’s got some deep-seated issues and this would have happened anyway. I don’t think it’s the latter based on what I know of her personality and the doctors’ diagnoses. I just hope she gets the help she needs no matter what happened in her head and I hope that these tragedies raise awareness of the signs. I experienced postpartum depression and it does something to you. I never had thoughts of hurting my daughter, but I felt emotions I can’t even begin to describe. I can only imagine what psychosis might feel like and how I must feel to come out of it and realize what you’ve done. My heart physically aches and I tear up when I think of anything happening to my little girl. If this is how Kristina is feeling then I think she has suffered enough. Just my opinion.

]]> By: Max The Cat http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114250 Max The Cat Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:47:48 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114250 Jennifer, if this is the case, then I was dead wrong, and I apologize for that part of my comment. I've gotten so used to that type of hypocrisy here that I may have projected it onto you - that was a mistake on my part, and I'm sorry. Jennifer, if this is the case, then I was dead wrong, and I apologize for that part of my comment. I’ve gotten so used to that type of hypocrisy here that I may have projected it onto you – that was a mistake on my part, and I’m sorry.

]]> By: Max The Cat http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114248 Max The Cat Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:44:58 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114248 Hmmm JENNIFER, seem to me from both your recent posts that you object mostly to the things I had to say. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough when I wrote it, so let me try again. I'm a firm believer that postpartum depression, and it's uglier, meaner cousin, postpartum psychosis are legitimate medical conditions suffered by a small percentage of women after childbirth. Adrea Yates is a perfect example of someone who was not responsible for her actions when she killed her 4 children.They were not murder victims. Was Kristina suffering from PPP? Clearly, not to the extent that Andrea Yates was. But there are some parallels - like Rusty Yates, Nick Fuelling certainly deserved to be prosecuted along with his wife for not protecting Faith Evelyn from Kristina after her first attempt to kill the child. He seems to have been a less than honorable businessman who created much of the psychological pressure that caused his wife to lose it. Does all this excuse Kristina from her responsibility, when she drowned her 8-day-old baby girl. You know what, I don't really care if it does or not. Everyone surrounding this case seems to care only about Kristina's welfare. Poor poor Kristina. I couldn't give two squirts for Kristina or her welfare. All I'm interested in is a newborn baby who never had a chance to live her life. That's what I do, I speak for the victim who could never speak for herself, when folks like you, and Nicholas, and the Judge, and all of Kristina's friends want to forget about her. I know what you'll say - Kristina wasn't responsible for her actions, the doctors said so, so their was no crime, but there's still this inconveniently dead newborn mucking up your happy ending. Someone is responsible for that God dammit! So I won't let Kristina off the hook quite as easily as you want me to, and I won't let Nick and her friends forget about Faith either. I have no delusions that I'm affecting their lives very much, if at all, but when someone like you comes on this website a preaches "forgive and forget", you can bet your ass I'll be there. Hmmm JENNIFER, seem to me from both your recent posts that you object mostly to the things I had to say. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough when I wrote it, so let me try again.

I’m a firm believer that postpartum depression, and it’s uglier, meaner cousin, postpartum psychosis are legitimate medical conditions suffered by a small percentage of women after childbirth. Adrea Yates is a perfect example of someone who was not responsible for her actions when she killed her 4 children.They were not murder victims.

Was Kristina suffering from PPP? Clearly, not to the extent that Andrea Yates was. But there are some parallels – like Rusty Yates, Nick Fuelling certainly deserved to be prosecuted along with his wife for not protecting Faith Evelyn from Kristina after her first attempt to kill the child. He seems to have been a less than honorable businessman who created much of the psychological pressure that caused his wife to lose it.

Does all this excuse Kristina from her responsibility, when she drowned her 8-day-old baby girl. You know what, I don’t really care if it does or not. Everyone surrounding this case seems to care only about Kristina’s welfare. Poor poor Kristina. I couldn’t give two squirts for Kristina or her welfare. All I’m interested in is a newborn baby who never had a chance to live her life.

That’s what I do, I speak for the victim who could never speak for herself, when folks like you, and Nicholas, and the Judge, and all of Kristina’s friends want to forget about her. I know what you’ll say – Kristina wasn’t responsible for her actions, the doctors said so, so their was no crime, but there’s still this inconveniently dead newborn mucking up your happy ending. Someone is responsible for that God dammit!

So I won’t let Kristina off the hook quite as easily as you want me to, and I won’t let Nick and her friends forget about Faith either. I have no delusions that I’m affecting their lives very much, if at all, but when someone like you comes on this website a preaches “forgive and forget”, you can bet your ass I’ll be there.

]]> By: Jennifer http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114245 Jennifer Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:39:11 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114245 The name thing is annoying. I was talking about the comment "But not in your world, right? In your world, everyone marches in lockstep to the same set of rules, because if you don’t, you are somehow less-than, or not good enough. I like my world a lot better, even if I have to put up with people from your world." I lived under the same roof with a Christian like that for 18 years so I don't like to be lumped in with those people. I think they give us a bad name and I don't think it goes along with the teachings of Jesus. His teachings were about love and being humble and that's how I try to live my life. Really don't like when people assume I'm just like the others. From what I knew of Kristina back then, she lived her life the same way. I'm sure, just like me, she's changed in the last 11 years, but there are certain parts of your core beliefs and values that stay with you and I hope, for her sake that she has kept those. I believe that if a person maliciously kills an innocent child, they should go to hell. But I also believe that God is merciful and will forgive ANY sins IF a person has a repentant heart. I may not understand it, but then again, I don't have the wisdom to know why God does what He does. I'm thankful for it though. The name thing is annoying. I was talking about the comment “But not in your world, right? In your world, everyone marches in lockstep to the same set of rules, because if you don’t, you are somehow less-than, or not good enough.

I like my world a lot better, even if I have to put up with people from your world.”
I lived under the same roof with a Christian like that for 18 years so I don’t like to be lumped in with those people. I think they give us a bad name and I don’t think it goes along with the teachings of Jesus. His teachings were about love and being humble and that’s how I try to live my life. Really don’t like when people assume I’m just like the others. From what I knew of Kristina back then, she lived her life the same way. I’m sure, just like me, she’s changed in the last 11 years, but there are certain parts of your core beliefs and values that stay with you and I hope, for her sake that she has kept those. I believe that if a person maliciously kills an innocent child, they should go to hell. But I also believe that God is merciful and will forgive ANY sins IF a person has a repentant heart. I may not understand it, but then again, I don’t have the wisdom to know why God does what He does. I’m thankful for it though.

]]> By: NavyCop http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114240 NavyCop Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:03:59 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114240 What you are doing is taking everything to heart. So what if someone called you "Jenny." That is perfectly acceptable form of the name Jennifer. That's the only thing I'm hoppin' all over. It's not condescending to call you that. What you are doing is taking everything to heart. So what if someone called you “Jenny.” That is perfectly acceptable form of the name Jennifer. That’s the only thing I’m hoppin’ all over. It’s not condescending to call you that.

]]> By: Jennifer http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114235 Jennifer Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:22:39 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114235 What was that about keeping this an adult conversation? If you're not then I guess I won't. I get it, I believe in God and I knew Kristina in high school, so that makes everything I say sound like the Charlie brown teacher. Guess I'll try once more. Maybe I'm not a good Christian because I don't like the Christians that tell everybody they're wrong. I haven't seen Kristina in 11 years, but based on what I knew of her then, I don't think this was malicious. And hey, dontcha think that's why the judge gave her the lowest possible sentence? 2 doctors checked her out and based on their reports, the judge made that decision. Go ahead and jump all over everything I just said. Funny, I didn't say anything derogatory about anybody else's comments (until now), but because I expressed an opinion different from yours, I get jumped on. What's that called? Oh yeah, hypocrite! I'm being a little hypocritical now, yes, but I a can admit it. Can you? What was that about keeping this an adult conversation? If you’re not then I guess I won’t. I get it, I believe in God and I knew Kristina in high school, so that makes everything I say sound like the Charlie brown teacher. Guess I’ll try once more. Maybe I’m not a good Christian because I don’t like the Christians that tell everybody they’re wrong. I haven’t seen Kristina in 11 years, but based on what I knew of her then, I don’t think this was malicious. And hey, dontcha think that’s why the judge gave her the lowest possible sentence? 2 doctors checked her out and based on their reports, the judge made that decision. Go ahead and jump all over everything I just said. Funny, I didn’t say anything derogatory about anybody else’s comments (until now), but because I expressed an opinion different from yours, I get jumped on. What’s that called? Oh yeah, hypocrite! I’m being a little hypocritical now, yes, but I a can admit it. Can you?

]]> By: NavyCop http://pysih.com/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114177 NavyCop Sun, 21 Aug 2011 03:07:36 +0000 http://66.197.131.105/2008/01/23/kristina-fuelling/#comment-114177 No problem-o :D No problem-o :D

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