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	<title>Comments on: Safford Middle School, Vice Principal Kerry Wilson and &#8220;Zero Tolerance&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/04/04/safford-middle-school-vice-principal-kerry-wilson-and-zero-tolerance/#comment-52125</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B.W. It may not be sarcasm. there are parents like that, my uncle was one of them. All he accomplished though was causing her to rebel and ultimately destroyed their relationship beyond repair.  


Parents who have zero trust in their children will eventually pay the conquences (unless they don&#039;t mind not being a part oftheir kids lives when they are adults).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.W. It may not be sarcasm. there are parents like that, my uncle was one of them. All he accomplished though was causing her to rebel and ultimately destroyed their relationship beyond repair.  </p>
<p>Parents who have zero trust in their children will eventually pay the conquences (unless they don&#8217;t mind not being a part oftheir kids lives when they are adults).</p>
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		<title>By: NavyCop</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/04/04/safford-middle-school-vice-principal-kerry-wilson-and-zero-tolerance/#comment-41873</link>
		<dc:creator>NavyCop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I resent that. I&#039;m not an asshole, I&#039;m an arrogant, narrow-minded, sadistic prick. Get it straight, Tony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I resent that. I&#8217;m not an asshole, I&#8217;m an arrogant, narrow-minded, sadistic prick. Get it straight, Tony!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not the publics fault that teachers are under paid. being a teacher is a choice you know it doesnt pay well when you are getting certified to teach, stop using it as a cop out for being assholes like police officers, they have some great teachers that love to teach and make a difference that get paid the same salary. I say all this to say treating out youth and criminals because your frustrated or you feel empowered with your position of authority only will generate a generation of young adults that will always push back against the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not the publics fault that teachers are under paid. being a teacher is a choice you know it doesnt pay well when you are getting certified to teach, stop using it as a cop out for being assholes like police officers, they have some great teachers that love to teach and make a difference that get paid the same salary. I say all this to say treating out youth and criminals because your frustrated or you feel empowered with your position of authority only will generate a generation of young adults that will always push back against the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/04/04/safford-middle-school-vice-principal-kerry-wilson-and-zero-tolerance/#comment-36932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t like &quot;Strip Searching Children,&quot; give up a government service you pay for a private school or a home schooling environment which might reduce your ability to make enough money to provide better schools?

  I&#039;m at a loss.  This case is pretty clearly a failure to think rationally, an administrator that failed to understand his role in education and an administration culture that forgot job one and proceeded to focus too much information on job&#039;s thirty through thirty-four.

  Yes, safety is a key aspect of the education of a child, and it is an almost thankless job where administrators take a great deal of abuse and pressure from parents as well as other administrators and teachers for the failings of their students, but the above is an example of unnecessary DRAMA, spelled out in capital letters because it had no place in a school outside of the endeavors between the average preteen, and not in the hearts, minds and actions of the schools organization.

  I went to public schools, as did my brothers.  We did receive supplemental education from our parents, friends, after school programs, personal interests and eventually publicly funded colleges with scholarships.  I did suffer through a few small disciplinary actions in middle school, the worst of which was what I&#039;d later learn was called &quot;Loan Sharking&quot; where I&#039;d loan kids who &quot;forgot their lunch money&quot; a dollar to pay for lunch or buy an extra cookie.  The next day I was owed that dollar and a quarter.  If they forgot it an additional day, I was paid two whole dollars for my initial investment of a dollar, on the third day.  If the third day failed to get a return on my investment, I complained to a teacher, and tried to get my money back.  A teacher caught me, explained what I was doing was extortion, sent me to the principal&#039;s office, and after the principal talked to I and the student I was extorting, our parents were called and I got the grounding/punishment of my young life.  It was made clear to me that what I had done was a crime, punishable by law.  I was clearly told that if I did it again, my parents would pick me up at the county jail.  It sunk in.  I didn&#039;t loan money anymore.  The exact same solution could have been used here.

Ibuprofen &quot;can&quot; be dangerous.  It&#039;s for adults to administer.  You bring all of the girls involved to the principal&#039;s office, tell them that it&#039;s wrong because the school is liable for their safety and that next time they&#039;ll be forced by the law to call the police.  The first time it&#039;s simple ignorance that the children involved should know was wrong.  Their parents have been called and urged to handle this to the degree that they&#039;d handle a bad fight or the bringing of another piece of contraband to a school.  Send the girls home for the rest of the day, see them back in class again the next day and send home a letter to all other parents explaining school policy--roughly the same thing they do for lice or as a reminder when the kid who grows up on a farm brings his pocket knife to school by accident and gets 10 days OSS. 

Reenactment of a scene from the Shield or the Wire, with little girls playing the crack dealers and prostitutes isn&#039;t the solution.  The solution is also not sending all of the kids to private schools or home school for everyone.  The solution is reasoned approaches to daily living that take in the education of the student as the primary goal of any non-violent disciplinary action.  If there was a missing gun, a vial of cocaine or some other unlikely substance.  Call the parent and call the police.  Despite all tendencies to the contrary as well as several songs still sung by young children, schools are not prisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like &#8220;Strip Searching Children,&#8221; give up a government service you pay for a private school or a home schooling environment which might reduce your ability to make enough money to provide better schools?</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m at a loss.  This case is pretty clearly a failure to think rationally, an administrator that failed to understand his role in education and an administration culture that forgot job one and proceeded to focus too much information on job&#8217;s thirty through thirty-four.</p>
<p>  Yes, safety is a key aspect of the education of a child, and it is an almost thankless job where administrators take a great deal of abuse and pressure from parents as well as other administrators and teachers for the failings of their students, but the above is an example of unnecessary DRAMA, spelled out in capital letters because it had no place in a school outside of the endeavors between the average preteen, and not in the hearts, minds and actions of the schools organization.</p>
<p>  I went to public schools, as did my brothers.  We did receive supplemental education from our parents, friends, after school programs, personal interests and eventually publicly funded colleges with scholarships.  I did suffer through a few small disciplinary actions in middle school, the worst of which was what I&#8217;d later learn was called &#8220;Loan Sharking&#8221; where I&#8217;d loan kids who &#8220;forgot their lunch money&#8221; a dollar to pay for lunch or buy an extra cookie.  The next day I was owed that dollar and a quarter.  If they forgot it an additional day, I was paid two whole dollars for my initial investment of a dollar, on the third day.  If the third day failed to get a return on my investment, I complained to a teacher, and tried to get my money back.  A teacher caught me, explained what I was doing was extortion, sent me to the principal&#8217;s office, and after the principal talked to I and the student I was extorting, our parents were called and I got the grounding/punishment of my young life.  It was made clear to me that what I had done was a crime, punishable by law.  I was clearly told that if I did it again, my parents would pick me up at the county jail.  It sunk in.  I didn&#8217;t loan money anymore.  The exact same solution could have been used here.</p>
<p>Ibuprofen &#8220;can&#8221; be dangerous.  It&#8217;s for adults to administer.  You bring all of the girls involved to the principal&#8217;s office, tell them that it&#8217;s wrong because the school is liable for their safety and that next time they&#8217;ll be forced by the law to call the police.  The first time it&#8217;s simple ignorance that the children involved should know was wrong.  Their parents have been called and urged to handle this to the degree that they&#8217;d handle a bad fight or the bringing of another piece of contraband to a school.  Send the girls home for the rest of the day, see them back in class again the next day and send home a letter to all other parents explaining school policy&#8211;roughly the same thing they do for lice or as a reminder when the kid who grows up on a farm brings his pocket knife to school by accident and gets 10 days OSS. </p>
<p>Reenactment of a scene from the Shield or the Wire, with little girls playing the crack dealers and prostitutes isn&#8217;t the solution.  The solution is also not sending all of the kids to private schools or home school for everyone.  The solution is reasoned approaches to daily living that take in the education of the student as the primary goal of any non-violent disciplinary action.  If there was a missing gun, a vial of cocaine or some other unlikely substance.  Call the parent and call the police.  Despite all tendencies to the contrary as well as several songs still sung by young children, schools are not prisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t like it, pay for a private school....or better yet, home school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like it, pay for a private school&#8230;.or better yet, home school</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M. Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M. Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public schools are now just training for jail</description>
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		<title>By: Kay Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the school had cause to search the student, but not without notifying the proper (and trained) authorities first, as well as the student&#039;s mother. In failing to follow this logical procedure, the school Vice Principal merely brought this lawsuit upon himself and his fellow employees.

No child should be searched in such a manner, especially without their parents notified and nearby.

No child should be searched in such a manner, especially by adults not trained to such a search.

No child should be searched in such a manner, especially not without the child being first notified of his or her rights and options.

To frighten and humiliate a child in such a manner is both unprofessional and unethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the school had cause to search the student, but not without notifying the proper (and trained) authorities first, as well as the student&#8217;s mother. In failing to follow this logical procedure, the school Vice Principal merely brought this lawsuit upon himself and his fellow employees.</p>
<p>No child should be searched in such a manner, especially without their parents notified and nearby.</p>
<p>No child should be searched in such a manner, especially by adults not trained to such a search.</p>
<p>No child should be searched in such a manner, especially not without the child being first notified of his or her rights and options.</p>
<p>To frighten and humiliate a child in such a manner is both unprofessional and unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Leavell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Leavell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The admin involved in the strip searching should be jailed for child molestation case closed. I don&#039;t care who you are, but if you are in a position to be a Vice Principal of a middle school you damn well better have more common sense than that. I would like to punch this guy in his face actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The admin involved in the strip searching should be jailed for child molestation case closed. I don&#8217;t care who you are, but if you are in a position to be a Vice Principal of a middle school you damn well better have more common sense than that. I would like to punch this guy in his face actually.</p>
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