Brandy Williams And Shaun Simpson
It takes a big person to beat up an 8-year-old girl.
In the case of 27-year-old Brandy Williams and her live-in boyfriend, 28-year-old Shaun Simpson, it took two big people to beat up a little girl – Brandy Williams’ 8-year-old daughter.
On the 16th of April, 2008, Brandy Williams was notified that her daughter had been suspended from school. Exactly what this girl had been suspended for, we don’t know. We do know that when we were 8, nobody got suspended. Maybe school is different now, a little rougher, but 8-year-olds still shouldn’t be getting into enough trouble to get suspended.
Either way.
Brandy Williams sort of…flipped out…when she found out about her daughter’s problem at school. Brandy Williams ordered her daughter to bend over a bed and proceeded to whip her daughter with a belt at least 12 times on her rear end and upper back part of her legs.
As you can imagine, the little girl didn’t take her beating well and tried to block some of the strikes with her arm, which didn’t go well for her and bruised up the girl’s left arm noticeably.
You can bet that this whole experience hurt Brandy Williams’ daughter more than it hurt Brandy Williams.
School officials at the girl’s elementary school would probably agree with that statement, which might be why they called the police when they saw the extensive bruising on the girl.
The police arrived and saw that, yes, the girl had gotten the crap kicked out of her. Further questioning of the girl revealed claims that her mother regularly hit her, both with her fists and objects around the house. The girl also claimed that Shaun Simpson had thrown her against the wall.
Over to Brandy Williams’ apartment the police went, pens in hand for an interview with a druggie mother that would undoubtedly be an interesting one.
When interviewed, Brandy Williams admitted to whipping her daughter with a belt. She responded to the allegations of hitting her daughter with a hanger by first denying it, then claiming that it was just a small plastic hanger and that it was two weeks ago, not that past Saturday. Oh yeah, Brandy also sat on her daughter a few times to keep her from acting out.
Shaun Simpson saw no problem with freely admitting that he’d thrown the girl against the wall. Hey, she was kicking and pushing away from him while he tried to check her over for bruises. What do you expect?
Shaun Simpson and Brandy Williams were both arrested and face charges of child abuse. Shaun Simpson was on the police radar even without this incident due to his outstanding warrants for drug-related stuff.
Yay for parenting.
Do Brandy Williams And Shaun Simpson deserve Hell?
- Yes - both of them (83%, 315 Votes)
- No - neither (9%, 36 Votes)
- Yes - but just Brandy Williams (7%, 26 Votes)
- Yes - but just Shaun Simpson (1%, 4 Votes)
Total Voters: 381
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Mommy: (to the little girl) Come here now!
Little Girl: Yes
Mommy: Who told you to go to school and do what we do here at home?!
Little Girl: (crying) I didn’t know. Honest, I didn’t know!
Mommy: Don’t lie to me! Why did you do it?! Tell the truth…
Little Girl: Because I saw it done here at home. I learned from your example and from the adults that you keep company. This isn’t 100% my fault. You should spank yourself and change your ways. Look at yourself first mommy before you strike me down! You aren’t exactly a role model.
i know these people you are trashing! your little screen play couldn’t be further from the truth! how dare you judge these people you don’t even know!
Thou shall not judge! tisk tisk!
Listen loser….I don’t give a flying fu(k that you know these trash bag losers…it is not ok to beat your children. Thou shall not judge? Not in the bible retard….Aren’t you late for how to beat my kids and justify it meeting with your friends?
I’d like to whip these people with a belt. Thank gawd the little girl didn’t die like most of these children who are abused and beaten. F you two. You deserve hell.
didn’t die r u serious? Die from a spanking? Are you high on crack?
Have you ever read the king james bible?
Spare the rod and spoil the child!
Check it out some time!
News flash the media lies so ass holes like you read there stuff!
Way to go sucker!
Listen Rachel you stupid little dipwad. There’s something going on here from the beginning of this little girl’s inception. Children aren’t born to be little devils. It’s a learned behavior or lashing out so that they can express their emotions the only way they know how.
Spare me the bullshit about your interpretation of the bible. Your writings are contrary to it. I’m not recalling Jesus beating any children.
I, and 8 other siblings were the recipients of corporal punishment. My older brother & younger sister killed themselves because of just that. So, yes, children die from it and I am not high on crack. The rest of us have no contact with the bastard (biological father) that inflicted it.
You start teaching your children from birth. I have never ever hit my girl. She’s an honor student and has given me no grief. That’s not because I’m lucky. It’s because I’ve always told her that she has a voice, a responsibility and there are consequences.
So, screw you with your Neanderthal thinking!
Hugs.
Ok now were onto the bible thing. Spare the rod and spoil the child comments get me majorly pissed. In bible times they had shepherds. Those shepherds had rods. The rods were not used to bash the shit out of the sheep everytime they wandered from the flock. The rod was to gently give the sheep a nudge and guide them back to where they were supposed to be.
There is a difference between punishing a child and disciplining a child.
When you discipline a child you teach it. Not hurt it.
When you punish a child you inflict hurt.
I was raised with the whole spare the rod spoil the child bullshit. Dont try and tell me that it doesnt damage the child.
A smack on the bum can do wonders…note i said A SMACK. Not numerous smacks. whipping your child hard enough to leave bruises and smashing her against a wall goes WAY beyond discipline.
GOD SOME PEOPLE ARE ASSHOLES.
Rachel, you stupid bitchface
how about i come and sit on you?
how about i whip you repeatedly and get even more abusive when you try to defend yourself?
better yet, why dont you go fucking die?
the world doesn’t need your bullshit, and jesus DOESNT LOVE YOU.
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
– Proverbs 13: 24 (KJV)
Never meant to beat the kind half to death, or maul the kid int he process.
Hey Jerry, I was just talkng to Jesus on AIM, and he told me to tell you what you can do with that rod of yours. Then he said something like “Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” Then he took the little children up in his arms and put his hands upon them and blessed them. He didn’t say anything about whupping them. I raised 2 daughters without ever putting a hand on either one of them, and they both turned out pretty good, if I do say so so myself. So screw Proverbs, screw the Old Testament, and, well, what the hell, screw you too.
But this is what reading this ancient horse shit in the Old Testament leads to – vicious beatings. Strange you Christians never actually seem to listen to what Christ actually said. There is nothing about hitting anyone in the Gospels afaik, least of all children. Oh he did lash out at some money changers – as should we all LOL.
I got whipped with a belt a few times. I didn’t die. It isn’t pleasant though. Sort of makes you want to beat the parent that did it to death in their sleep. Or maybe that was just me.
Well by the looks alone these two SURELY aren’t be parents of the year! To sit on a KID! COME ON! I’m guessing she knows she has a weight problem and thought that it would “teach her kid a lesson”. and why is he checking her for bruises? WEIRD! I’m wondering what else he was doing to her?
Both should be beat with hangers, sat on, and whipped with belts! My guess is the kid got suspended probably from acting out due to a POOR home life!
okay i am going through you poor misguided sheep one by one!
of course they are not parents of the year! who is? just because he has dreads and she is fat? what a schmuck!
YOUR COMMENT : and why is he checking her for bruises? WEIRD! I’m wondering what else he was doing to her?
you sick fuck thats the first thing that came to yer sick mind! Just because some loser with no life runs a website say something that must mean its true right? oh just like no one ever in our government lies right?
Mindless!
the kid got suspended from school because she had no fear of consequences!
Rachel, you are a bitch.
Who gives a rip why she got suspended. Parents taught her how to act. Kids mock parents (most of them) so it is learned behavior but it sure as hell didn’t warrant her to take a beating.
Your friends are worthless cow patties.
He needs to stop being to lazy to wash his hair, get rid of the dregs and shave it so then he could wash his face and hair at the same time. Trying to look Amish and hippy at the same time is he?
She needs to get a grip on her anger and stop hitting her child.
Let’s NOT forget to teach her to stop sitting on her baby… oh, wait, the King James Bible doesn’t say anything about sparing the fatass and spoiling the girl, or whatever.
Please crawl back into your little hole, Rachel, take care to drag your knuckles behind you.
The stuff this little girl was subjected to is pretty harsh, but I dare say no harsher then what my folks got when they were kids.
Except the sitting on your child thing, and throwing against a wall.
I got beatings with a belt on a regular basis myself, on my bear butt to boot….
Not that I have EVER done that to my babies, mind you. A swat on the butt over their jeans, and I was pretty sure it hurt me more then them…
well your not to bad! just to let you know the media tends to exaggerate things a bit ok a whole hell of a lot!
getting spanked for every little thing is not okay! This kid we are talking about didnt get spanked over some spilled milk here, this kid has never seen a belt before this day! her mother didnt sit on her friggen head or any of that other bull! I know these parents and they dont deserve this treatment just so some ass running the sight can get some ratings!
this mother has been through hell with this kid! and this mom is devastated that her kid isn’t with her today! I would be celebrating my ass off if i was her she acts like this kid is gold! ( sorry Brandy if you read this but she is a shit! )
Rachel, if you EVER become a mother, I swear to god himself i will hunt you down.
:-D
Trace your parents whipped you with a belt 12 times in a row and threw you against a wall?
Or did they maybe whip you with a belt one time?
Come one 12 times in a row is unacceptable. That is child abuse!
I don’t believe in hitting it’s negative and the only thing is does is teach your kid to hit. Your a product of your parent.
bull shit! i’m not a product of my parents!
spanking you kid is not child abuse!
That kid has never seen a belt before this and she should have!
new for ya sweet heart this article you chose to respond to is a bunch of bull!
I know these people and i truly beleave this is a blessing in disguise cuz that mom needs help with her child!
oh r u on of those moms that stuffs there kids full of cookies to get them to behave?
when a kids bad what do you do stuff them full of pro sac!
hooray for the modern day mom!
Look at this woman’s writing skills. Just shows you the level of intellect common to people that think a kid needs a good beating with a belt. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rachel was in a full set of dentures before age 30.
Good call! :)
(oh, my favorite line was “pro sac”
…as opposed to anti sac? get a fucking job, Rachel!)
Personally, i wouldn’t be so proud to know ANYONE who ends up here, no matter waht you may think of them, we think they are worthless trash that should be taken out to the heap. A spanking where I am from is a bare hand to a butt, NOT a belt, clotheshanger, or any other such implement. Also, throwing a child into a wall for ANY reason is NEVER ok, unless the only reason you’re doing it is to protect them from a greater harm (ie- bullet, knife, broken glass, ect., ect.)
It said above that the live in had priors for drugs. Is this how you know them? Dope heads do tend to run in packs and defend thier own….
Actually, of all the blithering, bleeding heart bs that you’ve posted there’s only one thing I can agree on: The Mom NEEDS HELP….not with the kid, just in general. If you know her so well, perhaps you could take her to the shrink and stay for the sessions, because anyone who supports people who abuse thier precious angels needs thier heads checked too!
Lets just hope these two POS were caught before this girls life was taken away. Thank you to common sense teacher who reported the problems. If more people would speak up for these children, we might find less children being killed. Let this be a lesson, one phone call about a child who’s bruises didnt add up to their story could change their life. God help these children, they need someone to look after them. i myself have called CPS on someone before, and I beleived it saved the boys life. He is now in a better home, his education has improved, and his social skills are exploding. On anothe point, the parents of the little boy, also decided to get counsuling, and rethink their parenting methods. The boy was not returned to them, but they have other children, so hopefully they are learning to treat them better.
wow thats pretty shity for the kid! but in the case of these two parents CPS cant wait to give them back there kid because the parents are the only ones who want to deal with her! this kid was not beat first off! the media has to get ratings some how! who wants to read about a kid getting spanked for getting suspended after family counciling , positive reenforcement, grounding, juvenile hall scare and all the numerous methods they have tried over the last 6 year failed!
I got a better idea lets just pump her full of prosac that will fix her!
She she was a shit since she was 2? “For the past 6 years?” Maybe they should have been good parents then and she wouldnt be like that. Hilarious.
“she was a shit since she was 2″ Does that remind anyone else of the South Park episode featuring Stan’s Dad trying to get into the Guinness book for the biggest shit? And we find out that Bono didn’t hold the world record….He was the world record shit!
Yes I too got it with a belt and yes it was bare ass, as MANY others did too! Which is why they put child laws and corporal punishment laws into place. There is NO NEED for a hanger, belt, object, or fat person sitting on you. PERIOD!
hey stupid there is no law that says you cant spank your kid!
how is it that parents cant spank there kid (and no this kid wasnt beat her head wasnt sit on or any of that other bullshit! ) but parents can spank there kids in order to get them to comply but if a police officer gives you a command and you dont comply the get to beat your face in with a billy club?
If you kid is fuckin up and you have tried every tactic you can possibly think of (and we are not talking about normal bad kid stuff like coloring on the walls or spilling things on the floor here) it is you parental duty to put a stop to the destructive behavior!
i see these bastard kids walking around like they can do what ever they want! If there is no fear of a consequence whats to stop them?
Your parents are not meant to be your friend they are meant to teach you right from wrong!
ps ass this story is a crock of exaggerated bull shit anyways!
You just dont get it, do you?
Times have changed, dickweed. Beating up ANYONE, regardless of whether they are “yours” or not, is SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
How about we listen to the poor kid when it comes to what she went through. I don’t see you sporting massive bruises across YOUR body.
If your parents are good people, they shouldn’t have to resort to such inhumane measures to get their point across.
These sick people, and YOU, are what’s wrong with the world.
I’m just really glad I don’t live in America.
Some parents take their frustrations out on their children.
That makes children ready-made punching bags of anger release.
The following are some things that would send some parents on edge:
Boss yelled at you at work – come home and beat the child(ren).
Idiot cut you off the road – come home beat and the child(ren).
Your paycheck is a few days late – come home and beat the child(ren).
You are deep in debt – come home and beat the child(ren).
You lost your job – come home and beat the child(ren).
The welfare office rejected you – come home and beat the child(ren).
Your family doesn’t respect you – come home and beat the child(ren).
Your utilities and/or electricity have been cut off – come home and beat the child(ren).
You received an eviction notice – come home and beat the child(ren).
On and on and on…
what about in this case:
kid throws her desk a cross the class room because her teacher wanted her to do her school work.
kid keeps steeling from every one around her and mom has to pat her down every time they leave some where.
mom get called out of her class every day because kid doenst want to be at school.
or mom takes kid to juvenile hall because she stole and kid kick detention officer in the face.
or kid spits in moms face because mom took a sucker from the kid she stole earlier from the store.
or mom has to get rid of cat because kid keeps locking cat in closet, cat keeps shitting in closet, kid has to clean it up for punishment so kid in return kicks the cat because she got into trouble!
mom grounds kid, mom takes kids toys away, mom takes kid to shrink, shrink just want to give kid drug that derive from meth, mom trys bribing kid to be good, mom tries reasoning with kid, kid intentionally gets suspended from school because she doesnt like school work , mom tries everything but spank kid, kid has no fear, kid gets what she wants, kid get step dad fired, kids mom is a student who is failing because she has to go sit with her 8 year old at her school to make sure she behaves, mom gives child numerous warnings kid gets spanked!
FINALLY! sorry lady abused kids dont get warnings abused kids get spanked for all the little shit you named above! that has nothing to do with there behavior!
this kid was not abused i know these people and i m personally responding to all these posts on this bogus ass report because i know what i have seen and these people dont deserve this crap!
hey the media lies to get ratings you ever think of that?
Sounds to me that mom should have startd a long time ago making her mind.
You can’t wait til they are 8-16 thinking they will grow out of it.
She acts that way because they let her!
Hey Rachel it sounds like the kid was acting out because of SOMETHING. Maybe she was being molested, who knows. There has got to be a reason she was doing all the stuff you mentioned above.
Spelling, Rachel, spelling, grammar and punctuation. Need I say more? Please don’t spew your “ig’nance” all over this thread…
This isn’t quite on topic but it’s the most recent post so I thought I’d put it here. Can you stop writing the person’s full name over and over again through the whole text, it was funny the first time but now that its a pattern it’s just distracting. It was so much funnier when you called then things like “this upright citizen” and “this fine looking young man”. Anyway, that’s my two cents
admin – I’m not your trained little monkey, dammit. I swear to GOD the next post will be nothing but the guy’s name OVER AND OVER.
Don’t make me come over there.
there’s a purpose to that, the names of these people are now burned into your retina, if you ever see their names anywhere else, you’ll recognise them instantly, don’t you think that’s a good thing?
Better yet, when people put the name in a Search Engine, the word density for the complete name bears a higher weight on the page.
It’s been quite effective, yes.
PYSIH often makes the first or second page of the search results.
Good strategy.
Yes! I warranted a personal response from the admin! My mother will be so proud
Could I maybe help these people to Hell?
Pretty please?
This woman obviously should have never had any children. Kids are going to act up once in a while, the key is not to beat them and throw them around like rag dolls. This fat slob should have been ecstatic that someone even wanted to pro-create with her, she should have treated that kid like gold… also, BTW I agree Turtle in that she probably was suspended for hitting a kid because that is what happens to her at home… I hope this little girls has SOMEONE with a brain who can take care of her now…
little miss wow yeah normal kids act out by coloring on the wall or sneaking into the fridge! i know these people and the have the patients of a saint when it comes to that kid! i would of whopped her ass long before this point! and thats the kids problem! hey guess what cps is sending the kid back home you wanna know why because know one else can deal with her! and two this report is a bunch of lies any ways!
though shall not judge tisk tisk!
and of course someone actually a lot of men want to procreate with her she has a good personality unlike a mindless gull able sheep like your self! who fucking beleaves in the medias shit anyways dont you people know better?
Go back to school and learn to spell.
LOL@This fat slob should have been ecstatic that someone even wanted to pro-create with her.
*…even with somebody else’s dick…* :P
TurtleMania- YES, that. Doing what you’ve been taught.
I’m going to guess that the little girl got in trouble for fighting. She was probably defending the loser adults in her home because her schoolmates said they looked like crackhead whiggers.
Who the fuck hits people that they love?
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I like the repetiveness of using full names throughout the posts. For whatever reason it’s being done. It reminds me of how, when you’re in trouble as a child, your parents lecture you using your whole name. I call my children by all four of their legal names when I’m miffed at them.
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hey jack ass maybe your stupid ass kids who repeat what they see because they are to stupid to figure these things out on there own! but this kid we are talking about is was to smart for her own good! she was getting suspended from school intentionally because she didnt want to go to school! wow would a real abused child rather be at home with the bad bad mommy or at school away from mommy?
damn r u people really that stupid to beleave what the media says? I guess so!
“No! Mommy, you’re angry again.”
“Please don’t hit me and hurt your hand again.”
This morning I started to think how life would be if we had prospective parents get licensed BEFORE they could have children.
That’s right; parents would be required to take a series of test before they could legally have kids.
We’d have baby workshops and forums and prospective parents MUST attend or else.
I’m tired of reading about child abuse. This is ridiculous! What is this world coming to?
I 2nd that Turtle! I think getting a “parents license” is a GREAT idea!
hey you read all these reports about child abuse because most of the time they are exaggerated by the media douche bag!
hey i have been attending the court case on this one the parents actually have been going to play therapy whit the kid since she was 2! the kid got issues! media spreads lies and your a gull a bull fool for buying it!
hooray your a jack ass!
Only a real pansie needs an object to spank their children.
A real parent can share in the pain they deal out.
I am including my parents in the pansie list as well.
I spanked my daughter when she was younger, with my hand!
id swear that these two pictures have been used before – generic white trash.
Fred, I think I understand.
But this POS whore, sat on her daughter’s head!
And her Rasta-wanna-be boyfriend threw the child against the wall!
It was all in a days work for assholes.
lol awww mommy n daddy hurt yer bum bum! you spanked yer daughter before with yer hand oh that makes it better! wow what a hypocritical bastard you are!
i know these people and the kid has no fear! the first time she got the belt and i sorry but this kid would laugh in her moms face if she got spanked with the hand! you judge mental piece! they r white trash huh looks can be deceiving i know i know!
didn’t you parent ever teach you not to judge a book by its cover? oh wait all they taught you is how to be a whinny bitch!
And obviously, YOUR parents never taught you how to spell.
How did the child build up such an immunity to fear and pain? Maybe through continued abuse?
I wonder what happens when you take half a fake Rasta boy’s dreads and tie them to a bus going south and the other half and tie them to a bus going north?
Let’s find out.
wow way to be a douche bag? since when do only rasta have dreads? wow way to go little lamb you just follow the high and mighty media the all seeing truth! hey dip shit the media lies!
We have real, dinkum Rastafarian communities in South Africa. People who are not should not grow dreads, it’s disrespectful.
Eh, I dunno. People who are not Mohawks grow mohawks… people who are not Skinheads are bald… people who are not African have afro’s… Heck, people who are not monks have tonsured heads and I don’t hear God screamin’ about it! Why should a hairstyle matter at all? It’s mah hair! I wanna do what I wanna do!
On the other hand, if I was living in a community where my hairstyle actually DID mean something significant, I would abide by the community’s expectations because it’s stupid and unfair to do otherwise. Hair really doesn’t mean enough to me to matter… of course mine is AWESOME! ;)
Hi Lauren! Been enjoying your posts! Welcome to PYSIH!
I hear you, Becky, I was just weighing in to be a little obstreperous. :)
I used to have awesome hair, too, but I gave it all to CANSA. Now I have a mullet, in spite of the fact that I’m not a postal worker.
at least the cops and cps actually did what they were supposed to this time around
actually they are liars and as the story unfolds they look more and more like jackasses! its pretty funny you should come down to the court house and watch some time! its amazing how the media is allowed to lie and not have to verify there sources! i knows these people and the child i’m so glad this happened because brandy needs to realize her daughter has problems that she alone can not fix!
Amazing how everyone (media & cops) are liars but good ole mom and dad.
I am sick of reading “I know these people, they are good people” bull fricking crap, if they were so good why the hell would they even whip her for getting suspended? That is a lie and you are getting on my last fricking nerve.
wow where did you get you facts from? you couldnt be more wrong about this hole situation!
Fact: the child was NOT severely beaten!
Fact: Shaun didn’t touch the girl ever! brandy would of ripped him a new asshole for sure!
Fact: The child you are talking about is by no means and angle!
Your quote: Maybe school is different now, a little rougher, but 8-year-olds still shouldn’t be getting into enough trouble to get suspended.
Fact: the child got suspended 5 times in less than 2 months because she didn’t feel like doing school work she has thrown her desk across the class room for gods sakes! She has kicked a corrections officer in the face! This child steels on a daily basis, This child hits her mother, This child has spit in her mothers face,This child has never see a belt before. Thats probably why she acts the way she does! I am sorry but if any of you have seen what i have seen this child do and if you have seen the way this couple has dealt with this child with you would think they had the patients of a saint! I would have whooped my child long ago!
I go to school with brandy and she was called on a daily basis to pick up her daughter. I am at their house daily and you have no clue how this child treats her parents!
this has been going on since the child was 2 years old!
Brandy has raised her on her own 100% for the last 7 years of that childs life.
Brandy has lost jobs and has had to drop out of two schools.
Shaun is the only man who has ever taken responsibility for that child witch is not his!
hey news flash : children, media and cops do lie!
If you are all so concerned why dont you follow the story, go to the court hearings its open to the public! Find out the real truth!
i promise you you will feel like a jack ass!
but you won’t!
By the way your so called claims of brandy being a druggie are a crock of shit she has passed ever drug test since this whole ordeal including a hair follicle test! And shauns so called drug related offenses last time i checked an open container ticket is by far drug related!
you know last time i checked lying was a sin so i guess we’ll be seeing you in hell!
Wow, obsess much there Rachel? You must be family – who else responds 15 times to 22 posts, the last of which was made a couple of months ago.
To quote Shaekespere, “Me thinks the lady doth protest too much”
Max
Just shows you that the parents suck. They should have had the kid taken away long ago.
And you say that the kid should have been spanked? Grow up
Sounds like a job for Super Nanny.
You know, at first glance this story looks pretty harsh and hardened but after reading all the responses and what Rachael had to say, it’s obvious that she knows these people.
I can’t say too much about this one because I too have an unruley child. She is 13 now but her problems began when she was about 3. I’ve always had problems with her and yes, kids can do things at 8 to get them suspended. Schools these days have a No Tolerance Policy where if they walk funny, they’re suspended. My daughter has been suspended on numerous occasions and just recently expelled. She does a lot of the things that Rachael said this girl did to her mother. I’m not taking sides here and saying that what this mother did was right because I wasn’t there. I’ve had to sit on my own daughter to restrain her from hitting me. She has swung belt buckles at my face and spit in my face. She has also assulted her grandmother. She steals from the grocery store and every word that comes out of her mouth. Yes, she has been diagnosed as a cleptomaniac and compulsive liar. She’s never been beaten or molested or anything like that, just very rebellous. Last November, I spanked her too hard and left a bruise across her butt and the state took all three of my kids because she said I beat her on a regular basis (with is NOT true) regardless of the fact that my 14 year old and 7 year old told CPS my daughter was lying. I got my other kids back and allowed my then 11 year old to go live with her father because, I too, have lost many jobs because of her behavior.
So if what Rachael is saying is true, I do understand what it’s like to have a child like that. All the while, there’s no excuse for abuse and the law really limits how to punish your own child. If you spank too hard and leave marks, you’re fucked. If you don’t spank at all and they act out, there must be something going on at home. WRONG!
It’s quite embarassing all the way around.
I am not so sure that I would call these parents abusive. They may be somewhat ignorant, but belting a kid is not really abuse in my opinion. I personally never hit my child, and I don’t like hitting, but think of how many people were belted just a few generations ago – most of us would not classify ourselves as “abused”. A leather belt or the back of a hairbrush applied a few times across the ass was not uncommon even in an upper middle-class home. And even bare-assed was not eyebrow-raising. . I really don’t know when it went from “common” to “abusive”, but I still feel like the parents have the right to decide how to discipline their kids. Even if it’s not how I personally would do it.
Sitting on the kid, and shoving the kid into a wall is a bit over the top, but it seems like maybe some parenting classes would be more appropriate for these people – I don’t think they need hell.
I know that when I was a kid, KNOWING that I was gonna get a belt over my butt when my dad got home kept me in fear all afternoon. Not that the belt really hurt – it stung pretty much – but the anticipation was horrible. And it was a damned good reminder to not do whatever it was that I had done, again.
Maybe thats one of the problems with our society. Maybe if more kids learned that “your gonna get it when your Dad gets home” anticipation, there would be fewer criminals?
They should make it so that if your kid is a problem child, they go to Boot Camp, free of charge.
Send them away to learn some military style training. It’s a shame nowadays that the camps want tuition. Most parents with problem children struggle with bills, what makes you think they can afford these camps for kids?
There should be an adoption rule that if your kid is giving you problems you dump them for adoption no questions ask. They need to do this if you can’t and aren’t allowed to kick your children’s ass.
But the current laws won’t let you give the kids up so you are forced to deal with it on your own and get jail time if you are too violent. And like someone said if you don’t kick ass then they walk all over you. Something has to be done. Change these stupid laws.
I tried that with my daughter and they wanted $12,000. up front. Not very feasible for a single mom.
The boot camp….not the adoption thing. LOL!
My ma used to get at my bottom when I didn’t fly straight. If I tried some of the shyt she did, I’d be on this webpage.
But I didn’t turn out to be a nutjob POS. So I think what ma did was justifiable. I was a hard-ass coming up as a young lad. And I am SURE if she didn’t put her foot down I’d have tried to dominate her.
In these days, I’m scared as hell to have children with these BS laws. Really.
Thats a good idea, Turtle. Really good!
When we were kids, the bad boys ended up in military school. I remember one of the the closest ones to DC was Valley Forge, PA. It definitely straightened the guys out, but the parents paid an awful lot.
So – lets get some serious hardcore military-style schools available to every kid who wants it – or who’s parents want it. And make the parents sign a waiver that the school can use any (reasonable) form of discipline, AND that the parents will not remove the children until the end of the school year.
Maybe even offer it to the kids who are just starting to get in trouble. The ones who are not yet into the juvenile system, but are starting to get attention…
Wow! Thats really is a damned good idea! Thanks!
And Rachel – you seem to have some heavy anger-management issues. Seriously. I hope that you learn to control that before you have children of your own. (You might want to take a few remedial English classes too. )
Considering Brandy’s middle initial is R, I’m wondering if Rachel and Brandy are one and the same….
Let me get this straight:
This little girl, who is 8, is such a terror that her mother tried anything and everything to bring her under control and finally only a beating with broken bones was what she was forced to consider reasonable?
Now, we are supposed to believe that this little girl is such a hellion that DCFS is giving her back to the mom, because noone else, not a single trained professional can control her?
Okay, I think it’s time for a little reality check here.
1. If a child is as far out of control as you state then DCFS would petition the court to place her in a Juvenile Facility with lock-down capabilities and doctors to help calm her through the use of medications until they figure out what the problem is.
2. They do not give a child back to an abusive parent who has beaten it as severely as these 2 beat this little girl just because the child is a brat. Will NOT HAPPEN!! Got it.
Now, since we are down with all of these Bullshit lies, can we get back to the real issue at hand. That is deciding upon a suitable hell for Brandy and Sean.
Brandy & Shawn, since the two of you find such pleasure and joy in beating small children we have a very wonderful prize package for the two of you. I want you to keep these little facts in mind:
1. Adult Human Body has 206 Bones
2. There are 360 Joints in the Human Body
3. There are 22 organs in the human body plus skin, eyes, ears and so on.
Keep track of this, it will be on a quiz shortly.
Now, your daughter is 8 years old. This is important also, as there are 2922 days in an 8 year period.
1. Daughter is 8 years old
2. Has been alive 2922 days.
3. Brandy was struck at least 12 times with a belt.
4. Brandy was beat at least once with a hangar.
5. Brandy was at least once shoved into a wall
6. Brandy was sat on at least 3 times.
Now we do the math to determine your punishment.
Bones * Joints * Organs * age * days alive * belt strikes * hangar * wall * sat on = the number of times we will strike each of your bones with a 50 pound sledge hammer.
206 * 360 * 22 * 8 * 2922 * 12 * 1 * 1 * 3 =
1,372,982,814,720
Yes, that’s over 1 trillion hits per bone, Gawd is this going to ve fun. Glad the legs and hip have large surface area, but this will be pure hell on your backs!! Oh, the headache.
Funny Danger Zone
Six years ago, when i slpit with the father of my three youngest children( the dead beat, dope smoking, womanizing, wanker) I moved with the five kids to a new town. This meant leaving behind friends. Their dad never tried to see them. God, even when i delivered them to his door for a visit, he would stand them up.
Anyways, all the change and uncertainty at that point in our lives affected the children. All reacted in different ways. My oldest, who felt totally rejected by his step dad, and hated the new school, new house etc, ect started to act out in a big way.
All his anger was aimed at me. I had left his step dad, and i had moved them away. At six years of age, that is all he saw.
He was angry and he would yell at me and swear at me. He even went as far as copying his step dad and called me things like whore, cunt, slut. He would hit me. He would hit others. He would trash his bedroom and climb out the window when i sent him there for time out.
I was at my wits end. I KNEW that this was NOT the normal behaviour of my beautiful son. I also KNEW that he was suffering, and that he was trying to express that. So did i beat him? Did i scream and yell at him and throw him against the wall? NO.
I got him help. I went to our Doctor and got a referral to CAAMS ( child mental health) and organised for him to get councelling. For a time they put him on medication. They said he was very traumatised by the life changing events he had endured and was suffering from depression.
When he lost his temper, i would hold him in my arms, tell him how much i love him and reassure him that although things were hard now, that they would get better.
I did this out of love.
There were times, when i wanted to slap him fair across the face. Times i wanted to shake him. At those moments i would walk outside and go a few rounds with the punching bag.
There is no excuse for the way this woman and her boyfriend treated that girl.
This is exactly the way you should act Amy, as a responsible adult who understands that sometimes even us parents have to take a timeout.
At least they didn’t torture and kill her like most kids mentioned on this site.
Okay, I am going to put in my two cents worth. My son is very hard. He is very sweet most of the time but he is also very stubborn. When my son was two, it was like he went to bed happy and woke up angry. Nothing had changed. My husband and I hadn’t split up, there were no new children born, he hadn’t switched daycares, in fact everything from one day to the next was exactly the same. He went from obeying reasonably well to having me have to hold him from hurting himself and others whenever he got upset. There were some nights that I had to hold my son very tight for hours on end in the same position. I was told by countless therapists and doctors that I had to “win” these ordeals or else he would keep pushing me. He became very belligerent and there was no talking about it. I know what it is like to feel held captive by a two year old. I know some people are thinking that I am exaggerating but I am wholeheartedly saying that was the worst year of my life and I am a good mom, at least I would say I am. The whole time that I was holding his arms together and indian style my legs across his I would be crying but knew that there was no other way because he would bite, kick, scream, and hit when he was in this mood. I had never spanked him, kicked him, bit him, or anything remotely close to this. This was a behavior that he was using to tell me how he felt. I let it go on for a long time, longer than now looking back that I should have.
I believe that a child should feel the need to express his/her self but there are limits. Getting expelled from school is not a reasonable way to express yourself. Hitting, kicking, and biting other children is not a reasonable expression of self. I believe that spankings are called for. I do not abuse my son but he knows when he gets a spanking with my hand that he has crossed the line and when he gets a spanking with the belt that he has crossed the line so far over that he had better heed the first warning. I do talk to my son after the spankings and if there is a need to explain the spanking I do so that he does not think that I am a dictator but he does understand that I am to be respected and that I have rules for a reason.
When my son was going through his awful time, nothing else worked. When I started to spank for misguided feelings, he started to think that maybe there was a better way to express himself. I believe that every child has a different method to handling them. For some timeout is enough but there are children out there like my son that it takes a strong willed person to outdo his strong will. I will also tell you another method that works for me. I have a pretty big yard and when my son gets especially mouthy I make him run it until he is out of energy to mouth me. Now given he is not out there for hours and it doesn’t happen very often but I have to be creative with my son. I know some people would call this child abuse but I am not here to be my son’s friend. I am his parent and that means instilling morals and ethics into him even if he doesn’t want them. I am not mean or too hard on him but I do have limits and he knows them. I respect my son and he knows that I expect the same from him.
I will say that the day that my son got off the bus and told his whold bus to suck it in wrestling sign language that he did get a belt across his bare hiney and you know what? He hasn’t even thought about doing it again. My son and I are very close and that is because I have boundaries. If I allowed my son to walk over me what respect could he give me?
I believe that there is a fine line between child abuse and discipline sometimes but I absolutely believe that the difference is respect. My son has seen me during spankings cry because it truly does hurt me. I am not mean or cruel when I am dishing out punishment. My son knows at the end that I would rather he obey then to ever have to spank.
I am a firm protector of children and diffently believe that child abusers should go to hell but I am unsure that these people are child abusers. I believe that sometimes a child does lie as I have often seen it in my son. Should you spank a child on the arm absolutely not, but for those out there that do spank have you ever had your child move out the way you ACCIDENTLY hit the top of their leg instead, possibly this could have happened in this situation. Throwing a child against the wall is never acceptable but I would need more information before I could judge them. I think that this may be a close call and not necessarily abuse.
Hey “Rachel” I also know these people, very well actually, can pretty much guarantee better than you, and have personally witnessed Brandy beat the shit outta her kid with more than a belt. Shaun on the other hand is a good guy I’ve know him since I was a little kid and I don’t believe for a second he intentionally hurt her, unless Brandy rubbed off on him which I wouldn’t doubt, she’s an evil manipulative bitch. And I also know Shaun was not the only man that ever cared for Samantha who wasn’t her father, thats complete bullshit! I can name one person who was there a hell of alot longer! Samantha is a terror, I’ve babysat her many times, but she’s a kid and I believe one hundred percent she learned from example.
You personally wittnessed Brandy beat the shit outta her kid, and you did what about it? Did ya smack her in the head and tell her to stop being such a bitch Did ya call the police? Did ya call CPS? Did your mate Shaun do any of the above? Or did you both sit back and let it happen and think, “not my problem.” Yeah, you and Shaun are soooo much better than Brandy…
Oh yeah Amy, a couple of prize turkeys there.
Pot, please allow me to introduce you to the kettle.
What bullshit! If you saw her beat her kid and you did nothing, then you are a sick fuck.
And if you believe that decent people can be coerced into hurting another person, then you are a stupid sick fuck.
Do you seriously think that child abuse is like a game, where someone can encourage another to come join in? No. If people join the party, it’s because they want to. NORMAL people would be revolted by seeing a big fat slob hurting a kid. They would get the fuck out ASAP and get the kid help.
I said earlier that I wasn’t so sure that the parents were abusive. But you have convinced me that maybe they were. Maybe this is more than just “bad” parents – maybe this is “toxic” parents. Good job supporting your friends.
(Can I change my hell vote?)
What a fucking dumb bitch. When my mum used to belt the shit out of me with the jug cord, I wasn’t allowed to go to school until the injuries had healed. That way you get investigated for not sending your kids to school but atleast no thinks you’re a child basher. We may be stuck in a world with monsters like this but we can atleast pray that they’re all as stupid as this one so they get caught sooner.
I hate those fucking jug cords…and the garden hose. That hurts like all shit…
If the garden hose is employed correctly, it should leave no marks. Thus the kid can go to school the next day with no evidence.
Anyone flogs there child with hoses, straps, electrical cable, canes etc is a sadistic child abuser – you deserve to do time you pig.
A spanking should never leave marks. A spanking is meant to teach a lesson, not leave emotional and physical scars.
These people get off on inflicting pain on helpless children. They’re so inadequate and such incompetent parents that it makes them feel powerful. Plus there’s often a sadistic sexual element to their pleasure.
I called the cops, but without proof or marks, the cops basically told me there was nothing I or they could do. Brandy was never a “friend” of mine and I WAS sickened by what I saw and did everything I could do to prevent it from happening again, she’s had CPS at her place more than once. I don’t think you people realize how horrible the law enforcement is here, they didn’t do shit. I do believe that people are effected by their surrounding, and if you don’t then you are a “stupid fuck”. I didn’t witness this specific incident. Had I, I would had done something about it, just like I attempted to every other time.
This rings true.
We all know that CPS is often a pitiful government waste of money that seems to be hellbent on destroying good families and protecting shitty ones.
Okay, this white trash whore, her FUGLY boyfriend, and the ill-tempered, hugely illiterate Rachel should all get into a dingey little boat and sail the fuck away. Hopefully to some hideous end. Sorry, I’m too grossed out to be creative.
But seriously… I got a beating from my mother when I was 9 that left bruises shaped like her hand all up and down the backs of my legs, ass and upper back, so I say from experience, that yes… this is 100% abuse. If you are leaving BRUISES that last for days, that is the very definition of abuse. If they had left bruises on the little girl’s face there would be no question. I got the beating because I watched t.v. @ the babysitters when I was grounded, and I couldn’t answer with certainty how many times the babysitter had said it was okay for me to watch t.v. before I defied my grounding. My mom was also twacked out on coke at the time, and I beleive it affected her ability to control her impulses. This looks very much the same to me. And if Mr./Ms. Shitballs is to be beleived, then this was a matter of a child exhibiting aggression as a learned behavior. AKA the kid is acting out @ school because she’s getting beat up @ home.
As for spanking, well, I am not above a smack on the hand, or a swat on the bottom, for something very dangerous, such as playing with the electrical socket covers, but I find that restriction is much more effective. I could never beat/bruise my child, or any other.
@Rachel: if you manage to navigate yourself back to this page, there are wonderful phonics programs that can help you learn to read and write. They start @ pre-K levels and work their way up. Please locate one and use it before you start a fight on this forum. There is a bevy of intellect amongst the regulars here, and you are only embarassing yourself.
Just summarizing here — Rachel is a hillbilly idiot who is wrong; most of the other posters are right.
alright, i’m kinda torn on this. i have a hellion for a brother, and he started early like that too. he was probably six when he got kicked off the school bus, he tortured and teased our dog until it snapped and dragged him across the yard, and my mother had to shoot it to get it off of him. we have had people bust in our house because he wanted to call them a racial slur. he has stolen from the age of 5, and was in detention for most of his young school career. they spanked him in school once, with my mother holding him down. i cant rightly decide if he was having problems cuz he was spanked often, or he was spanked often cuz he had problems. i was spanked too, but i learned my lesson. we have had a peice of board, ping pong paddle, flyswatter, hanger and switches but i turned into a decent person, my brother is still struggling though. my mother tried to get him help, he was in counseling for a long time, and she tried to take him to a behavioral center but they wouldnt take him because they didnt deem him a threat to anyone (even though he had already punched a teacher and had been in several fights at school). if my mother spanked him after awhile, she would get in trouble. he eventually ended up in juvie and suspended from school for carrying a switchblade to class. my mother got threatened with the cops after she took a switch to my brother for huffing (inhaling/smelling) gas to get high. so in this case, if its to be believed that this was a trouble child, i dont know what to say. if these people just wanted a punching bag, then shame on them, and express lane to hell
“Further questioning of the girl revealed claims that her mother regularly hit her, both with her fists and objects around the house.”
Sounds to me like the just wanted a punching bag..
I believe in a spanking IF it is absolutely called for. I also think that it is wrong to use anything but your hand to give a few swats on the butt.
There is no need to grab objects or use your fist to beat on a child.. None at all.. Anyone who does so is just taking their anger out on that child and not trying to teach that child discipline. There is a thin line when is comes to child abuse, and when you cross over to taking your anger out on the child, that is child abuse.
“Brandy Williams ordered her daughter to bend over a bed and proceeded to whip her daughter with a belt at least 12 times on her rear end and upper back part of her legs.”
This woman abused her child.. No adult should ever give out a spanking like this.. ever. The bitch was angry and took her anger out on her daughter.
Hitting children – whether you call it spanking or whatever – is about inflicting pain, right? When you hit your child you teach them that the ones they love will control them with pain and that violence and rage are acceptable ways of resolving problems. These are both terrible notions for a child to get hold of deep in their emotions. There are plenty of alternatives to hitting. Many parents have great kids and do not use corporal punishment. Which means it is about parenting skills. If you have to hit your child then you have poor skills. Learn some new ones.
let’s hear it for teenage parents.
Ok, time for justice, Lillith style:
I order that the egg donor and her equally worthless live in are both sterilized for obvious reasons, attend 1,000,000 hours worth of parenting classes, write “I will not hit children” on the blackboard 1,000,000 times, oh, and they are to have thier asses beat by two much larger people every day for the rest of thier miserable exsistance.
I feel sympathy for any precious angel who has to suffer for any reason, but at least this one was saved! God bless all those who intervened before another angel went to Heaven. Perhaps Heaven was full that day?