We here at People You’ll See In Hell love e-mail. We get so much of it, and so much of it is…well…like this:
Hello,
I noticed you have on your website a list of people and their offenses. I am writing to request that you remove the references to “Brenda Thiel” on your website. The American justice system is founded on the belief you are innocent until proven guilty; it goes without saying Brenda Thiel is thusly innocent of all charges. I’m sure you understand that we don’t want any defamation of character, but posting this page simply states that she is in fact guilty of the crime for which she hasn’t yet been indicted. I am directly representing the family in these matters, and would like to get this resolved without taking further actions. I have no problems with your site, or any of the content posted here, just trying to keep us all honest. If she is found guilty you may say whatever you like about here, but until then . . . Please feel free to respond to this address with any further inquiries.
Most Sincerely,
Matthew E. Puhl
Web Developer
Interactive Web Design
interactivewebdesign@gmail.com
And of course, the great thing about e-mail is the fact that you can reply. Like this:
Hello,
I noticed that you have a problem with our article on Brenda Thiel. While we appreciate your concern with ensuring the American Justice System runs as it should, we would like to take this time to point out that that we are not, as far as we know, trying Brenda Thiel’s case. We would also like to point out that Brenda Thiel, who worked in the Winnebago County’s Child Welfare Division, is now a subject of interest to the media, due to the seriousness of her charges and the odd nature of same. Because the crime that Brenda Thiel has been accused of is being reported on and written about through a large number of media outlets, such as this, this, this one, this one over here, this one, and this one - and because we consider ourselves to be a media outlet (albeit a silly and tasteless one), we respectfully refuse to remove the references to Brenda Thiel from our website.
We also would like to take this time to make fun of you.
The American Justice system was not founded on the belief that you are innocent until proven guilty. If it was, we would not have the bail and bond system that is in place, because everyone would be free, free, free to walk around until the prosecution managed to prove their case. In fact, nowhere in the United States Constitution does it explicitly state that presumption of innocence is particularly important. Presumption of innocence is really only one interpretation from the 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments. It would be more correct to say that in the American Justice system, you are “not guilty” until found “guilty,” especially with the word “innocent” being so fraught with moral connotations.
Seriously, you sound like a complete moron when you say:
It goes without saying Brenda Thiel is thusly innocent of all charges.
Brenda Thiel stated to police that she killed her son Caleb. Brenda Thiel told her mother that she had hurt Caleb. Brenda Thiel went into a great amount of detail about why she killed her son Caleb.
While People You’ll See In Hell cannot try and convict Brenda Thiel, we can put her story in front of the court of public opinion and allow the opening of a discourse about religion and how it can negatively affect both its practitioners and those around them. We can also allow people who are interested in Brenda Thiel’s story to see how other people feel about the situation, through the polling system in place on our website as well as through the comment system on the website.
Most Sincerely,
admin
Administrator
People You’ll See In Hell
admin@pysih.com
I run a website that profiles cases of missing people, and many times people have threatened to sue me as a result of what I say on my site. In one case a non-custodial mother abducted her child and disappeared. She was later arrested without the child and held without bail on kidnapping charges. I posted all this info on my site. Her attorney contacted me threatening to sue me for defamation of character because I called the woman a kidnapper!
I told him to fuck off. I never heard from him again.
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people will try (and usually fail).
posting assumptions can be illegal, posting facts cannot. the admins are the prodecution, we’re the judge, jury and executioners.
it’s a good thing our rulings have no bearing in the real world (i think)
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DualDenz reply on May 14, 2008:
whoopsy!
i hate typos! prodecution should of course be prosecution……
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Very well put response :) lol.. *sigh*
These silly people!
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Matthew, it’s ok, it’s ok.
Come here to my open arms..awww.
Can I pee on you?
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ROFL @ “I would now like to take this time to make fun of you”
Win
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One set of attys wants to shut us up, another set for a fee will defend our right to do whatever we want.
Boo-Hoo some peoples feeling are hurt. For the most part, stories are picked based on the merit that these people have done something.
Also many of these stories are followed up with stories about their day in court. Given the speed of our court system (who is denying the right to a speedy trial here?) many stories are not immediately followed up.
I hope this atty goes nowhere, attys like this are dangerous if they become politicians because they pass laws aimed at righting past wrongs in their life, not looking at the big picture.
Many times their motive is revenge, and it scares me to know that our government, Senate and House are looking to regulate the internet. So much for free speech! Also they are looking for ways to tax it - as if the internet has not generated enough money
1. I own a website, and I pay taxes on the service
2. Additional traffic means additional fees means additional taxes
3. Sales tax on all the computers..
4. Al the people employed because of the net
a. income tax
b. business taxes
c, sales taxes (companies are consumers as well)
Internet postage amounts to King George III’s Stamp Act.
While there needs to be some regulating, the Internet has its own bodies for that! But then again our crustations in the Senate and House can not stand the idea that a group of people can lead and regulate themselves while cooperating with outside authorities! We have done so! Now we must pay the penalties of success = TAXES!
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Guys not even an attorney, at least it doesn’t look like it to me.
“Matthew E. Puhl
Web Developer”
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Thank you for providing his email addy.
I just sent him a picture of a turtle.
Matthew –
Turtles don’t lie and pretend to be something they aren’t.
Turtles don’t lie Matthew, and from what I hear, you’re related to Brenda Thiel.
When you look at a turtle, you see a turtle.
But you are nothing but a poser.
You can’t save the world wearing a padded bra.
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I have been addicted to this website for a few months now and I’ve never posted a comment before but…..I was just curious if anyone noticed comment #12 on Brenda Thiel’s post? His name is MIKE Puhl and he seemed pretty irrate about her being posted on here. Maybe it’s the same person that sent this letter and he is just messing with admin….anywho…..I LOVE this website btw!! It has made me look out for people and point out the freako’s and not being so trusting. Go PYSIH! :)
admin - Eh, I don’t care one way or another whether it was the same person. Could be two idiots in the family, I don’t know. I was wondering when someone would catch that, though.
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TurtleMania-
First, congrats on another superb mention of you peeing on someone!
Secondly, I hope that whatever picture you sent of a turtle to this POS was particularly ‘turtle-y’.
Because all the turtles I’ve personally known were very capable of getting a ‘look’ that let you know how far from turtledom perfection you were. Kind of like a cat. But without the fur. And a bit crunchier.
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“I am directly representing the family in these matters, and would like to get this resolved without taking further actions.”
“Matthew E. Puhl
Web Developer
Interactive Web Design
interactivewebdesign@gmail.com ”
This busted me up. So what exact actions could this ‘representative’ of the family take?
To create a ‘website’ against Admin?
I’m guessing Admin is just shaking in their boots.
Funny how every kind of worthless POS manages to try to drum up some business by adding all their non-related business links.
I’ve changed my mind. I don’t think the POS is a POS anymore, I think they’re a publicity whore.
And, no matter how much it bothers anyone, I’ll change my opinion of Brenda AFTER she isn’t proven innocent. Like it or lump it. I’m not on the jury, and I have the right to be logical and partial about who I deem to be a POS.
Hello? Common sense. I’ve taught my children that the best way to never be accused of anything is to not put yourself in any position where it might be likely. Don’t hang out with losers. Don’t do iffy things that will end up biting you in the ass.
I can’t be the first person who’s noticed that most of the people who end up being exonerated for a crime actually had an extensive criminal history– they just weren’t guilty of THAT particular crime. Kind of like the drunk drivers that only get caught after having driven drunk 50-5 million times.
God, I love it when morans think that listing their ‘qualifications’ or business info somehow makes them an expert or a legal player in any context.
Gotta love the stupids!
c
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Matthew E. Puhl is a fool and an idiot.
No body with a brain would hire a murderer lover like him
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