We have to admit, we’re a bit flummoxed about the situation involving 20-year-old Jeremiah Raymond Berry and his 42-year-old father, Jack Berry.
They both did things which, in other circumstances, would allow People You’ll See In Hell to put their name up in lights, detail their crimes and allow our readers to vote on whether or not they’re Hell-bound.
But when Jeremiah Berry, who did some admittedly grisly things to Jack Berry, was actually a victim of his father’s lust…
We’ll let you decide.
On the 19th of Febrary, 2008 Jeremiah Berry and his father, Jack Berry, were out transporting sheep. Jeremiah and Jack Berry were taking the sheep to a sheltered canyon for a while. This was something they did on a regular basis.
At one point, Jack Berry turned to his son, Jeremiah, and told him:
I’ve been told by God that you need to get a sex change and become my wife.
Whoa.
That’s a kind of “out of the blue” sort of statement right there when you’re out with your son transporting sheep. After a great deal of thought, People You’ll See In Hell would like to submit to you that there are several other situations where that comment is inappropriate:
- While standing next to another man in the restroom and using the urinal.
- While checking out at the supermarket.
- While discussing with a loan officer the terms of your loan.
- During the middle of a class lecture.
- While being written a ticket by a friendly police officer.
Yeah, pretty much any of those situations would not call for you to tell someone that they needed to have a sex change operation so that they could become your wife. Frankly, we would have a hard time coming up with a snappy response to that statement, especially if it came from any of our fathers.
While we do not know what Jeremiah Berry told Jack Berry in response to this, Jeremiah Berry has told the authorities that Jack Berry raped him right then and there.
Raping anyone is bad.
Raping your relative is worse.
Raping your son?
Hell!
He’s also told the police that after being raped, Jack Berry told him that he wanted to take Jeremiah into the mountains and make him his girlfriend. Jack also threatened to kill Jeremiah and his family.
And yeah, it’s kind of weird that Jack would say that he wanted to make Jeremiah his girlfriend at that point because Jack Berry had already made Jeremiah his girlfriend, but oh well - that’s Jeremiah Berry’s story and he’s sticking to it.
Jeremiah Raymond Berry is also sticking to the story of how he dealt with Jack Berry raping him.
Jeremiah Berry didn’t seek counseling. Jeremiah Berry didn’t call the police. He didn’t go on Oprah. He didn’t move away and vow to never see his father again.
No, Jeremiah Berry pulled out his pistol and shot his father, Jack Berry, in the back of the head.
That wasn’t enough, of course. Jeremiah Berry also stabbed his father 199 times with a knife (I guess he decided 200 was just too much) and used an ax to chop Jack Berry up into his component parts.
The head had to go, along with the hands and feet.
With the knife, Jeremiah Berry skinned Jack Berry’s corpse. The flesh was fed to the coyotes, which is highly illegal. You aren’t supposed to feed coyotes.
After finishing with the mutilation of his father’s corpse, Jeremiah Berry carted the body parts out of the canyon over the next few days. He used five-gallon buckets.
The tools he used to chop up his father, along with the gun he used to kill him, were thrown into a river.
A portion of Jack Berry’s remains - his head, his hands and his feet - were stored in a storage room at a local dog kennel. The other parts were being searched out after Jeremiah Berry confessed to police on the 29th of April, 2008 about what he’d done.
Jeremiah Berry has been charged with second degree murder. Portions of Jack Berry are currently fertilizer. Other parts of him are in custody.
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Is there any evidence to back up Jeremiah’s claims of sexual abuse and threats by his father, besides his own account?
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As far as I can tell, no. But there’s been a gag order placed on the case, so who knows?
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Fucking crazy shit!
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TurtleMania reply on May 19th, 2008:
This kid is a MACHINE! Awesome!
I’d like to wait to hear the rest of the story, though.
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Thats one hell of a tale to make up, if even 1/4 true I amazingly think the father had it coming.
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Hey! It’s Keanu Reeves’s twin brother! lol
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Wow.
I have not voted on this one yet. I have yet to vote no (except the hot lesbian teacher sex things) on this site, but I am so close to it right now, I need to stand back.
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Yes - but only Jeremiah Berry (2%, 1 Votes)
LMAO!
Neo took it up the ass and one person wants to send him to hell; without his dad even?!
Just add insult to injury please…
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If that story is even half true, daddy deserved to be chopped up.
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I’m getting a bit concerned about God’s mental stability. He should consider seeing a doctor.
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You know, if Jeremiah held his sphincter tight(probably hard to do after getting it in the ass by daddy) and gone to the hospital to get a rape kit he may have had some evidence. Twenty years old and no defensive wounds? No fight? Any previous complaints of sexual abuse?
Did daddy have the money to get his son a sex change?
Did son want a sex change and dad had some life insurance?
This story has too many questions.
On the other hand, to do that….Hmmmm.
Something is wrong with the good old son.
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A reply on July 29th, 2008:
I was and am still married to Jack and his son by far is coming up with the weirdest story ever. I don’t believe a word of it and he should be ashamed to make his father out to be a person like that. If raped which he was not, he should have went to the hospital and the police not hacking him up into pieces. Ridiculous!
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SlimPickins reply on July 29th, 2008:
Now isn’t that something. I think I’ve seen it all now. Weren’t you on another thread bragging about going to 20 or so gynecologists just to get felt up?
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A reply on August 1st, 2008:
Yeah that’s cute. Grow up!
jeremiah's mom reply on August 5th, 2008:
Wow hav’nt heard from you in a while angie!!! This is jerry’s sister, so now you claim to be my dads wife huh tell me then is it right to fuck other guys while your married cause as far as i know that would make you a whore but thats what you’ve always been… you know you hav’nt even heard from my dad in years and i remember i asked what happened with you guys and all my dad could say is “Dont you ever talk about that dirty whore again” And its funny that you say your still married to him because hes been married and divorced i don’t even know how many times after you. You were just another whore on his list…
You don’t know what really happened while we were growing up until the day jeremiah hacked my dad up into pieces.
So why dont you just shut your mouth about jeremiah and my family…
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A reply on August 11th, 2008:
That’s cute! We are not legally divorced so I seriously doubt he was legally married to anyone else. Oh by the way, I did go have coffee and sit with your dad for about an hour last year and I will be filing the divorce. Another thing is he slept with my friend and that caused us to split so before you go on about something you know nothing about I suggest you get your facts straight. Your whole family is wacked. I am so glad to have gotten out of it when I did. Anything else you got to say to me?
Mazzi reply on August 11th, 2008:
*blink*
Isn’t Jack the dead guy? And isn’t Jerry (Jeremiah?) the son who killed him?
So, Angie claims to be married to the dead guy, who is married to someone else as well? And now she is going to divorce the dead hacked up husband?
Wait - now Jeremiah’s mom claims that she is also Jeremiah’s sister, and that the guy who fathered her son, is her dad too?
Are they from West Virginia by any chance? And, do any of them have any teeth?
(PS - no actual West (by God) Virginians were harmed in the making of this post.)
jeremiah's mom reply on August 12th, 2008:
I already said what i needed to say but i guess you’ve done to much crack to get it through your head. You were just another whore on my dads list… You dont know my family so SHUT your mouth and keep your fantasies to yourself. Your just making a fool out of yourself.Now get that through your head and im done talking to you.
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A reply on August 12th, 2008:
Keep making false accusations about me. i will file a report against you and your family. You know nothing about me and how great my life is. I am not going to get into a childish game with you. Letting you know you and your family keep making statements about me to anyone I will file charges against all of you. Now I am done!
jeremiah's mom reply on August 13th, 2008:
Yeah you dont like when people talk shit about you, exactley my point dont talk about my brother, my dad, or any of us keep your comments to yourself!!!!
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On another tip…Why your son when you have all those beautiful sheep?
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heyyou reply on May 20th, 2008:
Maby they were ugly sheep.
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if this is true, Jeremiah was mercyfull if you ask me. at least he shot him in the head before stabbing him a bazilion times and cutting him to pieces. i say he should’ve refrained from shooting him (but only that)
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“I’m getting a bit concerned about God’s mental stability. He should consider seeing a doctor”.
WIN!
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Of course, I’m just bitter because god always wants to talk to everyone else.
And, if he did, it’d probably be something lame, like “Choose the Grape-Nuts over the Shredded Wheat, because the Grape-Nuts are, well, just plain nuttier!”
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On another tangent- WTF herds sheep anymore? Or would want to? With their dad?
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I’ll go out on this politically incorrect limb and say that sonny-boy looks to me like he was already on the transgendered path way before Daddy got all wifey with him.
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No mention of the wife/mom, eh? I’d like to know what HE has to say, lol.
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Honestly,
I think jail time and counseling is in order.
I’m not sure that I want Neo back on the streets again.
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I couldn’t help but laugh while I read this horid story. Very well written and desrcibed.
http://www.pysih.com - Putting the fun back in funeral!
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Jack should have had a species change on one of the sheep - much easier & more socially accepted these days. Also if successfull I am sure that Oprah would have paid some $$$ for this couple to be on her show.
As far as Jeremiah sounds like he had to shoot the bastard, but once dead, leave it at that - can’t make someone any more dead…
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so that’s like a Dr Phil intervention on Saw meets Hostel meets Texas Chainsaw Masacre with a little bit of I dunno….That Gacy clown guy…you know who I’m talking about.
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You are obviously all sickos with a twisted sense of humour…but the worst thing is, you are making me laugh so much my sides are hurting !! ROFL :-) (Do you think that says anything about me ?!! ROFLMBO)
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About the stabbing after the shooting… like Forest says–”Sometimes there just aren’t enough rocks”
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Honestly, I think Jeremiah was justified. I’d say it was in self-defense, because his father was completely and utterly fucked up, and Jeremiah prevented any further abuse by eliminating him once and for all. Who knows who else could have been victimized by his depraved father?
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There is only ONE thing I can say while reading this article: wonderful! (Not in some psychotic way, but like, half sarcastic and half surprised)
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as for all of you sick idiots who are leaving your stupid coments, you have NO idea what we have gone thru. We are good people and are doing our best to live life in this sick world and all you can do with your time is judge what you dont know and will never know. So please, thats if you have anything else better to do, keep your comments to yourself until you can fully understand what is going on. Then your comments will change I gurantee. I would also like to thank all the people who have been very supportive with your prayers, thoughts, and empathy. It is very much appreciated. Your support has given us hope and that there are some good people left in this world.
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TurtleMania reply on July 12th, 2008:
Will you cut me into Rice Krispy squares if I speak against your clan?
If so, then please forgive me.
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SlimPickins reply on August 1st, 2008:
If she won’t I will. Rice Crispy squares are awesome.
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Max The Cat reply on August 13th, 2008:
Yes. Yes they are.
Wow, so do guys believe this hillbilly family feud thing going on in this thread between ‘jeremiah’s mom’ and a ‘reply’. Our little corner of the internet is becoming quite the gathering place
Mazzi reply on August 13th, 2008:
I tried to sort out that soap opera up there - but it’s still clear as mud.
Apparently the victim was a womanizing slug. And apparently some woman still wants to lay claim to him even though she is going to posthumously divorce him for screwing the pooch (JOKE!!!!! - he screwed her friend).
Alls I kin say iz inbreedin iz bad!
If this story is even remotely correct, then this boy was 100% justified in what he did. Well, at least the shooting part. The stabbing was a bit much. All of the transporting and hiding of the body was also a bit much. I wouldn’t convict him, if I was on the jury.
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That’s the thing tho mazzi….there appears to be no evidence of his abuse. It’s pretty easy to say daddy loved a lil too much….after you turn him into hamburger helper!
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I think jack got what he deserved. Jerimiah did good shooting his dad square in the head. And stabbing him up, I know I would, I’d be pissed! But I also think that Jerimiah did 150 (ehem, 149) to many stabs, and cutting him up and feeding him to coyotes like that is terrible. They both deserve hell but Jerimiah deserves it less.
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An1mal reply on August 9th, 2008:
That is one of the reasons why i think they both deserve hell. Again…no evidence to say he was abused or not…granted if there was evidence…well i couldn’t blame him for however many times he chopped chopped chopped. But just because jack says he was abused….after the fact…doesn’t make it so.
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Your web site and article is an absolute embarrassment to Jerry, Jerry’s family, his friends and to the town of Cortez! I would appreciate this article coming off this website. I personally know Jerry, his sister’s and Rita his mother. I went to high school with him and his sisters. I would like to say Jerry is one of the most loving and caring individuals I know! A vegan, he would bring me fresh eggs to school from his chickens. And even found a home for my cats that I couldn’t take when I moved. None of you know him like some of us! Jerry would buy sick animals from livestock auctions and nurse them back to health! Jerry knew by giving the animals love they would love him back. He had a farm of animals that included, emus, goats, pigs chickens, sheep, cats and dogs. All the money he worked for he put into his animals. Jerry is an individual that has been hurt 20 years of his life! And has already served his time! AND ANOTHER THING! GOD FORGIVES! GOD SEES ALL, GOD SAW WHAT JERRY WENT THROUGH. AND HE HAS FORGIVEN HIM. THINK YOU’RE NOT GOING TO HELL FOR POSTING SICK SHIT ON THIS SITE? I’LL PRAY FOR ALL OF YOU. BECAUSE YOUR GOING TO BE STUCK IN PURGATORY! The family doesn’t need to be getting on here and reading senseless bullshit that’s put up here for entertainment. This is our reality! Be thankful your not hurting!
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SlimPickins reply on August 14th, 2008:
Shut up, bitch.
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jackofalltrades reply on August 14th, 2008:
May he burn in hell.
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Mazzi reply on August 14th, 2008:
Damn. I kinda sympathized with Jerry. Your stupid tirade makes me want to root for hell though.
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jaded_hart reply on August 22nd, 2008:
I just love how the murderer is forgiven but anyone posting a comment is going straight to hell. Gotta love that type of logic (or is that anti-logic?) Priceless.
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Shannon Marie Downie - perhaps you do not understand that every crime has two aspects to it. There is the crime against the victim, of course, and then there is the crime against SOCIETY.
The prosecuting attorney represents the STATE, not the individual victim. As members of society, we are all considered “interested parties”
That means, dear ignorant one, that WE are all somewhat “victims” of whatever criminal action(s) took place between Jeremiah and his father.
And, as “interested parties” we certainly have the right to discuss it, to form opinions on it, to speculate on it, etc. This is exactly why anyone can come into the courtroom and watch any trials, or can view any documents that have been filed in most cases.
As much as you might like it to be a private matter within the family, it is not. If you don’t like reading about it, then why don’t you grab your bible and log off this site?
Oh yeah… and which is it? Are we going to hell or purgatory? Because you sound like you think they are the same place, which sounds kind of like you really don’t know as much about religion as you are pretending to.
As I have told others - don’t bother praying for me. MY God is apparently a different one than yours. He won’t be pissed off at me for asking questions or even for cussing out dumb fucks. And the coolest part is? I don’t have to prove anything to my God by quoting bible phrases or parroting stuff that other people tell me to believe.
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Shannon Marie Downie,
Since you know Jerry, his sister/mom and they family, Could PLEASE straighten out the soap opera story line for us? The characters are as follows: 1. Jack (the dead guy, Jerry’s dad and Jerimiah’s mom’s dad) 2. Jerimiah (Jerry / butcher) 3. Jerimiah’s mom (Jerry’s mom as well as sister) 4. Angie (Jack’s wife who hasn’t seen him in years but will divorce him now that he is Sheperds Pie) OK set us straight from this point PLEASE!
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You people don’t understand! there is a gag order! When it is lifted! Shit is going to come out that you only hear of in horror movies. Jack Berry put Rita and the children through hell. This has been going on since the kids were very little. Rita divorced him when she was 26! Jack was abusive to the whole family. And there are very gruesome details I am not allowed to talk about because of the gag order and I am loyal to my friends. The police here in Cortez know of the details. It will come out. Jack Berry was a very sick individual! The monster is where he belongs! Jerry had alot of pent up anger from what was done to him and the family since he was little. And I don’t blame him. He snapped. He couldn’t take anymore abuse. And knowing jack was going to possibly kill the family. He couldn’t take that. And he wasn’t about to let that happen. Jerry did what he had to do. I know Jerry saw his father as a monster. I know that night in the dark after he was raped he thought, “this is the last time.” Our parents are suppose to be our protectors!
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Mazzi reply on August 14th, 2008:
I still have sympathy for Jerry, and as rude as you are, your story rings true.
My feeling from the beginning was that this is not the “typical” spoiled-kid-kills-dad-for-grounding-him case.
It was the “overkill”. That means something psychologically. The hacking up and carrying off of parts was for convenience of disposal. But the stabbing was more personal. Especially after the dad was already dead.
That kind of “overkill” is a sign of rage. Severe, hardcore rage. And that kind of rage is either caused by extreme psychosis, or from an otherwise “normal” person snapping.
No one can tell for sure from a picture, but Jeremiah has an aura about him that looks almost gentle. He definately does not have the look of a psychotic (and yes, I believe that there IS a look), so my inclination is to give him the benefit of the doubt. Of course, I usually give everyone the benefit of the doubt until or unless the evidence is powerfully overwhelming.
BTW, the gag order ONLY applies to the immediate parties and their attorneys. It does not even apply to the damned MEDIA. If they can get the info, they can print it. It’s one of those silly amendment thingies.
Anyway, thanks for being civil in your last post. I personally like to hear from friends and families, but not when they are screaming and cursing and blaming everyone they can think of. (Especially when the person they are defending is a KNOWN scumbag, and there is no doubt they are guilty. Which, again - I am not so sure is the case here.)
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TurtleMania reply on August 15th, 2008:
Shannon, I understand the killing of the monster. But cutting him up piece by piece and feeding it to animals? It takes awhile to cut up and dispose a large adult male especially if you’re just working with your basic hunting knife. I figure by the time he got several pieces situated together he’d calm down. But he did the whole body! WHOA.
I’m not sure I want to see him on the streets again. Not because he cut the whole body, but because he is liable to snap again. I’m just being honest. Glad I’m not residing in that area. Because I know they’ll let him walk the streets again especially if all you say is true.
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TurtleMania reply on August 15th, 2008:
Ah. So he used an axe? I see. Shannon, I hope you don’t piss him off…EVER.
I feel so safe because our state allows us to bear arms.
When you see a stranger, you don’t know what kind of hell they’ve been through. But my gun sure makes me feel safe. :)
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A reply on August 22nd, 2008:
Jack was nothing like what you guys are portraying him to be!
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An1mal reply on August 22nd, 2008:
I dont give a shit wtf “jack me hoff” went through. He was a god damned adult, and at any point all he had to do was open his retarded mouth to the authorities…..slam dunk…douche bag goes to jail! If vigilantism is against the law for ME, it sure as well it is for “jack”. He deffinately hasthe motive…let them both burn in hell!
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Mazzi reply on August 22nd, 2008:
An1mal! Down boy!!
Jack was the father. Jeremiah (Jerry) is the son/bride-to-be/murderer.
By the way, welcome back =) Missed ya!
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TurtleMania reply on August 22nd, 2008:
Hey, I really don’t want to see this kid on the streets again. I’d shoot him and then put a knife in his hands (self-defense). He needs to stay in a mental home forever! I don’t want to risk him snapping on someone and losing it again having an excuse to cut them into bits.
Gosh, would anyone feel safe with this kid in their home? God forbid the dog barks too much. You wake up and say, “here boy!” and curiously walk to your dogs dog-bed to find him neatly craved into dog kibbles.
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Mazzi reply on August 22nd, 2008:
I agree with that Turtle. Sort of.
IF the story is true though, I would guess it went down more like an initial *snap* (the gun), followed by blind rage (the stabbings), followed by how-the-fuck-do-I-get-rid-of-the-body? (the dismemberment/bucket deal).
There is one more question though. Why did the kid have a pistol? They were moving sheep around - which sounds like a farm-y thing. A shotgun or rifle would seem more farm-y weapon, especially if they were worried about wild animals getting the sheep. From what Iknow about guns, a pistol is not nearly as accurate as a rifle at long distances, and a shotgun would be the best at deterring wild critters.
Which leads to the next question - would Daddy have jumped the kid if he knew he had a pistol? Seems doubtful. If he was intent on making his son into his bride, I would expect that he would have disarmed him first.
So, did Jeremiah have that pistol for a reason other than sheep-safety? And was Dad unaware that Jeremiah had a pistol? and that brings us right back to the beginning of this puzzle - WHY did Jeremiah Berry have a pistol? Hmmmmmm.
TurtleMania reply on August 23rd, 2008:
Sure, I figured it went down the same way. Mazzie, I’m clued to it as much as you are.
But when I think of Jermy, I think of “used an ax to chop Jack Berry up into his component parts” That’s what stands out.
Not the the gun shot (basic) or the stabbing (yawn), but the chopping and feeding to coyotes part. The latter is the “Whoa” factor.
A reply on August 26th, 2008:
What a joke!
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TurtleMania reply on August 26th, 2008:
It is a joke. Better you than me. :)
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http://www.cortezjournal.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=848&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=&S=1
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Amy reply on August 14th, 2008:
I hope it is the monster that is in the bucket….and to your earlier post…if you know for a fact that as he lay there after being raped he thaught, “this is the last time,” doesnt that show premeditation?
Now if what he claims about his dad is true then its warranted that Jack got shot, stabbed, drawn and quartered and fed to the wild animals.
But i think its safe to say that Jeramiah has a few issues with his mental state to sort out.
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I think its safe to say that ole Jeramiah will be getting off on a plea of diminished mental capacity or some such shit.
Im still having trouble getting my head around this one.
Should daddy go to hell? I think Jeremiah sent him there already with a NO RETURNS sticker on his ass. I think God has enough to do without having to put together the jigsaw puzzle that was once Jack.
Im sure if Jeramiah was raped there would be evidence of tearing in/around his anus.
I think this whole family is headed to hell sooner or later.
Tip: inbreeding is just plain wrong.
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If you people only knew what my son went through, you would have a different view of this whole thing. if my son was to walk the steets again, he would still be the most loving kind person he was before he had killed his father. His hate was only towards his father and not towards any other human being. He loved people and had compassion for them. He always told me that he wanted to open a shelter for battered women and children. He loved his animals, they gave him comfort. Thank you Shannon for your support. Our family really appreciate you and your mom. P.S. Only God can judge because he knows our heart.
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Amy reply on August 15th, 2008:
I have to ask you, Jeramiah`s mom; if your sons father was , and im not saying he wasnt, but if things were as bad as you say they were and he was being abused, why did you leave it up to your son to shoot his dad, stab him a billion times and cut him into peices?
When you FIRST knew he was being abused why didnt you concoct some sort of plan to either take you childeren out of this mans perverse environment or as a last resort, get yourself a big fucking hunting knife and DO THE JOB YOURSELF! Was it easier to sit back and let poor Jeramiah do it?
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That is a big question, actually.
Jeremiah was not a child. At 20 years old, no court can force him to have contact with his father. So why was he there?
I know the whole “blood is thicker than water” thing, but when a father is THAT toxic, he needs to be cut right out of the picture. And I don’t mean physically cut.
Are there any other younger children in the family that were in danger from the dad?
The other thing is that I really don’t like when the family come onto message boards and refuses to take any responsibility for ALLOWING the victimization of a child. In this case, he is older, but like Amy, I am wondering why you, as his mother, did nothing? It sounds as if Jack was a pretty shitty guy for a long time.
My mother did nothing to help me because she didn’t KNOW what was going on - but as soon as she found out - she became a banshee to get me help. She rescued me, so I could rescue myself.
Why didn’t you rescue your son? I am not being snotty - I am really curious.
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So Jeramiah snapped after years of abuse. Ok, so if you snap…can you just snap back again? If Jeramiahs story is true and Jack was the animal described, then no, i dont think he should get hell. But Jail or committment to a mental health hospital sounds like a really good idea. At least until/if he is found to be sane and not a threat to anyone else.
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Regardless of what you all read in the papers and here on the news i know jerry better than anyone and he is the sweetest most kind loving person i’ve ever met. We have been attached at the hip for nearly 8 years and being apart is tearing his family and me to pieces. We weren’t lovers as many claim but we’re soul mates in a different way no question. What happened to him was wrong and he did the right thing in, all its severity. Imagine if it happened to you or your children. Any person in their right mind would have done the same thing so no matter what you vote it doesn’t matter because jerry and i don’t believe in hell anyway. And no one should even think about blaming his mother, she is a wonderful person and a wonderful mother to more than just her own children. I will be with him on this till the end.
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diana reply on September 9th, 2008:
i have to say… if i were in the position that this fella SAYS he was in, my reaction would be much the same. shoot, stab, stab, stab, etc… but for some reason, something sounds funny. i guess i need more details. don’t worry, i’m off to google now…
a few questions need to be answered, i guess, before i can form my opinion. was the the first instance of abuse for this guy? if not, then i agree with maz. i mean, at twenty, if you have been abused for years and years, then you GET THE FUCK OUT. however, if this is a first time thing, the getting raped and all, then i might be able to understand the reaction… i hope i would do the same, because we all know that your friendly court of law doesn’t often give rapists the punishment they deserve… okay, i need to shut up. to google i go. perhaps then i will be able to form an opinion… but i’m still curious, jerry’s mom… are you his mom? his sister? both? to clarify would help us all. cause it sounds weird.
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jeremiah's mom reply on September 12th, 2008:
Sorry for the confusion. This family doesn’t practice incest or anything like that. When my daughters and I were commenting, reply name wasn’t changed. :)
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Any updates on this one admin? Im curious to find out what happens to Jeremiah.
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i knew jack berry. He was always good to his kids all five of them. I also knew jeremiah, he went to school with my son, he was a little freak back then and as you can see by his picture he is a little freak now. I know why he killed him its because he told Jack he was gay & he did not approve of it . I know not one word jeremiah told police is true. But I guess he had months to come up with the lie he told. And as far as jeremiahs mother is concerned let me just say this ” The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.”
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Amy reply on September 28th, 2008:
I dont think his pic says he is a little freak…looks more like a scared kid.
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A reply on October 1st, 2008:
Nothing he has said is the truth. I am sure they will get on here and try to bad mouth me again but oh well life goes on. Just mad cause I married their dad. They have been with their mother since 2001 and Jack lived here so I don’t believe the whole story about the years and years of abuse. Jack never raised a hand to me not as much as a yell out of his mouth. Alll lies in his imagination!
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Amy reply on October 1st, 2008:
Do you have children A? Were they ever around Jack? No, im not being a smart arse, i really want to know.
If you dont have children, maybe that is why you never saw signs of abuse.
Police are pretty good at doing their job and forensic science is better than ever before. Im sure that they will find the answers to what really happened.
Just keep it in the back of your mind, that what they are claiming just may be true. You need to prepare yurself for that. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
Child molesters are very good at hiding.
While my father never molested me, he abused me terribly as a child. My brothers and sister copped the same treatment. So did my mum.
To the outside world he was a pillar of society. Donating to various charities, helping locals re build their homes when a fire swept through the town without any charge, he was know as the man who would give you the shirt off his back.
They were not around when he lined us up and put a loaded rifle to our heads and told us to say goodbye to each other before he killed us. They were not there when he would parade my mother around the house naked, telling us to look and see what a whore looks like. Our bruises were hidden under long shirts and jeans. If i was to go back to the town i grew up in and told the locals what my father was REALLY like…they would run me out of town for trying to destroy their hero.
Abusers hide what they do. They are good at it. Thats why they get away with it for so long.
I hope for your sake you are right abut Jack.
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TurtleMania reply on October 1st, 2008:
My dad was the same way. I remember one time he shaved all my mom’s hair off, put a collar on her, put her in restraints, and forced her to eat/drink out the dog’s bowl. I remember her crying.
Crazy part about it is that I don’t know if it was all a show as they were lovey dovey the very next day. My other siblings and I just got used to it as weird shit mom and dad does.
Amy reply on October 1st, 2008:
Yeah, my folks were the same. But it was because mum knew it was better to give into my dad and do and say whatever he wanted her to. If he said give me a kiss and tell me you love me, she would. Even if it was moments after a hiding from him. It was better than having his bad mood and violence escalate.
A reply on October 2nd, 2008:
Yes I do. Three daughters and they were around him for 5 years. If he did not only I would have beaten his ass but my daughters would have too. They were never touched by him. So that it is hard for me to believe these stories. He has also good with stories. The people that knew him in school always thought he was weird. I don’t believe it and until they prove me wrong (which they will never do) I will stand by what I know in my heart is true. We seperated in 2005 but on good terms so I have no harsh feelings towards him whatsoever. His children have alot of problems and have all of their lives. And for their mother, I have no words for her.
Amy reply on October 2nd, 2008:
Like i said, i hope for your sake, that you are right.
i don’t believe one word jeremiah say’s but , I do believe our opinions are just that …opinions! In the end God will be the judge. So if I was Jeremiah I would not worry so much about what other people think . Instead I would be praying to GOD for forgiveness ! But according to his best friend he doesn’t believe in hell. Well he better start or that’s where he’s going to end up!!!!!!!!!!
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Amy reply on September 30th, 2008:
He claims that his father raped him repeatedly for years. I dont think he is worried about what people think, otherwise he would never have told the world that daddy butt fucked him.
Not something id want to be famous for.
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just another lie . you might come up with a crazy story like he did if it would get you keep you out of going to prison for the rest of your life !
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A reply on October 6th, 2008:
I like how Shannon says Jack had abused them for years. He wasn’t around them for years. I got those warped kids out of my house so I didn’t have to deal with their crap. Everone in Colorado Springs that knew Jack knows he is not capable of doing what Jeremiah is saying. The word here is that Jeremiah told Jack he was gay and Jack was angry about it. And everyone I have talked to whose children went to school with those kids say the exact same thing. CRAZY! They all need some serious help.
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