Texas Executions Of Foreign National Murderers
When Texas is the only state in the union that is operating with logic and sense, there’s something wrong with the United States.
Over the years that they have been part of our union, we’ve become used to the excesses of Texas. Everything is big there. The attitudes, the money, the land, the food. The people of Texas are also some of the most ardent supporters of the death penalty, often killing many people every year.
This stance they take, this unrelenting pursuit of justice, makes up for most everything else that is wrong with the state.
Except for their ridiculously aggressive mosquitoes.
This was 28-year-old Heliberto Chi.
Heliberto Chi was a Honduran citizen who happened to be an illegal immigrant living in the United States. For a while, he worked at a men’s clothing store in Arlington as a tailor. On the 24th of March, 2001, Heliberto Chi knocked on the door of the clothing store. His boss, Armand Paliotta, came to the door and, after being told that Heliberto Chi left his wallet in the store, let Heliberto in.
Once inside the store, Heliberto pulled out a .38 and demanded that night’s money deposit bag. Armand Paliotta ended up being shot in the back, along with another 18-year-old kid who was working that night and who had tried to run. A third employee hid among clothing racks in the store and called 911. On the 911 tapes, Heliberto Chi can be heard calling out to the hiding employee, telling him to come to the front of the store.
A few minutes later, with police on their way, Heliberto and his driver drove off, leaving their carnage behind them.
The kid survived, Armand didn’t.
Six weeks later, Heliberto Chi was arrested in Reseda, California. His 18-year-old pregnant girlfriend had turned him in for beating her up, telling the police that her boyfriend was wanted for murder in Texas.
Heliberto was extradited to Texas, found guilty and sentenced to death. Everything was going smoothly until Honduras decided that Heliberto Chi was their citizen and that he shouldn’t be executed.
Some lawyers agreed. Terry O’Rourke, a lawyer who worked on Heliberto Chi’s legal team and who teaches international law at Houston’s University of St. Thomas, said Chi’s guilt wasn’t the issue.
Chi is a murderer. But we don’t kill all murderers. We don’t execute all murderers. We do it according to the law. When your state violates international law to kill somebody, it has very negative consequences.
I can agree with that.
Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be. We here at PYSIH.com are nothing if not reasonable, logical people.
Of course, this is why we also support – wholeheartedly – the execution of foreign nationals who commit execution-worthy crimes on our soil. And no, we did not just contradict ourselves.
Violating international law is bad, yes. Not abiding by treaties our leaders signed half a century ago does undermine the moral authority of the United States in regards to the relations that we have with other national entities.
However.
The first duty of the leadership of any country is to the citizens of that country. The leaders of the United States have the obligation to protect the interests of United States citizens before the interests of foreign powers – no matter how powerful.
Executions of criminals who are judged to deserve execution serves the interests of United States citizens.
We have collectively decided that we hold life sacred. When an individual violates that position, we have decided that we will express our dismay at their behavior in the most stringent manner possible – we execute the offender.
We do not torture the individual who is under a death sentence. We feed them, house them and clothe them while they are in our custody. We give them the ability to appeal their death sentence.
When the time comes, the execution is quick. It is as painless as we can make it. We do not televise the execution. We do not parade the dead body in front of the crowds.
We perform the surgery, remove the cancer and throw it away.
It is in the interest of Honduras to try to save their citizens, just as it is in the interest of the United States to protect its citizens from criminals who come to our country to kill, rape and steal. If our leaders ignore United States law and ignore the expressed will of the people they govern, if they put the interests of other nations before our own – then they are dancing on the line that divides statesman from traitor and should be dealt with accordingly.
This is one of the main reasons why Barack Obama makes me a bit nervous.
Barack Obama has stated:
I know my country has not perfected itself. We’ve made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions.
According to Barack, he considers himself not only a citizen of the United States, but also a “citizen of the world.” That statement brings up the issue of where his ultimate loyalties lie – and that is a serious, serious issue.
How would Barack Obama deal with the fact that the International Court of Justice and the head of the United Nations called for the American court system to be overruled and for Heliberto Chi to be returned to Honduras?
Would the man who would be the President of the United States sell out the citizens of Texas in pursuit of such a nebulous goal as international goodwill?
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If they can kill in this country, they can be jailed and be punished by OUR laws. They choose to come here to live ILLEGALLY. If you commit the crime here, be prepared to face the consequences of our laws-be it jail or death.
This burns my ass. They don’t give a rats ass about his whereabouts until he kills someone and might be punished here. Tell the Honduras we’ll send his body back after his time is finished on death row.
I agree with you Lori, I also think after the sentence they serve here the illigal should most def. be deported…(unless its the death sentence then we just send them back home to be burried….they do the crime here…we punish them, and what about trespassing, in my state if your illigal immigrant and your caught here you get jailed on criminal trespassing before being deported….
If he was here then he is under our rules. I cannot believe this world. He lives here, kills people here, beats up pregnant women here, and now he should have to live under our laws and punishments. I cannot believe this.
What would his country do when they had him back? They probably wouldn’t do anything.
I agree Lori. If they’re coming over here to live (and there are a LOT of illegal immigrants in Texas) and commit a crime punishable by death, they should have no right to go back to Mexico THEN to try to get help. It infuriates me to know that illegals are coming to the US and killing people. Not only are they taking our jobs they kill out men, women and children. Fuck them! I’m glad he was executed last night! Oh yeah, the mosquitoes do suck ass here.
“When Texas is the only state in the union that is operating with logic and sense, there’s something wrong with the United States.”
I love Texas. I’m really considering moving there. I want to be Joe Horn’s neighbor.
But I really find comfort in the fact that Texas kicks ass. I love it.
I drove through the panhandle once…wasnt a very pleasant exprience….stockyards from one end of the horizon, to the other. The smell was comparable to what they must have exprienced in dachau or auschwitz….although they do have the fast pass to the death chamber….makes up for the smell in my opinion :)
The Panhandles is probably the worst part of Texas to be quite honest. Amarillo, Lubbock, and everything out that way could be scrubbed off the map and no one would really give a shit.
just throwing in an opposing position. i like this site, and i agree these people deserve punishment. i oppose the DP for purely structuralist reasons. 1. i don’t want to be paying the taxes required to defend a DR convict through the appeals process to the death chamber. it costs 4x as much. 2. it’s been thoroughly proven that life in prison in solitary is a far worse punishment than getting all the attention a DR convict gets + the comparatively easy out. i watched a docu about someone who had been in solitary for 22 years – he was exonerated and released, allergic to the outside air. 3. watching a convict die doesn’t generally bring a victim’s family much relief. eye for an eye doesn’t work very well in practice. 4. too many mistakes, too discriminatory, too many little mistakes on the way. we wonder why we have so many killers when our society in general is as sick and twisted as it is, especially in pro-life leaning states. unwanted children should not be born. they become killers due to abuse, neglect, poverty, poor education. this is a structural argument and i know it’s painful to hear for people who want an easy answer but unfortch EVERY action has a motive/origin. killing is NUTURE, if it were genetic, australia would be overrun with criminals being or origin a penal colony. we have 5 times the murder rate. that’s all :)
so your pro-abortion but against the Death Penalty? people like you scare me a little.
you’re not a person until you’re in my phonebook. there’s logic there if you’re willing to look for it. in science books, mainly.
A few thoughts
1. As a citizen of CT born in MA, if I commit a murder in TX, would the states of MA or CT come to my defense? NO
2. Maybe I should become a citizen of Honduras, move into New Havana (oops Haven) CT (sanctuary city) then I could live tax and law free?
3. This guys very presence was illegal!
4. What if I break a law in Honduras?
Thus I conclude that as a Honduran citizen I can come to America, rape, murder and not pay taxes and my government will protect me from the USA. Cool! As a non-custodial parent, I am changing my citizenship, will deal with the custodial parent, then have my new government aid me in getting custody of my child.
What ever happened to the simp,e saying “When in Rome do as the Romans do”? In Texas, commit a horrible crime, get caught and die. Simple and it should apply to all, else we need not have the United States, just a huge district where all people could decide which set of laws each wants to live by!
Hey now, don’t get political. No such thing as a perfect politician anyways. So, is this guy going to fry or what?
admin – Already dead. Second illegal immigrant Texas executed this week against the wishes of the country of origin.
Daaayyyyyymmmmmnnnn. You don’t mess with Texas EVER. They’re a just a state and they even defy COUNTRIES!! DAMN!
honestly, i think this was a good story with important points and i’m pissed that for the first time i think i’ve caught here at least it went randomly political just so you can make a statement about your own views that have nothing to do with this story. i know you really did try to make a point about him correlating the two but really it just comes off as you bashing obama in an unrelated story just cause you can. thats retarded. but i still love this site regardless
admin – That’s why it’s in the “commentary” section, not the “wrath” section.
Let’s be political shall we?
It’s not good to bash Obama.
And John Edwards admits to an affair.
Selfish of him, his wife is crying about her cancer and all John can think about is his stiff wood.
Nissa said: “No such thing as a perfect politician.”
admin – There’s a difference between bashing someone and questioning them based on something that they’ve said. Bashing Obama would go like…”Nothing good has come out of Chicago since improv was invented there.”
Yeah TM, ain’t that Edward’s guy something? What a first class putz. Shades of Gary Hart, but at least Hart’s wife wasn’t dying of cancer.
I’m having a hard time with the logic these friends of Heliberto the back shooter are using to justify their position (Don’t you love the sweet expression on his face in the picture from Death Row). Let me get this straight now. He was in this country illegally, and in the course of a robbery, shot one man to death and wounded another, though his obvious intention was to off all three employees. How am I doing so far? He fled to California, where he charmed his girlfriend so much (with his fists) that she called the cops and told them he was wanted in Texas for murder. Tried and convicted, he was sentenced to Death. So far I’m following everything, no problemo.
Now this is where I get lost. His friends are saying none of this matters. Forget that he didn’t ask permission to be here, and he wasn’t invited. Forget that it’s only by sheer luck that he’s not a double or triple murderer. They say we should not only spare his life, but pat him on his head, tell him it’s OK and please don’t do that bad thing again and pack him home to Honduras. I mean were not talking about a diplomat, or even a spy…He’s just another country’s lowlife plying his trade over here. The man who probably will be our next president believes most, if not all, of this. Barak, that one more reason why I’m actually considering voting for a Republican for the 1st time in my life. John McCain is so much the superior man, but his politic just suck.
Any-whooooo, I digress. I gotta go lay down I think. Too much thinking today. Too many new posts. Too few brain cells.
Max
Yeah – but I don’t really want to talk politics here. But I must say, Edwards is a sack of shit. Is that all he could think about is his dick?
Here I go again with this realdolldotcom thing. Go buy a doll, and have fun with it. Why cheat on your wife? Who knows? Whenever she is free and clear of her illness she’ll join you and do some role-playing with your new doll.
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Now, if we didn’t execute that POS, Heliberto Chi, every illegal will get the idea that it’s ok to sneak in, do some crazy shit and get sent back home. We MUST make an example and Texas once again makes me proud.
Edwards says “In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic”. That’s just the kind of guy we want in the veep seat should anything happen to the pres. eh?
All politicians are lying, unethical, power-hungry, corrupt scum. If they weren’t they wouldn’t GO into politics. And the very, very few who go in to try and make a difference become corrupted really fast, or they never get re-elected. It’s just the way it works.
Nah, I’m not jaded.
People who have affairs while their spouse have cancer and is in treatment are scumbags, like people who leave their family for another person.
Anyways, I am all for the death penalty. It is another form of punishment for me. Hell, we should make their death more painful and agonizing.
Admin – I know. I know. I know.
My comment is bits and pieces of the what the others posted so that we could get a dialog going. Relax, I know the differences. :)
admin – Don’t make me flip you over on your back.
um, Admin:
you, too, are a citizen of the world. we all are, in fact. our behaving as if we run the place has gotten us into a bit of trouble since early 2001. Consider that, will ya? your particularly fetishistic obsession with killing criminals is not a sufficiently broad context within which to evaluate someone running for a fairly multi-faceted job.
admin – Negative, Ghostrider. Citizen of the United States. Our misguided and pathetic attempts to use a force which is intended to destroy as a pacifying element in a section of the world whose inhabitants are mostly insane is largely responsible for the lack of respect that the world has for us. The world loves a winner. We are not winning – at least not where it counts. And I see nothing in the near future that leads me to believe that our general downward slide will veer off or up.
Citizen of the world? What kind of stupid shit is that? Last I checked, I was a citizen of the USA.
Regardless, Admin has just as much right to comment on his political views as anyone else. Even people who try to use words like “fetishistic obsession” to try and sound smart. (hint: it doesn’t sound smart, it sounds pompous and pretentious).
Actually – now that I think about it – Admin has the right to do most anything he wants here. It’s HIS FUCKING BOARD! If you don’t like it.. the door’s thattaway!
Sorry but I would apply the same standards if I went to another country. You follow THEIR laws. If citizens of these countries don’t want to be executed, one simple thing to do… don’t kill anyone.
Agreed. How quickly the youth of today have forgotten the caning that one guy got for simple vandalism. Shit like that needs to happen more often so people remember to behave themselves in foreign places.
who gives a shit what honduras has to say anyway.
As it’s been commented on above….any foreign national who enters the US, falls under US jurisdiction. End of story as far as Im concerned. Other countries are damn quick enough to prosecute americans who have broken the laws of their land.
Go Lone Star Go…fire up the chamber and show the rest of the states how it’s done!
another beaner sneaking in thinking they run shit here in usa!
go back to yor country and sleep with your sisters! wetback cant behave so he should die glad hes dead now wrap his body in a flag and send him home
again….who gives a shit wtf you think marita. In fact you are no better than the topic of the story…so stfu and go burn a cross in your own front yard…you are so retarded it wouldn’t surprise me if you haven’t already!
I’m opposed to the death penalty. That being said – don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. I don’t care where you’re from, what the circumstances are, your childhood, skin color, IQ – pretty simple concept – break the law, get punished.
“I’m opposed to the death penalty.”
That’s all you ever need to say. You are the dymbol of everything wrong with the current justice system….lol outside of texas.
I AM NOT a dymbol. Why the hell does everyone keep calling me a dymbol?
It’s my brother that’s the dymbol……jerk.
An1mal is a big, fat meanie-face. So there.
heh more like a tool than a dymbol…
That’s what my daughter says. Have you been talking to her?
What fuckin great exchange folks…*laugh*
sure. texas has more than 8x the murder rate as new york state which doesn’t have the death penalty. well done there. you’re REALLY scaring those murderers. actually you’re scaring your own wallets. $2.3 million each year in taxpayer money to have that death penalty. how LUX!
we’ve enjoyed every dollar spent ! We ara also at least 8x the size of New York . Plus our kids still play in our neighborhoods, ride their bikes to school, and I can even runto the cornor store at night alone if I wanted.
Nice, Penny! Here in Texas we would rathar spend our dollars executing murderers, instead of feeding and clothing them. I’m not complaining anyway.
Um, something I didn’t see brought up anywhere else- is that a death penalty worthy crime? There are a lot of murderers in our prisons, not all of them on death row.
And this stuff about Obama’s potential divided loyalties, and selling out the citizens of Texas is just silly. The fact is, the US has been the biggest kid in the playground for a long time, and quite frankly a bit of a bully at times. A few other kids are catching up though, and we’re going to have to learn to share a little bit more. We have 5% of the world’s population and consume 25% of the world’s energy resources. That’s a lot of sandbox for one kid.
git rid of beaners and yor energy percent goes way way down
wetbacks have too many kids and add to that live in one room
STFU you inbred, cross-eyed douche bag. Your comments here are neither warranted nor wanted.
Admins…I call on you to ban her IP across the board. Her comments do a great disservice to everyone here!
Um, more kids, living in less space, means a lower per captia energy use. By your argument, we need MORE ‘beaners’, not less.
People like you are the reason the US ranks only about 19th in the world in Math.
But first in the world in meth, which it seems marita is a huge fan of.
Yes I too see it as if they come here live by our laws PERIOD! And if you don;t well then be prepared to face our consequesnces!(sp) A PERFECT example is me living in IL and getting arrested in GA with weed. Georgia laws are WAY more strict and when I was sentenced did NOT ask for them to follow Illinois laws rather Georgia laws as it should be.
Admin, your argument is a farce, how did our current president react to the Chi issue, he did not because it at a state level.
Bringing your politics into this site is laughable; your argument is “what if” Barack did something, you don’t know how he would react, your just assuming because of a statement he made how he would react. In other words you don’t have a fucking clue.
I take it from your shitty story your repugnant lying sake in the grass republicans.
FU
I saw when B.O. made that statement and the first thing that came to mind was the war in Iraq.
Woah Mr E….I’m as far from a Republican as you can get, and Obama has made me nervous from day one. The only reason I supported him during the primaries was that I’ve come to believe the Clintons were a political version of a Mafia family, & Hillary was akin to the Anti-Christ. But Barak keeps saying and doing one dumbass thing after another, and gets a pass from the media every time. So admin was right on with the original story, if of only because somebody has to say it. Making Obama accountable for his mistakes will make him a better candidate, and a better president.
Max,
The first time I read this post, I read the “Clinstones” and had to reread because I could not figure how Fred, Wilma, Barney and Betty were mafia-like. HAhahaha!
The Admin is welcome to his opinion…they did what most peopel don’t and paid attention. With a politition, or any political for that matter, all you have is what they say to judge how they will react. They didn’t take what Obama said out of context…he was quoted correctly. Now what he meant with that statement was likely concerning the war, but who knows? It was a statement Obama made and it COULD absolutely apply here and be potentially bad if Obama does turn into a UN yesman (which btw, I don’t think he will)
admin – Frankly I think neither of the major candidates are being honest with their intentions. Once one of them is elected, we’ll begin to see their true goals. McCain is just as bad, but at least we know how bad he is due to his lengthy record. Obama is a cypher, a product of one of the most corrupt political areas of the country.
Still waiting for an answer as to how those Ethiopian kids got the flies to stick to their eye balls….
It’s easy, Slim.
Sugar water eyewash and some crazyglue.
Fuckin oustanding.
Mr E….again i don’t know why i have to explain what should have been as obviously as day and night….
This site walks the tightrope of brutual truth and sarcasm…the sarcasm is here to give a bit of hilarity in a dark, dark subject(s).
It took me a bit to catch onto this fact….so don’t be me…lol railing at the wall when in fact, the wall is your friend.
BTW…all politicians are nothing more than snake oil salesmen…it’s the very nature of the profession….so if you want to cast apersions….maybe you would be better off going that route….not attacking a site for telling a joke eh?
Again…not trying to preach…this is a lesson I had to learn myself…..afterwards Ive found much humor in this site…after I got off my high horse, and made it into the buggest Bic Mac you’ve ever seen! tasty Mr ed was…Hmmm Hmmm
I agree with life in prison. It’s cheaper and they get less attention and fewer groupies. Then we should bill Honduras for the cost of keeping him in prison.
Oh, and executing him just lets other criminals (illegal immigrants or otherwise) that they shouldn’t leave any witnesses and that they should beat their young girls more often so they lack the spirit to turn their pathetic BF’s in.
Let me give you a senario…an American Citizen, a young man around teh age of 15, spraypaints a little graffiti on a wall in Singapore. The young American is caught and sentenced to 50 lashes with a bamboo rod. In the interest of international peace America decided after the family appeals to the International Court to allow the punishment, afterall…the crime was committed on foreign soil so it was only right. The boy was lashes an his bottom 50 times with a bamboo rod. After the second lash there was blood drawn and even today the boy remains scarred from that experience. Now…before you say…scarred not dead. The walls teh boy painted were repainted and show no signs of the crime…a man is still dead. I support Obama and am very interested to see what he would have to say about this and see if he’s willing to deny deportation. I will be left extremely disappointed if they do allow this man to go back home and is not killed here for his crimes.
Thanks for your responses, you people are great.
I live in NH and voted for Ron Paul the only person who I thought could save this country.
Thanks again
Lets not go political here OK? Leave the koolaid drinking at the door.
One thing that apparently nobody picked up on is the fact that this lowlife murdered the very man that gave him a job!! So much for the advantages of hiring an illegal.
Correct. And nobody mentioned how happy he looks knowing he was about to die. He loved it and wanted death come. He welcomed it like a long lost friend. He consumed death as if it was fresh air.
Yes being illegal can have some advantages, but no more than accepting your own demise. “Embrace death with a smile.”
Oh and dont forget to put a sunflower in his cold limp hands after he dies. Fix his hands to clasp the flower then photograph it.
Topically: Honduras claims that this awful person, this murderer, is theirs? Send him home where he couldn’t make a life for himself to begin with. If he kills their people, the onus is on them. We don’t need to hold him here and kill him, we are rid of him either way. I worry about why Honduras cares enough to object. I know the families of these people probably want revenge. I can understand that. I would, too, but the overall good of the country is in getting rid of the guy, and if someone wants him, they can have him. I also realize that the murdered boss hired this illegal immigrant. He probably hired him for cheap labor. You know what you don’t get when you hire illegal immigrants? Background checks. No, I’m not saying he had it coming. I’m saying that if people could come to this country legally, we could keep better tabs on them. If inflation we could keep inflation under control, we wouldn’t be forced to choose cheap workers. Bad people will always be here, born here or not. If they have less reason to sneak in, we have a better chance of catching them. I can tell that most of the regulars here are conservatives, and won’t really agree, but I have to say something. I’ve felt so powerless for the past 8 years. While I wish I could just make a joke and forget it, I get kind of serious about this stuff, so this will be long.
Political OPINION:
Okay, I’m not a huge Obama fan, but what he said had nothing to do with this. His sentiment is being twisted with this question. A citizen of the world is not someone who puts their country second. It’s a good thing. It means they are well-rounded. They’ve been elsewhere, they know about other cultures, they understand that people look at the world from very different perspectives based on their cultural context. They can make informed decisions that can help our country prosper in the world. It’s about making sure other countries will do business with us, listen to our input, and support us in conflicts. This is something we should care about, we need allies. We are no longer the untouchable great superpower we were recently. America is a melting pot made up of many different backgrounds, it’s something to be proud of. American citizens don’t fit a mold, we come from all different subcultures that shape the way we see things. I grew up hearing that we are the greatest country in the world. We had all of the best and brightest, all the wealth, all the power. We are losing our edge, look at the statistics on world wealth and education. We have to be careful who we piss off. What he said is also about respecting fellow Americans even if they don’t have the same customs and schemas as the majority. I am not the stereotypical christian, flag waving American. A lot of those people don’t agree with my opinions, but guess what! I’m an American born citizen, like my parents and grandparents and so-on. In fact, I have native blood as well as european, I come from parents of different religions. I grew up in the shadow of the WTC. I was there when the towers fell and started this war that unleashed the contempt of the rest of the planet in the name of self-defense. I deserve the respect of my administration and fellow countrymen, even if I disagree with their views. I don’t usually get that respect. I love my freedom, I love the beauty of this country, I love the friendliness, and the food, and the diversity. I don’t like some of the closed-mindedness and apathy. I don’t like willfull ignorance. We should work on that. The gov’t works for us. If I’m in the minority, I have to accept that others feel differently. What I don’t have to accept are dismissal, abuse and intentionally misleading politics. I’m not in love with Obama or Biden, but that’s a pretty dirty nitpick. There’s no reason to ignore the rest of the world. It’s out there, and it’s doesn’t exist just to get in our way. We have to take the rest of the world into account, we are not an island (literally and figuratively). We can’t stay powerful if we’re isolationists and bullies. When we are in danger, we are obligated to protect ourselves. When we end up putting ourselves in more danger with our strategies, we have to change them (i.e. we have made Al-Qaeda much more powerful, since more people joined their cause because they hate us so much, this was is a great advertisement for them).
Damn, am I troll bait or what? I get a little passionate.
Ok, I know I’ll get some arguments, and if they’re well founded, go for it. I’m open to changing my opinions if faced with well thought out arguments. Leave out the wooden language (look it up if you don’t know) and half-facts. I’ve lost tolerance for selective reporting. We can’t know everything, but we can try to know as much as possible. Care! Educate yourselves! Read about serial killers and rapists in a snarky venue! Maybe I’m a blowhard sometimes, but at least I’m trying.
Damn. I was really enjoying this site… believed that you were kind-hearted people with a real and justified indignation toward psychotic predators, molesters and killers. Then I stumble on this post and it’s political crap. What a turn-off. Stick to the facts and leave your right-wing prejudice out of the “reporting”. Now I don’t know if I can trust a friggin’ word you write… I suspect bias in everything. I’m not against the death penalty, nor am I an advocate for the death penalty. But I certainly don’t think that the state that kills the most people wins. Holy crap.
all i can tell you DogBitez is that I allow all opinions to be voiced on our message board, no matter how extreme. I think you should trust your first impressions of the our regulars, because 90% of us are committed to admin’s intended purpose of this website. I remember this story, and even though the comments sometimes took a decidedly political tone, it’s the exception rather than the rule around here. I hope you decide to stick around
-editor
When you leave, don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
If people would scrutinize the polotician they are supporting as much as they did his opponent, the truth would be more prevelent. Instead we have a bunch of sheeple running around trying to prove that this one jerk is better than the other because of words. This goes to all sides. If you were trully a smart person, you’d sit doen with a resume of some type pertaining to each canidate. You’d evaluate the facts, and not your emotions after hearing a fluffy speech.
Yes america is part of the world, but our constent fight to look out for ourselves it what allows you to live in what peace we do have. This is why people came to america and continue to. We can not control other contries, we can only control how we react to them. Be thankful that someone is working hard to keep you and your children safe. You may not like the means, but I am sure you enjoy the rewards. That being said, when we all get sold out by Obama, its all you sheeple and your lack of courage that are to blame.
Penny… Will you marry me?
I did not support either candidate as they were both very much the same and where they differed, they were too extreme to be much of a contributing force to a positive change that everyone is talking about now. I think everyone will be sorely disappointed when they see that not much will change once Obama takes office. The president is a figurehead to our country and with the check and balances that are supposed to be in place, it would be impossible to elect someone who is going to have a policy work 100%.
That being said, I supported the one candidate that I knew in my heart was being true, was not being bought out by past presidents or other government officials… He was not bought out by corporations or on what he thought was going to make him popular and at the same time he wasn’t afraid to proclaim what he believed in. Ron Paul was the only president that wanted to make a stand to give us all of our freedoms back and to also minimize the size of government.
Excuse me, presidential candidate, not president.