Stacey Mendieta
This is 28-year-old Stacey Mendieta.
We here at People You’ll See In Hell don’t quite know what to think about Stacey, so we’ll give you, our reader, the facts and let you decide.
For a few years, since 2004, Stacey Mendieta was married to a man named Hugo Mendieta. Hugo Mendieta is an illegal immigrant who does a variety of jobs that Americans won’t do.
Hugo Mendieta and Stacey Mendieta produced two children: 5-year-old Jasmine Mendieta and 2-year-old Nathan Mendieta.
In February of 2008, Hugo Mendieta moved on, leaving his wife of four years with the kids in their apartment in Castle Rock, Colorado. Stacey filed for divorce a month later, in March.
Process servers couldn’t find Huge Mendieta to serve him with divorce papers, probably because, as court documents state, “Hugo Mendieta is an illegal alien who is most likely is Honduras or elsewhere in South America.” In the end, Stacey served the divorce notification by publication – meaning she put it in the newspaper.
In the meantime, Stacey Mendieta got on with her life. She moved back home with her parents and gave up the lease on her apartment. She looked around online for dates.
She found a new man who lived in Kuwait who she got along really, really well with. They got along so well, in fact, that she decided to move her family from Colorado to Kuwait after her new man proposed to her.
It’s not surprising that Stacey Mendieta was on a man-hunt. Life for a single mom can be hard, even when she has her parents around to help out. Stacey Mendieta worked full-time for Time Warner at night and slept during the day while the kids were in day care or being looked after by her parents, Ken and Pam VanHerpen. Finding a man in Kuwait must have seemed rather exotic and fun. Stacey Mendieta referenced her upcoming trip on her Myspace page, which can be found here.
In the second week of August, 2008, Eric Ruderman, who represented Stacey Mendieta in her divorce, got a court order of approval for Stacey and her children to move to Kuwait. After she was awarded sole custody of her kids, Stacey quit her job at Time Warner and started packing for her trip to Kuwait.
On the 20th of August, 2008, at 3:15 in the afternoon, Stacey Mendieta called 911 and reported that she couldn’t find her children. Police responded to the call within minutes, arriving at the affluent subdivision and finding Stacey alone in her parents’ house.
Outside, on the driveway was a red, four-door Honda Civic that belonged to Stacey.
Inside the red, four-door Honda Civic, with the doors unlocked, were Stacey’s two children.
Jasmine Mendieta, who was scheduled to enter Kindergarten in the fall of 2008, was on the floorboard in the front of the car. Nathan Mendieta was on the floor in the back of the car.
And yes, they were dead.
For a while there was a bit of a mystery as to exactly how the two children had died, but on the 29th of August, 2008, the Douglas County coroner’s office announced that they had determined that the two children died of hyperthermia.
Investigators questioned Stacey Mendieta a few times, but have yet to make any accusations of foul play. It looks, for all intents and purposes, like the two Mendieta children died in a horrible accident that seems to be all too common nowadays.
Still.
Go to a Kindergarten somewhere.
Grab a 5-year-old girl and throw her into your Honda Civic, then sit back and wait.
Good money is on the 5-year-old being able to open the door, especially if she’s in the front seats – where child safety locks aren’t installed. And once the 5-year-old is out of the car, the 2-year-old would be right behind her – or the 5-year-old could open the rear car door from the outside and defeat the child safety locks.
No charges. No charges at all.
From all reports, Stacey Mendieta was a good mother who loved her children. Why would people ever suspect Stacey of doing something…bad? How dare we broach the subject?
Is it due to a terrible cynicism about human nature? Is it because there have been a few too many deaths due to kids being left in cars this year? Is it because you’ve read People You’ll See In Hell?
Imagine, if you will, that you were a youngish, still-attractive woman who was going to go meet the man of your dreams in a foreign country after going through a divorce. Wouldn’t you feel more attractive if you didn’t have some other man’s children along with you?
Dona Alrich, who lives across the street and knew the family well told the press:
They were a beautiful caring and loving family. The children were important to all of them. They were their primary reason for living.
Isn’t it sad that we’ve gotten to the point where we have doubts about the veracity of that statement?
Does Stacey Mendieta deserve Hell?
- Yes (61%, 343 Votes)
- No - it was just an accident (39%, 217 Votes)
Total Voters: 560
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I don’t buy this story at all. Period. I have a 5 year old, and she is able to lock and unlock the doors-and open the door. I don’t buy that a 2 year old and a 5 year old were stuck in an unlocked car.
More and more people are “forgetting” their kids are in the car and letting them die. Usually no charges are filed by local police. It is looked at as a tragic “accident”.
Two weeks ago a local woman “forgot” her daughter in her minivan. She also died of hyperthermia. It’s a nicer term for heat stroke.
Laws need to change to protect children from dying in a hot car because parents know they will not be charged. Until this is changed, more innocent children will die this horrible death.
I don’t know, but I’d think a 5 year old would lay on the horn and wake up the neighborhood.
I panic when I forget my cell phone….. And I do know that, as a father, a child is more important; then again I am not her….
…so how can you judge her?
*grin*
No one is judging her, but you have to be pretty to be inside of your house and forget that your kids are right outside in the CAR!! i have children and when they get home, they are running around playing, making noise, asking for something to drink or eat….she never even noticed any of that was not happening, people get real. She wanted to start a new life with a new man and the kids who only be in the way…right? Ask Susan Smith about that. She needs to spend the rest of her life in jail thinking about what has happened.
That’s my stance. If she so loved her children how did she Forget about them int he first place? Was she High? Mentally Handicapped? Does her brain some how not function properly? Early onset Alzheimer’s? I don’t buy any of it at all! I can only hope the police are playing dumb in order to gather evidence, but I’ve seen enough to know that might not be the case.
You hateful ignorant people. Do you KNOW Stacey? OMG I saw this site and I was instantly sickened. This young lady LOVED her children and was rebuilding her life when this tragic accident happened. IF you know her you would KNOW she was ecstatic about each of her pregnancies and ADORED her children. Those who have been friends with her from childhood.. had her as a roomate………..and remained close friends through her marriage, pregnancies etc.. knows this is a loving wonderful mother. Shame on you for such awful posts on someone you know nothing about. The authorities..whom were notified IMMEDIATELY fully investigated and found everything she said to be absolutely true. Stacey herself is the one asking the whys and questioning what happened. She is living a nightmare of losing her children in a freak accident every day. People like you all posting would only realize the pain if you suffer something such as this. God will judge you all for your comments and hateful hearts. I do not know a parent alive who hasn’t fallen asleep for a nap … things happen… sometimes very bad things. You all should keep your hateful comments to yourself unless YOU KNOW THE FACTS. You should be saddened that a new young family’s lives have been destroyed. The pure fact is.. there are sickos out there yes.. but not every tragic death is due to the parent commiting a crime. Shame on you all for judging something and someone..you know NOTHING about!
We are saddened. What happened here should never have happened.
Many of us are parents and as such question how she didnt notice that the children were missing and how, in her search, she did not look in the car.
We also wonder how the children managed to get out the front door and into the car, but could not get out again.
Its not that we dont care…we care very much about these children and what happened.
We are just asking questions like everyone else, but instead of doing it over coffee with a neighbour, we do it here at PYSIH.
Great comment Amy!
I was thinking the same thing, HOW does a 5 year old get into the car but not know how to get out? I have a 3 year old grandson that knows how to open the doors of the cars, 2 are trucks, 1 is a small car and one is a BMW that the doors are hard to open because if they are locked you have to pull the lever 2 times to get out. he has known how to get out of the car for a long time.
how hot was it that day? how long were they missing? why would they get into the car to play?
This is a sad story the children were so cute, they are with the lord now and my thoughts are with them.
“People like you all posting would only realize the pain if you suffer something such as this”
I would never suffer something LIKE THIS because I would never “forget” my kids in the car, period.
Whether she killed them deliberately or not, even if this was an “accident,” its an accident that could have been avoided if she had paid attention. Her children are dead because she failed to provide sufficient care for them. I hope she does live with remorse and regret and i hope it tears her apart…anything less would not be just.
betcha bitch went to Kuwait! kidfree!
*I do not know a parent alive who hasn’t fallen asleep for a nap … things happen… sometimes very bad thing*
Not everyone has taken a nap while their kids were up. I have never lie down and let my girls go out the door. When my girls were little and I took a nap they were either asleep or a chair pushed up to the door (kids are creative ? )
Mothers who lie down and let their children do whatever is neglecting and that is why things like that happen.
You grew up with her? Your probably as stupid as she is. Unless she was under the influence of some kind of controlled substance, you don’t forget that your kids are right outside in the car in front of your home. I’m sure she loved them, the question is, did she love herself more and the happiness that she thought she was going to have in Kuwait not being tied down with two small children. Many people said the same thing about Susan Smith…she was a loving and caring mother also, but when you have low self esteem, a man can talk some dumb women into anything, such as GETTING RID OF THE KIDS!…Wake up!
Ahem, my 5 year old grand daughter plays video games, PSP player, uses a computer goes to my 4×4 pickup truck and retireves articles for me when I forget them i.e. a purse, her brothers bottle… when I babysit. So unless her 5 year old had some kind of disability there is no way in Hell he could not get in and out of a Honda fucking Civic. As far as judging someone we dont’ know well either she killed her kids in persuit of a new life with her new man, or someone else had anothe rmotive. This is no simple case of these little ones crawling into a Honda Civic and not having the dextarity to let themselves back out.
Well said, Susan. “Sumpin’ aint rite” with this situation.
I agree with Lori. How do you lose you two year old for long enough for this to happen? At the very least, shouldn’t that be called neglect?
the fat bitch killed
Sounds like she thought she’d make a fresh start sans kids. Sick.
There absolutely should be charges. Even if they can’t prove she did it on purpose. I am sick of hearing about giving sympathy to parents that “misplace” their kids. How incredibly low on your priority list do the kids have to be for you to forget that they are in the car with you? I misplace my keys not my kids. Curious if any of these people have ever forgotten a gallon of milk i their cars? Probably not.
I have personally known women more than capable of ditching their kids in favor of a new man. When I left my ex, an ex-friend told me to let him have the kids because no man would want me if I already had someone else’s kids. My reaction? Well it sure as hell wasn’t lock them in a car and let them die. I said if someone wouldn’t date me because of my kids, then I wanted nothing to do with him.
Sadly, I know someone else who recently tried to give her kids up for adoption so she could get her BF back. What the hell? I just don’t follow that logic.
Her myspace makes her seem like a pretty happy person for having just lost her kids..
*sigh*
That’s OK, wait until Stacey darlin’ gets a load of the Muslim version of women’s rights. Sometimes my faith in Karma is the only thing that keeps me sane.
What goes around, comes around……
There is no such thing as Karma.Easter bunny?Fake too,like Jesus.
Huh? What was that?
*laugh*
There is definetely something fishy… however I propose that it’s still too early put all the blame on her shoulders. Remember.. they couldn’t find the kid’s dad. He may be in Honduras, or he may have been waiting in the bushes for his kids to get home, then get some revenge on mom for finding a new man. It wouldn’t be too surprising. Anyway, I think we’ve all seen our kids fall asleep in the car. Have they ever ended up on the floor as opposed to laying in the seat? I know mine haven’t. Makes this even stranger.
Too few deaths this year? You don’t know what you are talking about. There have been 33 deaths of children left in hot cars this year. ONE IS TOO MANY!!!!
Consider this: A 5 year old gets into an unlocked car to play “driving like Daddy”. The temperature outside is 89 degrees. After 10 minutes the temp in the car is now 108 deg. In 20 minutes the temp in the car will climb to 118 deg. The child wants out but is now overcome by heatstroke and is unable to open the door and save herself. The lesson here is LOCK YOU CAR DOORS AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT HOME!
They died from HYPOTHERMIA, not Heatstroke!
admin – No. Hyperthermia.
Ok i did pick up on that at first and thought it was odd that the cause of death was hypothermia. So i got out the dictionary and looked it up. Hypothermia is ; subnormal body temperature.
Subnormal means less than normal.That indicates that they froze to death.
But you look at the picture at the top of the page and there is no snow etc. It looks like a sunny place.
Either way, i too wonder how she didnt notice they were gone.
I have five kids, and yes, there have been times when i have lay down for a nanna nap during the day. ( five kids under 7 is tiring) But i always made sure that the house was secure and they could not do any damage. It was usually a fifteen minute nap that i would set my alarm for.( 15 mins can do wonders) and all mums have an inbuilt sensor, when the kids are too quiet, something is up. The worse my kids ever did while i had a nap was pour tomato sauce into the rice bubbles. Usually they just watched The Wiggles for fifteen mins.
I just dont see how she slept so soundly and for long enough for her kids to get out the door and die in the car of hypothermia. Wouldnt it take a while for a child to either freeze or boil to death?
admin – Hyperthermia. We even gave you a link to the wikipedia entry for hyperthermia. It’s the opposite of hypothermia.
Thankyou admin for setting me straight. I really need to wear my glasses when reading…:)
admin – That’s why we’re here.
Well Andrea, since Daddy is back in the Honduras, or wherever deadbeat Daddies go, I doubt the 5 year old was pretending to “drive like Daddy”.
I don’t get how you could lose track of two children under the age of 5 long enough for them to get outside and get in the car. She should be charged with murder, but she won’t even be charged with neglect. As another poster commented, if she isn’t charged, I hope she goes to Kuwait to live. I hear it’s really nice there for women.
What happened to the good old days of mothers putting babies in microwaves or ovens……….
…..and least it was quick
This case has alarm bells going off in my head. After reading Andrea’s post i agree that it doesnt take long for tradegy to strike and kids can be overwhelmed by heat very fast. At the same time i think, this was not one child in the car, it was two. When my five year old is in the car the first thing he does is blast the horn..and keeps blasting it until he is ramoved from the car or restrained in his chair. Im also wondering how a two year old managed to get out and into the car without help. The minute my front screen door slams im heading out the frontdoor calling my kids back in. Where was the mum when the kids were climbing into the car?
Kids make noise, and most parents know that when the kids are quiet they are usually into mischief. Why didnt she notice?
This needs to be investigated more thoroughly.
Not buying this. I’ve got 4 kids. Can’t say that any of them over the age of 2 wouldn’t have been able to let themselves out.
I’d like to be able to give the benefit of some doubt, but I can’t.
Somehow this one just makes me sad.
When I was two my mom accidentally locked me in her Civic. I was in a carseat in the back and she tapped on the window and said “Let Mommy in please.” It took me all of five minutes to get off my seatbelt (the carseat IS designed to keep kids in after all), climb to the front and pop the lock for my mom. A FIVE year old and a two year old can’t put their heads together and figure out how to open the door of an unlocked vehicle??? Yeahhhhh….I’m going to have to be a cynical bastard and be all suspicious. 0_o
Hell, i have a 4×4 WITH child saftey locks. Im always growling at my 5 year old because he winds down the window, reaches out and opens the door from the outside instead of waiting for me to open the door for him. Now while i think he is a very clever child ( mothers are biased ) he is not a genius.
This story gives us good reason to be cynical, suspicious bastards!
i’m not voting on this one, no idea what went on there. i can’t imagine a “loving mother” forgetting to get the kids out of the car, but if there’s so many people stating she was a loving mother, i don’t want to guess either way.
be it murder or an accident, this is a fucking tragedy!
When I read this story, I was formulating what to say about it. And I was happy to see that my thoughts had already been covered, right from the beginning.
This woman WAS at minimum, negligent. Period. There is no other explanation for how those children were out of her sight long enough to DIE (unless she killed them deliberately).
I have no sympathy for parents who “lose” their children. It doesn’t take that much to keep little ones with you or near you at all times. A modicum of responsibility is all it takes.
I was at the Smithsonion A&S museum on Saturday and I saw a little girl alone and crying. I walked over to her and asked if she was lost and she nodded. I told her we would go to the help desk and find her parents. (I never touched her, BTW – just pointed and walked along side her as we walked). This man at the desk GRABBED her arm, and I told him DON’T TOUCH HER! and he backed off and we all walked over to security. I asked the child if she wanted me to stay with her, and she nodded.
Then the security guard told me to leave – said I couldn’t stand there blocking the desk. She told me – “we handle lost kids “umpteen times” a week”. I said “but THIS child is terrified” and I refused to move.
Finally, my family told me to move before I got arrested (no lie). and we walked out. As we were leaving a pre-recorded message when over the PA system “We have a lost child at the security area..”.
My daughter was in shock. She said she could not believe that there are so many lost kids that they have a pre-recorded message for it. I was ANGRY!
How the HELL can a parent lose their child like that? It is unbelievable! There were thousands of people milling around that museum.. HOLD YOUR KIDS HAND!! Put them in a stroller. Put them on a wrist leash. Whatever. But my God! Statistically there were probably at least a few pedophiles in that group, and possibly worse.
Sorry – it really pissed me off, and I am still angry all around. At the parent (Daddy, I think) who didn’t care enough to keep track of his kid, at the help-desk man who grabbed a lost child, and at the security guard who treated it like it was “no big deal”. I know this – it was a big deal to that little girl!
That rocks Mazzi. You kick ass for that. It is tough though. There is not much you can do to help. Like you said your family had to drag you away so you would not get in trouble. I see people abusing their kids at Wal-Mart (it’s so ghetto) all the time and you are the one that ends up looking confrontational if you try to help. I pulled that once. This lady was being really mean to her 2 yr old at Wal-Mart, I was fuming the whole time. Then she reached over and grabbed his toy and through it on the ground with force to teach him a lesson. That was the final straw. When I saw the look on his face. He wanted to cry but looked to scared to cry. I uttered to my to the person I was with “That is child abuse!” and the crazy bitch heard me. It started this riot. She ended up yelling at me. And telling me “I did not understand because I probably had a husband but hers was dead! And if I wanted her son I could take him! (that was tough).” I looked at her and said there are alot of reasons and circumstance that trigger child abuse but it is still abuse.” She started crying. It was weird I think I really got to her. Not the normal situation at Wal-Mart (just one of things I picked up on). Anyway, we walked away fast in the heat of the moment (I did not know what else to do), and lost our place in line. The other people in line were totally on my side.
I took my kids to Perth Zoo last year and on a trip to the toilet with the kids i overheard this mum screaming at her son that he HAD to use the toilet NOW! He was crying and telling her he could not do it so she started slapping him. This went on for the duration that we were in the bathrooms and i could not keep quiet. ( She must have smacked him about 10 times.) I called out over the top of the stall,” Gee…i wish i could shit on cue.”
You would have thought that i had called her whore or something the way she reacted.
She charged out of the stall, screaming at me and telling me i had no clue what it was like dragging a child around the zoo. I looked at my five kids and started laughing. She was so mad and her kid was crying and she started screaming at him to shut up. I told her its hard to stop crying when you have been slapped so much and screamed at.
She acted like the whole thing was her little boys fault, and told him that he was a bad boy and to look at what he had done.
It was crazy shit. They get angry because they dont like being seen for what they are. They blame the kids for their lack of self control. We need to keep confronting parents like this and calling them up when we see them being abusive. If we did, less parents would cross that line.
It is really cool to hear someone else feel the same way. I feel it is almost as if you were put there at that moment. Not thinking like a crazy vigelante just saying. Some moments are meant to happen. You get the instinct of when and when not to react. I have seen shit go down in that Wal-Mart for years and that was the only time I ever reacted. And like your crazed mom, I really got to her. Good stuff.
Good job Amy!
You should’ve pushed that bitch on the toilet, slapped her around a few times and demanded that she apologize to her kid!
but since that would’ve gotten you arrested, what you did was cool, too. ;)
While I agree with what you did I can not help but wonder about that poor little boy. If a parent does that in public imagine what she did to the poor child when they got OUT of public view…Perhaps reporting this person to security, sticking around to get her name, and reporting her to Child Custody services, or something like that would probably be more beneficial for the child. JMT.
*grin* Have I told you that I love you lately Maz?
We all love Mazz…she kicks ass.
I don’t think I am cool enough to do the whole “Mazz I love you thing around here…. However I also think Mazz is pretty kick ass!!! Is it your B-Day soon? (vibe pics up it could be your B-Day) Just saying.. I drop it when it’s thought.
Oh go on whiteiris, i think your pretty cool…ok, ok, thats my ass kissing done for the week;P
Sure you’re cool enough whiteiris. I’d have to say you qualify to be one of “us”. Pretty much everybody who comments regularly here is important to me and keeps me coming back to this Blog.
Uhhhhhh…. thanks?
I think you guys are pretty awesome too =)
/Big PYSIH Group hug
Mazzi, when my kids were smaller i never let them walk around in public without wearing a wrist leash. I always got dirty looks and comments because as far as some were concerned, i was walking my child, not a dog!
But you know, i never LOST my kids.
As for the pre recorded message…thats fucked up!
I never lost mine either, and I didn’t use the wrist leash. I just rarely took her places that there were huge crowds (I don’t believe that is appropriate for kids) and she either held my hand or stood right beside me in shops. I would have used a leash had it been necessary, but it never was.
Had one we had to use the wrist leash on, we had no choice. Even then, she learned how to quietly remove it and would make a break for it.
I still believe that one of these 2 kids would have opened the door as soon as they started to get uncomfortable. I don’t know the how or the why, but mom did it.
I too used a harness with a “leash” on it with my little ones. One busy Christmas at the mall, some lady had the nerve to look down her boney ass nose and sneer at me with a “how dare you treat your child like some common dog” I looked at her and politely, in a whisper, said “umm, thanks and fuck you, at least I know where my child IS and that he WILL be leaving here with ME today, not with some child molester in a van to be taken off to the mountains and killd” she looked at me with such shock, I wanted to smack her smug ass.
Anyway, I used to work at a rather large furniture store here in Colorado and one Sunday, one of our busiest, tons of people milling around, a lady came up casually to the front desk and asked for the manager very calmly. I came out and asked her what I could help her with, picture this, she is nonchalantly putting on her chapstick and as she is she says “welp, I can’t find my son” I said “okay well how old is he?” “five” she says, I said “what was he wearing?” “jeans and a green tee-shirt with a dinosaur on it.” “Okay, well where did you see him last?” as I am calling the entrances to have them locked down she says “well, he was in the car, he was napping and I didn’t want to wake him up” MY JAW HIT THE FLOOR “you left your five year old in the car asleep in a extremely busy parking lot full of strangers in the heat, are you kidding me?” she looked at me like I just stole her lunch money. I sent every available person out in the parking lot and throughout the store to look for this child AND called the police…..guess what? When they found him, which thank god they did, he wasn’t wearing anything close to what she said he was AND she had the nerve to yell at this poor baby about wandering off. I tell you right now if I was who I am today (I was 19 and a little soft spoken then) I would have taken her by the back of the neck and rammed her head into a hope chest. I say it here all the time…..ANYONE can have a child and it’s not right!!!
It’s kind of crazy. I was the same at 19. If I saw a kid being treated bad, even back then, it made me nutso. So how did WE have more motherly concern at those young ages than some of these women have at twice as old?
When I was about 18 or 19, I told this woman- who was like 35 with 3-4 kids, that she should not give her baby Coke in it’s baby bottle. This was back in the days when bottles were glass, and there had been a bunch of news stories about it. I was nice (I SWEAR!!!) and tactful about it, but I was really worried for the kid.
Needless to say, Mama started yelling at me, telling me to shut up and she would do whatever the fuck she wanted and who the hell was I blah blah blah. And damned if that baby didnt drop the bottle during the tirade. And damned if the bottle didn’t explode.
As much as I wanted to laugh at the bitch, I didn’t. I was really scared for the kids. The rage in this womans face was terrifying, and I was worried that they were gonna get it later.
That is a real fear. All these stories – the boy in the bathroom, the walmart wench, the selfish neglectful mom – is the kid gonna get the wrath of Mom being called out later on?
Yeah Mazzi i do worry about that too. I know when i was a kid the school rang home to ask about a bruise on my face. My dad did the whole charm thing and told them how id smacked my head on a door knob while half asleep trying to put on my slippers before i went to the bathroom….it was bullshit and all that happened was dad got a pat on the back for being father of the year and if i ever had bruises after a hiding i was kept home from school until they faded away.
So yeah, confronting someone always has its risks. But i just CANT physically stop my mouth from opening when i see a child being mistreated.
I also think it’s weird that she apparently couldn’t find her kids when they were right outside her door in the car. Come on – the thought never once occurred to her to check OUTSIDE including in the car? Just sounds incredibly wrong to me. Sorry – but not buying into her story.
Yeah, you look at that picyure of her house. If the car was out on the driveway as reported then surely she would have walked past the car when she was searching for them. At least glanced in the window. And just because to all outward appearances she looked to be the ‘loving mother’ doesnt mean she was.
No charges, no conviction …. no different than Casey Anthony and her string of never ending lies…..yet, Stacey Mendieta deserves a story here?
Been following Casey Anthony for weeks – that one sickens me also. But in PYSIH’s defense, Casey is getting way more press than she deserves, it’s being overplayed. I don’t blame Admin for not wanting to deal with that mess.
Casey Anthony has my vote for hell, mostly for being a puke.
How long would it take for a 5 year old kid to die from hyperthermia? I’m sure it takes more than an hour and no healthy, rambunctious 5 & 2 year old kid can sit still for a whole hour, especially in the heat!
Im not sure how long it would take,but my dad had a dog a long time ago that he drove everywhere with. Anyways, the car broke down one day and rather than walk the dog in the stinking heat ( the dog was rather old ) he would down a window, left a container of water in the car and made the 20 min walk home. It took another 15 mins to find a tow rope and get back to his care, and by that time the dog was dead. Now it was a big dog, a Staffy.
So i think iT really wouldnt take a kid long to be overwhelmed by heat in a closed car. They wouldnt have died right away…maybe lapsed into unconsiousness first…either way, they were in that car for a long time. And the question remains, JUST HOW LONG DID SHE LOOK FOR THEM? and HOW DID SHE NOT NOTICE THEY WERE MISSING?
This was no accident . Bitch was hard up for a man! An illegal immigrant and a Kuwait native?? Over her kids? Gross.
She likes it up the ass. She wants a Bukkake with many sweaty, fat bellied, hairy guys aiming to cream-pie her afterwards.
I think if we spent a few hundred thousand dollars apiece on these fine individuals, they could be fixed and then be welcome additions to our perfect society.
But why would we WANT to? Id rather give my $ to the victims of crimes. Obviously not the victims of THIS crime, as they are dead…but i honestly think abused and neglected kids could use the assistance more than idiots like Stacey.
I did some research using google on this person. It seems that she really cared about her children. I don’t think she would have done it on purpose. The rest of her life, she’ll have to live with herself for her act of neglect– that is punishment enough for her. I hope she never has kids again.
Bullcrap!
I posted a copy of the link to this story on a dating website’s forum and an interesting question was asked by one of the readers over there:
Is Stacey still dating the guy from Kuwait?
Stacey Mendieta faces two counts of child abuse resulting in death, according to the Douglas County District Attorney’s office.
Anyone got more info on this?
Yeah Amy, here’s a link to the mug shot:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/photos/2008/oct/17/78598/
Here’s the story:
“Mother of kids who died in car charged with abuse
By Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published October 17, 2008 at 4:53 p.m.
Updated October 17, 2008 at 4:53 p.m.
The mother of two children who died from heat exposure in a car in Castle Pines North in August was charged with child abuse today.
Stacey Mendieta, 28, is being held at Douglas County Jail on $50,000 bond, after she turned herself in today. Her next hearing date has not been set.
She is facing two counts of child abuse resulting in death. If convicted, she could face 16 to 48 years in prison.
“Parents have a legal responsibility to make sure their children are in a safe environment and appropriately supervised at all time,” said Douglas County district attorney Carol Chambers.
On Aug. 20, Mendieta’s two children, Jasmine Mendieta-Van Herpen, 5, and Nathan Mendieta, 2 were found dead in a red Honda parked in front of their Castle Pines North home.
They had been reported missing earlier by their mother.
Autopsies showed that the two children died from complications of hyperthermia, or exposure to extreme heat, from being inside the vehicle.”
This is good. Im glad she has been charged. I honestly thought she was going to walk away.
Those kids deserved justice and i hope to god they get it.
Their death was aviodable. Stacey should have been paying attention.
Yeah, I just posted the Rocky Mountain News story, complete with mugshot. For some reason it didn’t show up in the Recent Comments.
gee she does look rather upset. this must have been recent as well.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/17/mother-kids-who-died-car-charged-abuse/?partner=RSS
This poor mother and family are already in HELL…..There is truely no evidence that this mother did anything wrong to harm her children on purpose,,,it was a terrible terrible accident that this mother will have to live with the rest of her life..Get over it,,,And Carole Chamber and her the District Attorney office is a bunch of ever changing newby attornies starving for this type of bureauracy this is just BS hunting for a media story…There is no Child Abuse in this case….STacey I support you anyway I can …..An Accident is Accident, and unfortunately it ended in two terrible tragedies….Get over it people, and make sure it doesn’t happen to your children, friends or neighbors.
Nothing wrong to harm her children?
So it’s okay to lay down in the middle of the day while little ones are up running around? It’s okay to go off and do things and ignore them so they end up dead?
You come on here, touting that you support her. What the fuck gives you the right to devalue these children in such a horrid manner? Your not going to convince a single person this was an accident. This tampon applicator spends her time cruising online looking for a new guy and finds one from the middle east.
She then plans to meet up with him, move to Kuwait. But wait, we got a problem, he only wants this cunt lesion if she doesn’t have kids. Don’t even try to tell me he would take these kids. If you think that then you know nothing of the customs over there.
So, just before she’s set to leave the kids end up dead. Now you want to tell us the 5 & Dime Sperm Bank had nothing to do with it. These kids are dead because she killed them. Plain and simple.
Chances are pretty good , the best she will get is probation of some kind. Colorado has tried quite a few simular cases , were most of them, the parent / baby sitter accually left the child in the car. Yvonne Mabry, the childs grandmother, she was drunk and high on pain killers. She got five years of probation.
Diana Maria Rodriguez was given probation after she pled guilty to criminally negligent homicide in the death of her son, Jovan Rodriguez, a 13-month-old boy, who died after being left locked in a car for eight hours while his mother worked at McDonald’s.
These are all clear cut and dry cases of child neglect, Its going to be a hell of allot harder to go after Stacey Mendieta.
It’s time Colorado grows some balls and deals with this. Nothing like the present to bring back the Arkansas Fence Post.
Yeah, that’s what I figure too. There’s been just way too much public outcry for LE to ignore it. Probation seems the logical outcome, even though it wouldn’t be my first choice. I think some jail time is in order.
Lemme see. A 5 year old and a 2 year old? well i have a 4 year old and a 2 year, close enough, so let me say what would happen in this situation here. Even if they were in their car seats, the 4 year old can and will unlock her car seat, free the 2 year old from that torture device we call a car seat, get into the front seat with the 2 year old in tow and while she was busy turning on the headlights, the four year old would be laying on the horn to the tune of happy birthday to you. Not to mention switching on the radio, interior light, moving the seat AND checking for old french fries all in the time it takes me to RUN to the house to unlock the door in the rain….. im not judging anyone…. i’m just sayin’
Or they would knock the car out of gear :-)
Patti you have a way with words
Well. This does seem fishy. My five year old doesn’t know how to open the door from inside my car, but its a “vintage” car, built in the year 1990. If it is a newer car though, you might think the child would be able to easily open the door, being that the car’s material is lighter weight than steel (like my car for example) and could get her and her little brother out of danger. Poor children. I’m sorry that whatever happened, for whatever reason, those children are now being cared for by more loving and responsable parents.
This story has really been playing on my mind for the past hour or so… I’m just not sure what to think. I feel sorry for Stacey, I truly do, this has obviously caused her a lot of pain and I certainly don’t believe that she wanted her children dead. However, she only has herself to blame. She was obviously not aware that her kids were in the car, else she would not have had to call the cops when she couldn’t find them. That leads you to the obvious question of how your young kids are able to get out of the house unnoticed, get into your car AND lock themselves in. You’re pretty much lacking in some basic parenting skills there. She was careless and stupid and now she has to live with the pain of losing her children due to her own negligence for the rest of her life.
In my opinion, this was a tragic accident and a mistake that should never have happened. And I’m sure that Stacey is truly regretful for what she did and hates herself more than anyone of us possibly ever could.
Something is very fishy about Staceys’ story. If you can’t find your kids inside the house, don’t you immediately look outside.
My point is that I knew her as a person who grew up the way I did, I can’t just cast her aside and say that everything is just a bunch of excuses, it was a mistake that she would take back 1,000 times over. That’s it, I’m done wasting my energy on trying to prove point after point, even if I try to elaborate, it’s apparently not enough.
We are not asking you to “cast her aside.” We just want you to shut the fuck up and stop ranting about it. Go do somthing useful like visit her in prison…or better still, why dont you go tend to the graves of her dead children.
Amy, you are VICIOUS, girlfriend. I love it! Way to lay it down like it is.
See, there is one part of this story that everyone seems to be missing. They keep saying how their kids would be able to unlock the doors and get out and save the other child BUT the doors on the car were already unlocked when the kids were found. So, how do two children die in an unlocked car and never get out. This is kind of devious but I have the feeling that this mother made sure that those doors stayed locked and knew where those kids were. This story is very sad and yes I do think that this was murder.
No she does NOT deserve to go to hell. I like how this site tries to portray her as this desperate neglectful mom that just wanted to ditch her kids. Get your facts straight. She was granted permission by the courts to take her children to Kuwait, meaning her intentions were genuine in bringing them. As far as her ex-husband, (and the jobs most Americans won’t do) he became estranged like many men in America do, and couldn’t cope with the responsibility as a father and a man. It’s not about citizenship, it’s about stepping up as a parent, which he failed to do but that does not make her less of a person. It was a true tragedy that occured and people need to stop judging and making idiotic assumptions. She worked the night shift and was very tired that day, she was saving money to go to Kuwait and start over WITH her children whom she deeply loves. I went to high school with her in Hawaii, we are military brats, she played basketball and I believe she was in NJROTC, she was a good human being who made a mistake. The kids were playing while she slept and they managed to go outside and ended up in her car, yes they were unsupervised but working nights, it is hard to fully function the next day without rest. Her parents left for work around 6:30am and she probably thought: hey I can save money by trying to stay up with the kids vs. expensive daycare. I don’t blame her, I understand her position. I worked nights in the air force for 2 years and I know how hard it is to go in at 7pm and get off at 4am or 5am and try to function in the day. You people can say what you want but I knew her and she would not do that to her babies, her life. Of course she has to live with it but people make mistakes, she didn’t misplace her kids like a set of keys like someone said, she just fell victim to horrible circumstances that were out of her hands. So sorry pysih.com Stacey is not the one this time, feed upon Casey Anthony.
And yes it is possible for kids to play in a car, and succomb to the effects of heat. They were more than likely playing and being that they were so young did not realize how hot it got and became weakened before they realized they needed to get out of the car.
Excuses, excuses. Lot’s of parents work late hours – I worked 2nd and 3rd shift when my oldest was just a baby and my wife went to school, but my kid was SAFE before I slept. Yeah, it’s a tragedy, and the tragedy is that two children had to pay with their lives for mom’s poor decisions. Now Stacey has to answer for them – hopefully it’ll just be probation, as has been Colorado’s track record in cases like this, but to think she should walk away without any consequences at all is naive and childish.
Hey gross military brat anally-fixated bitch:
“it’s about stepping up as a parent” your words.
I guess your friend Stacey really did her part to “step up” as a parent, huh? You are convoluted in your thought process. You say that Stacey’s ex didn’t “step up” as a parent? Well, he proved to be the better person for it in the end, considering that he just bounced on your ho ho friend and the kids. At least he didnt kill anyone.
Oh, sorry. Your ho ho military brat friend. LOL.
It’s no excuse at all, it’s a tragic event. She was a single mom. What do you want done then? nothing I can say will bring them back but she will suffer the rest of her life for her mistake, isn’t that enough? apparently for you it’s not. Naive and childish? her kids were her life and she never wanted this to happen. Accidents happen, we are human, we are not perfect. Unless you are in her shoes then you don’t understand.
You’re missing the point. I don’t buy into the stories that Stacey wanted to get rid of her kids or that she’s a bad person, and I’m sure she cared about them as much as any other mom. But part of our job as parents is to do everything possible to make sure accidents, preventable accidents, don’t happen to our kids. They depend on us to do that.
If I fail to do this, and my child gets hurt, who’s to blame? I am, of course. You can’t just say, “Oh, what a terrible accident.” and leave it at that. Someone has to be responsible – it seems harsh, because no one meant for it to happen, but it’s a fact of life.
Suppose Stacey was driving her car, fell asleep at the wheel, and wrecked her car – and the two kids died in the accident. How is this any different that what happened? She wouldn’t have meant for it to happen, but accidents happen when you’re overworked and overtired. Do you see what I’m getting at?
No. You don’t realize that she will be in a state of hell for the rest of her life. If she were to be prosecuted, what justtice does that serve? someone who made an innocent mistake to sit and rot in prison for the rest of their lives? on top of losing their world, and then after prison, what will her life be? as a convicted felon, trying to get a job? honestly I don’t get your point, if we sat here and tried to sift through all the accidents and mistakes that people have done then half of America would be in jail. Half the world in fact. It’s sad to say this but people in her shoes have been known to commit suicide. They lose everything and figure: why continue living? Of course I don’t want that from her, I want her to be strong and move on somehow but to never forget.
Mioshi: We really do not need to vote her into hell, she put herself there. I find the entire situation suspicious. I have children. When my one son was 2 he was able to get out of his car seat by himself and start flying around the back of my SUV while I was driving. Damn near gave me a heart attack every time he did it. Another one was Houdini, at home and at school. He would just up and disappear. One, would not like to wait for the car to come to a full and complete stop before undoing his child seat and opening the door. The point is, the children were not infants. Nor does anyone say that they were mentally impaired. Most kids by the age of 2 understand the mechanics of car doors. I can’t imagine them becoming unconscious at the same time. One would have dropped before the other. The other, having natural fear, would have tried to get help. No, we do not know what happened. Only your friend does. It is unimaginable to lose both of your children. She must live with that hell every day of her life. And even though I have suspicions as to the cause, I still have sympathy for her as one mom to another.
Blondie: Do you really think that she hovered over the car and watched as her children died in broad daylight in a safe neighborhood, in the middle of the day? There was a witness who saw the children playing outside right before noon that day. They climbed in the car because they were playing, and their mom was sleeping. The car was unlocked because it was in a decent town in Colorado where it is likely that there is no crime. They didn’t have a care in the world and would not feel threatened to honk the horn or escape the car because they were playing. They were not aware that the car heated up to upwards of 118 degrees because they are innocent kids who are having a good time. The heat overwhelmed them to the point where it overtook their bodies and they sadly perished. YES it can happen. No, Stacey didn’t want this to happen, who would? Nobody! get real people, bad things happen to good people.
I don’t care what you people say or think, growing up, Stacey and I were military brats, meaning that our parents were on constant standby with a possiblity of being deployed to countries like Iraq, Iran,Japan, anywhere in this cold world. And when they were gone, we didn’t know if they would return, what was going on or anything ( for the most part) technology has changed today but my point is that anything could happen to them and if it did, they were defending this country. We grew up essentially not knowing if our mom & dad would be taken away from us. We are different from you civilian people, who take things for granted, things like freedom.
So growing up like that, do you really think she meant harm to her babies? the answer is no. The difference is that I know her, she is somebody to me, what happened was horrible but she does not need to be the whipping girl. It’s easy to say: Yeah, she deserves to go to hell, or she deserves jail time. What will that accomplish? when she get’s out of jail, she will be an empty hollow person, stripped of everything, with nothing but shame in her heart. By the time she get’s out of jail, you people will have long forgotton about her and probably be posting your lame comments on someone else whom you really know nothing about. So do me a favor, and try to be human like by showing respect, by simply letting her babies rest in peace and know that in her mind, she is already in hell.
What the hell does being a military brat have to do with anything? I was a military brat. My father served 3 tours in Vietnam. I knew a lot of kids whose Dad’s did not come home in one piece or at all. I had an uncle that came home with half of a head and a cousin that could have been buried in a shoe box. So what? The point is, she was sleeping while her children were dying. She was not supervising her children. In my line of work, I have worked almost 40 straight hours, no sleep on numerous occasions. And when I got home, I kept myself awake to supervise my kids. Yes, she is in hell. She must live with the guilt for the rest of her life. Yes, please support her. But do not attempt to make excuses for her. There is no excuse for 2 dead babies. No, I don’t think she deserves to go to hell and does not deserve any jail time if it was an honest accident.
Quite frankly she could have been Mother Theresa in a past life and it still wouldnt excuse her obvious neglect and culpability in the deaths of her children. Two dead babies makes all her past “good deeds” null and void, and if this was anyone other than your friend you would feel the same way.
I never understood how knowing someone growing up makes one defend something they do as an adult.
Just because you grew up similarly to them or grew up around them doesnt make you an expert on the things they will do for the rest of their lives.
The thing about people–especially people who have no soul- is they will tell you something, or act one way in your presence; but when theyre alone in all their misery things are completely different.
Honestly, if someone I knew from childhood was profiled on here; I would be a little shocked and think back to see if anything could have warned me, but I doubt that I would defend them. I can’t say I know anyone that well. I would be sad of course, but I cant say I would make myself look like a retard defending them for something they more than likely did.
I know this lady wasnt charged with anything…but I cant fathom why. What kind of mother lets her kids play outside while shes napping. I have an 8 year old, and while she doesnt necessarily need to nap if I am, she certainly knows better than leave the house without asking permission and letting me know where she’s going. She also knows to check in every half hour–if I dont hear from her in that time, Im out looking for her.
But, I guess thats why it takes a village to raise a child–because there are parents who just dont give a fuck and less important things take precedence over the most important in their worlds.
That’s the whole thing about being profiled on here, they can take a story and run with it, twist it around and make anyone look like a monster. The whole point of me talking about the past is to confirm that: yes she is a real & decent person, yes she is worthy of defending (which I will continue to do) and no she is not a shitty SINGLE mother (if you would have read my previous comments, then you would have comprehended that). Apparently it’s not enough, it’s never going to be enough, as long as there are people like you on here putting your 2 cheap cents in right? Right.
We here at PYSIH put our 2 cheap cents in because we care about children and victims. I said it before and I will say it again: IF this was truly an honest accident, then I do not believe that she deserves jail time. Was she negligent? Yes and she will have to live with this the rest of her life. There is no excuse for allowing your extremely young children to play outside unsupervised in ANY neighborhood. I don’t care how good a neighborhood it is. This is a perfect example of what can happen. And why you are up on your pedestal, why don’t you ask the neighbor who saw the children playing unsupervised, around the car why they didn’t intervene?
Firstly, here in Australia we dont have two cent peices anymore, so when i make a comment its more likely to be ten cents worth!! Still cheap but not as cheap as two cents!
And we did not make your “friend” look like a monster. She did that herself when she failed to provide proper supervision for her children.
Im a mum. have five kids, the eldest being 13 and the youngest 7. Even now, if they get up to use the loo or a drink of water or wake up from a nightmare etc…i am fully awake as soon as i hear them. Its a mum thing. And mums all over the world are the same. How the fuck she slept thru two kids walking outside, playing and opening and closing car doors is beyond me. She should not have left them unsupervised. Then they would still be alive. It is her fault and ONLY her fault. Having a go at us will not change that. And nothing you say in her defense will chage our mind about that.
Yeah Amy. My kids fart in their sleep (all boys, lots of gas) and my radar goes off and I cock a head listening to identify which butt spit out said offensive gas. I’ve been so sleep deprived over the years that I would nod off standing in line. But no matter how bad it was, I never lost track of a child. I might be standing in the corner weeping hysterically, but they were all accounted for.
You stupid CUNT, Thus the name Blondie … do you know what day it is?
No.
Ok.
Well it’s time for you to shut the fuck up and check the URBAN Dictionary…..Nobody gives a shit about you or your boys. Seriously, check the Urban Dictionary because you are a Fucktard and a Cuntbag combined equally to bring you a cheap “American” judgemental ASShole.
LOL…She dropped the C- bomb!!! Me thinks someone has some anger issues. While you have your dictionary out dear look up the word SKANK…the definition is : Mioshi97.
That’s right sweetheart, I am a cunt. I am the first to admit it. And I never once asked you to give a shit about my kids. But hey, I know where all of my kids are at all times. Gee, yup just did a head count, all present and accounted for. You want me to bend over and take it up the ass because you are a veteran. Want me to drop to my knees and grovel at your whining that your little BFF is so fucking innocent? What, won’t Stacey let you get in her pants? I never once said she murdered her children. All I ever said was that she was responsible for their dying. There is a difference. Now why don’t you do everyone a favor and GO FUCK YOURSELF!
i dont believe I said anything about being a single mother. And I dont believe I said anything in that particular post about your “friend” whom you know so well because you played hopscotch as kids…I simply made a comment about people who defend their actions until theyre blue in that face.
Mioshi97, you are a fucktard.
Oh, let me correct myself. A “military brat” fucktard. LOL. Things dont add up with what went down with those kids dying and nothing you can say will prove otherwise. At the very least, your pal was a neglectful moron who didnt deserve children to begin with.
Go peddle your wares elsewhere moron.
go Fuck yourselves.
You are sub-mental, bitch.
Oh, excuse me. You are a sub-mental military brat.
LOL.
really, sub-mental? because You, are a psychologist? Like I said: well I meant to everybody talking shit: GO FUCK YOURSELVES….
I’m sorry, I meant to solely: you (poptart1): Go Fuck Yourself *LOL*
sub + mental meaning= ABOVE BRAIN, surely must mean that assholes like you will be the ones who fry in hell because they jump to conclusions and *ASS*+*ume* that Stacey neglected her kids just for the fuck of it.
*Don’t ASS-ume, because it makes an ASS out of you and ME.
well not me. Just YOU. Honestly “Blondie” do us a favor and check out Urban dictionary.com.
We dont assume that Stacey neglected her kids….her children are dead because she neglected to supervise them. Did she do it just for the fuck of it? Who knows…and frankly who cares. The kids are fucking dead. That is HER fault.
Tell me, who do you think is to blame for their deaths? Maybe its the kids fault for not properly supervising themselves. Maybe its the boyfriends fault for not having better taste in women. Maybe its the car manufacturers fault for not making the car child proof.
But we both know where the blame lies. With Stacey.
Do you think we give a flying fuck about your foul language and how loud you can yell? Do you think that if you insult us all we will change our minds and suddenly elect Stacey Mother ofthe Year?
You have reached the point of “The lady does protest too much.” ( i use the term ‘Lady’ loosly) Who exactly are you tryin to convince here?
Hey dummy, “SUB” means under or below. Like SUBmarine. Like SUB mental, you know, what you are. And mental does not mean brain, goof ball.
Maybe you need to get a dictionary. Put down the ho ho snackie cakes and read a book cooz.
I do however agree with Amy.
As soon as you become a mom, you develop supersonic hearing in relation to your kids. No matter how tired you are; you follow up on the noises you hear. They could be absolutely nothing, but mom radar doesnt decipher between non emergent and emergent noises so you just deem all emergent. As a MOTHER you are responsible for someone elses life…and if you arent ready for that, dont spread your legs.
I have supersonic ears too, I hear a bunch of assholes trying to pass judgement, but they can all lick my ass, fucking cuntbags.
wow!! just a little defensive there? I bet you wish you could lock us all in a car so you can be in a class with your friend
Good one.
If you got the facts straight, then you would know that Jasmine and Nathan were not “locked in” the car, they were playing innocently as their overworked mom slept( for human needs not murder or neglect.)
Maybe their goofy mom shouldnt have been staying up soliciting men on the internet when she should have been sleeping? Ever think of that one?
Her picture is gross, she is oily, nasty, fat with a pig nose and probably a whole lot like you skanky. You deserve each other. Ass licking and all.
You are a nasty ass vile bitch aren’t you?
Oh, excuse me. You are a nasty ass vile bitch military brat.
And a cooz.
No one here is intersted in licking your herpes infested asshole. That is your BF Skanky Stacey’s job. Supersonic ears? Good god, you are fucking DUMB!!!
A dumb military brat.
No. I’m a real Fucking Bitch who served this country, what the fuck have you done lately? I did my time, for 4 years. To what? serve the likes of your SHITTY ASSes? the answer is NO. Crucify yourself for 1 minute of your cheap time (Australlian, 10 cents & 2cheap-cents, or otherwise) and then get back to me. Fuck this website (which I found by Google) and Fuck you too. I deserve the right to speak the truth which is honest and accurate,(can’t say the same for you cuntbags *urban_dictionary*).
You are a liar, whore. You are a military wanna be fat ass who probably tried to join, but got rejected because of weight restrictions. And herpes on your asshole.
Now go eat a donut, fatty.
Oh, and FUCK YOU and your greasy ugly baby killing friend.
Yes, Mioshi you are a real fucking bitch. You are correct, at least you got something right.
An English professor. I’m impressed. “fucking cuntbags” is that in Miriam-Webster or Oxford English Language dictionary? Of all of the noises that hit my radar, the one that will spike it into hyper drive is NO NOISE. Nothing, zip, zilch, nada. Nothing screams “danger, danger, danger” more than not hearing a peep out of anyone. To me, silence is louder than a klaxon horn. When my boys are quiet, no good can ever come out of it. I much prefer the screaming rolling mass of arms and legs flying around the floor with the dogs barking and the cat screeching as they fight for control of the remote.
Girls! Girls! What IS going on here? Do we STILL have people who are having problems understanding what it means to be a parent? I swear honey, it’s just like what my mother used to say; you can lead a whore to water….oops, I mean you can lead a horse to water, but you can make her drink.
PMSL!!!
MEOW! You know us girls Max, once we sink our claws into something, we don’t let it go.
O I know only too well Blondie. I live with my wife and soon to be twenty-year-old daughter. Besides I was feeling kind of left out and pouty.
LOL. You have the opposite situation from me; you live with a lot of estrogen and I have enough testosterone in the house to make the Terminator cringe.
Our houshold consists of three females and four males. You’d think that would be pretty even…but i can assue you its not. Two of the males are teens and have enough testosterone to make up for four men!!! So we gals stick together.
It’s just this woman’s stupidity is so profound. And she has some weird anal fixation. That is freaky deaky. Then, you toss in the fact that she defends someone who is responible for the deaths of her children on the premise of them both being “military brats”? Absolutely sub-mental.
Well, I suppose what they say it true. Birds of a feather flock together. She sounds like she fits in with Stacey just fine.
Yeah Poptart. There is a fine line between defending someone and checking your common sense and intelligence at the door. That’s what makes me bonkers – is when people stop thinking for themselves and turn into lemmings.
She’s just gross and stupid. Void of all common sense, and moronic. She has fucked her friend more than anything because of her ignorance. I guess I owe this bitch a thank you, though. I am now convinced that her friend, who must be as big of a douche as she is, is a murderer. For a while, I just knew something was fishy with this story, but now I am convinced Stacey is a murderer.
Good job to trashballs like Mioshi97 that defend other pieces of trash. It’s a dirty job but someone, I suppose has to do it.
For me, fucktards like Mioshi97 who come out of the woodwork make it easier to believe that their friend is a scumbag, even if only by association-which is rare. Good job, stupid fuck. Stacey should be happy to have a friend like you. You sure know how to fuck shit up and make it worse on your friends. Congratulations!
Mioshi97, I said it before and I will say it again. You are a fucktard. Look it up. It is you. A fucktardian military brat.
poptart1, I compare your intelligence to the likes of idiotic Bush 1 and 2.(Insert Ass-hole-ness… that tries to make no sense here) perhaps you would not comprehend my reason of thought… perhaps you are a complete MORON altogether. I already see an image of your face, it’s fat,ugly,and mentally incapable of picturing what reality looks like…. wow did I just read your mind? I think I did! Jackpot. I may be a “military brat” AND a smart one LOL…. wait. AND a Veteran who has served this country for you, the stupid, lonely LOSER who thinks that it’s “ok” to talk shit about others when he simply needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP and lick my ass (as stated previously).
Hey trashball bitch:
Why do you keep trying to get people to lick your sickening ass? Can’t get laid probably because you are fat, oily and gross. Like your sickening friend. Moo, bitch, moo. Thats why you have to solicit people on the internet to stimulate your sick fantasies. Because no one would touch your useless, ugly ass in the real world.
And I am not into having sex with dogs, sorry honey. Keep trying, though. Whats wrong? Your dog friend Stacey isnt getting the job done anymore?
And my intelligence, bitch? It superceded yours about fifteen responses ago. You, bitch, are like Bush. You know, defending people out of loyalty at others expense….kind of like his loyalty to the oil companies? The war? You know. Sounds like you a whole helluva lot more than me, bitch whore. Sorry. You are so dumb. Does it hurt?
You are a pathetic, stupid, goofy, vile, moronic idiot. Plain and simple. Lonely enough to solicit web sites looking for someone to play with your butt hole. LOL. You are STUPID! Try another site to fulfill your sick depraved sexual fantansies.
Maybe set one up of your own, you could call it “Military Brats That Suck Ass”. You could put your fat, wrinkled, smashed in shovel face on the home page. Or maybe you shouldnt…..
Now go and fix yourself something to eat, fatty.
I can only hope if I do something stupid and hellworthy enough to be featured on this site (..I won’t be and I know that–beside the point though) anyway, I hope I have someone from “my chinese jumprope” days that comes to my never ending defense.
Someone that says “we grew up in such and such town and NO ONE in that town is capable of that; especially Amanda. (insert something about my parents profession here –because that makes a world of difference–)”–and then when someone says something that just pisses them off to no end, they tell them to “lick their ass”
LMMFAO!!! I know I should take this more seriously, but for cryin’ out loud, she looks like an imbecilic idiot.
But Min_Duhh, she taught us the new word of the day, fuckbag. :)
I will be forever greatful for learning that new word. :D
Min-Duh: Just know that if you do, in fact do something, nobody will give a shit…. nobody will come to your defense. The whole POINT of me wasting my time here is that I am defending somebody who is real, somebody who is worth giving a shit. Each one of us can look upon ourselves and ask: will anyone care? and if it were you, you would hang onto my every HONEST word, looking to prove a point, which I am here to do. All of you ignorant bastards would not understand, because if you truly believe in something, then maybe 1 person will see the truth. As far as this goes, you will never see the beautiful babies that were lost, you just see a way to exploit the person who lost them. If that is what get’s you off in life, then so be it. Just know I am a real person who will defend Stacey, (who made a fatal mistake by falling asleep after working the night shift) until I die myself.
Well, I know I will In fact NOT do anything to wind up with a write up here. I don’t beat up kids or let them fry in cars, I don’t own a gun and I only use knives to cut things in the kitchen. I don’t drink and drive. I don’t use drugs and I refrain from laying the smack down on animals. I am also not preferential to “pedophilia” or rape or torture. I think that pretty much covers everything I could do to gain PYSIH attention.
However, you are right on one point, NO ONE WOULD DEFEND ME. I pretty much associate myself with sane people. Logical people. People who live by the motto, “If you do the crime, you do the time”. No one would come forward and announce my recently discovered mental lapse or disease; because if they haven’t seen it by now, I don’t have one.
The post from above was based entirely on sarcasm. Did you catch that?
i have two kids myself. if she was that fucking tired she should have A) drank some coke or coffee or straight sugar to stay awake. B) ask someone else (family, close friend, trusted neighbor) to watch said children for a SHORT time or C) found a way to make them lay down and take a nap too. i’m a parent, which means i work around their schedule, they dont work around mine. she fucked up, and shall be punished.
I’m sane: did you not catch the 10 posts and sarcasm? Nobody beat up their kids unless you did. Check the facts you ignorant Fuck. Nobody gives a shit if you have guns or knives… ? (off topic much?) I am pretty fucking logical, I defend those that deserve to be defended ( against the likes of you VULTURES.) The whole point is that it was not a crime (meaning non-intentional) you ignorant Fuck. I did catch it, the question is, did you comprehend it?
Being sarcastic and being able to string a sentence together does not necsesarily mean you are sane.
And you cant say this isnt a crime because she didnt mean for them to die. Of course she didnt mean for them to die. But none the less they are dead. Because of her. And you think this should go unpunished?
Do you have kids? And do you leave them unsupervised while you go of for a nanna nap? And why dont we as mothers do such irresponsible things? Because it is in our childrens best interests to watch over them and ensure their safety. What she did was negligent and irresponsible.
Just say the kids had been playing in the street and someone had come tearing down the road and ran them down killing them….because they didnt mean to kill them should they be let off? No. You would be baying for blood if such a thing had happened. And rightly so. So why should there be one set of laws for everyone else and another set for Stacy just because she is your friend?
You know, as a mum, i cant imagine the hell one lives in when they are responsible for their childrens deaths. It must be terrible. I personally would kill myself if i ever did such thing. But just because she feels bad does not mean she is above the law.
As for if she is hell bound or not, well only God knows. Just because we at pysih click on “hellbound” when we vote does not mean she is headed there. I doubt God really gives a shit how the voting system here works.
But what she ( and you) are dealing with, is the result of HER actions…not ours.
Actually, captain save-a-ho, I wasn’t off topic.
I pointed out that I wouldn’t be featured on this site DUE TO THE FACT I don’t partake in the activities NECESSARY to be featured on this site. I was not saying your friend did beat up her kids–and I wasn’t accusing anyone of doing it either; again I was making a valid point which applied directly to being featured on this site.
As for you being logical, I think you may be logical in a clouded sort of way. I don’t think its possible for you to be objective in this case because you grew up similarly and played together as children. (Im curious to know, when is the last time you spent time with this woman, honestly?), and you want to defend her from the bottom of your soul.
I agree with Amy on what she said above about a car running over children, and if they said they didn’t mean to do it; well, then are they actually accountable? Same as in this case, she didn’t mean to do it–but it happened, and 2 children are dead. Someone SHOULD be held accountable for that. I honestly don’t think you are acting very adult with what you’re saying, seriously. You seem to have a temper and when things don’t go your way you turn to screaming and name calling–are you sure you aren’t in 3rd grade?
This site is basically opinion–and we are all entitled to our own. What is said about your “friend” may hurt you to read, but I bet we aren’t the only ones thinking it.
THE ANSWER IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. OH, i’M SORRY: LET ME BE LOGICAL, PRACTICAL,COMPREHENDABLE: no.
I will post until deemed un-neccessary, by the likes of you ig-noramus idiots. You lame, 10 cents, 20 cents and 2 cents *cheap* bastards, what have you. Regardless of price, I reign supreme on authority of the matter, being that I knew her and know her first hand… that stated, it does not change you as a person. You don’t go from, saint to sinner that quickly(as much as you want). If you have the balls to defend someone, then so be it. Let it all hang out right? ohhhhh no, you don’t understand why I would right? well check the dictionary for LOYALTY
Who thinks Mioshi and her comments are unnecssasary? I know i do…..wave goodbye now dear.
Bye Bye Bitch. You will be missed.
Mioshi, you are not exactly making your point when you say things like “You don’t go from, saint to sinner that quickly(as much as you want).” You’re right, a person does not go from being the bestest little girl in the whole wide world to being featured here on PYSIH at the snap of the fingers. You say little things like that and then claim loyalty. You contradict yourself and belittle yourself with comments like “I reign supreme on authority on the matter” which makes it extremely difficult to take you seriously. You come off as someone who believes that they are some kind of superhero wearing a cape with your hair a blowin’ in the wind, whose sole job is to protect poor little Stacey from the big bad people of the world who do not understand that SHE is the victim here. You want us to feel sorry for her. Guess what, WE DO. She lost her children because of her own actions. She left her children alone while she slept. Children that some how could figure out how to open the car door and get into the car, but failed to understand how to open the car door to exit the car when it became uncomfortable. THAT is what we have a problem with, it it illogical, though slightly plausible, not probable. You want to drop yourself down into the gutter and start name calling, that’s fine. But it doesn’t help you make your point.
Mioshi, you need help. Seriously. Take this up with your whore friend. Dont blame others because she is a fuck up and she ended up on this site.
But again, thank you. I must re-confirm the notion that you have led me to believe that your friend is at least as disgusting, stupid, and gross as you. And that she murdered her children. Again, you do a shitty job defending people.
Now go and finish frying up your daily ration of 50 pounds of bacon cooked in butter, fatty.
if u were such a good close friend how come u didnt watch the kids? shut up, good lord. stop defending this POS and crawl back to your cave
Wow, what is wrong with all of you hateful, judgemental people?? You read a “story” that someone writes up with bits and pieces of information, true or false, twist it around, and you believe every word of it. Who are you to judge, especially without knowing the actual facts. None of you know exactly what happened that day. And the reporters/media will say anything to get a story. I pray none of you or anyone for that matter ever have to know what it feels like to lose a child. This was a very tragic accident, like most accidents, can be prevented, but sadly, this time it wasn’t. She is in her own personal hell and doesn’t need all of you ripping her apart. Let her grieve and allow her precious children to rest in peace. I know, all she wants, is to be with her children.
Yet another enabler…
Watch out Amy, they’re everywhere!
Oh, I am sorry. Next time I will simply tell someone to “lick my ass” or call them a “cuntbag”. That would be far more classy and effective. You are right.
Fucktard.
The things about the “stories” that are written here is they are verified in the media; and usually police reports and court records.
Its certainly not like the writers of these “stories” have dreams at night which put them in their heads–how creepy would that be? So basically my point is, they aren’t just far fetched fairy tales.
The only important fact in this story is children are dead because they weren’t supervised. Period. Point blank. And “JENA” if STACEY did nothing wrong, then why doesn’t she come in and defend herself and stop letting the DIMWITS do it for her.
Like I said before, I don’t care about her own personal hell, in essence it was caused by her own actions/inactions.
She seems to have everyone in her inner circle coming in here to defend her; at least the ones who are left—the ones who apparently rode the short bus.
I wonder; and I could be reaching deep, but I do wonder if she is possibly sitting next to the “friend” typing directing them as to what to say? These two defenders of the universe–well Stacey’s universe at least–have said basically the same exact thing …”blah blah blah she is in her own personal hell….blah blah blah”–well GOOD FOR FUCKING HER!! At least her hell didn’t consist of baking in a car and suffocating to death; who gives a shit about her hell. I understand, she lost her children–and for that I feel awful, but I don’t care to listen about how she is in hell when it was preventable in the first place.
And Blondie–thanks for the superhero visual, I will never be able to read these “superheroes” comments without it. I am a picture thinker, so I thank you, you made it so vivid in my mind :D
You are very welcome Min_Duhh. :)
LOL @ “short bus”. Why dont these people get someone with half a brain to defend them, for once?
It’s not a deep reach at all to think that there’s some sort of collusion between supporters of a person Min_Duhh. We all saw that when I checked into the people who were supposed to be friends of Jack Berry in the Jeremiah Raymond Berry and Jack Berry story. Remember that one? – turned out Angie Berry, the wife, was posting as at least two of those “friends of Jack” from her computer.
So when I read your post, I decided to check these two folks out. At first I was disappointed – Mioshi97 is in Orlando, FLA (which I’m happy to report is still there despite Pat Robertson’s prophesy that God was going to destroy the city several years ago because Disneyland insisted on having a “Gay Day” – oh those wacky Christian fundamentalists). The interesting thing I found out is JENA0617 is located in Denver CO, and her email address begins is staceym**@*****.com. Not a lot to go on, but if you add it to the other points you brought up about the wording of the posts and you’ve got some fair circumstantial evidence that someone who looks and acts very much like Stacey Mendieta posted the JENA0617 comment (if you catch my drift).
All that aside, is it just me or is Stacey beginning to look less like a sympathetic victim and more like an immature spoiled brat. I mean, think about it. First she marries an illegal alien who, for obvious reasons, has a hard time supporting a family. So she divorces him and meets this Kuwaiti guy (read rich) online. She decides to drop her entire life here and drag her herself and her kids halfway around the world to marry a man who religion and culture are completely foreign to her. Does this sound like someone who thinks things out? Now THAT’S the kind of person who lays down to take a nap while her toddlers run around unsupervised.
I’ll admit at first I thought the cops charged her more out of pressure from the public outrage than evidence that she was truly negligent. But I have to thank Mioshi97 ad much as Blondie, Poptart and Min_Duhh for the fact that I was able to come to a real decision about her guilt. You are who your friends are, because you attract people who are just like you. In this case we have the flies to shit theory. Mioshi97 tried to be logical and sympathetic at the beginning, but confronted with three ladies who are much, much smarter than she is, she reverted to her true self: Crude and vulgar, dropping the C-bomb, and generally acting like she just got jumped into the local chapter of the Crips, Bloods or MS13.
I keep telling these so-called supporters that if you’re going to come here and challenge our stories, you better come with more than “I knew her and….” or “You people don’t know what you’re talking about”. You’ll soon discover we have a lot of regulars who are very smart people. You always make things worse for the people you propose to care about, because, in the famous words of Forrest Gump, “Stupid is As Stupid Does”.
Just goes to show – better be careful who you call a c**t. There are those women out there, myself included, that are not offended by it. So Mioshi lives in the fantasyland of Orlando. Shocking. But to hear her tell it, Stacey is Cinderella complete with the talking mice, singing birdies and Mioshi is her fairy Godmother. Too bad the clock has struck midnight and Stacey’s glass carriage has turned back into a pumpkin.
I couldn’t help but laugh Max, when you put that partial email address out there for Jena.
I think that woman is the epitome of DUMB. She came in here under an alias; yet used her own email address. Some people’s children- I tell ya.
Thank you Max, for validating my gut instinct that something was off on those “ladies”. That’s a nice feeling.
I don’t care about “regulars” who post here every minute of every day, this site is sick for portraying people the way that they do. You people are plain and simple: sad. One day, probably soon, some asshole will make another “judgement” comment on somebody that they don’t know, and never will know but later find out that person has a family member who is a politician and this whole thing will be suspended(again) and eventually shut down.
I’m not sure if using vulgarity makes someone less of a person, the last time I checked, it was a form of expression. Nonetheless, stooping down to the idiotic levels of the various people above, while trying to prove a point did absolutely nothing.
No we are not the same person, my thoughts are my own thoughts, (sorry you are so disappointed). I am in Orlando(It’s Disneyworld not Disneyland) and yes she is in Denver(you do the math), ever heard of the word discreet? she doesn’t owe you any explanation as to why she posted under her e-mail which is obviously traced. I am my own person, a very decent intelligent one at that. I served this country with an honorable discharge, I work in a hospital, I help people for a living, with that said, it’s fair for me to think Stacey made a genuine mistake yet Frank Sinatra and “The Brat Pack Regulars” here, want the most negative and nasty things to come of her.If she decides to start a new life, isn’t that her choice? This country evolved based on people trying to start a new life, so your rationale on that matter is ridiculous. Fyi: I don’t live in any dreamworld or land, based on the fact that I live in Orlando, it’s just a place that’s warm and sunny.
Please elaborate(no really, don’t) on why she’s a spoiled brat? her husband left her and her babies are gone. Like I asked before: what else can possibly be done? everything has been taken away from her. As far as her fiancee in Kuwait, did you stop to think that maybe he’s stationed over there? or did you just jump to conclusions and say: Oh he’s a random internet guy. Trying to continually explain myself and defend her against you hyenas(hey, the Disney lion king & scar=max the cat!) is a complete waste of time.
Rest in peace Jasmine and Nathan.
Mioshi97, when did you get here?
You just crawl up out of the woodwork, don’t you? Slinky ass bitch. Hey, if those dead babies meant/mean ANYTHING to you, why can’t you undertand that they were left to die because of negligence-at the least. Worst off, they literally roasted. Good god. Even you could have watched kids better. THINK, Mioshi. What the fuck? Yeah, LOYALTY. Right.
If all else fails, enjoy that bucket o’fries with your homie, who has taken the time to post. Stacey, let me be the first to apologize if PYSIH took away from your “Studs in Slavanka” time. Carry on cooz, carry on. And if it is really Stacey reading….
You are a goofy, stupid, lazy negligent cooz who got away with murder. At the very least- manslaughter. Otherwise:
Try some phisoderm for that oily ass face. Seriously. It looks like you regularly fry up bacon for your fat-assed friend, Mioshi the Moose, on that slick that you call your face. Gag.
Nasty.
Mioshi97,
Repeat this:
I am sofa.
I am sofa king.
I am sofa king wheat.
I am sofa king wheat tart.
I am sofa king wheat tart did.
Now fuck off and fulfill your anal fixation with your pal Stacey. The night is young. Enjoy. Bitch.
Oooh, you’re such a liar Mushy – I’d love to do a Elyse Mimano type investigation on your information, just to embarrass you further, but I’m just way to backed up with work on the site, and you’re so good at doing it to yourself anyways.
Investigate away, I have nothing to hide.
Poptart1:Did we forget to take our bi-polar meds today? Let me get you a glass of water, oh here, don’t forget the zoloft,it’s a constant reminder that all the marbles aren’t there and the only fat tub o’lard with the name after a food item is you.
Continue on with your bag o’ fries and ho ho’s. Fat ass.
You are such a joke. No one believes you-or your gross oily friend.
How does that feel? Seriously. How DOES that feel??
Mioshi.
This is a haiku-just for you:
Mioshi is just
An enabling slut who
Is dumber than nails.
There, there now hush child. Give me your hand and I will escort you to the 6th floor of my hospital where we admit the patients who are”crazy” I promise not to make fun of you, it’s against hospital policy. Now we can supervise your meds since you’ve been skipping out again.
Listen nutjob. Your friend should be the one on meds. How else could you live with yourself after being responsible for the deaths of your own children?
And you? You are probably just as doped up to believe that shit your friend spouts.
Why dont you get to the root of the problem. You have an issue because others dont believe you. You have no credibility. You are vulgar and a liar. You WISH others would be doped up, then maybe you would have someone who believes you. Goofy Fucktard that you are.
poptart1: it’s scary that there are twisted people out there like you. You are the reason why our country does not succeed, you are the reason why we have hung juries because your puny, pathetic little mind can’t fathom facts or reality. Just know that in a jury selection process, they would choose me (someone of sound mind) over you, three times over. With that being said, a jury would make more sense as to who would decide, if their were any decisions to be made on what should happen in this case vs. this soon to be shut down website.
Dude!
Do you have any way of defending your opinions that don’t involve insults?!
I mean, after the hours you spent pathetically trying to intellectually respond to my opinions, the best you can come up with here is slut?
Stalk much? I must have had quite an effect on you, because, it is evident that you are bitter. When you have the need to seek out people’s other posts and make comments which have nothing to do with anything. That is just plain weird. You have issues.
Admit it, James, you missed me. That is why you felt the need to seek me out.
And we NEVER had an intellectual conversation, bro. You said it yourself. Go to the post and read your own words. You sure fabricate to make yourself feel better, huh? Let me refresh your memory. The closest thing you had to an intellectual conversation was the one you attempted to have with Jason, but it was clear from the get go that you are no where near in the same intellectual ballpark as he is. How sad for you.
And if I recall correctly, your goofy ass started with the insults, just like this dumb bitch, ass licking and what not. So before you get all up in the kool aid, why dont you make sure you know what flavor it is. You would look like less of an asshole for it. Maybe not.
Hm … looking like less of an asshole …
This is actually of great concern to me, as I value your opinion highly. I will look at these actions of mine so to improve the esteem within which you hold me.
This is very seriously to me.
But if I may restate my unanswered question …
Do you have any way of defending your opinions that doesn’t involve insults? And come on, “I am sofa king wee tart did.” Are you in third grade?
Oh I am sorry, James. Maybe I should have just wished tragedy on someone, because, you know, that is so realistic and mature.
I hope you get ball cancer you cocksucker.
That would be pretty damn impossible, goofball.
HAH! That makes so much sense now!
I so wish you get ovarian cancer. It would be a damn shame if crap like you could multiply into two or more piles of crap.
Children are a beautiful gift from God, except when they come out of horses asses like yourself.
You sound more and more stupid everytime you post. Get over yourself. I would wish something terrible on you, but hey, you already got the short end of the stick in terms of ethics and intelligence. You were screwed from day one.
Ok children, THAT IS ENOUGH! James, you should be ashamed of yourself. Even in jest, wishing someone to get ovarian or testicular cancer? Mioshi, as a woman who has stated that you work in a hospital, you would concur? Have neither of you have no shame?
Stacey, as Jena, has admitted that she made a mistake in judgement. She has accepted responsibility for her actions. That is ALL that anyone can do. Calling each other names? Wishing cancer on one another? I myself don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone thinks of me and I am the first person to say that. But I would NEVER wish tragedy upon anyone, in any form. All of you should apologize to one another and agree to disagree and move on.
Thank you Blondie for being a voice of reason :) You know, I have to admit that a good portion of my judgement exercised on this particular post was driven by Mioshi and the perpetual insults which were flying back and forth. I have said it before, she just plain made it worse for her friend. Even if she was trying to make it better. She isnt good at defending people, but if I was in her shoes, I probably would do the same-in this particular instance. I can admit to that.
As Stacey continues to post, I do feel for her. And I do feel bad for the smack I have spouted-about her, that is. That being said, I can admit when I am wrong. And in this case, clearly I am. And I am sorry to Stacey. I mean that. Genuinely. I undertand she is in her own hell. And, it is beyond sad that she has to be there for the reasons which she is.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Naw, man, y’ll are too much.
I’m not posting anymore. Frankly, you’re the most stubborn bunch of bastards I’ve ever had the misfortune to encounter.
I was wrong, plain and simple. I hope that you find some peace and continue to take comfort in the fact that you will be reunited with your children, again. In heaven.
Thanks for the lesson in humility, Stacey. I was a tad overdue. Good luck.
Amen Brotha! I dually agree.
James: this dude is a wack job, he’s a hindrance on society, he tries to level the playing ground by stating I’m a “fucktard”, and accusing me of being fat. Get real dude, this is the internet, you need a reality check & mental check while you’re at it. You only wish he would stalk you, but in reality nobody cares enough to do so, ever.
Goofy, you played the “fat” name calling game first. Remember that one.
And your “ass licking” is normal???
Please.
Hey man, you can see how insecure he is in his opinions, he can’t even express them without insulting at least one person at least once. You can’t blame someone with no sense for having, well, no sense.
I, personally, am endlessly grateful for this bitter wads of … whatever the hell they are. I had never before taken the time to fully develop my thoughts on this topic until the stupidity of another’s made it abundantly clear I needed to.
(Now watch how quickly they (most likely this toaster pastry or Jason cat) will try to use my words against me because they have no logical rebuttal to what either of us are saying.
poptart1: Reality Check. Seriously. Approaching me with: “You’re a Fucktard” is a quick way to get a response like”Lick My Ass” if you took it as literally, then you’re an obvious idiot. Just do me a favor and shut the fuck up, you’re talking in circles and apparently, you’ve made plenty of other stupid/off-handed/pathetic comments elsewhere so that people are seeking you out to prove a point.
A match made in heaven. Two fucktards coming together as one union of stupidity. Beautiful. Tragically beautiful.
no, the real tragedy is that people like you are walking the streets. Get a grip bro, admit that you have nothing better to do than try to chime in and come off as a complete waste of space.
Love is in the air.
Just so everyone knows… I haven’t asked anyone to defend me on here or anywhere else. And for those that have, I appreciate it, and am grateful to those that are standing by me and supporting me. As far as an alias Min_Duhh, it’s not, JENA are my children’s initials and their birthdates. Also, unless you personally have the media write up a story about you, you have no idea if its true or not. Unfortunately, I get to experience it first hand. They twist EVERYTHING around and don’t report everything. They’ll only report what the DA’s Spokeperson tells them to report. I only know this, because my family, my pastor, and my friends witnessed this in my first inital preliminary hearing. I always said, something like this would never happen to my family. My children are my world, my life, and will continue to be. Tmrw will be 8 months since my babies went to Heaven, but to me, it still feels like it was yesterday. There is nothing that any of you can say, that I don’t feel 10x worse, every second of every day. I don’t expect you to understannd what myself and my family are having to go through, and I pray that none of you do. But accidents can happen to anyone, even if you don’t think they’ll happen to you. Cherish every moment you get, because you don’t know when it’ll be your last.
I only have one question–if you are in such a hell; why do you come here and read this?
Of course things are going to be said that aren’t favorable to you.
I understand facing the world, but why put yourself unnecessarily to this. Everyone here has an opinion- good, bad, or ugly, but they’re certainly entitled to it.
I haven’t lost a child but I can only assume that I wouldn’t be a glutton for a punishment of this type. Reliving it through random strangers eyes who you say “twist the truth” and believe what is fed to them. Defending myself to people I have never met, nor probably never will. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself to us? Is there some truth to what has been said and you know that subconsciously?
As far the general public only knowing what is released via the DA’s spokesperson, well, that’s pretty much how we find out about any atrocity in the world–through the media and the DA’s spokespeople. If we weren’t to believe what they tell us; we wouldn’t have any idea what was going on around us. If we didn’t trust the media–how would we know what was going on in Iraq, or within the government? How would we be informed on local goings on? I’m sure you aren’t watching the news on some recently breaking news and downplaying what you hear as “twisted”, or is it only twisted when it comes to your story?
I know a little bit about journalism and I know the first thing they teach you in any course on the subject is objectivity/subjectivity and the differences between the two. A journalist is supposed to remain objective no matter their feelings on a subject–and I don’t know how unobjective you can be when you are given information from the DA’s office. I also know that if anything that was printed was indeed incorrect, there would be libel suits against the journalist and media source who printed it on your behalf. I did attempt to find any articles regarding any such lawsuits pending, and didn’t come across any–not even a mention of one. So, therefore, I am leaning towards believing what has been printed.
Whether or not what is printed or not is flawed, however minutely, the fact of the story came across clear–babies are dead. That cannot be stressed enough. No matter how awful you feel about how wrong people on some measly website comprehended the circumstances, you have to understand people automatically jump to defend defenseless babies; its human nature.
Thank God they have internet access in hell. I was little worried about how i would spend eternity and find it a great relief to know i can still visit my fav website in the after life…
No, I don’t believe anything I read or hear in the media anymore. I can’t. And the media/government only want the people to believe what they want us to believe. And as far as reading what all of you are writing… like i said before, nothing anyone says, can make me feel any worse than I already do about myself. And I don’t need to defend myself to any of you either. But I do feel that everyone should know the truth, and eventually all of you will, but I’m kinda limited to what I can say at the moment. All I can say is that I am not a monster, nor a trouble maker, not a drugie or an alcoholic, and I would never ALLOW anything bad to happen to my children. What happened was a horrible tragic accident. And I would give my life to bring them back, to turn back the clock.
I honestly don’t believe there was ever any intent by you to harm your children Stacey. I’m just a hard ass about personal responsibility because I was so bad at it for most of my life – I’m the idiot who will drive half-way across town to return a couple of bucks of extra change, because 10 or 15 years ago I’d rob you blind if I thought I could get away with it. So you see, I don’t think I’m better than you are – in some ways we’re very much the same.
What I’ve been trying to get through to your friend is 1. What do we learn from what happened? and 2. Why do there have to be consequences? From where I’m sitting, both questions are easily answered – so there won’t be a next time. Not for you, but for all the people who hear about your story and think twice before they let their little ones go unsupervised.
My youngest daughter almost choked to death on a large metal marble when she was 2 or 3. I had just put her and her sister to bed, and I just wanted to go to sleep myself, because I was overworked (12 hour shifts), over tired (my wife worked nights, so I had to do the Mr. Mom thing after work) and more than a little bit stoned. I was able to dislodge the marble using the Heimlich Maneuver, but it was close. Another couple of minutes and who knows? Those couple of minute are the difference between me and you. Again, I’m no better, just a couple of minutes luckier.
You tell me what you learned? that you looked into where I live and where Stacey lives. Why don’t you just say that instead? I already know the consequences of my actions, trust me, I am not perfect, I can freely admit I have messed up a few times, but I always admitted I was wrong and dealt with what I deserved. The whole point of me posting over and over was to say: hey there are genuine people who make mistakes, and yes it looks worse than what it really is, but instead of jumping down someone’s throat, why don’t you offer condolences or offer to help out in any way? It’s frustrating to see someone you know go through something like this and still be continually bashed about it to no end. Life is short people, don’t waste your time judging others here.
Here’s what I’ve learned. Back in 1994, my now ex-wife finally had enough of me and my irresponsible behavior – including a lifelong drug habit. Well, I was going to save my marriage, so I went into treatment, and stayed there for 60 days, then lived in a half-way house for another 6 months. I went to AA and NA meetings 2 and 3 times a day. I stayed clean and sober for nearly 2 years. And do you know what happened? I still got divorced, I was barred from seeing my kids, and my ex did everything she could to (in my eyes) make my life miserable.
I was floored – didn’t she see I was sober. I was busting my ass, doing the right thing, and I got nothing for it. There were people who had been sober for a long time who warned me this would all happen, but I was smarter than they were. They told me I still had a tab to pay for all the years of using drugs and the behaviors that come with it. I won’t get into details, but I have a very bad history.
Anyways, I did what I do best, I went and used for another 7 years, on & off – basically it took me the next 13 years to put together the six and half continuous years of sobriety I have today. It took me a long time and a lot of unnecessary pain to finally accept that all the shit I did was MY fault and my doing, not the drugs, not my parents, not my ex, and not the litany of excuses I used for treating people like shit.
And THATS why I am the way I am about people taking responsibility for their actions, why I have little patience for people who make excuses. If I had listened to those guys back in ‘94 and ‘95, how many people would I not have hurt during those next 7 years? How much less would I have on my conscience today? How much better off would my two girls be today for having me around with a clear mind. They’re 18 and 20 today, but for the last 4 years or so I’ve been their confidant and their friend, and finally they treat me like their dad again.
I just don’t want people to go through what I did – because what I had to do isn’t just the key to staying clean and sober – I’ve found it’s the key to living life on life’s terms. Like I was told a long time ago – first I had to believe that there is a God, so to speak, and I’m not him. Then I had to learn to accept that my life is the way it is today because that’s the way it’s supposed to be, good or bad, and all I can do is the next right thing that’s put in my path. Most of all, I had to believe that no matter how bad things get, I’ll be OK, because I’m never going to get more than I can handle in a day. God just doesn’t work like that.
So if all this makes me an asshole, so be it. I’m alot better off now than I was back in the day, and so are all the people I love. I’m sorry if I come across as harsh, but I’m still a work in progress. But I guarantee you that If I’m being hard on someone, it’s not to be mean or hurtful – it’s just my clumsy attempt at showing that I give a fuck.
Max, we are all a work in progress.
I respect your story, and I agree we are all work in progress. I guess I did a poor job in defending her, but my intentions were true & honest. I’m tired of being called “mioshi” my name is Malinda and mioshi was my girlfriend and I’s pug who passed 2 years a-go. I have an ugly mug shot out there too, when I was 21 I got a dui and it’s def. nothing to brag about. Nobody was harmed but I was a fool for thinking I could drive after 15 shots, and I paid the consequences. I think we all have demons that get the best of us sometimes. It’s about overcoming , moving on and doing something positive. Trust me when I say that I don’t get my kicks trying to 1 up somebody on a blog site, that’s not how I operate, but I felt that something needed to be said, it just came across all wrong. I don’t have kids, but when I do, I will do my best to be 100% aware at every moment & have this site as my warning & the memory of her babies to keep me in check. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone, I’m def. the giving type, not the taker. I’m signing off of this website, but if you are on myspace, feel free to send a friend request, I’m sure you will know how to find me Max ;)
I said it before and I will say it again, I personally never thought you murdered your children, regardless of what Mioshi thought. The hell that you live through every day is unimaginable. No parent is perfect, God knows I’m not. No one person or state can punish you more than you are punishing yourself. But the fact remains that, for whatever reason, you left your children unsupervised, and unfortunately, you must accept responsibility for that. I respectfully disagree with some of the other commenters in that I do not believe that you should serve any jail time. You have my sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved children. As one mother to another, I am very sorry for your loss.
I went down with my 2 yr old son, while my 5yr old watched tv. She refused to take a nap. I was layin down with my son in our room, because he was starting to get sick and didnt sleep well that night. I didnt intend to fall asleep so quickly, nor do I not understand why I didnt hear Jasmine come get Nathan outta bed. I’ll never understand why I didnt hear them, I always heard everything they did, awake or asleep. Still, not an excuse, I know, and I have to live with that every day of my life now. I appreciate your condolences Blondie and I pray you never understand my pain.
My condolences to anyone who has lost children… however as parents we are RESPONSIBLE for our children while they are under our care. “I fell asleep and didn’t hear” is tragic yes… but: um my daughter wouldn’t dare go outside without mom’s permission, and when I’m supposed to be watching her I sleep lightly, and have ever since she was born. I keep myself aware because I know kids will be kids and that ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. That being said: I’m not sure that it is a very good excuse. Yes, you will have to suffer with the fact that your children are dead… but they are DEAD.
Don’t have kids if you aren’t prepared to sacrifice for them, be it with lack of sleep, pain in the butt personal life interactions, lack of money and/or stretch marks.
PS, I caught my daughter getting into my car when it was hot and I was doing something for like two minutes (outside with her) and she closed the car door with the windows up.. I screamed at her for that for a good five minutes and she knows that it is BAD BAD BAD to sit in a hot car…..and she knows that even though I was right there with her she scared the bejeezus out of me.
Someone didn’t get the memo, she’s my friend, of course I’m going to tell her about this fucked up site. Who wouldn’t? This site is not reliable for information, so don’t compare it to the DA or the real media. It’s human nature to say disgusting hateful things? I beg to differ, this site is set up so that you look through a one sided mirror and then throw rocks at someone who has already gone through enough.
I never said it was an excuse. My children have NEVER done anything like this before. Never snuck out of the house, never gotten into my car without me or an adult, even while we were outside. But they didn’t get the chance to learn it was bad. And I DO NOT blame my children for what happened either. They were just being kids. Nor do I blame the 3 people that saw them outside, because MY kids weren’t their responsibility. But I sure wish they would have said something, called the police, i dont care. My Kids were very smart, they even knew how to open the car doors from the inside, which I will never understand why they didnt get out of the car when it got to hot for them. But what i was told by the coroner, was that the heat got to them, they got sleepy and fell asleep. And they didnt suffer. There was no evidence of either of them suffering. They are with God now, and I wish I was with them or could take their place.
What I’m trying to say boils down to this: tragedy could have been averted by greater parental supervision.
I’m not trying to browbeat, because if it is truly the case where you messed up, then you MESSED UP and you already know that. But it has to be accepted as well that you could have prevented this by not falling asleep and or having taught your kids that certain dangers exist.
I started with my daughter not being allowed in the kitchen when the stove was on, stove is HOT HOT etc, and I try my best to explain the little daily things that can get her in trouble. I am NOT by any means a perfect parent, I make no claims to be, so don’t get me wrong. However I think it’s really important to realize that kids won’t ALWAYS listen and we need to be aware of that and on the lookout for possible dangers. You could have locked your car, for example, and I for one am fan of really high up chains locks (not sure what those are called) on the interior of my front door.
In any case, regardless of all that, good luck with everything. It cannot be easy to continue your life in this type of incident.
BTW it wasn’t your neighbor’s responsibility but I hope they feel a little bit of guilt for seeing but not stopping. I’d rather be a “nosy busybody” any day than see someone get killed and NOT HAVE SAID ANYTHING.
I know all of this. And i stated previously that I did not put any blame on those other people. And they do feel horrible. But nothing changes the fact that my babies are gone, and I have to live with my mistakes and the “what if’s”, but I am not a criminal and I believe I don’t deserve to be sent to jail where criminals go, nor do i believe I should be sent to hell. And I know that I won’t. When my time comes, God will bring me home to be with my babies again for eternity. And that’s the only reason I am still on this earth and not under it.
Alanna: I think she knows this tradegy could have been averted. She will live with that knowledge and the accompanying guilt for the rest of her days. I think that is punishment enough for any loving mother.
JENNA: As a mother who adores ( adores isnt a strong enough word) her children, and couldnt imagine a day on this earth without them, i apologise from the bottom of my heart for my comments. If anything, your comments have taught me to be even more vigilant than i already am when it comes to my kids and to not pass judgement so quickly.
I hope that somehow you find peace.
Thank you Amy. And I’ll probably never find peace until I’m with them again.
I am working on an “educational foundation” to help educate kids and parents so that something like this doesn’t happen to another family. It’s called: “J.E.N.A. ~ Awareness for Life” in honor of Jasmine & Nathan. Everything I do is for them.
No doubt Stace, I back you 100% Gee,Trisha,and Niecey will contribute too, Radford love! AF people stay together, ALWAYS.
I hope everyone realizes there is such a bias in this and if it was a MAN who did the same he’d be up shit creek without a paddle, in the eye of public opinion and more than likely with the law?
Stacey says “Sorry I regret it” and she is automatically believed, but when a man says it, they are not; this has been proven by the way; men who kill their spouses get harsh punishment… women not so much. We get manslaughter etc. Lady Justice is not so blind in America, so to speak.
I think my whole point boils down to the fact that it doesn’t MATTER if she MEANT to leave them to their own devices, and it doesn’t MATTER if she is sorry. Those kids are no longer living, and she could have loved them better by paying attention. I suppose though for the purposes of this forum at least, that makes her someone we WON’T see in Hell because this didn’t happen intentionally. (?)
I’m not saying she deserves to go to hell. I for one, don’t believe in hell (except for that Christine lady ack that just makes me sick), nor do I believe in heaven. I think that the best thing that can come of this is the foundation she claims to be starting and hopefully it does some good.
Either way Stacey, despite my comments or any others you do yourself and your children a disservice in some ways. Your children are dead; you are not. Try to find peace, as others have suggested, and perhaps some shade of happiness. Do you really think your children would have wanted you to be unhappy for the rest of your life?
Stacey,
being a parent of a Nathan myself…he just turned three btw…
I can understand how kids are..
Actually I have an 8 year old, a 3 year old, and a 19 month old.
Thing is…quit blaming yourself.
If this was a tragic accident, then leave it at that.
Think of it this way…you were such a good mommy, that God decided to bring those two angels back to Heaven, to wait for you.
I’m stumped on the the five year old not opening the door to the car myself. My oldest…being the female Einstein that she is…would get out of the car if she got too hot. I remember she did that once, while on a long distance trip, and we were at a rest stop. Turn your back for one second, and all sorts of havoc is wrought.
We found her..by the candy machine…asking people for spare change, because she oh so desperately wanted a candy bar…
My point is, we can’t watch our kids every millisecond of the day, but we can damn sure try. It’s unfortunate that you had to suffer, losing your children like that…but at least they didn’t suffer, and they weren’t in any pain.
That would do my heart some good to know, because I would fret over that fact, did my child suffer?
This kind of thing happens more often than everyone thinks…
Like in Kansas, there was a little boy, who suffocated while hiding in a microwave, playing hide and seek. Parents were distraught…but…it was nobody’s fault. Kid was ten years old.
But…once again..My condolences…
oh, and my oldest’s name is Jena. She’s named after my ancestor’s hometown in Germany.
There are much, much easier ways of killing children than locking them in your car on a hot day. Especially given the anecdotes you people have provided above: how do you stop the children from laying on the car horn or opening the doors?
The simplest explanation seems to be that the children went in the car by themselves and fell asleep. If someone really wanted to kill them, he/she would not have picked a way in which they could have easily escaped or attracted lots of attention.
So I wish you people would stop slandering this person & turn to a more deserving criminal.
oops, ignore, thought this was more recent.
I don’t care if it was an accident or not. she failed her children, plain and simple. I get up at least 4 times a night and check on every one of my 3 children EACH time and sometimes more. There is no excuse for this. You are at fault. you have to live with that. i hope you never forgive yourself.
It depend on ur behaviour
She looks like a whore, i don’t buy a single word of this story, something is definitely fishy here. She was obviously on a manhunt, so she removed the hurdles. What a fucking cunt. I pray your arab dude dumps you like trash.
You are full of shit. All of you who dare to judge.
“Good money is on the 5-year-old being able to open the door.” Good money doesn’t mean every five-year-old everywhere in every instance will open that door. Hello!–this one didn’t.
Not to mention (but I will) that you have not been truthful, have not updated your comments to tell the whole story. She WAS prosecuted and the judge, weeping, sentenced her to community service. Why did he weep? He knew she was telling the truth and that she had already suffered (and will continue to) more than most of us can imagine.
Speaking of imagining. . .
“Imagine, if you will, that you were a youngish, still-attractive woman who was going to go meet the man of your dreams in a foreign country after going through a divorce. Wouldn’t you feel more attractive if you didn’t have some other man’s children along with you?”
Maybe you should stop imagining. All it does is show how full of crap you are, shows YOU are capable of terrible things. It doesn’t prove a thing about this woman.
What does her meeting a man online who lives in Kuwait have to do with it? It proves something terrible about her? Come on.
You people need to get a life. Before you talk about other people going to hell, pull the damn log out of your own eye.
You know what Chris, you can kiss my white ass. We haven’t been truthful? Well I’m here to tell you we are ALWAYS as honest and truthful as we can possibly be about the stories we write. You, on the other hand, are very skillful at telling half-truths.
For one, Stacey was actually sentenced to 2 years in prison, but the sentence was deferred if she completed 300 hours of public service or 50 public presentations on the dangers of leaving kids in hot cars. If she completes all of the obligations the deferred judgment would be closed and she would not be permanently convicted of the felony crime. She received this sentence because her lawyers worked out a plea deal, where she plead no contest to felony child abuse.
But let’s look at a few of the facts – Normally, at the time they died, the children would have been in daycare, but Stacey pulled them out to save money so she could move to Kuwait and marry her Internet boyfriend. She fell asleep for SIX hours before she got up to look for them. We’ve already gone over other unwise things this “mom” did that led up to this tragedy. At best, Stacey was incredibly foolish, but I tend to lean towards her being self-centered to the extreme and her kids being victims of a series of her bad decisions.
As far as missing the update goes, well excuse the fuck out of me for running a one man operation at the time and missing this one. Instead of being a shmuck about it, you could have left a comment, or sent an email letting me know about the final disposition of Stacey’s case and you would have seen you update on the front page ASAP. Ask anyone here if I hold back updates just because we don’t get the result we were looking. You might just learn to hold your tongue and do a little research before you accuse people of dishonesty.
You also seem to resent some of the comments left here. That’s fine, disagree if you want – that’s what this board is about. But if you try to stay civil you’ll find we’re not a bad bunch and will give you a decent debate without a bunch of name calling.
I gotta go – I’ve got an update I need to work on.
Chris, I have another suggestion for you. If you’re so intent on making sure things are up-to-date on this site, why don’t you donate some money to it? I mean, surely a good Samaritan interested in complete and accessible truth like yourself can see his way clear to clicking the link at the top of the page and hooking PYSIH up by way of PayPal, hmmm?
Or you could buy a mug! Or a shirt! The link for that is just under the one that goes to PayPal at the top of every page!! The Flippercat mug is quite the sexy Valentines Day gift. I’m just sayin’…
Did the judge state that he KNEW she was telling the truth? Maybe the judge cried for the lives of the children. I know that kids can learn to open doors, and get into things/places they shouldn’t. I also know that it doesn’t up and happen one day. I am sure the children had opened her door before, or got out before (if it happened the way she stated) and she didn’t do anything to stop it from happening again. I have an extra bolt on the top of my doors, that my kids CANNOT unlock. My daughter got up from her nap while I was in the shower, and got to the porch, I heard the door close and ran out there to get her. I installed the new locks, hasn’t happened since. I don’t know about you, but I get up multiple times a night, whether it’s to use the restroom or get a drink, I check on my kids EVERY time.
***it doesn’t normally just happen one day (for a 5 year old) to just get up and get their sibling to go in the freezing cold to sit in the car and die.
You know what? You’re alright April. You’ve got a good head and an really big heart – just the kind of people we need around this place. You kind of remind me of myself in a way, except I have a really big head and a defective heart….LOL.
And Chris M., pull your damn head out of your ass. (You’re not Christina, by any chance? If so congrats, you managed to write that entire post without all the CAPITALS.) I dare to judge, and I will dare to judge, and if you don’t like it fuck you. Something is very, very wrong here: that’s my judgment. I don’t say that Stacey murdered her children. I would have to know more before making up my mind on that. But it boggles the imagination that she could be so careless, and that so many things could go so wrong, all at once. And that so many excuses are floating around in the air. I have read her posts and still believe this.
At the very least, her judgment is abysmal. Marriage to an illegal alien, followed by 2 kids in 4 years? Falling for a guy in Kuwait? Hello? Preparing to disrupt her life and her kids’ lives, just to travel across the globe and marry a guy she has only interacted with (I assume) on the Internet? A Muslim, I assume? Who are not known for their enlightened attitudes toward women?
Bearing all these things in mind, I read her posts and thought, “Something is bad here. Insane negligence? Murder? Either seems possible.”
Stacey, I’m sorry you lost your kids but you need your head examined.
Chris M., Christina, any and all supporters/friends/family members: dont’ come back at me now with a “gotcha” along the lines of “I suppose YOU’VE never made mistakes.” I have, we all have, so that’s no way to put me in my place. But for someone to make this quantity of mistakes, and such serious ones, again and again, mistakes that hurt her and the lives of two innocents she brought into the world . . . it’s too much to expect me to assume that this lady is nothing but an innocent victim!
And you are full of shit. No?
Addressed to Chris M.
Everyone-
This is Stacey, mother of Jasmine & Nathan. It has been nearly a year and a half since that horrible day, and it still feels so fresh and unreal. I understand that many of you still judge me, it’s ok, because I still hate myself. To make everything clear on my sentencing… I was offered a 2 year deferred judgement. NO jail time, fines, anything like that. I have to either complete 300 hours of community service OR 50 presentations on the dangers of children in and around cars. (not leaving children in cars – for the person that said that). I don’t have to report to any probation officer or anything. If I complete the requirements within the 1st year, the 2nd year will be dismissed along with the case. And to make other things clear, “the guy in kuwait,” it wasn’t just an internet relationship. I’ve been over there a few times, and he loves Jasmine & Nathan as they were his own.
As I had mentioned the last time I posted on this site,about starting up and educational foundations, well I have. I created THE J.E.N.A PROJECT. I have made 7 presentations so far, with 2 more scheduled this month. I plan to go full force in March, being that’s when these types of tragedies start to happen. Even if you don’t believe me with what happened, please help spread the word on this cause. Visit: http://WWW.THEJENAPROJECT.ORG
~Stacey