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		<title>By: Derek Prudence</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-104905</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Prudence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fred @DZ:

(Amy, please excuse me, you are correct, but that&#039;s not the complete picture.)  

In Australia (and AFAIK, the UK):

1.  You cannot have a gun FOR the purpose of defending yourself, only the police and security guards have that right.  We are not third world countries, this is not the wild west, this is the 21st century.  If someone attacks you, you are permitted to use &quot;reasonable force&quot; to defend yourself, which, as established in many court cases, means *somewhat* more force than the attacker.  But not lethal force, unless the attacker was actually trying to kill you.

2.  That means that if you have a gun *because* you think you are going to be robbed, since you had the intention, it is murder.  Several people who have killed small black teenagers have rightly been done for murder, usually downgraded to manslaughter.  It is like carrying a weapon in the passenger compartment of your car, expecting to be attacked.

3.  But you can use the gun to prevent the attack or robbery, as in standing over an unarmed thief.

4.  So if you kill, you have to succeed in proving that you were about to be killed.

5.  The &quot;dead men tell no tales&quot; idea does not hold over here.  Shooting a thief or home invader, to kill, which is using more than the &quot;reasonable force&quot; will get you in trouble.

6.  If what you have is so freaking valuable, install an alarm on the safe, which is linked to the police station or a security company.  Do not put your life between a serious home invader and the valuables, with or without a gun, that is plain stupid, hopefully your life is worth more than the valuables.  They might have one as well, and they might shoot straighter.

7.  But if they hurt anyone, defend yourself with whatever you have.  There are many people who have killed the invader, gotten charged (well the police have to do their job), been able to prove that it was an accident, they only wanted to use reasonable force, did not intend it to be lethal, and gotten off.  Or the thief was armed, and hurt people, and you had a better firearm and better aim.

8.  A gun licence is denied to any person with a criminal record for (a) violence or (b) drugs, for ten years.

9.  Since the country is not flooded with cheap guns, they are often the target of the robbery.  Which is partly the reason for the strict gun storage laws.  If you have guns, you have to do much more (than in the third world countries) to establish a need; to store them; to use them.  The transport of guns is also legislated: must be unloaded; only between the safe, the place you hunt or the rifle range or the repair shop; none of this carrying loaded guns, convenient for some other purpose.

10.  Using a firearm in the commission of a crime, is an additional charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fred @DZ:</p>
<p>(Amy, please excuse me, you are correct, but that&#8217;s not the complete picture.)  </p>
<p>In Australia (and AFAIK, the UK):</p>
<p>1.  You cannot have a gun FOR the purpose of defending yourself, only the police and security guards have that right.  We are not third world countries, this is not the wild west, this is the 21st century.  If someone attacks you, you are permitted to use &#8220;reasonable force&#8221; to defend yourself, which, as established in many court cases, means *somewhat* more force than the attacker.  But not lethal force, unless the attacker was actually trying to kill you.</p>
<p>2.  That means that if you have a gun *because* you think you are going to be robbed, since you had the intention, it is murder.  Several people who have killed small black teenagers have rightly been done for murder, usually downgraded to manslaughter.  It is like carrying a weapon in the passenger compartment of your car, expecting to be attacked.</p>
<p>3.  But you can use the gun to prevent the attack or robbery, as in standing over an unarmed thief.</p>
<p>4.  So if you kill, you have to succeed in proving that you were about to be killed.</p>
<p>5.  The &#8220;dead men tell no tales&#8221; idea does not hold over here.  Shooting a thief or home invader, to kill, which is using more than the &#8220;reasonable force&#8221; will get you in trouble.</p>
<p>6.  If what you have is so freaking valuable, install an alarm on the safe, which is linked to the police station or a security company.  Do not put your life between a serious home invader and the valuables, with or without a gun, that is plain stupid, hopefully your life is worth more than the valuables.  They might have one as well, and they might shoot straighter.</p>
<p>7.  But if they hurt anyone, defend yourself with whatever you have.  There are many people who have killed the invader, gotten charged (well the police have to do their job), been able to prove that it was an accident, they only wanted to use reasonable force, did not intend it to be lethal, and gotten off.  Or the thief was armed, and hurt people, and you had a better firearm and better aim.</p>
<p>8.  A gun licence is denied to any person with a criminal record for (a) violence or (b) drugs, for ten years.</p>
<p>9.  Since the country is not flooded with cheap guns, they are often the target of the robbery.  Which is partly the reason for the strict gun storage laws.  If you have guns, you have to do much more (than in the third world countries) to establish a need; to store them; to use them.  The transport of guns is also legislated: must be unloaded; only between the safe, the place you hunt or the rifle range or the repair shop; none of this carrying loaded guns, convenient for some other purpose.</p>
<p>10.  Using a firearm in the commission of a crime, is an additional charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-101902</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im a close friend of the family and what happened to Emma has ripped all of our lives apart.
The first couple of years i think everyone was living in a daze a complete nightmare.
There&#039;s not a day that goes by that we don&#039;t think about the suffering Emma had to endure and our anger towards the animal that did this to her has never wavered.
14yrs-life does&#039;nt make a difference, we just wish he was no more, only then can we all move then.
The girls are coping extremely well, with the guidance and love of family and friends i can assure everyone they will always be looked after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a close friend of the family and what happened to Emma has ripped all of our lives apart.<br />
The first couple of years i think everyone was living in a daze a complete nightmare.<br />
There&#8217;s not a day that goes by that we don&#8217;t think about the suffering Emma had to endure and our anger towards the animal that did this to her has never wavered.<br />
14yrs-life does&#8217;nt make a difference, we just wish he was no more, only then can we all move then.<br />
The girls are coping extremely well, with the guidance and love of family and friends i can assure everyone they will always be looked after.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-99241</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fanclub,Totally agree with you about Stacie Kranzley @WCU in Pa.
She does lie.Who do you know that she cheated with ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanclub,Totally agree with you about Stacie Kranzley @WCU in Pa.<br />
She does lie.Who do you know that she cheated with ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tarysue</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-69388</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarysue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14 yrs?! Wow... That&#039;s an insult to that woman and her family. It&#039;s not like hacking your wife to pieces I&#039;m front of your daughter itls THAT serious... He needs a fucking needle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14 yrs?! Wow&#8230; That&#8217;s an insult to that woman and her family. It&#8217;s not like hacking your wife to pieces I&#8217;m front of your daughter itls THAT serious&#8230; He needs a fucking needle.</p>
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		<title>By: Max The Cat</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-66258</link>
		<dc:creator>Max The Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Beck. How incredibly fucking random. At first I thought it was that Fanclub weirdo again, but the IP is different. And of all the people he could have called a bitch, he picks Amy, who hasn&#039;t even posted a comment here in more than six months.

What&#039;s up this month, is it some vernal alignment of Orion&#039;s three testicles with the spontaneous discharge of Gauya&#039;s seculous vaginlinous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Beck. How incredibly fucking random. At first I thought it was that Fanclub weirdo again, but the IP is different. And of all the people he could have called a bitch, he picks Amy, who hasn&#8217;t even posted a comment here in more than six months.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s up this month, is it some vernal alignment of Orion&#8217;s three testicles with the spontaneous discharge of Gauya&#8217;s seculous vaginlinous?</p>
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		<title>By: vcbecky</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-66257</link>
		<dc:creator>vcbecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Noname&quot;, huh?  

Hm.

I think I shall call you &quot;Ritalin Monkey&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Noname&#8221;, huh?  </p>
<p>Hm.</p>
<p>I think I shall call you &#8220;Ritalin Monkey&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Noname</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-66255</link>
		<dc:creator>Noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are not just a bich, you are a fucking whore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are not just a bich, you are a fucking whore!</p>
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		<title>By: AgJu</title>
		<link>http://pysih.com/2008/10/20/wayne-forrester/#comment-57576</link>
		<dc:creator>AgJu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh joy. Another asshole who thinks the best way to get his woman back is by cutting her up into pieces. Hope he likes getting ass-raped in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh joy. Another asshole who thinks the best way to get his woman back is by cutting her up into pieces. Hope he likes getting ass-raped in prison.</p>
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