Cody Posey
At fourteen years old, many of us were just getting our first taste of high school. We began to see the opposite sex as having genitals rather than cooties and finding locker room situations a little more than awkward. It is at this point in our life that parental guidance is needed yet rebelled against most. Kids sneak out, kids act out, kids make out, and some kids even take out guns to shoot their families.
Unfortunately for Paul Posey, the latter was the case for his son, Cody.
On June 5, 2004, after his father slapped him, Cody Posey marched out to a barn on the family’s property where he retrieved a .38 caliber revolver, marched back into the house, and shot his stepmother in the head. Tyrone did not see it coming, what with her sitting on the couch and him sneaking up behind her and all.
At the sound of the gunshot, Paul and stepdaughter Marilea ran to the house to see what was going on. Upon walking through the door, Cody shot his father in the head, and seeing Marilea walking up behind his father, he shot her as well. His stepsister’s body was writhing about on the ground so he shot her in the head a second time so “she wouldn’t go tell or nothing.”
Cody then proceeded to obtain a backhoe which he used to carry the bodies to a manure pit where they were buried. Officials were able to follow the tracks to uncover the shallow grave.
But what is it that makes this story so special?
Well, Cody’s mom was actually awarded custody following her divorce from Paul. As she, Cody, and his stepfather were driving home to make a new life for themselves, their vehicle was struck and Cody’s mother was killed in the roll-over accident. Cody was a passenger in the car and witnessed his mother’s death.
Cody was terrified when he learned he was to be put back into the care of his father where he was verbally and physically abused during their custody battle. Paul’s second wife testified that she had protected Cody from his father’s wrath on many different occasions and at his trial, thirty-seven other witnesses retold accounts of Paul’s abusive ways. Two of which, fellow ranch hands, confirmed that on numerous occasions Cody had been smacked on the back of his hands with a hay hook, pointy end down. On another occasion, Paul had threatened to tear off Cody’s balls if he popped the clutch while driving the pick-up.
What really sent Cody over the edge was not getting slapped in the face, but when his father had tried to coerce Cody into having sex with Tyrone, who was also a proponent for Cody’s abuse, the night before. Paul’s second wife testified that Paul had an incest fetish and often watched pornography of that theme on his personal computer. He and Tyrone must have been a match made in heaven. After he refused to partake in this gross sexual act, Paul burned Cody with a welding iron.
Cody was convicted of first-degree murder in the killing of Marilea, second-degree murder in the death of Tyrone and voluntary manslaughter for the death of his father. The majority of the jurors wrote letters to the sentencing judge begging him to give Cody punishment as a juvenile and not an adult. Judge Counts spared the adult sentencing and gave Cody five years in a juvenile correctional facility, where he will be free to walk when he hits the age of 21. Had he been given the adult sentencing, he would have been in jail well into his 60′s.
Marilea’s biological father had this to say: “What we wanted for Cody was a chance, a chance to grow, a chance to be someone Judge Counts gave him that. Thank you … I do not believe that Marilea would have wanted Cody to be punished. He was already and she knew that.”
Cody’s defense attorney got emotional several times during the trial in which he attempted to speak of the ordeals Cody had been through. Gary Mitchell worked hard to make sure Cody would get nothing more than what he deserved.
“We put the blame on a 14-year-old for the sins and omissions of the adults,” Mitchell said. “This could have been prevented if those adults who stood by came forward, yet we expect him to act with greater courage.”
Does Cody Posy Deserve Hell?
- No, but his Father and Stepmother sure do (86%, 475 Votes)
- Yes, he killed his family (8%, 44 Votes)
- No one does (6%, 32 Votes)
Total Voters: 551
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This kid needs a hug not jail.
I agree that this kid is an exception and that he was driven to commit the crimes which he did as a result of the abuse which he went through. This world is a sick, sick place and I definately think Dad and Step-Mom got what they deserved in this case.
I went to school with Cody my sixth grade year at Cloudcroft Middle School , I went to church with Cody and Marilea at Mayhill Baptist Church. It makes me so sad to see that Cody has to be subjected to a website like this. He has suffered so much and he has served the time he was sentenced to by the American Justice System. My hope for him is that he will no longer have to be subjected to these kind of public questionings of him and can live a full life without people judging him for his past.
You’re sooo 100% correct. I doubt anyone will ever understand why Cody did what he did. Noone has ever had to live like that & go through what he went through. Some say they understand why he did it, and that they feel bad and all. But they also said they would never commit murder, and that murder shouldn’t have been an option. But in Cody’s case, it was his only option. Eventually, like what Gary Mitchell said during his closing arguement, if Cody hadn’t of killed his father, it would be Paul Posey standing trial for Cody’s murder. I hope he’s doing okay now. I see that he’s accomplished alot while he was away. And that he’s doing so much better now. I’m proud too have been one of his supporters here in Alamogordo. I believed in him 200%. And like I said in my post below, I hope everyone will leave him alone about everything and let him live a normal life.
In this case it seems the dad and step mum got off lightly. I hope Cody’s time goes quickly and he gets an early release.
I just hope he gets a decent therapist. This kids gonna have scars for a long long time without the right help.
I usually have very little sympathy for the ‘shitty childhood’ defense, but this kid is the exception. I remember this trial because they lived on Sam Donaldson’s ranch, and CourtTV followed it very closely. Istrated out not believing Cody, but by the end I had totally changed my mind and was glad the Judge gave him a break.
This case is a definate exception from my usual “let em all burn” attitude.
Personally, I didn’t vote because there was no option to go to hell for the murder of his sister.
Honestly I dont mind him killing the other two psycho’s — that was probably doing more good than bad — but killing his sister was not cool.
Codys step sister would often tell on him for things he did when he was out of his parents sight. If you read the story above he says “so she wouldnt go tell or nothing” so its not like he just randomly did it.
Yeah, yeah – another unsubstantiated accusation. Don’t you guys get tired of this crap?
And I’ not happy that he killed his step-sister either.
So according to you, “Unknown”, it would be perfectly acceptable for me to shoot my brother for every time he blamed me for shit he did, or every time he snitched on me? Damn, I wish I’d known that 20 years ago.
I highly doubt that your situation was at all comparable to Mr. Posey’s so your statement does not make sense.
I don’t think he needs a hug, but I do think he needs a chaperoned existence for the rest of his life. He’s like a pitbull that has been abused and mistreated until it becomes a murderous animal. What he did should be the end of his freedom, but not his existence.
I completely agree with you, Jason. I love the analogy, too. If a pitbull was beaten as a puppy, and then attacked someone, we would put the dog down. I know Cody is not a dog and that no child should have to go through what he went through, but children do it every day, and they dont kill their families. Murder is murder.
That’s actually where your wrong here… Your analogy of a pitbull being abused as a pup turning vicious later is not suitable when considering humans. Even if we ignore the breeding of the pitbull for this analogy, you can not ignore the fact that humans are capable of relearning, pit bulls really aren’t capable of this.
A dog has extremely basic instincts, that are honed as it grows, not one of these instincts happens to be self-control or free will. This is what makes humans different than animals, we have both of these abilities, which gives us the ability to differentiate between right and wrong, ascertain a future consequence based upon action, even long term consequences can be determined by us, a dog can think no further than the now…
In this instance, the accused did in fact excercise a great amount of self-control over himself as he was persecuted, and has since as far as we know maintained that self-control. This isn’t someone who spent their life on drugs, killing animals, mutilating children and so on. This specifically is an individual who has 1 case of losing control. However, even in his loss of control, he maintained amazing control over himself in that he was able to consider consequences and attempted to hide the bodies. Now, I’m not condoning this action, however you need to realize he was being oppressed by his father and all the adults he had come into contact with in this mess. Why should he have believed contacting the police before or after the incident would have any positive outcome for him? After all, the people he had met so far had only caused him immense pain (both physical and mental) and an unthinkable amount of suffering.
So, place yourself in Cody Posey’s shoes for a moment and really think about this. Imagine a bailing hook repeatedly driven into your hand. Imagine being raped, sold, mentally abused and basically torn down to the point of slug shit. How would you react? At what point would you have broken down and put an end to it?
While the death of the sister was unfortunate, Cody Posey does not maintain full responsibility for the events of that moment in which he killed and buried them. While the death of the sister is heart breaking, it is simply collateral damage and could have been avoided the same way this entire incident could of been avoided, but removing Cody Posey from the home and place the parents in a prison cell. We as a society caused this mess by sending him into that home when his mother died, it is our job to make it right with him now.
Well Said!!! Oh and another thing about the pit if you beat a pit when it is a puppy you break its spirit causing it to be scared therefor always jumping and unable to trust, it does not cause them to be evil or do bad things or even attack, that happens when the puppy is older! When the person ties the dog for hours on a chain of does not feed the dog, or beats the dog, but when its much older, thought i would share that with yuh.
I dont think that applies only to Pits tho. Most dogs when mistreated will learn to be aggressive.
I’ve thought about what you said for a bit of time here, and I hope you’re not offended by me returning to the subject.
I consider murderers to be monsters, possibly because I consider that the line that if I cross it, my own personal redemption is threatened. That’s a safety structure I had to build inside of me over the years to bottle up a bad temper and keep on a reasonable path. These were fixtures I had instinctual as well, but that things like pride, jealousy and vengeance tried to dictate.
In other words, life happened to me and when I had violent thoughts I developed barriers within me that prevent me from taking those steps the darker part of our soul creates. Cody lived in darkness. Cody’s escape from that darkness pushed him past all of the instinctual and artificial barriers. To give another analogy, have you ever seen a child figure out how to get to the cookie jar on top of a fridge? They don’t think to get the ladder out of the garage, they stack many things up precariously and re-invent the ladder–this ladder is dangerous. Cody was forced to reinvent murder, and the exponential sequence and magnitude of danger both to Cody and others mean that Cody has to be watched.
The pit bull analogy, comes from me knowing people who have tried to rehabilitate pit bulls. They talk about the ones that must be watched whenever they are not in their crate. They told me about watching animals, the dogs the pits use as anchors into a dog society, who sometimes live in their crates with them to keep them from getting lonely, and I thought about Cody.
Cody will need a watcher, a friend, someone to be the scaffolding for him to build a life on, while at the same time serving as a parole officer for that ladder analogy. I can’t push these analogies any further down the hill than I have, because I’m trying to wrap this around them. He needs to be protected from himself and others, but he does not deserve to die or be imprisoned. He is already imprisoned by the condition of treatment he lives in.
I appreciate the careful thought you gave DangerZone, I hope you respect and forgive how long it has taken me to come to a complete thought on this response. I accept your criticisms and I hope my modification serves to continue this dialogue.
Hi guys! I have been lurking for a long time – there being not much to say, and so much to do in the real world.
I feel for Cody. Really. I feel for his stepsister as well, and I have to wonder if she was also the victim of this bastard’s perversions? I too hope that this poor kid gets some serious therapy. If he fully matures and goes on to harm others, I will have no sympathy for him – but he is just a child, so the “victim” defense works for me for now.
I wish there was something that could be done to stop these sick freaks who torture kids.
Once upon a time I would have condemned the kid. After being on this site for this long though I have to say that I wish more abused kids ended up like him instead of corpses. I hope he gets what he needs to go on and live a healthy and happy life now.
God Damn it…. Now I actually have to put my morals and ethics to the test to make a decision here…. Do we send a kid to hell for what in the end is him simply trying to defend himself or do we let him go free…. Then do we let a kid who killed two innocent people go free or send him to hell…
This had to be one of the toughest questions ever for this judge & jury to face… I’m not sure I could of done it…..
There was not 2 innocent victims here only one! Poor Marilea.
I have to agree with Danger on this… I don’t know where to put judgement on this. I guess through his eyes they deserved what they got. If they were alive and the they table was turned we’d send the father & step mom to the chair for what they did to him, so I guess with that said, he just shortened the process…
sad.
I chose to do this story because after reading it, I knew it was going to be a curve ball from what we usually see. I was reading comments from another article where people were condemning vigilante justice and others where they said that the murder of another is absolutely inexcusable. On the other hand I’ve seen articles where people want to kill the child molesters and baby murderers so that the child could have had the chance to live.
So, here we have Cody Posey. A vigilante murderer? Someone who would have turned into another dead child had he been subjected to this much longer? Everyone is tired of these child abuse cases where children die but here the tides are turned. And I absolutely love his defense attorney’s last statement about how the adults (37 if you remember the article) had just stood idly by while Cody was abused but now that he took action in the only way he knew how, he was supposed to be punished while those witnesses could have prevented the whole thing.
Also, just a little FYI, Cody was diagnosed with PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder) after watching his mother die just a few years earlier.
Another awesome thought provoking story.
I like your stories because they challenge the usual PYSIH routine of putting the very worst, obviously hellbound freaks on show. Their ambiguous nature and objectivity are a welcome break from the status quo.
Although i do love the Admin’s sharp wit and Max The Cats superior writing style ……I always know the mother fuckers are going to hell before i even read the story……..I read about their horrible crimes then sit on my high horse and condemn them to hell.
(well in fact all the bloggers are excellent i have not read a bad story yet…….Though the more emotional make me rather uncomfortable…….and make the crimes a bit more human and less entertaining)…….
Cases like this one and the Meiwes one are not as clean cut. You have to take circumstances into account and make a judgement on based on the facts….these stories also raise questions about consent and diminished responsibility……that’s what makes a good PYSIH story for me when it goes beyond the crime into something deeper………for example that murder video story had people divided on the issue of censorship
….(Like that Tice guy who shot his wife i don’t think he’s going to hell because i think he was not in sane mind……Many would disagree)
But i believe this kid was pushed into doing what he did…..but i think he may be damaged irreparably and might present a threat if freed……the poor fucker didn’t stand a chance at a happy life…..they should just put the fucker out of his misery
A sad case indeed
keep up the good work :)
Awww, thanks Stormy!
Oh hell. Awesome write up YoMomma. This one is rough. I don’t feel bad for the dead parents, that’s for sure. I feel terrible about the sister, but I also feel terrible for Cody. I’m not sure I wouldn’t flip out and shoot someone who abused me physically and was edging into sexually… What a sad story. It’s amazing to see the bio-dad of the girl placing the blame in a reasonable place- on the shitty parents who did this to this kid. If he’d have gone to a mall and shot up the place, you’d see no sympathy from me, but he didn’t-he shot the bastards that were hurting him. Again- don’t know how to feel about the sister. I imagine he was in a pretty freaked out place.
The more I think about this story, the more I hope the judge showed compassion within his sentencing for this young man. While I will never condone the killing of his sister, I can condone, even applaud, this young man for standing up to his father.
Back when I was in law school I had to find a way to defend the Watt’s Riots back in the 60′s. When first handed this assignment, I was appalled to think that rioting could ever be defended in a court of law, after all, rioting on the surface appears to be a violent, self-serving act. But once I looked into the specifics more closely and began to think with the same mindset as the rioters, it became easy to defend.
You see, the rioters had a right under the Constitution to redress the government for their grievances and to seek a cure of those grievances. In this instance, the grievancee was they felt they we’re being oppressed by the government there fore they redressed the government for this in the only manner they knew, to riot. Seems like a stretch, but it’s actually not.
Now, to bring this into perspective with Cody, his father was the government and he needed to end the oppression the government was inflicting upon him. His form of redress? A shotgun. Cody Posey most likely saw this as a war and at the moment the acts occurred, he was so filled with anger and hurt he never could of even realized that his step-sister might be on his side. Actually, it shows more than anything, that he felt it was him against the world as he had been subjected to physical, mental & sexual abuse for so long at the hands of so many.
I’m glad to know that Mr. Posey will be out soon and have an opportunity to actually live his life. I pray that the judge has helped him gain an education and find counseling to deal with all the issues that arise when one is raised under these condition. In addition, his record should be sealed on this issue and not be available to every Tom Dick & Harry who might be considering him for a job, housing or school.
Good luck Cody.
I think that he killed his dad and step mother is justice. He had to protect himself and should have gone down the self defense route at his trial.
The killing of the step sister thought was wrong. I know he was probably running on adreneline and scared shitless, but that girl probably suffered the same way he did. She deserved a chance of a better life. They both did. And while he will get his chance, she never will.
This was exceptionally well written YoMomma. Im loving your write ups.
The interesting thing about his sister was that it has been reported that they actually treated her exceptionally well. It was also reported that whenever Cody did something wrong, they went out of their way to praise Marilea in contrast. They supposedly used her success to exhaggerate Cody’s failures.
Poor kids. Her being used to hurt him…what nasty cunts.
I’m so sorry for thinking this – but maybe it’s because she was doing what they wanted.
Yeah it crossed my mind too. Its not unususal for abused kids to take any affection and attention they can. She would have felt that she was loved. Sad.
While I do believe that killing of the father and stepmother was justified, the killing of the step sister was not.
I do not wish that Cody spend any time in jail, but the killing of his step sister disturbs me – I do not want to see him out with the rest of us.
I do believe that he should be institutionalized in a way where is is free to have a decent life, but in a manner where society is protected from a podwer keg like him and he is protected from those who’d ignite him.
I’m not so sure that he is a powder keg Fred, rather it appears that this young man withstood a tremendous amount of abuse before he finally went off. Imagine having a bailing hook driven into your hand repeatedly, and not just one incident repeated times, but repeated incidents.
Now, figure in the rapes and being sold basically by his father to another man. The very people he was supposed to be able to trust, adults, were the very ones ripping him apart at every opportunity. The father was into incest and obviously homosexual acts on young males, he was also a voyeurist and got off on inflicting harm on this boy.
The adults his father brought around, were the types of individuals who also found gratification in harming him and acting out homosexual acts against him. He maintained his self-control for far longer than I ever would of. Seriosly, the first time I got a bailing hook through my hand I’d of been going after a gun, chain, bat or anything else I could to protect myself.
I say we do let this young man out, maybe take time to introduce him slowly back into society via controlled living, half-way houses and eventually let him be on his own. It’s going to take a lifetime of counseling to keep help him be a productive contributor to society, but society owes him this.
Something a bit similar happened about 22-23 years ago here (boy shot his abusive father) It was an ambush, and his sister knew about it. Looking back, and knowing how the system worked, (or didn’t) sometimes it takes an awful decision to remedy an awful situation. If the adults who are supposed to be helping, and don’t, what in the hell can a kid do if he’s tired of getting abused? Both kids here got counseling and juvenile time. They drifted into “obscurity” and I for one leave them there, they’ve been through enough. I truly hope that Cody can be allowed the peace due every child, mind, body, and soul.
I got ahead of myself when I posted. It did unnerve me about including his stepsister in the act. I can’t really wrap my head around that, and really wish it didn’t go down like that. Adrenaline? Fear? Anger? All of the above? I’d have to agree with the first degree rap, but the lenient time in my opinion was good too. I hope he can get with some really good therapists, and be able to have them for a long time. I think it’s going to take a while to “undo” the kind of life that led up to this as well as the acts themselves.
i have a hard time seeing how this kid could have acted rational enought to not kill the stepsister. Yes it was wrong, but it seems that he was scared and sick of being treated bad. He probably would have killed anyone there that was a wittness to the crime. Which is why he tried to clean up by buring the bodies. This story is just tragic all the way around. What I don’t get is why after all the wittnesses to the dad’s behavior, why did the son go to him? There had to be some one else. This is another example of the system failing, and people taking justice into their own hands. We should be seeing more of this.
Another interesting tid-bit… The biological mother was awarded custody after Paul surrendered it to her. They signed the legal documents and were on their way. His mother died and three days later they decided that the contract was void because Paul printed his name instead of signed it.
Cody had an aunt who fought for him the whole time and stood beside him in the courtroom. When he was found guilty she bawled and bawled until she collapsed and had to be taken out by paramedica on a stretcher. She’s a compassionate woman and I am sure that if his custodial contract was not ruled as “void” she probably would have been given custody. But since it was, he went to the closest blood relative- his father.
I hope the people that didn’t use common sense dealing with his custody issues are aware of the carnage they could have prvented. There is no good reason to send an abused child back to his abuser because of a clerical issue. If people would quit being selfish try to look out for someone else, this kid may have been able to be a productive member of society. Not that I think getting rid of loosers isn’t productive, but a happy productive person is optimal.
Really, what were they thinking sending Cody back to his dad after his mother died? For once, a foster home might have been a better choice.
No kidding. Kills me. Catch a mom with some pot, and out of the house and to the foster families they go, but shit like this they just throw them back with the abusive father. Not defending doper parents, I just think it’s fucked.
I remember watching this trial on TV… when I first saw the article I thought “wtf, this kids dad deserved it” and I am glad that is where you took this article… This poor kid had to suffer through his whole life at the hands of his sick father, and then his sick step mom joined in on the fun… maybe this kid should be hailed as a hero, instead wasting tax payer money on putting him in jail…. thats just MY OPINION….
I thought I was going to be the odd one out but most of us felt the same when it came to the vote.
At 14 years of age, kids really are in a situation of helplessness. Cody had evidentally told adults that he was being abused, but the system failed to protect him, so he probably felt that killing his perpertrators was the only solution. I wonder if in retrospect he regrets killing his step-sister? My guess is that once he started shooting, he probably lost control. There was a similar case in my neck of the woods a year ago–a 14 year old girl who was sexually abused on a nightly basis by her father and his friends finally snapped and shot her father to death. Instead of jail, she’s receiving psychiatric treatment. I hope that Cody receives psychiatric treatment while he’s in juvenile detention, because if he doesn’t, he’s going to be a time bomb when he’s released in five years. Which brings me to another point–why are children in these situations sent to juvenile detention rather than to a residential psychiatric facility? I suspose because the latter is too expensive, and HMO’s don’t cover the cost. It’s easier to warehouse children. But society will pay the cost if this kid is released without having had the mental health treatment he desperately needs.
What gets me the most is the same theme that runs through many of these stories.. whether it kids who kill their abusive parents or die of abuse…
So many see them being abused and do NOTHING. They don’t want to get involved, a little beating never hurt anybody yadda yadda
End result.. the child ends up dead or someone else does and we hear… I should have done something.
Well, unless I’m reading something wrong, it looks to me like he gave those sick fucks exactly what they deserved. The only one who didn’t appear to deserve to die was his step-sister.
Yeah, she seems to be the only true innocent in this whole mess. It looks to me like Cody just snapped and killed everyone in the house. Don’t you wish you lived next door and suddenly found out what was going on BEFORE he did snap? I know I would have done everything in my power to rescue that kid from the animal that called himself his father. Maybe just knowing someone cared could have stopped Cody from ruining his life.
Did I read that right? They placed Cody back with his father, even though they knew he abusive, and even though his aunt wanted him, just because of the way his dad signed his name?
Yup, you read it right Lena. Sad isnt it. Im wondering why, when all the abuse was going on and the workers and stuff saw Cody being abused, no one stepped in to help him.
This was all preventable.
WTF! This was absolutley preventable! Omg, this kid had the deck stacked against him from the moment his mom died. This was a major fuck up for the system!
The first comment on this forum takes the cake. I doubt the intention of the commenter was to make this commentee laugh – but it did. Murdering someone of course isn’t the answer, but I imagine this boy was educated on where to get help. Murdering his family was wrong but not unthinkable. The term ‘damaged goods’ comes to mind in this case. Poor kid, but come on fucko, no reason to blow your sister away.
I like the hee-haw picture with grandpa in the middle.
It’s a classic picture.
What a sick demented depraved bastard this boy is to do something like that!!
Even though he might have been forced to do something that he didn’t want to do, two wrongs don’t make it right!
~Malik7.
So what would have been your solution?….
Funny…the only other supposed witnesses to the sexual abuse (other than the killer) are all dead because he murdered them. Oh yeah – and he killed his 11 year old sister – - or does anyone give a crap about that? Well I hope all the suckers that felt sorry for him are happy that this ‘victim’ could now be your neighbor.
I would let him live with my husband son and me, That is how much I believe in Cody. I think he done all he knew to do under the circumstances.. When he called the cops or DSS was called in they never done a damn thing about it, and the ranch hands were to scared to stand up to Paul because of his temper. But by golly they sure stood up for Cody.. I am so thankful that they come forward and helped him out, or Cody would be in prison right now, just like he was through his childhood years. Justice was served in the right way. As far as his stepsister goes..she was an instigator that kept the wrath going between all of them, she got her calling as well. Sometimes the balcksheep has to stand up for himself and this one sure did.
BTW – those of us that are REALLY victims of abuse, don’t kill our parents, our sister, and then go party like it’s the 4th of July. Cry for the real abused children in this world that need your prayers!!! Justice will be left for God to sort out now.
Louis,
You say “us that are REALLY victims of abuse” so I will assume you have been a victim of abuse and for that my heart goes out to you. I do think as you have been a victim af abuse, you should have a better understanding than those that haven’t of how such abuse can screw up the undeveloped mind of a child. We all deal with situations differently and just because you dealt with your situation in a certain way doesn’t mean that all people in similar situations will respond accordingly. By capitalising REALLY you create a tone of disbelief that this boy was being abused. His abuse was confirmed by other ranch hands so I have a tendency to believe he was abused. Although Cody did not handle the situation that he found himself in, in a way that is acceptable to society I feel that any person that has REALLY been a victim of abuse could see why he chose to handle the situation in this way and would show some compassion and forgiveness to him.
I was a victim of abuse Louis an i can tell ya, i would lay awake at night thinking of ways that i could do my father in. It took years a abuse and a lot of fear and an absolute certainty that there was no other way out for me to get to that stage. And i knew it was to either kill him or somehow escape. I was lucky and escaped.
Did i lock myself away after leaving? No. I went out and partied like tomorrow would never come. Years of not having any choice or freedom made me hungry for fun and life experience.
I settled down after a few years but still deal with the abuse on a daily basis. It never just disappears.
Everyone deals with trauma in their own way. You shouldnt be so quick to judge.
Because I know what really happened and am shocked that everybody can not see the truth and because it was not allowedto come out in the court let me tell you what happened the night that Cody claims his parents wanted to have sex with him. Cody was very obsessed with Marilea. Cody went to Marilea that night and raped her. Cody was caught in this act by Paul and was told that they would deal with him in the morning. Cody knew that he had to act fast , so he plotted the killings and tried to get his stories together. DO NOT believe that he was alone in this either. Another fact that almost made it into the court was the fact that after Cody killed his family he tried to rape his dead mother as well.Don’t believe it? Go back to the records, she was found with her bra undone and pulled up and her belt was undone and her pants pulled down. If his semen could have been found in her it would have made his story even more believable ( smart kid). The burns that he says he received for not having sex with his mother were at least a week old already (starting to scab over) and guess what the torch that was supposed to have been used found in the shop behind other tools had not been touched for awhile. Was Murdering his family really the only way out of this abusive situation? Yes, because Cody was the one that was delivering the abuse!! Poor Cody? Poor Marilea ! RAPED and then MURDERED and then still drug through the mud for telling on Cody. Poor parents ! Can you imagine trying to raise a kid that is capable of doing the things that Cody did? Then catching him ,someone that they love ,doing such an evil act to their daughter. They had no idea how to handle this problem. I can’t even imagine the nightmare those three had to endure with that cold blooded rapist and murderer. Maybe it was a good thing that he did kill them kind of a mercy killing for them.
So everyone who testified in court, under oath, that they had wittnessed Cody being abused lied? And the police who investigated botched the whole fucking thing and let a murderer run free? Im sorry, but i need more than just here say. If there was signs of rape on the daughter and the mother this would have been investigated. Police generally dont like rapists. And there WOULD have been signs. Not just removed bra’s but actual signs of penetration and vaginal scarring. And they WOULD have found semen if anyone had been raped ( unless of course he used a condom and then they would have found traces of latex and spermicide) and they WOULD have checked DNA. Having a wash after a rape can and does wash away semen…but not all traces and i know this to be a fact. The police are not a bunch of dumb assed red necks looking to lynch just anyone.
If you have any absolute proof instead of back yard gossip, please present it.
Isn’t it amazing how friends of the family seem to know all these things? It’s amazing that all this damning evidence that Shanda is talking about failed to sway the jurors…
you go girls
believe me if that was the case he would never leave the prison
Shanda I can not understand why these people think it is ok for the things Cody did and I am so sorry you have to deal with these ignorant people(I love you guys!)! You people have to realize that not only did Cody take the life of his father( who was a great man) his step mother, and his step sister (who was a sweet heart), but he also took something away from the rest of his family and those who cared about them. Ask any one who went to their funeral… they were amazing!
I also went to school with Cody and his cousins as well. I knew Paul because he worked for us, and I knew his step mom and step sister as well. They were not bad people. They were actually fun loving amazing people. Cody just didnt like the fact that he couldnt get away with all the bull crap that his mother let him get away with. When you grow up in a ranching environment yeah you will get your ass whipped when you do something wrong. BUT that does NOT give you the right to take someones life because you got your ass whipped for doing something you werent supposed to do.
The Posey family, well they are all amazing and wonderful people. I have done my best to keep up with them and have seen over the years how they have slowly put their lives back together. Im sure its not easy to be known as a family member of this monster. And yes maybe Cody has changed, maybe he did turn over his life to God… but that is not going to bring back the 3 lives he took. NO ONE should be allowed to take someone elses life. Only God can judge us… we should not inflict pain on others. It is wrong!
Knowing some of the “untold” that the media didnt want to uncover brings in a new light. Of course the media isnt going to tell you everything that happened behind the scenes…. You would have to be very ingorant to believe they would. The media portrays a scoop that they want every one to believe(on his behalf). But people do need to know that the information that wasnt told would have turned this case completely around!
I would not wish anyone to go to hell.. ever. However I hope Cody remembers EVERY SINGLE DAY that he screwed up, and that this follows,or haunts him the rest of his life. I dont wish an easy life for him, not one bit. I hope he has asked God for forgiveness, as well as forgiveness from the Posey family and the other family members and close friends as well. This didnt only affect his life, but many around him. Dont feel bad for this kid… if he wanted help… if ANY of what he said was true(not that I believe any of it)…. he had options.School counselors, family, friends, cops… anything else would have been better. Murder was by far not the best one!!!
RIP Paul, Tryone and Marilea.
“You people have to realize that not only did Cody take the life of his father( who was a great man) his step mother, and his step sister (who was a sweet heart), but he also took something away from the rest of his family and those who cared about them. Ask any one who went to their funeral… they were amazing!”
Yeah they sound amazing like the modern day Brady Bunch right?!? What about all those witnesses that testified about abuse? What about the 2nd wife saying how he had an “incest fetish?”
So let me get this right Jen, you can beat a child, force them to have sex with family members, and publicly humiliated. Not to mention the fact that he saw his mother die right in front of his eyes. Which is a bigger sin…all the above or murder? I mean you should know this since you are saying “we can’t judge only God can”….wait a second aren’t you judging us for judging him/them? Isn’t judging just as big of a sin as murder? Maybe you should think about that before you come here trying to preach to us about what’s right. Thank u and have a nice day!!
Tiffany- I was stating my opinion, everyone is entitled to that. I dont know why you are bashing me about it. However how do you know that any of what he said was even true?! I said that I didnt believe it, arent I allowed to have my own opinion. Who are you to tell me that I am wrong. I have looked at things from both sides of the fence, and I didnt say that Cody deserved hell.. I wished nice things on him… which is nice of me considering I know him and his whole family…. If you knew even the slightedt bit of the information that I know you might look at things in a new prospective. BUT that is MY OPINION and I am enitiled to it. If what happened was true then yes all sins are equal, none greater than the other. BUT just because someone commits one sin doenst give you the right to committ another to make it “even”.
I thought this was a site where people could voice their opinons?! I wasnt preaching… Dont bash on people. Peoples opinions are meant to be expressed. If I so choose to write mine down… YOU shouldnt bash on it.
Thanks and have a nice day.
Jen, you weren’t giving us your opinion, you were trying to convince us that the facts presented at Cody’s trial were wrong, and that you somehow know the “real story”. We’re always very, very suspicious of people like you, because there’s never any proof given to back up the supposed now “facts”. Also, we all would like to know why you didn’t testify to these facts in court.
You’re trying to say that all the witnesses who swore they saw Cody being abused were lying, along with the psychologists/psychiatrists who testified on his behalf. You also want us to believe that important evidence of Cody’s guilt was kept out of the courtroom.
Our question to you is why? Why go through the incredible amount of trouble it would take to get all these people to cooperate, just to get one 16-year-old kid off the hook.
None of your post makes any sense, and if it doesn’t make sense, it’s probably not true. That’s not my opinion, that’s just the way it is.
I sure did do something about it thank you very much. A family member of mine actually had to explain a set up of our pens that cody was supposedly “abused” at. He said we were all there and that we all saw what Paul did. Guess who got caught in one of his many lies… And don’t think that I didn’t do anything about it…. I was asked to write a letter explaining all that I knew and witnessed. So don’t think I didn’t do my part.
Oh and by the way. It is my opinion in my own words… take it or leave it. Besides its not like anything anyone says here is going to change what happened. It won’t bring them back and it won’t change his sentencing… so what does it matter. Drop it.
Oh no Jen, you can’t just say “drop it”. You brought it up, you said we were ignorant, so now you have to finish what you started.
I’m not so sure your family member’s testimony was perceived by the jury the way you describe it. I watched that trial on CourtTV, and I don’t recall any time that Cody was caught in a lie. And apparently your testimony wasn’t important enough to be heard by the jury at all.
The jury convicted Cody of the charges against him, as they should have. Murder is never the answer to anything. But the mitigating factors in this case justified the relatively light sentence Cody received. The jurors wanted it, the judge wanted it and most everyone who, like me, followed this case on CourtTV wanted it too.
Look around this website and you can count on one hand the number of times I supported a light sentence for a perpetrator. It’s something I don’t take lightly. But in my mind, Cody was a victim too, and that makes what you’re doing victim bashing – a mortal sin around here.
Considering that fact, you’ve been treated very well, by me and by Tiffany. Your complaints about her comments were unfair, and your comments about Cody were even more unfair.
Wow, Max. She sure told you. Allow me to illustrate how you got told, because I’d hate for you to miss the telling:
“Besides its not like anything anyone says here is going to change what happened. It won’t bring them back and it won’t change his sentencing… so what does it matter. Drop it.”
Mmmm, powerful stuff. Intensely nihilistic. I especially liked the ‘Drop it” part, that’s the bit that appeals to the common man. Spiritually moving. Thought-provoking. It’s like she transformed into the internet commentator’s version of Bach penning the Goldberg Variations, and made a post that’s so profoundly deep, so right to the intellectual heart of the matter, that I need a full case of Gatorade to recover. She’s saying “Don’t talk about anything that happened in the past, don’t try to reason it out, speculate about it or even rant against it to release your anger, because it won’t change what happened so what’s the point!” It’s almost god-like in its simplicity, isn’t it?
I feel schooled. Don’t you feel schooled? Max? Do you feel it, the schooling? Not ‘private schooled’, of course, but at least ‘public schooled’. At any rate, I don’t think you have any choice but to shut down the entire website. Jenn has rendered it invalid.
hi
ive been reading some of the replies and comments being left about cody. and i want to thank everyone who can sympathies with him.
i used to goto school with cody before this happended i left a year before and cody was no where near to being a horrible killer. he was so nice and so amazing as a person. he never did anything that would make you think other wise. you are probably thinking, thats how they all start off, but if you ever met him you would never say that.
Hey~
Was reading over this case, all I got too say is this young boy won’t go too hell but the parents sure will! HOW DARE THEY! Man if I was a judge, parents like that I would say it’s right for them too get punish! NOBODY needs abuse esp. psycially & sexually just because his dad & step mom were sick in the head, they should of just cheated on each other if they that hard up! I don’t get why do people, what too hurt there own kids or a kid? Why does God give people kids, who clearly are retarded in parenting! I’m 18 about too have a kid, I even know better never too lay a hand on it, OMG burn him for not having sex his dad really the one gunna burn! All I got too say about this case, he does deserve life in prison but maybe parole somewhat why should he suffer because his parents are mentally ill?
I hope the parents go to hell they have or had NO RIGHT FOR THIS MAYBE NEXT TIME PARENTS DO THIS THEY READ THIS CASE SEE KIDS DON”T TAKE SICK TWISTEDNESS FOR LONG!
I think its lame that Cody Posey is on this site, considering that this evening, I saw the same man in the photographs above, getting baptized and telling a congregation of about four hundred people about how God had changed him from the inside out. I don’t know about anyone else, but I think that the premise of this site is rather offensive, making the judgement that someone belongs in hell when they know very little about that person.
I was in that congregation and I praise God for the change that he can do in someones life when they let Him. And I totally agree with you about this site. They don’t know this kid just what hes done and they can’t see beyond that. Right now Cody is in the book of life and HE IS NOT GOING TO HELL!!
You know what He isn’t going to hell. I know him and he has given his life to Christ who forgives us or sins. He’s a good kid and people just need to leave him alone. He got the raw end of the stick with his life and the only people that are going to hell are his parents As for his sister maybe he shouldn’t have shot her, and that may be something he lives with for the rest of his life, but God has forgiven him for that too.
If you Jesus freaks would stop preaching for one second and actually look at the results of the vote, you would see that 86% of the people who voted thought Cody Posey was justified when he killed his family. I myself have a real problem with his killing of his stepsister, who by all accounts was an innocent, but I don’t believe we know enough to condemn him for that.
And, once again, let me reinforce the fact that our polls are symbolic. No one who’s in their right mind believes for one second that we are voting to send anyone to the Biblical Hell. The vote is meant to represent our disgust and anger at the action of whatever criminal we happen to be discussing in the associated story. It never fails, however, that some zealot assumes that there has to be religious connotations to everything.
Yes we are Jesus freaks but the point of the matter is Zekalmon is just saying for people to stop judging. none of us are perfect and no that still does not justify it but he has been forgiven by the man who will judge us all. Jesus said “”let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”. I believe that disqualify’s everyone. He is a nice and Christian man now. His past will always live with him but is now forgiven.
God Bless You All.
Cody did what he had to do. The majority of us cynical types believe that, and we are not easily swayed to the side of the murderer.
Must the preachy folks on this board use every possible opening to thrust god in our faces? Give it a fucking rest, please! The more annoyingly self-righteous you get, the more you push us away. Why can’t you see that?
Sorry not trying to upset you. I’m just stating a fact. I love you all so i apologize if I come off self-righteous. In all i hope you all find your way. With Love & May God Bless.
*sigh*. I’m sorry, JF. I was a bit too harsh on you. I don’t mean to act like a bitch with a sandy vagina. ;)
Point is, we all agree about Cody. All I can do is feel terrible for his circumstance, and hope he eventually has a good, normal life.
VCBecky it’s okay i didnt take it personally i know all poeple get causet up in the moment.
Yes I agree, he is a good kid and knowing him now I know he will live his life as a good christian man.
May God Bless
Cody’s family was no family they hated him so much they got what they deserved if i were Cody i’d take a knife and shove it up their pusses how could anyone hate their own child so much ? Cody had every right to kill them i hope they rot in Hell and never stop rotting Cody Posey can finally relax now that their dead that prosecuter lady’s a real bitch too Cody’s no pyschopath he’s a hero they need to release him now ! Who’ agrees with me ?
What does BTW stand for ?
By The Way
Thanks vcbecky now what does FTW stand for ?
In this instance it means For The Win. Try internetslang.com . Not that I mind helping you, it’s just that this will be more convenient for you. There are a lot of acronyms used online and in text, and some are really funny!
I always thought it was biker-speak for Fuck The World.
It’s that too, Max! :)
LOL! I remember once someone quoted me and said “QFT” and I got defensive. Just so you all know, it does NOT mean Quit Fucking Talking LOLOLOL! It means Quoted For Truth, for all future references.
OMG did they hate Cody that much why does everyone hate Cody so much ? He never did a damn thing to them.
Hmm…I don’t recall reading about this before, and I just did today because the most recent comments have “bumped” it back onto the front page again.
37 witnesses testifying under oath that they saw Cody being abused? THIRTY-SEVEN?! I could go rob the closest bank at high noon tomorrow and still not have it witnessed by that many people!
This kid went to considerable effort to bury his father, stepmother and stepsister in a manure pit with a backhoe. The only conclusion one can draw is that it was done out of EXTREME hatred and rage. With more than three dozen people coming forward to tell of the abuse they know was inflicted on him I feel pretty confident Cody did not do this just because Daddy took his PlayStation away.
This case is very similar to another one that evoked a very strong feeling of sympathy in me: Jeremiah Berry.
I know I would be completely unafraid of having him or Cody Posey sitting on my couch or at my dinner table.
i know you soulndnt be he came a really good friend 2 me and gave me alot of good advice in yddc cody is a wonderful person to be around
Sandrah Grisahn was a very naive,corrupt prosecuter i hope she lost her job and never gets hired she should have gotten jail instead of Cody.
I can’t believe he and Eric Smith were treated worse than Josh Phillips Cody and Eric are good kids Josh is fucking crazy killing a little girl just because he’s scared of his dad just because he’s big and has a bad temper Eric killing that little boy is brutal too but he and Cody deserve better than Josh i hope he never gets out and the other boys do Eric’s tale should have been number 1 on TYTK (E!).
it is soo sad how happy the 3 look like before there son murdered them
Yeah, it looks like Paul and Tyrone are gonna take Marilea to the bedroom for some of that incest fetish the couple were so fond of. Every time I see a picture of those two people I get the heebee-jeebees.
Marilea looks very uncomfortable in that picture. Can’t say I blame her. This wasn’t a happy, healthy family unit, Sam.
Yeah, the arms crossed in front of her and the way she is leaning her body backwards so as little of her torso as possible is touching him are not good signs of a happy picture.
What he did was wrong, but this is one of those cases where his motivation and mental state are definitely mitigating factors.
As i watched on TYTK Cody could never do anything correct around Paul everything he did was wrong he was never allowed to much of a little boy, Cody had a fucking horrible life the way his family treated him i think they enjoyed it i think they would have done it again if Cody had not have fought back.
Fuck Paul Tryone and Marlie they should brun in Hell !!!!! God bless Cody.
CODY IS RELEASED WITHIN THIS NEXT MONTH!
Really? That’s wonderful! Hopefully he gets all the help he needs and deserves. Thanks so much for the terrific news!
Poor Marilea. She lost her life at 13. In the end, she’s the primary victim in all of this.
This kid got off too easy. Sure, he suffered abuse, but when he turned that gun on the last of the victims – Marilea, that’s the point when he went too far. If only he would have spared her, but he didn’t, and that’s why I believe that he should do time in prison if only for murdering her. Sorry, kid, but why did you have no mercy?
This is one of the few cases where I believe the perp was temporarily insane, driven that way by years of horrible abuse that most of us can’t even imagine. I believe he shot Marilea when he wasn’t himself. I believe he feels lots of remorse for that, and he wishes he hadn’t done it.
She was an innocent victim, and did not deserve what she got. I think Cory should spend some mandatory time with a therapist. I don’t think prison is the place for him.
Cody Posey, The Teen Who Murdered His Family Is Free From Prison
posted 30 March 2010 05:54 in the abq journal
Cody Posey, just 14 years old when he killed his father, stepmother and stepsister on a southern New Mexico ranch in 2004, was released Monday from the Youth Diagnostic and Development Center in Albuquerque to a local reintegration facility, KOB-TV is reporting.
The sensational killings took place on one of former TV newsman Sam Donaldson’s New Mexico, where Posey’s family worked.
Posey claimed during his trial that he snapped because of physical and sexual abuse within the family, according to KOB-TV.
Officials told Eyewitness News 4 that the reintegration center that is accepting Posey is unsecured, but staffers are present 24 hours a day.
Posey will eventually be allowed to leave for work or school and will spend the next three months getting ready to re-enter society, KOB-TV said
I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, ofcourse
the kid got treated bad, but why couldn’t he call
911, or just runaway, if he’s smart enough to load
a gun he’s smart enough to cry out for help.
I feel bad for the relatives of the victims, here’s a kid
that says he shot his step sister to keep her from
testifying against him, what about her? unbelievable.
what happened here the sentence was to light,
for what he did, and to get 5 years of psychiatric
help is unbelievable, just unbelievable????????????
What was he,14?
Call the cops,have them come over and question your parents.Parents deny everything,punishment and abuse becomes worse.
Or runaway?
Okay,and what kind of work is he going to get to support himself?Only occupation immediately coming to mind for me is prostitution.Soo much better.
The dss were called and nothing ever come about it. I think he snapped after awhile of being abused and knowing daily every time you open your eyes the next morning what the day has in store for you.. It was bound to happen sooner or later. You can only take so much abuse and with him being treated the way he was I certainly do not blame him one bit. I do not condone murder, but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. Thank God he is a free man!!!
I know this is an old story but I’m just now going through all the PYSIH archives after discovering it last week.
This story was extremely well written… I didn’t expect the ending.
I understand why Cody did what he did. The abuse was escalating and he felt he had no way out. He’d escaped the abuse once — only to lose his mother and be put right back with his father. He must’ve felt like he would never be able to escape, and it wasn’t like he could tell anyone what happened since the system that was created to help him was the same one that returned him to his father.
It is awful that he killed his stepsister when she may have been falling victim to their perversions as well, but it’s not hard to see why he did, if you take it from his perspective. After all, they used her to manipulate him, painting her as this perfect child and everything Cody was not. If she was being abused, he certainly didn’t know about it since I’m sure the two weren’t close, considering how the parents used the sister to keep control of Cody. So add that to the adrenaline and terror he must have been feeling after pulling the two triggers…
I hope that he receives a lifetime of psychiatric care to ensure that he wasn’t absolutely destroyed by the abuse, and I do hope he was being honest about what happened to him.
I think he was totally 100% honest.. the witness’s validated that. I am sooo glad he is out and has a brand new life with a beautiful girlfriend. He deserves so many good things in life. Keep your head high Cody you deserve it.
Hmmm, I was very into this trial when it was airing live on court tv, and I felt sooo very bad for this child, now a man. I cannot imagine being stuck like crazy glue in a situation I could not get out of. I don’t know if I would ever go and commit murder, but, then again, never had to suffer through situations like that. I don’t know how God would see it, although one of God’s many standards are ‘Spare the rod and spoil the child’. In this case Paul Posey did the exact opposite. I hope this kid has been rehabilitated and is able to function in our society without anyone harrassing him about his past. I’d say, leave him alone and let him finally live a normal life.
This is not the case of a cold blooded killer. He was just a boy who was pushed too far.
cody posey is a piece of crap he should die for what he did when he dies he will burn in hell his parents and stepsister did nothing wrong to him he is a liar and a faggot punk.
That’s not what the witnesses said BARRY. 37 witnesses testified at Cody’s trial that they either saw bruises/wounds or saw the actual abuse. So fuck you BARRY.
Did you even watch the trial dude, you need to lay off of this young man and get a grip on life, Maybe you too were as mean and hateful as his family was. now sit back and shut the hell up
I watched the trial and cried so much over Cody and what he had to endure from his so called family. I was so relieved he got the help that he needed and is now a free man. You can tell this young man had morals, respect, compassion just by looking at him in the courtroom.
I am so thankful that so many people come forward on Cody’s behalf and spared him from an even worse time in prison. His lawyer was one hell of a good one and Cody is very lucky to have had him in his corner. good luck in the future Cody, and I do not expect you’ll being going to hell.. so this page should not even have your face on it.
True believer in you Lisa
ARE YOU PEOPLE RETARDED. THE STEPDAUGHTER WAS AN INNOCENT VICTIM. PLUS THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN TO RUN AWAY. DOGS THAT ARE BEATEN RUN AWAY IF THEY ARE NOT IN A STEEL CAGE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HIS BOSS AT WORK RIDES HIS ASS FOR A YEAR.
Jake, yes we all agree the step-daughter was innocent. I don’t think anyone here denies that. My opinion is that Cody knew what it felt like to lose his biological mother and it devestated him so much that he didn’t want Marilea going through that pain(losing a mother) Maybe it sounds crazy to you but you got to think….he was a child with a child’s mentality.
I a child runs away they get punished as labeled as a troubled kid. Plus like someone else stated how would a 14 year old support themselves? Prostitute himself? That’s not a good solution. I think it was stated he reached out for help previously at no avail. DHR didn’t help,police didn’t help, the kid felt it was his only way out.
To Cody if you read or stumble across this site please understand most of the regulars on PYSIH are standing behind you. God Bless you and hopefully you can now live a productive life.
One more thing Jake, it isn’t nice to call us all Retarded because you disagree with some of the opinions. Remember opinions are like ASSHOLES….everyone has one.
I…I have nothing but sadness for this poor bastard. Seriously. *hugs*
Wow. This is one that even *I* have sympathy for. I feel for Cody, and hope being run through the system doesn’t make him come out worse for it on the other side. The only thing I do shame him for is killing his step-sister, and would give him jail for that. Other than that, it’s understandable why he took out his sperm donor and step mom. If more kids who were *actually* being abused would do that, we might run out of reports to read on this site!
I followed this case on TV, and I must say it was very sad to hear him discuss his home life. This kid endured a lot. I was physically & emotionally abused as a child, and parents that abuse their kids, know how to hide very well their darkness. I hope that he is doing well, and that he can put this behind him. That time he served, hopefully has taught him how to manage his anger
When it comes down to the stories, the abuse, the attempted rape, i think Codey, Tryone and Paul hated each other, i think they literally hated each others’ guts.