McArthur Davis
Just pretend for a second that you are a homeless cocaine addict. You just finished the last of the cocaine that you spent your entire Social Security check on. Now, you need more cocaine. What do you do? You’re jobless, and you don’t own anything worth pawning.
You could go get a job, but, that would mean waiting 2 weeks to get your first paycheck. You could go pick up scrap metal for cash, but, you don’t own a vehicle to collect it. You could rob a convenient store, but, you don’t own a gun. You can’t bring back bottles and cans, the only coke you enjoy goes up your nose. So what now? Quit? No, that’s out of the question, you love cocaine too much to do that.
I know you’re not good at pretending you’re a homeless cocaine addict(who is?), so you can stop now. I’ll tell you what an actual homeless cocaine addict did.
McArthur Davis, 44, of Syracuse, New York, the day after leaving a drug and alcohol rehab decided that he would go rob his grandmother at her apartment. The same grandmother that raised him from the age of 4 months old.
McArthur Davis entered the apartment of his 78 year old grandmother, Allean Davis, around 1 to 2 a.m. in December 2007. An unnamed witness said he heard arguing, then a woman screaming, and then absolutely nothing.
McArthur, when inside first argued with Allean. Then, he strangled her until she was unconscious. After this McArthur went into the kitchen to grab a knife. With that knife he stabbed 
Allean in the face, neck, chest and stomach.
After the murder of his own grandmother, McArthur stole Allean’s purse and car.
McArthur was arrested shortly afterwards, and he admitted to the killing. McArthur called what happened a “Terrible, terrible tragedy.” and said “I would never do anything to my grandmother. I loved my grandmother” and blamed it on the drug. He also claims to have no recollection of the event.
Before being sentenced McArthur asked the judge to postpone the sentencing in order to allow him to get married. He claimed that he could not get married previously due to his fiancées medical situation involving a hip injury. The judge refused saying he had never seen a more reprehensible crime in his history as a judge and a lawyer.
Davis began complaining that the Judge was biased against him, and asked to leave the court room before sentencing was read. The Judge insisted that he stay and listen to it, and it was revealed by a jury that McArthur would spend 23 years to life in jail. The following video shows the sentencing as it happened:
Notes:
This is a local story for me. I live in Liverpool NY, and this all happened in Syracuse, 5 minutes or less away from me.
Does McArthur Davis Deserve Hell?
- Yes (96%, 188 Votes)
- No (4%, 8 Votes)
Total Voters: 196
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Ok, so lemme see if I got this right……
She was 24! when she became a grandmother???
She’s 78, he’s 54.
If I am correct, then I think we can pretty much sum this whole thing up with “broken broken family”.
Hmm, that’s incorrect. He’s 44. I’ll fix that right now.
That’s not much better, Max.
I read something years ago that listed the 5 things you could do to practically (statistically) insure a good quality of life – tried to Google it with no luck – but I think I remember them:
1. Finish High School
2. Don’t get married before age 21
3. Have a job (no matter what job) before you get married
4. Don’t have babies out of wedlock
5. Don’t do drugs
Pretty simple, really. And yet, I would wager that the vast majority of people we read about on PYSIH broke every single one of these simple rules.
I fucked up on #4, so i agree that my life could be better, but then again my divorce could have knocked me down further….
Fortunately my out of wedlock baby came when I was 28, so I had the education and a foundation for a career under my belt.
My math – 78-44 = 34 /2 = 17
So each “mother” started at 17 average. Maybe granny was older, so her daughter was younger, so that’s why gramma raised he child. I have a freind who has a child my age (41) and her grand children have children (and the grand children finished high school first) – so who do you think raised the grand children???
I am glad that the judge decided not to let this scum bag marry, but what scares me is the fact that there is something out there that would marry him still walking the streets!
There is a woman here in my town who is my age and a grandma…im 34. And she went on the news and local papers bragging about it. No something id be proud of, but then im not white trash…
Good to know he was spending his social security money on drugs- and it still wasn’t enough that he was getting a free ride, he needed to kill his own Grandmother for more money. Geez. And the part about getting married? Why? So he can have conceive a child in prison and carry on his wonderful genetics? Sick. We need to start drug testing all individuals who receive federal or state assistance. Once you put your hand out to me, I want to know why you need a hand out.
Just wait. The law which is almost certainly going to be passed as one of Obama’s first moves is the “National Freedom of Choice Act”, which pretty much guarantees that the government can’t intrude on abortion rights (which may not be a bad thing) but ALSO guarantees that the government cannot PREVENT a woman from procreating.
Think about it – we already bitch about these women who have their 6 kids taken away, only to squat down and have another – who the authorities can’t touch unless the baby is neglected or abused. Consider that these women are on “the system” and need to keep producing these babies to guarantee their “paycheck”, and we are in a whole lot of shit as a society. And more babies will be hurt, killed, abused and neglected.
One idea that almost everyone here has had is to prevent these women from having more babies. The NFCA will guarantee that no such action is possible.
Keep the “Reverse-Darwinism” going, right on NFCA! I know that in California there is a law with public assitance that the first and second child will qualify a parent for cash aid, but the third will not. So what do these women do? They have a fourth and fifth for more cash aid. We feed them, house them, do everything that their parents should be doing. Meanwhile, the responible individuals who SHOULD be procreating are not. Reverse Darwinism, I tell you.
When I worked for the gas company in Springfield MA back in the 1980′s and 1990′s my dept fell under the strict control of he DOT. Drugs in my system, even if I enjoyed them on MY time (being on call 24/7 I did not have any time that was really mine), could have gotten my fired – as in no job, no money.
That was a GOVERNMENT ruing, not a company ruling.
It’s not like I am asking these people to live at a standard that I have not been held to. Sure I “made” more money – but subtract
1. Taxes
2. Insurance
3. The expenses I had to have a job
and pretty much so they get paid almost as much to do nothing!
Here’s the thing. After all is said and done, most people on government aid end up with more disposable income than most working individuals are lucky to get away with when busting their humps everyday, 9-5. Plenty left for their dope. Do the math here:
1. Housing- 1500.00 apartment for 300.00 with the help of HUD/Section 8, FEDS footing the rest of the bill.Houses are also available for about 600.00 out of their pockets, one that would cost you or I 3000.00 per month. More kids, better digs. In better neighborhoods sometimes than a working person gets to live within.
2. Medical Care- Paid for free and clear, comprehensive care, free prescriptions. Completely FREE! No pre-existing condition discrimination there. They need it, no questions asked, they get it.
3. Cash Aid- Maximum of about 1300.00 per month, tax free in the forms of SSDI, welfare, and cash assitance.
4. Groceries- Free, courtesy of WIC, food stamps. Don’t get me started on what it costs to feed an average family nowadays.
5. Childcare-Programs that cost a non assited individual 800.00 per month can be obtained free of cost to those on government aid-courtesy of the taxpayers.
Now add up what your expenses are in the form of mortgages/rent, insurance, groceries, prescriptions, childcare and it is easy to see
why people continue to abuse the system. It is not going to stop until people are accountable and I agree, Fred, if the government can poke into a working individual’s life and mandate drug testing, why can’t the tax payers ask that of all of those people who benefit from the system which we bust our asses to maintain pee in a cup
every now and then to make sure it is not a drug dependency which is causing them to be non self sufficient. It wouldn’t completely rectify the problems, but it would make poptart1 sleep better at night.
Wow…first of all who was gonna marry a homeless drug addict?! Second poptart1, you took the words rite out of my mouth! Not only was this lazy asshole getting money for nothing, he was blowing it on drugs! Then he wants to try the “it wasn’t me it was the drugs excuse”! What the fuck ever! That poor woman didn’t deserve that, I hate drug addicts!
I would never marry a homeless drug addict. I might give her $5.00 for a blowjob, but I wouldn’t marry her.
LOL
Sorry, Mr. Davis. Even Obama can’t save you from hell.
The new messiah – How dare you speak the truth in the great O’s presence
Don’t you know that the great O defines what is true?!
Drugs are bad mmmmkay.
Poptart, I think it’s a great idea to drug test people who are on social security disability and discontinue their benefits pending the individual completing a rehab program. That makes perfect sense to me. For the record, there’s no such thing as having a “black-out” from cocaine or cocaine withdrawal. He’s full of shit. And who would marry that scum bag?????? You know, to a certain point, I can empathize with the desperation drug addicts must experience when they’re going through withdrawal–but there was absolutely no reason for him to murder his grandmother after he had knocked her out and robbed her. And it doesn’t sound as though he has any remorse for what he did or is willing to accept responsibility for his actions. I think 23 years in jail should give him time for a bit of self-reflection.
What do you mean drug test them? There are people out there whose only disability is drug addiction and we have them on SSI Disability….
Hmmm… Wanna save Social Security some money? Just turn that list over to the DEA… Wait! This means our Social Security Withholding is going to support a drug user, thus we are supporting the drug dealer and in the end the drug lord. Then we pay taxes to have cops arrest these people. This is definitely a huge circle and a conspiracy to steal our tax dollars away from us and give it to the cops and the drug lords…
Obama needs to fix this now….
Yes Mr. Garrison….
What a slimey maggot this guy is. How hard is it to rob an old lady and just leave? Not that I think that that it’s okay to rob an old lady… But it’s better than leaving her dead.
This makes me so sad, I love my grandma. What an asshole, how can you kill the woman who raised you and loved you so much. This is heartbreaking.
I hope he lives that moment in his mind over and over again, I hope it drives him mad with terror. I cant imagine how his grandma felt when she saw the man she raised and loves strangle her. I cant write anything else right now. This is so sad.
Wow, simply wow. What a great guy to blame an addiction for killing Grandma.
I was a meth-head for a lot of years, the entire time I knew that I was still the one making the choice to use. I got into a lot of trouble. I loved, and still do, my family. They love me. During my active use I avoided them like the plague, because I didn’t want them seeing me like that. Now to be sure, I was looking back, and seeing the f’d up things I did to any and all who loved me, while I was locked up. I got clean totally while locked up. It’s been just over 3 years since my last use. Something DesRod said struck me when it was hoped that McArthur lives this over and over in his mind to be terrorized for life. I hope so too, but just watching the sentencing video, and the fact that it looks like he’s doing anything but looking at what he’s done, and still avoiding this terrible act. I don’t have a lot of faith he’s going to be doing any self-examination too soon.
The messed up and, all too often, horrible things that people who use drugs do, cannot be easily repaired, if at all. I didn’t kill anyone, and I didn’t physically beat anyone. I sure broke a lot of hearts, earned thier mistrust, and probably messed up their emotions and minds. Anyone in recovery knows that there are precious few who actively seek to change. Mind you, I’m no saint, but I’m not getting the warm feeling that McArthur is one of those who want to change.
Yes, the judge was biased. Against grandma killers, anyways. 9 out of 10 doctors agree that killing the woman who loved and raised you so you can screw yourself with cocaine is reprehensible. And the last doctor is still in jail. Do I really have to pay to keep guys like this alive?
Hi, by the way. I’ve been starting out my morning with PYSIH for a while and finally decided to drop a comment today. ::waves::
lol on the 9 out of 10.. Hi there
Fred, I was thinking the same thing. It isn’t much better, when if you think about it, both the grandmother and his mother were both probably teens when they had their kids. Again, it is no big surprise that this is the kind of man that came out this kind of family. Morals people, teach ‘em to your kids. Geesh.
Can I pretend I’m a homeless Gummy Bear Addict? It’s more realistic for me….
mmmm… gummy bears…
I love it,,, this POS gets a SS check to get DRUGS, but I will never see one when I am eldery…
fry him!
“Just pretend for a second that you are a homeless cocaine addict. You just finished the last of the cocaine that you spent your entire Social Security check on. Now, you need more cocaine. What do you do? You’re jobless, and you don’t own anything worth pawning.”
First thing that popped into my head was not “Kill Grandma” but the far less destructive, “Suck cocks.” I wish that thought occurred to to more of those in the greed category on this site. (Except, of course, the greedy pedophiles, because a kid’s allowance just won’t buy much cocaine, so it’s really a matter of diminishing returns.)
Luckily, Davis will spend the next 23 years learning all about sucking cock (et cetera) so if the situation should arise again, he’ll know the proper course of action to take if and when he needs money for drugs.
Mia… I figured you would of said find a rich old man & marry him… How about a poor middle aged man… I can’t get you any cocaine but I promise you an unlimited supply of gummy bears….
Generally though, rich old men don’t go for the cocaine users. The cocaine use has to start *after* he’s trapped with his trophy wife.
And as long as the gummy bears aren’t pineapple flavored. Not only are they a funky taste (although I like real pineapple), they’re clear. Amongst all the other jovial gummy bears, the only thing I can think is that pineapple gummy bears are obviously the ghosts of the other gummy bears.
So every bag that contains pineapple gummy bears also contains a gummy bear homicidal maniac I guess. We should be seeing it here soon . . .
I’ll happily clear out all the clear gummy bears for you Mia… :))
Aww, thank you. Damn ghost bears can’t be good for the spiritual intestines.
wtf? i’ll never look at a bag of gummy bears the same way again. it’s not because pineapple ones are clear (i agree they are nasty) but because there’s homicidal maniac bears included in the bag, and i suspect they would be the red ones, which are my favorite.
disturbing.
Eternal – I burst out laughing because I just realized the red ones are covered with blood, obviously. I don’t think I’m ever eating gummy bears again . . . who knows what issues the other ones have. (Yellow – jaundice? Orange – liver failure? Green . . . slime mold? Okay, that one was a stretch.)
But after all this, gummy bears should now officially be called Pathology Chews.
I know this is a sad situation, but the sucking cocks for cocaine bit was hilarious.
And btw, I agree that he should fry. Crackhead or not, robbing or killing someone is not the way to make a quick buck. Swallow your pride and get a job at Wal-Mart or McDonald’s, lowlife!
AAAhhh…im all excited!!! Just got a phone call and my sister has gone into labour. Gosh im glad its not me!!! LOL.
Congratz! I hope it goes quick for her =)
i wish my sister would go into labor. she was 2 cm dilated at her dr’s visit last week. but my niece won’t come out.
congrats, amy (and amy’s sister). lol
She had a little girl and named her Stevie Rose. Any remaining maternal instinct to reproduce i had, went out the window when i was listening to her cry and moan while in labour.
Congratz Aunt Amy =)) Stevie Rose is cute. My daughter is Jennifer Rose, named for her great-great grandmother Jenny Rose.
Blessing to you all.
Amy, I just have to say this . . . your sister went into labor and you came here to notify the crowd at People You’ll See in Hell – that’s AWESOME.
Congrats on your Auntiehood.
LOL…well id already told everyone else and still hadnt gotten the “MY SISTER HAD A BABY” thing out of my system yet. Its her fourth girl. And to Mazzi…my youngest daughter is Georgia-Rose. I love the name Rose, its so pretty.
Amy – as Mia pointed out – you may not want to mention to your sister that you notified a board full of people who dissect twisted motherfuckers for sport. At least don’t say anything till her hormones are back to normal – which is what? Like 20 years after the baby is born? I’m still waiting =P.
What the hell is that thing on his chin? What a poor example of facial hair.
Wowwww… I’ve seen the rage of a cocaine addict, and after it put a hole in my wall and tried to kick in my bedroom door, to put a hole in me, i realized that it wasn’t such a good idea to let it continue. It can be mighty terrifying.
Drugs are bad… mmmmmmmmmmkay?
LMAO Mia I can’t stop laughing at your gummy bear theory =)
It’s something I think about every time I have gummy bears now. I’m always looking at the other bears all squinty-eyed. Don’t even get me started on those gummy worms that are half-clear, half-something-else. They’re like zombies. Not alive, not dead . . . just in between and in need of gummy braaaaaaains.
Okay, I’m getting pathological about the gummy creatures now . . .
gummy braaaaaaains…….rotflmao!
You are brilliant Mia. You have to write a story for us…please!
Are there writing guidelines anywhere? I could get off my ass and find them myself, but I just started classes this week (7:30 am and I’m training myself to watch the news first, so my day starts at 4:50 am) and I’m taking 15 units (12 of them in criminal justice) – whine, whimper, bitch, LOL – so right now I’m like, “Pleh. Docs?”
How do the other writers find their stories? Stumble across a headline and do some research?”
Thank you very much for the complement. I actually write fiction with an eye towards getting published one of these days, and writing for PYSiH would be an honor indeed.
I tend to just keep an eye out for local stories myself as they hit closer to home for me… Plus, being out of the country at the moment it let’s me feel like I’m still contributing to my home town while I’m up here…
I’m usually kind of oblivious when it comes to local crime (though not anymore with this major, LOL.) The cases that get to me are old. The first one that ever really got under my skin was Elizabeth Short (the Black Dahlia – and then my favorite actress went and played her in the movie.) Mary Kelly (the Ripper’s last victim) also really got to me. Both of these cases were the first crime scene pictures I’d ever seen, and probably what sparked my interest in crime. Note that both cases are unsolved, and probably won’t ever be solved. There’s no one to sent to Hell, and those are the cases that really haunt me.
Oh course, I’ll keep my eyes open and my ear to the ground. This summer though I’m going to try and get an internship in the DA’s office, so writing up local stories might not be in my best interest at that point.
I don’t understand why he only received a 23 yr sentence?
Personally, I think you should add more years for killing someone who had some love for you.
He didn’t say she was abusive to him or anything and it seems to me he may have gotten more time if he would have murdered a stranger.
Perfect for a Marilyn Manson que…
“I don’t like the drugs but the drugs like me…”
Om nom nom. I loves me some glam-era Marilyn Manson.
U b gottin cancer? u b gottin aids? u be gottin big bills u caint b a pa’in? u b gotin a std? jus git on down to dc an urkel will be a curin!
I’m not happy that Obama is our president either, but, he is our president now and we can’t change that.
Lets just sit back and see what he can do.
Obama has a 76% approval rating with the French. We can rest easy now.
Yes, we can all rest easier now that the wisdom of the French have shown us that Obama is the right choice… And what was the last thing the French influenced?
What’s with the USA’s dislike of the French, I mean just because they disagreed with you guys on invading Iraq (and we saw which one was right in the end) you guys always put them down yet look at the worlds view of the US. Most hated country in the world (with good reason) with the most evil foreign policies. The list of crimes perpetrated by the US against other countries is way too long to list. You may not like Obama being president (landslide victory so I guess you are in the minority anyway) but from a world view, he’s the only way at the moment for the US to regain credability and trust regarding the rest of the worlds opinion of you. The world is so much bigger than the borders of the USA. It’s time you realised that and started thinking like it.
Americans dislike French people because they talk a lot of shit about America, I had friends who went to France and were jumped just because they were American.
France has it coming to them just like us Americans do.
That’s right FunkDupp. Believe me, between the French and us, the feeling is mutual. They see us as war mongers, and we see them as ungrateful pussies. All you have to do is see a few pictures of that cemetery at Normandy and the thousands of Americans who gave their lives helping to liberate France for the SECOND time and you can see why Americans feel the way they do. I’m no expert on Foreign relations of history, so I can’t see where the roots of France’s feelings about us come from. Anyone out there know what the deal is?
Now let me think here… What would of been the easiest way to teach a French Man German… hmmm…..
I got it… Had the US not intervened in a World War or II…. It seems to me that other countries like Great Britain & France wrote the book a few hundred years ago on exploiting foreign nations, the America’s… Africa… And now that they no longer hold the power they used to hold due to their inability to nurture the countries they conquered, though they we’re great at continuously plundering those countries through the act of Slavery (and don’t start on the US about slavery, we ended it, the Brits started it)… Stripping these lands of their natural resources and returning nothing in exchange for what they took…
Now today, we have the United States which has stripped herself in an effort to help other countries, turning over todays most precious resource, jobs, to less fortunate countries in hopes of helping them build an infrastructure and realize socio-economic stability… The United States could fix her economic problems almost every night, the solution is simple and well known within the borders… It’s a short but sweet little document known as The Monroe Doctrine….
For those of you not familiar with the Monroe Doctrine, it was upheld until World War I when the US realized it could no longer ignore issues that happened within the Eastern Hemisphere… But in short it stated, you mind your business and we’ll mind ours… The US refused to enter any issue that involved what was then known as the Old World, meaning Europe, Asia & Africa could fight as they wanted as long as they did not interfere with The Americas… This meant the United States, Canada, Mexico, Central America and South America (sorry, to many countries in the Southern Hemisphere to list them all)…
Now how could this fix the problems The United States faces today? It would actually change them in many ways… First note that the United States of America is the largest consumer of manufactured goods and pay attention… As the largest consumer of manufactured goods you might think that the United States needs other countries to maintain it’s standard of living, this is where your wrong. If the United States were to return to a revised Monroe Doctrine and pull all troops and ships home to guard our borders (land and sea) it would become the most secure border in the world. Next, pull all the jobs home. This means empty the factories US companies & the US Gov’t has built in all foreign countries of equipment and just leave the shells and ship it back to the United States… Outfit the shuttered factories that are inside the United States and re-open them for production, wave off corporate taxes (the income taxes are worth far more than the Corporate taxes are worth) and refuse to import or export anything…
Now imagine this for a moment… Canada owns no major companies, outside of Plentyoffish.com, the middle east has no where to sell it’s oil (don’t worry, the US has a large reserve already pumped and a larger supply drilled and capped within her borders)… Countries such as Japan, India, China, Vietnam, Korea, Mexico and your beloved Middle East will suddenly have some major economic problems… It’s called unemployment…
With no one around to purchase the goods from the countries that are currently mass producing goods these countries will be forced to find another venue to support themselves, as income & corporate taxes disappear overnight… The Middle East will be forced to cut Oil production to less than 1/2 of what it currently has it set at and will triple the cost of oil to nations that continue to purchase from them in an effort to maintain their standard of living (which they have done in the past and will do again in the future)…
Nations like Canada, that have a monstrous production of crude oil with little or no refining capabilities (currently Canada like to export crude to the US for refining and import it back in the form of Gasoline & Diesel) will suddenly have a huge stockpile of useless oil until they find another country (which will be overseas and a significant cost increase over the current pipeline they use for export now) to refine this oil and import it back to them now…
As far as the United States goes when it comes to countries we have invaded, name one time the United States has invaded without provocation from the country being invaded. Before you start screaming Iraq, you better look again. Iraq has a history of supporting terrorist such as the taliban and al queida (sic), it has a history of agression towards other nations and in threatening the United States. One of the major deciding factors for the US to invade was sattelite surveillance showing potential WMD’s…. While the WMD’s were not found, those locations did reveal mass graves of Kurds who had been executed at the hands of the Iraqi Military’s leader, Saddam Hussein. Genocide is genocide, whether it’s against the Jews or the Kurds, it wrong and must be addressed.
So, before those who are outside the US borders begin to cast stones, take a good hard look around you, envision your life without the public assistancee of the US sending jobs to your county, without the US purchasing goods from your country, imagine a UN that has none of the financial or military backing of the United States (larges & strongest military force on the planet)… Are you prepared to watch the United States close her borders even tighter than China had hers? Are you prepared for the fallout this will produce, before you answer look very closely and think very hard…
As a side note to this post… I was up in Canada this past summer, talking to a woman who worked at a Tim Horton’s (coffee shop)… When she realized I’m an American, she became incredibly hostile… I asked her why? She stated very clearly and specifically, because the US had discontinued the Monte Carlo and was going to build the Camaro at the plant she used to work at and had gotten laid off… Now, let me get this straight…
A US Company known as General Motors, sends jobs to your country (jobs you would not of had without them) and your upset because they choose to reduce the workforce in your nation instead of cutting jobs in the United States? This mindset is exactly the type of ignorance that is displayed world wide about the United States… We send you jobs and then when economic times are tough and we pull some of those jobs back home you get pissy with us… Just remember, they are our jobs, our factories and our dollars… We can do with them as we please…
Hell to anyone that kills a grandma….especially their own.
Oh, I just found out from my mom that she works with the neice of Allean Davis. She knew about this all before it hit the news.
And she didn’t come here and tell us? This is so worng.
“Cocaine’s a helluva drug.”
– Rick James
Fred, I was thinking the same thing. It isn’t much better, when if you think about it, both the grandmother and his mother were both probably teens when they had their kids. Again, it is no big surprise that this is the kind of man that came out this kind of family. Morals people, teach ‘em to your kids. Geesh.
I take such offense to this comment. I for one was only a teen when my son was born and have friends that were as well and our children all have morals. Just because you have a child young does not mean that you came from “that kind of family”. Everyone has sex as teenagers and only some of us get caught. I love my son as well as my friends love their children but we are all hardworking people that provide for our children and don’t leech off of the system. It is about pride. It has nothing to do with being a teenage mom. Loving parents who had their children later in life may still have raised the next serial killer.
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My aunt has a 3 carat solitaire and its huge. That thing looks at least twice the size of hers. A 5 or 6 carat ring might be more than a million dollars. Especially at tiffany’s. Maybe she’s messing with you.