Jodi Ann Arias
This is 28-year-old Jodi Arias. On Her MySpace page, she describes herself as, among other things, tolerant, kind, compassionate and loving.
Travis Alexander (His MySpace), 30, her ex-boyfriend, was a motivational speaker. Travis was a very confident guy – his nickname for himself was T-Dog, for Top-Dog – but also professed to be into things like helping the homeless and saving the environment.
Travis was found dead in his shower on June 9, 2008. He was stabbed 27 or 28 times in the head, neck and torso. He was also shot in the head.
One of the most striking details that investigators noticed was that his throat had been slashed from ear to ear. His body had also been rinsed off in the shower. According to an autopsy report, Alexander’s cause of death was sharp force trauma to his neck and head.
Alexander’s cell phone was found in the downstairs office, with the last call made at 12:13 p.m. June 4. All calls after that went unanswered, including an important conference call he was scheduled to take part in. From that they were able to set his approximate time of death.
The last few moments of Travis Alexander’s life – before he was shot in the head and stabbed to death – were captured on the memory card of his own digital camera.
Although it had been run through the wash and nearly destroyed, the memory card’s eight snapshots told the story for Mesa, Arizona, police investigators of the final hours of the 30-year-old motivational speaker’s life.
There were pictures of his ex-girlfriend, Jodi Arias, lying naked on Alexander’s bed. There were also naked pictures of him posing in the shower. Oh, and there were two pictures of a person on the floor of the bathroom, bleeding heavily. I wonder who that could have been?
And best of all, each picture was electronically stamped with the time and date it was taken – June 4th, 2008. Lead Homicide Detective Esteban Flores said there were only minutes difference between the time the pictures of Travis were taken and the pictures of his dead body were taken.
Alexander’s body was found about five days after the photos were taken. His two roommates told police that they believed he had gone on a vacation to Mexico. They had been living in the apartment, unaware that his body lie locked in his room. A distinct odor coming from behind the locked door betrayed its location.
Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander had dated for a short time, and Jodi had even lived with Alexander for a few months, but the relationship ended because Jodi wanted to get married and Travis, a confirmed bachelor, was NOT interested.
After interviewing Alexander’s relatives and friends, investigators learned how Jodi Arias had stalked Travis.
Travis Alexander’s good friends, Chris and Sky Hughes, described their concerns about Jodi Arias:
“Whenever he came in town, he would stay at our house,” says Sky. “They would hang out. And we’d all go out to dinner and stuff.”
At first, everything was great. But as Sky began to spend more time with Jodi and Travis together, she realized that Jodi might be coming on too strong and too quick.
Sky says, “She was glued to him. If he moved [or] shifted, she shifted.” Chris describes Jodi’s expressions of affection in front of them as “a bit inappropriate.”
“Like, sucking on his ear, kissing his neck…” adds Sky. “Travis was not as into her as she was into him, and so she would come to me with her concerns.”But the more questions Jodi had about Travis, the more questions Sky Hughes began to have about Jodi.
“[Sky] said, ‘I’m really uncomfortable with Jodi,” says Chris. “Something’s not right.
During one of their weekends together, after Jodi Arias had gone to bed, the Chris and Sky Hughes took Travis Alexander aside to express their concerns.
“We were just cautioning him and that went on for, what, an hour-and-a-half, two hours,” says Chris. “And then I just said, I’m like, ‘She’s out there listening,’” adds Sky. “She’s out there.”
At that moment, the couple says there was knock on the door. It was Jodi and she was not very happy about what she had apparently overheard.
“What really scared us was the look in her eye,” says Chris. “I mean, it shook me at my core. It was just this scary — almost an evil look in her eye that I’ve never seen before, or since.”
Chris says that one look was all he and Sky needed to lay down the law. “We made it very clear to Travis that if you continue with this relationship, you’re gonna have to do it at a distance from us,” he says. “Because she ain’t coming around our kids, she’s not coming around our house. This is not gonna be your meeting ground anymore.”
Once they broke off their relationship, Jodi would continue to hang around the house and even enter Travis’ home without his permission,” Arias’ arrest report says. “Jodi was described as 
being completely obsessed with Travis, by his family and his closest friends.”
Something I noticed while looking at Jodi’s MySpace page – she seems to admire a lot of the same people Travis did. it’s creepy, really, when you think about why SHE would want to meet a guy like Tony Robbins. Travis, a motivational speaker himself, yes, but Jodi? Check it out for yourself and see what I mean.
When police examined Alexander’s body, they found that his injuries showed that he tried to put up a fight. Investigators also noticed a shell casing in the bathroom, but no gun. When detectives took a closer look at Alexander’s bedroom, they discovered that his bedding was missing.
The blankets were later discovered downstairs in the laundry room, along with clothing and the camera. The bedding had been washed and was found in the dryer, the report shows.
Arias said she and Alexander dated from Feb. 2, 2007, until late June 2007 and that she broke up with him on June 29 and moved to California in April 2008. She says neither of them was interested in marriage, so she moved away to put some distance between them.
That’s not exactly true. She actually moved to California to follow Travis there when he had to relocate for a time. When he returned to Arizona, Jodi remained in California.
Police called Arias on June 10th, 2008 for an interview. She said she hadn’t seen Alexander since April, but admitted that they had been in a relationship and broke up due to jealousy issues they both had. She said that after the breakup, the pair continued a sexual relationship but kept it quiet from the people they knew, and that they had last spoken on the phone on June 3.
“Even after we broke up, we continued to be a little more than friends, but we tried to keep it a little clandestine,” Arias said.
Arias declined to discuss all the reasons police believe she killed Alexander, but said that while investigators’ evidence is “compelling enough,” it is purely “speculation.”
“None of it is solid proof that I committed a murder,” Arias said.
Arias said detectives told her that they found her DNA inside Alexander’s home, but said that her DNA “could’ve been found there just as easily as (Alexander’s)” since she spent a lot of time over there.
On June 17, Arias came to the Mesa Police Department and voluntarily gave fingerprints and saliva for DNA testing, according to Arias’ arrest report. Two days later, police uncovered the nude pictures and said they were able to “prove” that Arias was the last person to see Alexander before he died.
Arias again denied seeing Alexander. She said she left her home in Northern California on June 3 to drive to Salt Lake City for a conference. She said she was alone on the trip, which took more than two days, and was not in contact with anyone for 20 hours because her cell phone had run out of power.
She said that she reached Salt Lake City on June 5, participated in the last day of the conference and headed home.
June 5 was one day after the camera shows Arias nude on Alexander’s bed.
Finally, detectives examined the bloody palm print found on Alexander’s wall and said that it was shown to be Arias’ left palm and contained her DNA.
“This was conclusive evidence that Jodi was present at the time of Travis’ death, or at least at the time of his initial injury,” the arrest report says.
Chris Hughes has a theory about why Jodi killed Travis, and I like his logic. see what you think:
“We’d won a trip to Cancun. It’s all expenses paid,” says Chris. “He had asked another gal that he’d been seeing if she would go with him and she had agreed.”
They were scheduled to leave on that trip just days after Jodi’s visit; a fact that Chris believes may have pushed Jodi to extremes.
“I can see Travis being Travis and saying, ‘Look, you wanna show up at my house in the middle of the night and do this? Fine. But you’re not my girlfriend. I’ve made that clear. You’re never gonna be my girlfriend and I’m not taking you to Mexico. And I’m taking so and so to Mexico.’ And– wrong answer,” he says.
Jodi Arias has a different explanation for the murder. She has changed her story completely and now claims she was there, and that two men and a woman, all dressed in black from head to toe, broke into the apartment and killed Travis Alexander:
“They were both taller than me. They were covered — their hands, their gloves — they had long-sleeved shirts on. They were in all black. He was wearing jeans. But they all — they had ski masks on. I think they were there to kill him, because they didn’t take anything. To my knowledge, there was nothing missing from the house.”
But her account of her miraculous escape from death is, well, miraculous:
“He pulled the trigger. And nothing happened with the gun. And so, I just grabbed my purse, which was on the floor at that point, and I ran down the stairs and out of there and I left [Travis] there. …I pushed past him and – and his gun. And I just didn’t look back.”
It was an unbelievable getaway. Jodi jumped into her car and drove away with no one following her.
Jodi Arias was booked for 1st Degree Murder, Premeditated, charges at the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Department jail, Friday, September 5th, 2008.
In an Aug. 29 jail interview with Arias, she denied killing Alexander and said that she is “very calm” and knows she is innocent.
Jodi Arias pleaded not guilty and is now incarcerated at the Estrella Jail in Phoenix, Arizona, awaiting her trial, which is scheduled to begin in February of 2010 (View Case Records).
Editor’s Note: Pretty arrogant, isn’t she?
The second mugshot I published of Jodi Arias tells us alot about her personality. Ah, Jodi, you’re in prison dear, you’re not posing for a high school yearbook picture. Jesus, what a piece of work. One website I visited, Courthouse Steps Mavens, called this photograph her “smugshot”.
This article has been sitting, unfinished, in the “Drafts” section of our website for almost a year. I hope admin doesn’t mind, but in my opinion it was just too good to go to waste, so I decided finish it, add the pictures, links and video and publish it. I signed off on it under my name because it doesn’t really resemble anything admin would do anymore – it’s just not up to his standards.
CLARIFICATION
Some of you have a question about the time and date stamp on the photos referred to in the story. The time stamp the police are talking about has nothing to do with the date and time you set yourself on a camera. Most people don’t know this, but there’s an internal clock inside the computer chip that controls the camera. It’s set at the factory and can’t be reset by the consumer – that’s the clock that stamped the date and time on the pictures in Travis’ camera. Sometimes I forget that not everyone has a head full of generally useless knowledge like I do.
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Psycho! What a freak!
What a psycho!!! She shot him in the face first. He was still alive. She then went on to stab him reputedly and then finish with slitting his throat. She was trying to sex him into letting her go on the free trip he had, but he was taking his girlfriend, she snapped and said, “Hell No!” then shot him. What kind of a sick pig would have sex with the guy, then 2 minutes later, kill him, the proceed to go on a date with another man and never tell anyone he was dead. She smiles and is happy through the whole thing, I hope she dies! She better get the chair. I say people should get killed the same way they killed their prey.
I cannot believe her fake story 3 days later about a man and a woman in masks and gloves in black killed him, but did not chase her? And they stole nothing. If there were other killers who killed him, would chased her and shot her, she would had never gotten away, as he was already incapacitated. She did it and has no remorse. I say hang her and let us bludgeon her to death with rocks. Sick scumbag. Sure she is hotter than hell, but psycho. The crazy ones are usually hot, so to live longer….. date an ugly girl guys!
I hope Travis is at peace. And that he knows our hearts are with him. People accuse him of being a player, well she was, too. After he took another girlfriend, she still had sex with him knowing of the other girl. She is a whore, trying marry someone to support her. Well now our government dollars are supporting her. I hope my taxes buy the gas they pump into her. I will now step off of my soap box!
Peace to all.
Lonnie, I have a bunch of issues with your post. First – you say that she shot him in the face first, but there are conflicting reports about that. As far as I know, the autopsy report has not been released. Where did this information come from?
Second, you seem to have taken a lot of liberty in stating why she decided to kill him. You didn’t present it as a theory or as a possible scenario, but rather as if it was fact. It MAY have played out like that, but maybe not. Assuming that she was not that close to him anymore, but just used him as a fuckbuddy, how would she have known about the trip? It seems to me that a guy who has a stalker ex would probably NOT tell her, especially if he wanted to get laid.
Third who says she is hot? I think she is rather homely. She seems to have a nice figure, and nice hair, but her face is rather unattractive. That’s from a woman’s perspective though – men may see something else. Clearly SHE thinks she is hot, but I don’t see it.
Fourth, this is petty, but you say that she should die in the chair, then you say immediately afterwards she should did as he did – that would mean stabbed, shot and bled out. But whatever.
Fifth, you say that she was a whore and was trying to find someone to support her. What is that based on? From her myspace, it sounds as if she was financially comfortable, and enjoyed her job. Not every woman is lazy and looking for a free ride. Many of us like to work, especially if we have a career. She may have wanted to get married, but not necessarily to sponge off the guy.
I have no problem with you having the opinion that you do. But since there is no smoking gun, no confession, no videotape or eyewitness accounts in this case, the responsible thing to do is to make it clear that your “facts” and theories are just opinion.
Someone who is just browsing might read what you wrote and assume that your contention that Travis was shot in the face first came from official reports, and base their own opinion on that. This is how tainted juries come to be.
Mazzi- yeah. Sometimes women just really want to have sex with a guy. Women are human too. I’ve been guilty of that, though they’ve always ended up being boyfriends, and I never killed any of them.
Yes, women can be whores- but men can be whores as well. Doesn’t really matter unless one of those whores gets stabby.
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Man, watch the 48 Hrs video: the detective in charge literally says that she shot him in the face first.
Ummmm.. yeah. That was posted further down the thread.
I accept that Travis was shot first. But, it kind of bothers me that people are watching a TV show and stating the information as fact. The detective is under no obligation to be stating fact vs. opinion. I guarantee you that statement would not even be allowed in court, because the detective DOESN’T KNOW firsthand. The TV show likewise has no obligation to present only factual information (which is how Nancy Grace stays in business). Their obligation is to make money for their shareholders, by presenting shows that people want to watch.
The cop may well be right, but it’s not evidence. It is still just opinion. If he stated that “the medical examiner determined that Travis had been shot first” it would hold more weight (but still would not be admissible in a court).
Cops and prosecutors have statistics on their side. And when a case falls within those statistics (as they usually do), they can confidently say something and it will usually be true. But when a case falls outside the statistics, they need to twist the facts to fit what they think happened. And that’s when trouble happens.
A perfect example of this was the OJ case. The cops were SURE that OJ had killed his ex, so they “padded” the evidence. Unfortunately, the only evidence they HAD was the “padding”. That blew the case. They guessed wrong. While OJ most probably had a hand in killing his ex, he didn’t do it the way that the authorities thought, and thus they couldn’t get a conviction.
All that said, I don’t have a distrust of the authorities. I believe that their intentions are good, and that they truly believe what they believe. And 90% of the time, they are right. But it’s those few cases where they are wrong that bother me.
Anyway, I will still sit on this one, until official evidence is offered.
WELL, WELL, WELL…ISN’T KARMA A BITCH, HUH JODI?
She began her relationship with Travis Feb 2…her Trial Date: Feb 2, 2010! Poor Travis, he had no idea that the day he met Jodi, he actually met death.
I need more information… I can buy that she is a jilted stalker, and that she thinks her looks will get her off, but I do have issues with a woman stabbing a man, who is defending himself. She doesn’t look like a big girl. Also, her alibi might be solid if she can produce records and receipts.
So, no vote yet. I’ll look into it later and see if there is any more info to be had.
She can’t Maz, and she’s lying – Jodi Arias is slick as pig shit, but I have no doubt in my mind she’s guilty. The bloody palm print had her DNA mixed in, and the pictures of her with Travis were dated on June 5th, the same day she says she was out of town on that business trip.
This is another one of those cases where everyone is lying but the suspect (if you believe Jodi). Travis’s friends say he wasn’t that serious about Jodi, but she was under the delusion that they were an exclusive couple and he was going to marry her. Of course, that’s not what she’s saying now.
I tweaked the story a little to make things a little clearer – if I’m not getting my point across to you Maz I must have did a lousy job with my argument.
No no Max, your story is clear and well written.
Her myspace seems to be indicative of someone who really has no self-identity. That could definitely suggest some sort of serious mental trouble, including the kind that would flip out at rejection.
The story about the masked intruders seems far fetched, especially since she never stopped to report it, but one thing that rings true is that neck wound. If Travis was somehow mixed up with drugs, that is a “signature” wound. It’s not exactly what one would expect from a pissed off girlfriend. The POG’s tend to stab them in the face (the eyes), the heart and the genitals, and then they tend to cover them up with a blanket or something. The way the body was found sounds too impersonal. The showering off also seems more “professional” and less personal. Now, none of the stories suggest that he was into drugs, and he seemed religious, but with his level of self esteem (almost borderline narcissism from his myspace) it might not be that huge of a stretch. One of the biggest coke-heads I ever knew worked in the Reagan White House and sat in church every Sunday. So nothing would surprise me.
This is a case where I would want to be in the courtroom and see/hear the evidence to make a decision. It seems like it could go either way. But the girl definitely has some serious issues regardless.
As a matter of fact, I myself have “some sort of serious mental trouble, including the kind that would flip out at rejection” (I think I know what you had in mind); however I never stalked anyone, I never killed anyone (I never did anything more illegal than jaywalking, actually), and I most definitely do not belong to hell.
Should this chick belong to hell, it would be because she (probably) killed someone, not because she’s (probably) mentally ill “(“a psycho”, “a freak” as others put it), which she did not cause and cannot change.
The fact that she probably has a mental disorder is not a direct issue. It is only relevant in the weighing of whether she was capable of committing the crime. Whoever killed this guy has to have some kind of mental disorder.
As far as I know, no one here would ever suggest that people with psychiatric disorders should go to hell, unless they are criminals.
Not for nothing, but my daughter’s friend’s camera has the wrong date on it. I don’t think they know how to set it.
I thought about that as well, but if the date was wrong, it would have remained wrong. So if it said (for example) Tuesday when it was actually Thursday, all the pictures taken on Thursday would have Tuesday’s date.
There might have been reasonable doubt if her defense was “we had sex and then I left – whoever took the final pictures must have come in afterwards”, but she claims she was there and knows that she left him for dead. That leaves a HUGE problem. It explains the bloody palm print, but it doesn’t explain why she never called the cops and just scooted off on her merry way after he was dead.
I am not a big fan of making decisions based on “reasonable behavior” since everyone handles trauma in their own way, but her story is just way beyond the bounds of sensibility. It is inconceivable that she would not have (at minimum) made an anonymous call to the cops once she got away.
I am still open to the idea that she is not guilty, but I honestly would say I am leaning towards guilty.
Also she has pictures of him plastered all over her myspace he does not have a single picture of her on his. She uploaded a “memorial” album right after his death. Who does that especially if you’re there when someone is killed? she converted to his religion and they olnly “dated” for a a couple months. She has every book he said he liked up loaded to her myspace & her “company” is the one he worked for… I mean this is psycho stalker. You would have to be nuts to keep the composure she keeps and that fucked up smirk on her. This woman is guilty
“…but I do have issues with a woman stabbing a man, who is defending himself. She doesn’t look like a big girl.”
Sorry… but… I’m 5′1″ 125 lbs. My husband is 6′4″ 250 lbs. If I came at him in the shower, unexpectedly, with a fat-ass knife in hand, I could certainly get a disabling stab or two in his neck before he had any chance to react. Lack of size can be overcome with a combination of a good weapon, determination and surprise. And who would expect a stab in shower after sex… unless they had just watched Psycho? That said… Happy Dad’s Day, Greg — I love you!
I think that if the adrenaline is pumping a small woman can certainly hurt a big guy. But I think that would be more defensive than offensive (as in preventing a rape, or retaliation for violence). Unless she was insanely pissed about something.
Does anyone know if the roommates were IN the house when the murder was supposed to have happened?
“Unless she was insanely pissed about something.”
You know, when you’ve been married for more than 22 years… just the other person breathing in and out can, occasionally, push all the wrong buttons in you! ha ha! That’s when you exercise a little self-control and stay away from sharp objects and untraceable poisons.
But seriously, my point is… you can’t discredit the possibility that Jodi killed Alexander with a knife, just because she’s considerably smaller than him.
I wasn’t discrediting it. I am absolutely on the fence about this case, and that was just one thing that weighs more into the “not as likely” side.
His Myspace says: “Do I work out you ask? Well I’d like to be modest, but can you say Tri-athelete, and if you can’t say that well simply say 16 1/2 inch biceps.” That doesn’t sound like he would not be able to wrestle a knife from a weaker woman. She might get a stab or two in, but unless it was a lucky hit and he went down immediately, HIS adrenaline would kick in, and I don’t think she would get too far after that.
On the other hand, there was a gunshot to the head as well. I thought that maybe she shot him first, then stabbed him while he was incapacitated. But no – the story says that he tried to put up a fight.
So, here we have an athlete, a former wrestler (per his Myspace), putting up a fight against his killer… shouldn’t she have been seriously fucked up? I mean, bloody and bruised and cut – to the point that whoever saw her in SLC would have noticed?
Like I said, I can’t make up my mind. The only other thing I can think of that makes some sense is if she hired someone to kill him and was there when it happened, but nothing indicates that. And, would a woman who was hiring a killer actually want to see it happen? Strange all around.
Mazzi is one of the few folks around here who’s opinion really makes me think. You can bet she didn’t come up with her opinions about this story on a without putting a lot of thought into it. I most certainly understand her position, and although I’m pretty sure Jodi Arias is a bald faced liar and a murderer, I couldn’t rule out any of the scenarios Maz has put out there, and neither can anyone else.
I have been fascinated with this story since I first heard about it a year ago. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more coverage, but if I’m not mistaken, it was overshadowed by the Caylee Anthony story. There was some special on this case, and they said that she had actually gone to SLC to visit another man she was talking to, and she had bandages on her hand. When he asked what happened, she told him that she was a bartender and she cut herself at work.
Another interesting fact, when she was finally charged and arrested, she asked the police if she could put on her make-up before she was taken in. No wonder her smugshot looks so good.
Ok, I’m going to go out on a limb and say this :
I am 5′2 inches tall. This in no way makes me weak. My husband and I have an ongoing joke about killing each other. Sick, I know. So if I say something he might say “Then I kills you” and I say “Well you couldn’t kill me… (or) what if I kill you first?” After which he inevitably says “You can’t kill me”.
Ahem. People who are not expecting an attack will not protect themselves adequately against a well placed killing blow. Say after she and her boy toy got done with the sex he goes to wash off… he’s expecting kisses not a knife to the chest. After a couple of “omg what are you doing” seconds and extra stabbings, I would guess the blood loss would rapidly make one weaker, despite any adrenaline. A stabbing or beating death indicates rage. Which she might have had plenty. Is it too hard to imagine that he wasn’t expecting a knife fight, even if they weren’t getting along?
Also I’m not sure about the specifics, but 16 inch biceps built at the gym aren’t exactly combat ready….
And yes, generally speaking people who kill with knives do get cut up… their hands slip on the knife and they slice their hands. As for bruises… as evidenced by abused women over the years, bruises can be artfully hidden with clothing, makeup and any number of tricks.
I wouldn’t discount the killing power of an angry woman.
” I do have issues with a woman stabbing a man, who is defending himself. She doesn’t look like a big girl.”
The element of surprise can be a motherfrigger. I’m not usually expecting the person I just had sex with to come at me with multiple weapons while I’m humming to myself in the shower. I would be caught off guard, and probably unable to defend myself in the same way I would if I’d seen the attack coming.
Just a thought…
Okay, so I’m a little confused. It first says, “Travis was found dead in his shower” but then it goes on to talk about his roommates, “They had been living in the apartment, unaware that his body lie locked in his room.”
Perhaps he had his own bathroom connected to his room? Like a masterbedroom usually has?
That would be my guess too. It’s very common for upscale houses to have a bathroom in every bedroom.
His bedroom was the only room on the 2nd level.. He had his own bathroom.. And from what i’ve learned, the people who rented rooms from him weren’t close or comfortable enough to just walk into his room.. It wasn’t until they hadn’t heard or seen anything from him in days, that they found his bedroom door locked and made their way inside.
The picture of them in the water is like a foreshadowing…..for one, they’re in water (like a shower), and two she has her hands wrapped around his throat like she’s going to strangle him. Creepy. All that was missing I suppose, is a bunny boiling on the stove…….
Or maybe she’s getting ready for a tonsillectomy – and she’s going to do it with her tongue!
Rip them outta me baby!
Suck my brains out too if you wanna….. I got no use for them…. as long as I have a woody!
Fred, you always make me grin with evil delight. You are a sick bastard, and I mean that with all my twisted heart.
Thank you.
It’s always fun to let my inner Beevis out every once in a while…..
Care to share child memories as the car rolls into Whalom Lake? >:) Used to go there all the time before they shut it down… Aaaaah, memories of sucking ass at mini-golf. I think I have a tear in my eye…
Looks like your comment landed in the wrong story.
I used to drive by the signs on route 2, but I never went there…..
Years later I found out that Whalom Park had gotten one of my favorite rides from Mountain Park which had closed in the late 80’s…
I used to go to Riverside a lot before it became 6 flags
Damn. I knew I was on the wrong story… Ah, well, se la vie. I prefer the Big E over Six Flags anyday… I despise theme parks. I am of the opinion that Disney and Warner Bros. should go to hell, too. Damn that Wile E. Coyote!
I used to work & hang out at 6 Flags when it was Riverside Park way long ago….. I have not been on “The Loop” or whatever it’s called today……. I went on the Cyclone when it was first opened…. been on Superman…. I won’t go back on the Mond Eraser….. Scream was a little more fun than the World Trade Center elevators…..
I miss the Rocket Ride that Mountain Park had – it went overto Whalom for a while. It was cool because the whole ride tilted and we could also raise and lower our planes on our own. Sometimes if there was not much of a line the operator would bounce us before letting all of the air out – grounding us all.
The ride was extremely noisey as it was all pneumatics, but it was one of the best rides.
I can’t believe she is all smiles… what a psycho!
Wow… What a fruitcake. I can’t say if she’s innocent or not yet but I find the evidence very compelling myself … Hahaha. I think weather she is or not she’s defenetly a fruitcake.
She had no right to take his life.. for that she deserves to be punished.. she knew full well what she was doing was wrong.. although many people with certain personality disorders (not all, but many) do not have the same ..feelings.. about issues of morality that the average person would.. she was well aware that murder is, at the very minimum, against the law..
However.. and this is probably going to make me the target of a few comments.. which is fine.. people don’t have to agree with me.. there is something that frustrates me about this.. He tried to break up with her.. he let her know that he wasn’t interested in more than a fling.. and he knew she wanted more than that..
Then why did he continue to sleep with her? He had an inkling she had problems.. and by continuing to have sex with her he was feeding a .. damaged.. mind.. I’m not saying he deserved what happened to him.. no one deserves to be murdered.. but I am saying that if he had simply said “no, you need to leave me alone” and cut off all contact, perhaps he wouldn’t be dead right now?? I know this site is filled with stories of people who tried to get away from crazy and abusive people, who didn’t succeed, but .. he’s not one of them.. he didn’t really try very hard because he was getting free sex..
and yes.. I do have some moral objections to sleeping with people you don’t intend to stay with..
Okay.. Im done..
Minjofu… men are Easy.
Yes, we are.
lol.. I’m going to avoid further troubles and just laugh..
Max… I’m disappointed in ya’. You got one tiny little thing wrong… Here it is: “Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander had dated for a short time, and Jodi had even lived with Arias for a few months,”
She lived with herself, Max?
Not a big deal, Just bustin’ your chops. On the whole, a good read, and I agree with everyone else, she is a fruitcake, a psycho bitch, and if a girl like her tried to date my brother, she’d be in for a HUGE surprise: My size 9 1/2 boot up her ass. I don’t kicking the cheeks, I mean firmly implanted up her ass. I would untie the laces so that I could pull my foot out and leave the boot up there. I would make sure it was far enough so she could taste boot leather and shoe polish.
Ah it’s good to be back…two days off line just sucks.
Sorry, I meant “I don’t MEAN kicking the cheeks” But you all get my drift
LoL – I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Thanks just the same :>)
On May 1, 2008, Travis left this message on her MySpace:
“I wonder how much you raise the hotness level of Yreka all by yourself, factoring in its per capita hot stats before you came, I am sure it has raised exponentially.”
One month later, she killed him.
Maybe he wanted to be “friends with benefits” and she wanted a rock.
Just about all men are pigs and she wanted to be his only trough, while he wanted to feed elsewhere…..
So she comes by and the little piggy dines….. but she finds out that he’s going to have a feast in Mexico….. just not going to happen in her world, but hey…. he’s cleaning up after the meal. She’s now feeling like a used piece of meat and snaps…. He’s thinking he’s getting what he wants – “freinds with benefits” and livin’ it up. She feels otherwise…….
So he’s all relaxing in the shower, maybe she’s kinda playing him to see what he REALLY thinks, so now he’s totally not expecting anyting, maybe he’s even waiting for her to join him in the shower!
His guard is down, the blood is in the lower brain, so if she’s out of character, he’s nt going to see it coming…….
Someone as good looking as her would definately move the blood from the thinking brain to the boinking brain, yes a cute smile and some breast and my IQ will drop in her presence. It’s just the way us men are wired…….
Maybe Satan will fall victim to her charms, or maybe he can see beyond the breasts and not fall for her shit……..
I for one am too horney right now to be a good judge.
But I am sure that deep inside her hell fire burns and maybe Satan knows enough to fear her..
Just right now my woody has taken some of the needed oxygen from my brain……
Fred, you have such a way with words. I don’t even need to look at porno tonight.
Thanks.
We all have a little bit of Beevis and Butthead in us, some more than others….
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Thank you.
I did not make those pictures, I found them.
Even though I like W., I enjoyed those pictures……..
If I ever get off my dupa, I should have them run for president!
She’s casual, she’s confident, makes her some what believeable….
BUT if she ran, why did she not go somewhere and summon help???
Pose that question to her and grill her on it and maybe she’ll loose the cool & charm….
Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Her affect makes me think “sociopath”.
THAT BITCH IS CRAZY! Sorry for the caps, but it only felt right. I agree with the propsed scenario above. This guy was obviously keeping her around for sex (prob. cuz it was impossible to make her leave completely). She found out about the other woman and snapped- period. I love how she said they broke up cuz of jealousy issues on both sides, now doesn’t that just sound like a crazy bitch still trying to justify a non-relationship. Like, “ohh, johnny still loves me, he just doesn’t call cuz it makes it harder on him” you know? shes coldhearted and nuts, lock her ass up!
They did a 48 Hours Hard Evidence on this (or a similiar show). It noted that she visited with friends while in Salt Lake the day after the murder. Many of them commented that she had gashes on her arms and hands that she could not explain.
I just saw that show last night! I remarked to my husband that she reminds me of Vanessa Marcil. Vanessa could play Jodi in the Lifetime movie. This girl is crazy, but I’m still confused by some things. I’m sure a small woman could over-power a sex-weakened guy in the shower, but I don’t know if he was shot first or stabbed first. Seems like if she stabbed him first, if it wasn’t a fatal wound, he could have fought back a little harder. oh well. Like someone else said, I need to be in the court room and hear all the evidence first before I could decide if she REALLY did it or not. Or if she even did it with help.
Regarding why she wanted to meet someone like Tony Robbins, it’s because both she and Travis were salespeople. They both worked for Pre-Paid Legal services. I worked for them(the company, not those two people) for like a week. But in the sales community, it is not uncommon for people to want to meet Tim, Zig Ziggler, Tom Hopkins, etc.
The part that keeps eating away at me with the story, that is missing from the re-write, is the religious aspect. They were both LDS. So assuming they were having sex and lived together, they were leading double lives as it was. That behavior isn’t allowed in the religion. And I have to wonder if he started having sex with her before or after he baptized her. The reason all this matters is if he was living a life of lies to some, it would call in the veracity of things he told friends and family. And would she as a LDS member, who puts on her MySpace page that she does not drink, tell someone that she is a bartender? Especially in Utah of all places?
Good point man. Even though I try to shy away from religious stuff when it might take away from the point of the story (Don’t want to be accused of bashing some religion, don’t you know – LOL), I have to say I missed that and I would have probably used it. There was enough hypocrisy, deceit, and outright lies from Jodi, and to a point even Travis, going around in this story, that’s for sure.
Religion can be a sticky topic, and it rarely has a logical place in stories such as these. I just happen to be LDS, so it stuck out to me. I know if they were sleeping together ahead of time and been honest about it, he never would have been able to baptize her, nor her get baptized. In the LDS religion, if you are having pre-marital sex, this can get you excommunicated. This causes many people to assume double lives to appear one way to their church friends and family, and another way to everyone else. So who knows what he was telling her, versus what he was telling his friends to keep up appearances?
Thinking about this and looking at his MySpace page, I don’t think it would be a leap to say this guy was a player. He was in his 30s and never married. His interests on his page are money, women, and power. And if you read through it, as others pointed out, he was stuck on himself. He was kind of playing games here. Sleeping with one girl, while pursuing things with other girls. Any guy knows that 99% of girls aren’t as detached from that as they want to be.
There is a pretty good likelihood that she did it. But unlike a lot of the other victims in the articles on here, I don’t think this guy was innocent. Now that doesn’t justify him dying by any means. But I think his actions caught up with him. Kind of like if a junkie dies. You feel bad that they died, but they were playing with fire to begin with. This is why we should use good judgment and respect those in our lives. And the saddest part of all is that if he followed the beliefs that he claimed to have, he would still be alive today.
I agree with what you are saying.
He should have been more upfront with her, maybe she would not have become such a stalker if she better understood what he really was to him. He probably played her and when the reality hit her passion turned to rage…… Maybe after sleeping with him she thought everything was happening again and he told her that he’s still going to Mexico with the other woman. Who really knows.
His side of the story is burried and her side is marred with her perspective as well.
As far as the religion and sex thing goes…. many Christians end up leading somewhat of a double life. As Christains we are still human and thus will not stop sinning until we die. Even Mother Teresa sinned (less than most people, but still sinned).
Maybe the religion played a part in her snapping….. Maybe she felt that after having sex they were practically married, but he felt otherwise….
Anyway, he played and hey both lost.
I have a hard time with the “he’s not completely innocent” part. Without calling myself a complete whore (there were times in my life where this description fit to a tee) I can say that there are people who can play the “let’s just fuck and have fun without ties” game and there are people who can’t. There are even more people who “think” they can do this and cannot. It is my experience that one party or another gets burned eventually while pretending they are going along with this plan. That party is usually female but boy, you should see how happy a guy can be when he finds out he’s not the only contestant in the audience at his favorite show, if you get what I mean.
He may have been completely innocent. He may have had a straightforward spoken understanding with her that he was there specifically for the sex. He may have had no idea whatsoever that she was becoming consumed with possessing him. It’s not probable, but he was pretty into himself and my experience with these type of people is that they are not really paying attention to what is happening psychologically with others around them.
Definitely a crazy case that doesn’t make any sense. Her version of events doesn’t add up at all. If this was someone she loved, then how could she “escape” from the apartment and not try to get the person she loved help or call the police to report what had happened? Her story makes as much sense as the whole satanic cult defense theory that Scott Peterson tried to use as his defense strategy. The interview with her is just odd and weird. The one thing that got me though was her reasoning behind why she smiled in her mugshot. She definitely isn’t wired correctly. I think this guy didn’t want her for a girlfriend, but he still figured she was good enough for an occasional booty call. Even if this was the case with this guy, he damn sure didn’t deserve to die the way he did. I feel badly for his family. There is a picture of this girl with his mother on her my space page. I hope his family gets justice for him. RIP Travis.
I don’t think the woman in the picture was Travis’ mother.. Both of his parents were drug-abusers and are deceased.
This girl is so creepy. Her explanation for the smiling mugshot just makes it seem more bazaar. She doesn’t get that? Sad…
Did it occur to anyone (likely it did) that the “ear to ear throat cut” might be the key to why a small, slender woman is able to overtake a man Travis’ size? He was posing in the shower naked, right? I bet you that she had him in the shower under the guises of taking naked pics of how “stacked” he was (he was a “Tri-athelite”, recall, from his MySpace, and obviously quite proud of his “16-inch biceps”–she simply played off that narcissistic tendency).
She probably took the pictures of him posing nude from the front, then told him to turn around so she could get some pictures of his backside. When he did that, I would not be surprised if she then pretended she was going to get “frisky” with him (kissing on him from behind and whatnot, which would not cause him to question her close proximity, and also would allow her to have the knife in hand without his knowledge) and then cut his throat from behind. The jugular cut would seriously reduce his ability to fight back, and it would also likely explain her bloody palm print on the shower (depending on where it was). As many of you know, the amount of blood discharged from a jugular cut would cause quite a mess. Blood is also quite slippery–much moreso than water. She likely was already bracing herself in the shower while behind him by placing her hand on the shower wall. When he reacted to the cut, I’m sure it pushed her back, and she likely almost lost her balance but, in an attempt to regain it, placed her hand in an area where blood spurted and left the print. This is all obviously conjecture since I have not seen the forensics report or crime scene pics, but based on what I know working in the field, this would explain a lot of what’s been reported. I am going on the assumption that the ear-to-ear throat wound will indicate that he was cut from behind, as this is most often the case in such wounds.
Some have speculated she “flipped” about the Mexico trip with another woman. I think this was clearly all very calculated. The state’s decision to charge her with capital murder and seek the death penalty seems to support this assumption. I haven’t heard whether they retrieved the gun or not, but why on Earth would she have both a gun and a knife with her if it wasn’t premeditated? Also, she admits to watching all those cop and forensic shows on T.V.; thus she realized she needed to be able to wash away evidence. How better than to commit the murder in the shower?
Finally, as someone who does work in-field (forensic psychology), I can tell you that her response in the video to the question “Did you kill Travis?” seals it for me. She did the typical “blink and look away to the right”. Anyone trained in body language and deception recognition knows that is a classic tell for deception. Nonethless, she is clearly sociopathic (to be able to lie so calmly, nevermind calculate such a murder), and I’m glad to hear they are seeking death for this one.
And you call yourself “regularjoe.” I caught that, too. She is deceptive as hell
She claims her faith will get her thru.
If she were so faithful
1. She’d confess….. stop sinning here and take responsibility
2. While everyone is afraid to die, if she’s innocent then she’ll be in a better place.
3. A last minute confession may also save her soul… that is if she’s really that faithful.
I am no expert, but it is my understanding that in order to cut a throat, the aggressor needs to be very strong because of the muscles and tissue in the neck. It also requires a VERY sharp knife. I wonder if the shower was a stall-type with a glass door, or a tub/curtain. If it was a glass door, I would wonder where she hid this really sharp knife.
I would guess that the autopsy should be able to tell approximately how tall the killer was, if the wound happened while he was standing.
I agree that Jodi had the motivation (IF she is a sociopath), but I still have trouble with the application, at least without reading the autopsy report.
I am thinking that if she did it, she had help, but from who? If she hired a professional killer, would A) she be on site which would bump up her possibility of being a suspect, and B) would a professional killer let her participate, knowing that he would be in jeopardy of being caught if she got caught and confessed. The fact that there were two weapons used suggest that there were two aggressors.
Now, lets say she did get a professional killer to help despite A & B above. Why then would she not stay at the apartment after the killer left and make it look like the killer left her because it was a drug hit or something – she is smart, that seems like a legitimate story – at least more than the actual story she gives. Or at the least, flee from the apartment and then call the cops and report the assassination?
Her actual story seems lame, but on the other hand, she is smart enough that she should have had a better story. The purse might not be a big deal – If i were fleeing and I saw my purse, I would instinctively grab it, I think. I wouldn’t stop and look for it, but if I saw it, hell yes.
OK, so… lets say her story is true. We know that the human mind can do weird things. She would have been in horrible fear if it really happened. Then she might try to convince herself it was a bad dream. She could even go into some kind of denial or amnesia.
I am NOT saying that all of this happened. Only that there is possibly some alternative explanation for what happened. Crazy? yes. Weird? yes. On the other hand, I do tend to trust law enforcement (about 75% of the time, anyway). I would have to think that they are smarter than me, and they have the actual evidence in hand. The fact that they arrested/charged her, and are keeping her in jail, makes me think that there is a lot more evidence of guilt.
I just am not willing to pull out the torches and pitchforks and storm the jail yet.
OK about the height thing? This may be TMI but I would be willing to hazard the guess that if you’re athletic enough to have sex in the shower (think standing on the sides), you could be tall enough to slit a tall man’s throat.
I don’t think that the slash to the throat was the first attack. If it indeed WAS.. There would have been no need for the gunshot wound or the additional 27 stab wounds.
This is what I THINK may have happened.
There was a large amount of blood throughout the long hallway, that lead to the master bathroom and closet. In this hallway, is also where the bloody palmprint on the wall was. The palmprint was pretty low, to where it was obvious that the wall was not touched while she was standing.
I think that he was shot first, in the bathroom because this is where the shell casing was found. When that shot did not kill him, she attempted to do so again.. but…
Remember how on the 48 hours show, she said the, “intruder” put the gun to her head, pulled the trigger and nothing? That the gun jammed.. I happen to think this MAY have happened with her. He was not killed upon the first shot, so when the second was attempted. It jammed. So she resorted to stabbing. *when I say she.. I mean, whoever committed this crime. heh* I believe the handprint was down low, because she braced herself against the wall in attempts to move him.
I think the intial stabbings were to the back.. and the struggle brought them back to the bathroom where it ended with the final stabs to the front. Based on how he was positioned in the shower, (which was a free standing shower with a glass door) I could see how it would be possible to obtain the cut of the throat. If that were the scenario, there would be no need to have been standing or bracing against the wall for this action…
But, this is just all my two cents.
This is going to be way politically incorrect, but real.
1. She’s cute & hot, she could have easily gotten someone else who was interested in marriage.
I would expect such behavior from a woman who is
1. The mother of his child – Mom wants Dad to be in the picture or else
2. Fugly – someone seemed to really care and he aint getting away
I could see him dumping someone fugly – that’s the way pigs can be….
She could and should have done better….
Fred, it’s not about whether she could get some other guy. It’s about control and rejection. He rejected her and she couldn’t control him, and she wasn’t having any of that. He could have been ugly as sin and she could have been a beauty queen, and she still couldn’t handle that he didn’t want her the way she thought he should.
As for her being “cute and hot”: debatable. I don’t find her attractive whatsoever. “Beauty’s in the eye…” and all that. She IS articulate and does appear to be somewhat intelligent (always a pre-req), but as looks go, he didn’t appear to be hurting either, in that regard.
Therefore, Let’s take looks out of it altogether. Not germaine. Looks are really not something any of us have too much control over (sure, we can primp, change our hair, etc. but c’mon–can’t take credit for your parents’ genetics).
She seems to be a control freak. She’s calculating. Looking at her MySpace, she obviously put an awful lot of time into creating a certain “image” of herself for people. I mean, I like Karouac but I don’t go around quoting him. It all stinks. Seems a little too contrived. A sure sign of a control freak. Think: Betty Broderick, only younger.
I agree with you in many ways, Joe. However, in most “women scorned” murders, isn’t there usually a financial aspect? Either life insurance or property that will revert to the spouse or ex-spouse?
Killing a guy simply because you can’t have him does not seem like a typical reason for a woman to murder. Either rage or financial reasons seem more likely. She could have killed him out of rage if he screwed her and then dumped her, but where did the knife and gun come from? Were they his and she found them? Or was she the type of person to carry lethal weapons in her purse? And, if he dumped her, wouldn’t you think he would be apprehensive when she came in the bathroom? He might not suspect she was going to kill him, but if I were him, I would expect the possibility of some wildcat clawing. Which would come back to my original contention that being a smaller and weaker woman, she would have to be incredibly “lucky” to not have him wrestle the knife away from her.
It seems that stalking him and fucking with his head, fucking with other women that he hooked up with, harassing him, creating bad publicity about him… all of those would be rotten, but I could see those kinds of responses by an obsessive scorned woman. This calculated, probably assisted, murder scenario? Not so much.
Again, I am NOT saying that she didn’t do it – just that this is really intriguing because it seems like there are an awful lot of gaps in both sides of the scenario.
You bring up a lot of great points, Mazzi, and I’m actually wondering about this, also. This is why I was curious as to whether or not they ever located the gun. I also don’t know where the knife came from. I DO know that there are two main types of killers: organized (who tend to pre-plan their crimes, bring the weapons, and are quite methodical) and disorganized (those who tend to do it spontaneously, usually using weapons of convenience found in the location of the crime). From reading crime related material, you no doubt know this. So my main question is: was the knife and gun his, or did she bring it to the scene?
The fact that she took pictures of his dead body, to me, is significant because it symbolizes he need to turn against him his own sense of vanity. He loved to pose for pics, obviously (they were both, unarguably, conceited and egocentric). It would be her way of mocking his vanity. The fact he was killed IN THE SHOWER and she attempted (albeit halfheartedly) to clean up traces of her being there (supported by the fact that she stated she hadn’t seen him in a while, washed and dried the sheets, and put the phone in the wash in an attempt to destroy it) tells me there WAS premeditation and calculation. Also, she attempted an alibi via this conference she was going to (and only made the last day of). It’s like the Simpson murders: OJ thought his trip to Chicago was the perfect alibi, and did not realize his whereabouts would be scrutinized hour-by-hour.
Getting back to your question about WHY she’d kill for mere rejection, there are actually many documented cases of women (and men) doing this—and it’s more important to focus on the element of control than the rejection part here. She could not control him—therefore she could not control his rejection of her. Her deep need (and inability) to do so, for a narcissistic personality, is often enough to cause them to seek revenge. It’s a revenge killing, simply.
I also do not think that they had a “blow up” over the Mexico trip, as many speculate. This idea was introduced as conjecture by his friend Chris. I don’t know the details, but you have to recall that, according to Arias, when they broke up in June of 2007, it was MUTUAL. She has a sincere need to save face and portray herself in a very tightly calculated way. The fact that she could listen to an hour and a half of character bashing by his friends and, at most, muster a cold-death stare is an indication that this chick is in control of herself (at least, in her mind).
I suspect she found out about the Mexico trip, initiated a liaison with him in order to garner more info and to confirm he was going to go through with it, and then acted like she was cool with it—like it didn’t bother her. She had sex with him, was playful with him, acted cool as a cucumber…all the while she knew what she was going to do. I’ve worked several cases where I’ve dealt with men AND women just like this: Everything is cool, I’m not a ticking time-bomb, I’m in control. They are scary people, because everything they do is extremely calculated and—albeit understandable to THEM—utterly twisted to the casual observer.
The thing that is hard for us “normal” people to comprehend is HOW STRONG THE NEED IS FOR SOME PEOPLE TO CONTROL things. I’ll not get into the dynamics of it, but suffice to say that she likely has a very ambivalent relationship with a cold, unemotional father, probably is a product of a messy divorce where she saw her mom fall apart over her dad (perhaps he left them) and she decided very early on that no one was going to hurt her that way. She’s spent the rest of her life trying to fabricate and control every aspect of her life as a result of it.
I could be wrong. Truthfully, I usually have a LOT more case info when I come to this type of conclusion. But…based on the cases I’ve worked, this is the GENERAL background story we see.
As I said, I agree with most of what you say. I especially agree with your interpretation of the “control” angle. I also agree with your comments about organized vs. disorganized killers, and this killing seems to have elements of both, depending on how you look at it.
The problem is that I can’t imagine a mental walk through of this killing without an accomplice, and I cant imagine how an accomplice would fit in at all. I can imagine a walk through of intruders, at least till the part where she left and didn’t get help.
None of my imaginings are based on specifics of the scene of course – like I want to know if the room mates were actually HOME at the time of the killing, and if so, why didn’t they hear the shot (silencer? leans towards professional hit), what the layout of the house was, were the last two pictures POSED or deliberately taken, or were they more like accidental snaps? What kind of injuries did she have? I have a million questions, lol.
One other thing is – the washed bedding was supposedly in the drier. WHO would do that? I could see if one of them put the linens in the washer after sex – maybe even that a roommate moved them to the drier. But then, how did the camera get there? Did Jodi hang out for an hour or two after killing him to do the laundry? Or did a hit man grab everything that could have held evidence and toss it in the washer the same way he might have washed down the shower to get rid of trace evidence?
I will have no problem if this girl is found guilty – I sure as heck have no reason to support her, but I don’t want to form a definite opinion till more facts are available. (Unlike many of the PYSIH cases where there is no doubt that the scumball is the perp). IF she did it, I hope she gets the DP, because the only way she could have done it was so cold and calculating that she doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air as humans.
There is a slight possibility that maybe a roommate did it or if Jodi left in a huff when the other woman rang at the door……
With all the evidence being cleaned except for the camera makes it smell like a bit of a set up……. but I do not know the entire story to have that establish reasonable doubt….
Still – her escape is just to “Ted Kennedy” for me…..
OK you are right, but I am saying she had choices, she could have moved on…. Reason 1 would have bound the two of them togther like it or not on both of their behalfs.
Reason 2 I have seen in action, the girl may not be fugly, but have poor self esteem and she latches on to the first guy that seems to “care”
I have seen such happen, the girl was very smart, but frumpy and socially retarded. I warned her parents that she needed to grow up before she went out into the world, that such extreme sheltering would backfire. I can picture this girl going psycho if she’s ever rejected………
I would just like to say that I am a very petite woman, as far as height and weight but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if I caught my husband by surprise that I could kill him. I have had a policeman tell me that little women are the worst domestic disputes because you don’t have anything to grab a hold to. If he was wet and stabbed he was probably slipping on water and his own blood. I do believe that she did it but I also believe that single men need to be a little more up front about their intention in a relationship.
The roommate’s seem a little fishy to me as well. Who is able to live in a house with a dead body and not know anything is wrong? I have had the good luck to never find myself in this situation but by god from what I have heard it is an awful smell. Why did the roommate’s think that he was in Mexico. They said that they were going to Cancun in a few days, why would Travis of left a couple of days early?
I have some questions about the roommates, and one big question that could be significant. First the biggie – is there ANY possibility that Travis was using cocaine? He seems so narcissistic and so flamboyant on his myspace, plus the hyper-motivation, it seems to me that he might be a good candidate for coke. (My understanding is that MANY cokeheads are almost ADD, and they use coke to self-medicate, sort of like the principle behind Ritalin. It calms them down, as opposed to the depressed people who get a huge rush of energy from it). I am not trying to besmirch the dead, or blame the victim in any way, but it just seems, on paper, like it may not be a crazy question. And, if there is any possibility that he was into coke, is there then any possibility that he owed the wrong people money?
Now, about the roommates… I agree that it seems suspicious that no one knew there was a dead body there. But it could well be that the layout of the house (and I am guessing it is a house, not an apartment, since his office was downstairs) would allow that.
The friends who talked crap about Jodi were not the roommates. But they clearly did not like her, which may have been legitimate, or may have been exaggerated. Interestingly the guy in that pair is the same one who came up with the Mexico theory. Now, I have been in a situation where my best friend did not like the guy I was dating. She told me all kinds of things about him, and finally gave me an ultimatum. (I chose the guy – the wonderful man I was married to for 24 years). She continued to spread shit around about him for years after I broke off ties with her. It’s clear that this couple loved Travis, and didn’t like Jodi – but is it possible that they have decided she killed him, and are now filling in extra details (like evil eyes) after the fact?
Sorry my posts are so long, but this case is really intriguing. Unlike most murders, it seems to be a big mystery. I just hope that if she is guilty, the state can prove it.
Errr.. I meant ADHD in the prior post – it’s the hyperactivity part that causes the problems, lol.
Ummm she leaves the guy with masked people with guns and doesnt call police? NO. She did it. I hate to use the “SHE LOOKS CRAZY” card, but well, she looks crazy. I cant tell if she is looking at me or at her nose. Crazy people always deserve HELL, and it looks like she has made her reservations.
There are a couple of terms that I would suggest that anyone interested in researching this case might want to google or look up on Wikipedia (and YES, I know that wiki is not an authoritative source – but it’s a good place to start):
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
- “The person has been exposed to a traumatic event in which both of the following were present: the person experienced, witnessed, or was confronted with an event or events that involved actual or threatened death or serious injury, or a threat to the physical integrity of self or others” and “the person’s response involved intense fear, helplessness, or horror.” (from out of hades site)
Dissociation:
- “an unexpected partial or complete disruption of the normal integration of a person’s conscious or psychological functioning that cannot be easily explained by the person. Dissociation is a mental process that severs a connection to a person’s thoughts, memories, feelings, actions, or sense of identity. Dissociation is a normal response to trauma, and allows the mind to distance itself from experiences that are too much for the psyche to process at that time.” (from Wiki)
These are both pretty much textbook definitions. However, there is no doubt that both would be easy to fake. Jodi is smart enough that she could have faked this response, but on the other hand – it could also explain why she legitimately would not have remembered being in his house having sex, or that someone killed him. It could explain why she never got help for him. Her fear and panic could have blanked it all from her mind. IF you believe the psychology. Even though I am a psych student, I don’t always buy into all the crap.
I wonder if there are videos of her interview and changing her story? It would seem to me that if she suddenly remembered, there would be indicators in her body language and facial expressions as she recovered the memories.
There were a few points that might not have been made clear to some of you. I read somewhere (Courthouse Steps I think) that the police say Travis was shot in the face first. It wasn’t a fatal injury, but would have definitely incapacitated him, which would make it much easier for her to finish him off with the knife.
They found her palm print at the scene, which was comprised of a mixture of both his & her blood. There were witnesses who say she arrived in Utah the following day with some of her fingers bandaged. Her explanation was that she’d cut them at her bar tending job, so she admitted that the wounds were cuts.
Her original story of not seeing Travis since April ‘08 only changed after she learned about the evidence the cops had (bloody palm print, pictures, etc.) Then she spun that absurd story about 3 “people in black” who mysteriously arrive to kill him, but let her go scot free. Then, we’re supposed to believe she drives outta there and all the way to Utah without a simple 911 call to help Travis??? I call BULLSHIT!
I don’t care how hot she is or how calmly she speaks, she’s guilty as sin in my book! Hell – yeah!!!
Anyone else notice in that picture of those two together she looks like she is trying to strangle him?
What a creepy bitch.
Poptart!! Where ya been, hun? We have had some troll issues… you were definitely missed. lol!
I have had a zillion things going off in every direction! I have been dropping in to read posts, but I havent had time to post much of anything lately. I did see that James, the king of fucktardia had broken his promise to steer clear from this site as he has reared his ugly head again like a case of herpes. Trolls-gotta love em.
I am sorry that I missed out on the fun. LOL.
WHY would you stop to grab your purse after someone just tried to shoot you in the head? seriously. makes. no. sense. my ex is currently dating a woman of this calibur, and i’m scared for him.
She was on 48 Hours last night, a repeat from March. It filled in a LOT of details not mentioned above and, to me, only further confirms that she is batshit crazy.
In her “smugshot” she looks quite like a girl in high school that I had the hots for…
I saw this girl some years later and her face was still cute, but body-wise she looed like “Fat braod” from the comic strip “BC”
So, Jodi’s more powerful than Ava Maria Gorden, I am horny.
You are always horny, Fred. Don’t let your *ahem* little brain get in the way of your powerful thinking big brain….Devise some kind of torture for her. She killed a guy after sex, for crying out loud! That’s low, even for us women!
Not always, Ava Maria Gordon scared Colonel Sanders big time.
Wow, his Myspace page is….interesting. Talk about full of himself!! He refers to himself in the third person!! Ugh. He was obviously a player…she was incredibly stupid if she thought that guy was gonna settle down with her!! She should’ve known that guy only wanted a booty call from her!! She’s batshit crazy though for killing him over it…….
My first wife (of whom I was her 2nd husband) did that as well.
For her 7th anniversary to her 3rd husband she contemplates divorce.
I have heard some of these statements before, “She thinks her looks will get her off”, “She took drugs”, She is not a nice person.” All during the course of a murder trial. Fortunately for the woman on trial there were juror’s who listened to the ‘facts’ of the case and ignored the ‘opinions.’ Turns out the man was murdered by a quasi Mob hit… Not his ex g/f.
All of you (including Max the cat) rushing to judgement here seem to forget the presumption of innocence that our Country stands for.. A presumption that applies to BOTH people we like and people we do not like. Shame on you all
Where did you hear it was a “Quasi-mob” hit? Shame on you for giving us that line of horse-shit especially since this hasn’t gone to trial yet. Dumbass. Her trial doesn’t start until 2010. Get it straight, Mr. Ed the Shit Talking Horse.
Sinse we are NOT the members of the jury, nor has God employed any of us as His advisors, we are entitled to post our opinions and trade facts that we get from other sources or facts that we know (if we are somehow involved with the case or people involved).
Weather I want to fuck her brains out or send her to the pits of hell will have no bearing on this case… Even if a juror were to read this, the juror must deal with the fact presented to them in the court room.
The fact that her story changed and she did a Ted Kennedy style escape would as a juror raise questions as to her innocence and should be red flags that the prosecutor has to do some more serious digging.
Oh Ed … are you her Dad, or brother, or something? Take off the blinders. I am not sure which is scarier, sociopaths like her who appear normal or the people who are naive enough to believe her. She has lied, lied, lied, and has another lie to cover her last lie. I don’t care how intelligent she sounds, if you really listen to her words it’s a lot of doubletalk and nonsensical babble. She has an answer for everything which usually just makes her look more nuts, like her ridiculously chipper explanation for her stupid mugshot. (I won’t even go into her masked intruder tale.) Who laughs and smiles while she tells this story, then says, “I knew it was going to be all over the internet, so why not?” A narcissist through and through.
She is very rehearsed and contrived, and those things that she has not rehearsed … well you can see her searching for more lies in her head as she speaks. I would sleep better thinking she did this for money, or something tangible, but she did it because he pissed her off. Are you next?
I was a juror — and the mob guys (aledgidly) involved were Spilatro’s henchmen. We had testimony from federal judges, the DEA (he was a coke dealer from Medellin–according to them), but morons like you all wanted to convict HER because of slander and looks (and a general fear of good looking self assured women.)
The murder took place in the parking lot of The Flame restaurant..
(google it)
Until you sit on a murder trial (hopefully in the jury box) keep your trap shut. You are fricking convicting someone here on pure hearsay — as none of this has been presented to and approved by a judge as evidence.
Such ignorance of America’s legal system is breathtaking.. Did you all go to school in Kansas or something?
Some American back me up here!??!
Bottom line…we don’t know the ‘facts’ here..
Where with the Middle School Assistant Principle we DO know the whole ‘factual’ story, and the Supreme court in a 8-1 decision said he was out of line strip searchin a 13 y/o in serach of asprin. He should burn in hell! :-/
Mr. Ed, specify which trial you are talking about, because I SAY AGAIN: Jodi’s trial is not until 2010. BTW, I’m as American as they come. A military police officer in the United States Navy. If you are not going to be specific, you better be prepared to take fire.
And don’t apply whichever trial you were involved in to the one at hand. Nothing ever lines up exactly. Jodi is a pompous little asshole who makes my ego look small by comparison
Trial, what trial? The only trial that you were a juror on occurred in your imagination. If you bothered to check the records, Jodi’s trial isn’t due to take place until 2010.
Now let’s talk about Tony Spilatro, who’s been DEAD since 1986. You must be talking about one of the trials that developed from Annie Spilatro turning government witness. Because anything having to do with TONY SPILATRO ended in the 80’s. I think you’ve been watching too many Marty Scorsese movies.
So come clean, what’s your REAL interest in this case? What relationship do you have with Jodi? I’ll bet you’re the new boyfriend she was fucking when she offed Travis, aren’t you? Man, whoever you are, you dumb as hell, because Jodi Arias has got to be the worst liar I’ve ever seen – if her body language isn’t giving her away, or the inconsistencies in her story, it’s that work of fiction she calls “what really happened” that’s screaming she’s guilty.
Oh sure Jodi, you charged the large man with the gun (which, fortunately for you, misfired when he pointed at your head an pulled the trigger, right Jodi?), and still had the presence of mind to grab your purse on the way out the door…WOW!
Max, you know I love and respect you. And I agree with your assessment of her body language, and with the outrageous story she tells.
But am I missing something? I just can’t get off the fence onto one side or the other. Since we usually agree on things, I don’t know why we see this one so differently, lol. What do you think?
Don’t know Maz, but it happens all the time. That’s how we get hung juries I guess. I’m not even saying I’m right, just that I’m convinced she did it. I’m sure her story is BS, so that makes it simpler for me….all I have to look at is the forensic evidence that’s been released to the public, and her lies about where she was on the day of the murder. And remember, that timestamp on the pictures is factory-set and can’t be manipulated. So we have her hand print in blood at the crime scene, blood that’s a mixture of Travis’ and Jodi’s BTW. I think that’s the most damning evidence of all, because it can’t be explained away without an elaborate lie – hence her story of the three killers in black. We have the pictures, which definitively place her in Travis’s room on the day the crime was committed. We also have the pictures of Travis’s body which were taken minutes after the nude shots. We also have her amateurish attempts to destroy evidence the she was there (washing the bedding) – something professional killers wouldn’t bother to do. She also turned her cell phone off for nearly a day (the 4th of June, of course), so her whereabouts couldn’t be tracked.
As for her being physically capable of killing a 6 foot 2, 225 pound man, I believe she shot him in the face first, and cut his throat afterward. People don’t always die immediately after a gunshot to the head, and that would also take into account the large amount of blood. Head wound tend to bleed profusely, and obviously so do people who’s throats have been cut from ear to ear. I think after she shot him, she realized Travis wasn’t dead so she cut his throat. I bet she took a lot of sadistic pleasure in that too. Of course, this is all speculation on my part, but it fits with the evidence and fills in what few doubts I had.
Max, if she cut his throat after she shot him in the face, wouldn’t the angle of the wound be different than had he been standing? Sorry I need Calc before I can actually take my official major units. DOH!
Anyway before I throw my laptop into the wall, could you also put that video NOT ON AUTOPLAY??????? I hate the sound of her voice now…
I tried a while back to change the autoplay, but no luck – I’m going to find another video, because it’s driving me crazy too.
As far as the angle of the cut to his throat, I suppose the cops couls tell the difference, but I’m not sure. I think it would be more opinion than fact myself, but again, I’m only guessing.
I’ll back you up Ed. But I am afraid that your posts are confusing as hell. It sounds like you are using a DIFFERENT case that you were a juror on, and the GF was charged, but was not actually guilty?
Anyway, I am with you on the idea that until we know what the evidence is, we are speculating. While it’s OK to suspect that such-and-such happened, it’s a bit troublesome how many people seem willing to string this woman up without all the facts. There are way too many ways that she COULD be innocent – they may be far-fetched, but life itself is often far-fetched.
I can’t say that she didn’t kill this guy. I can’t even say that I don’t THINK she killed him. But I can say that there is (based on what little we know) a POSSIBILITY that she didn’t kill him.
As you pointed out, there are many stories where there is no doubt who the perp is. I have no issues with people forming rigid opinions before a trial or sentencing in those cases, but when there is a sliver of doubt, I think it’s best to hold back final judgment and keep at least a little bit of an open mind.
“but morons like you all wanted to convict HER because of slander and looks (and a general fear of good looking self assured women.)”
Wow. No wonder you were on the jury. The defense probably hand-picked you personally.
I am sure that the LVPD (Metro) felt the same way about her as you do about Jodi — THEY were 100% wrong… but that did not stop them from making irrelevent statements about her character to the jury… Just as you are here —
To be clear — I do not care if she is a FLAMING whore bitch… That does NOT make her guilty of murder, period.. EVEN under the UCMJ which you obviously have no clue about… as it sounds to me lilke you would like to arrest everybody you don’t like, yeah?
Damn, Ed. You got me, holy shit, How could I have been so evil as to look at the evidence that was made available to the damn public and possibly think that she was guilty.
Don’t ever call someone out on their knowledge of their job. I am paid to not only ENFORCE the UCMJ, but also to TEACH it. By the way, the US Navy doesn’t just hand out promotions. I had to EARN each one of the FIVE I have recieved. Go ahead, look up SECOND CLASS PETTY OFFICER/ MASTER-AT-ARMS and then come back to apologize. I’m patient.
As a human being I am allowed to have an opinion. I can think she is guilty all I want. I can even voice that opinion if I so please, especially since it has no bearing on the case.
I am looking at this the same way I look at cases I am involved in. With an open mind.
Most insults have no bearing, but when someone insults my profession? Be ready for a smackdown. You brought my cynicism upon yourself by not being clear about what you had previously posted.
By the way, I don’t arrest, I apprehend. BIG DIFFERENCE. Much as I would like to APPREHEND people for Felony Stupidity, I practice restraint and only apprehend those who I have permission to apprehend.
And where did you get grounds to insult me in such a manner? I was querying as to whether you were grounded in reality. I don’t believe that I had said much to lead you to believe that I “as it sounds to me lilke you would like to arrest everybody you don’t like, yeah?” Read my comments directed at you and then come back with an intelligent remark. Until then, you have given me grounds to believe that you only read what you want to read.
Yours,
MA2
*applauds*
NavyCop….You are awesome!! I have seen some of your other comments, so I know that things haven’t been easy in life for you and you have worked your ass off to get where you are in life! You are one tough and classy lady, and you are also a great mom! I am proud to know that you represent our military forces for America! Keep up the great work!!
Damn, Corset Lass and Alanna, I’m blushing… :) He really pissed me off and now I think I scared him off the site for good. Only time will tell, right? You guys are the greatest.
Looks like Ed won’t have to worry about constipation with that new asshole you tore him.
One of my old girlfriends was in the navy (way long ago…)
NavyCop, that was freaking hilarious. I’m late on this, but fucking a. I haven’t laughed that hard in quite awhile.
Tito, Fred- I guess I share the same lack of timing. I haven’t read this in a while either. Has Ed ever come back? Or was I too hard on him? >:) What a douche. Dumbass motherfucker accusing me of not knowing my shit… Hell hath no fury like a pissed off MA2 >:D
It’s all good. I guess your hamster took a break too?
Nah, it died. I just now replaced it
Ed, you’re not making a whole lot of sense anymore. Let’s stay on topic.
As for the good-looking self-assured woman fear … wha? I don’t care what she looks like. I would be afraid of her not for the pretty T&A but more because of the unpredictable, hair-trigger, loony-tune side of her personality. That’s just me. (And btw, I personally feel there are plenty of ugly guilty people out there too.) And that self-assuredness? That’s contentment, because she got what she wanted (dead Travis) and even though her plan hit a few snags she now thinks she can talk her through way through those snags and out of a murder conviction. Remember, she has nothing but time these days to perfect her story. Don’t be fooled just because she can put a sentence together. And she only has to convince one juror of how sweet and innocent she is.
In her 48 Hours interview, even JODI admits the forensic evidence is compelling. There is still much I am sure that we do not know about that will come out at trial, but what is out is undeniable. People have been convicted on less.
And as far as the camera goes, this is speculation but I think she deleted the images and forgot the camera was on the bed as she cleaned herself and the crime scene. Then she scooped up the linens with the camera in them and tossed them in the wash. In her rush she didn’t notice. I can’t think of how the camera would get in there if not by accident.
One more hole in her story not addressed yet … if they had just gotten jiggy and she was taking sexy pics when the gruesome twosome barged in, how was she dressed and presentable and her purse staged just so as if she were already ready to go? By her story, wouldn’t she have been running into to the street wet and naked, wearing only her purse? Come on, now, someone here humor me with other possible scenarios.
Jessica, you’re right on mark! I had an opportunity to watch the 48 Hours episode today, and it does fill in a lot of holes, too. The news reports have a lot of the evidence wrong.
I’m also willing to bet that the gun and knife (never recovered, right??) are somewhere in the desert. The guy was shot multiple times, at least once in the face, mere MOMENTS after sex. Wow. That’s a heartless bitch, no matter HOW you look at it.
Ed has managed to confuse me terribly. I’m just hearing about this case so I don’t have strong opinions either way, but I assume he’s talking about being a juror on a different case in which case I don’t understand how or why he’s applying that case to this one.
Also, Ed’s use of the word “hearsay” was cute. However, hearsay is not evidence that has not yet been approved by a judge. A hearsay statement is an out-of-court statement (or document) offered for the truth of the matter asserted during a trial.
Again, I’m not necessarily convinced about anything because I haven’t read enough about the case. But if she did do it, it makes the myspace pictures with him super creepy.
“Max… I’m disappointed in ya’. You got one tiny little thing wrong… Here it is: “Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander had dated for a short time, and Jodi had even lived with Arias for a few months,”
She lived with herself, Max?
Not a big deal, Just bustin’ your chops. On the whole, a good read, and I agree with everyone else, she is a fruitcake, a psycho bitch, and if a girl like her tried to date my brother, she’d be in for a HUGE surprise: My size 9 1/2 boot up her ass. I don’t kicking the cheeks, I mean firmly implanted up her ass. I would untie the laces so that I could pull my foot out and leave the boot up there. I would make sure it was far enough so she could taste boot leather and shoe polish.
Ah it’s good to be back…two days off line just sucks”
I think that is the closest I came to saying she was anything approaching guilty. However, was I was intimating was that I thought her demeanor was showing that she is somewhat mentally imbalanced. But for some strange reason I think Ed is related to her, since he is attacking my credibilty directly.
So go re-group and come up with an attack that will stick, Mr. Ed
Max, did I ever say that she WAS guilty? Or was I trying to get Mr. Ed to be specific by telling him that her trial isn’t until 2010?
By the way, Eddie, you confused soul, this sentence right here: “She killed a guy after sex, for crying out loud! That’s low, even for us women!” was meant to be a joke. I was egging Fred on. If you read it in the tone that was intended, then you would see that, you narrow minded prick.
This girl could kill me during sex!!!!
And I challenge any coroner to wipe that smile off my face!
I find it extremely interesting that she seems to think that this is a glamour shots photo shoot. Hmm…psychopath maybe?!
I dunno – the orange kinda is her color…….
Max….Did you change the video link? If so, thank you for that. Everytime I would come back to read the comments on this page the video would automatically start playing. I forgot about this while I was reading comments the other night about 11:00pm. Everyone was asleep and the video started playing really loud. Long story short, it woke up my 4 dogs & cat…..they all starting howling and it took me over an hour to get them all to calm back down. I guess that will teach me to be reading comments when I should be sleeping! Can’t help it though because I’ll admit I love coming here and reading the stories/comments. Thanks for all your stories and the time you put into this site!!
Yes I did. It was driving me nuts too. I recorded it with some software I have and upped it to my YouTube account. Jodi’s voice can really grate on you after a while, can’t it?
Thanks for the compliments dear, this has been a labor of love for me from the beginning, but it’s always cool to know folks appreciate what I do, especially someone as nice as you are.
Thank you – I read this a lot from work, so I do not want my cowrkers hearing voices from my playpen…….. I don’t want anyone thinking I am possessed.
I wanted to shut her up as well, but can’t get my dick thru the screen and into her mouth!
LoL – Fred, I just read this. Man, I had this image in my mind of some guy with a stiffy frantically trying to copulate with his monitor. Oh, shit, there it is again….lmao.
I will have to say that it has been a while sinse we’ve had a POS that’s either cute or hot…..
It’s been a while since the wife has taken care of me again, so Jodi’s looking good again,,,,,
Max, pleeeeeease look at the links I found, HAHAHAHA!!! So funny!!! I think they belong to “tms” He uses the same name for all his blogs and sites…
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/thatsmystapler
twitter.com/thatsmystapler
thatsmystapler.livejournal.com/profile
thatsmystapler.blogspot.com/
digg.com/users/thatsmystapler
http://www.bloglines.com/public/thatsmystapler
I would go on, but I think that is enough
I remember watching this on 48 hours Mystery or one of those shows a while ago.
When I first started watching and Jodi was narrating the story– and believe me I am ashamed to admit this– but I thought she was innocent. She had such an innocent voice; she sounded so small and broken (maybe I’m mistaken about that–it has been a while since I watched it–could have been another reason). She was so well spoken. I have been here long enough to know that is no excuse to think someone is innocent–I’ll just chalk that lapse in judgment to wanting to believe; kinda like a man WANTS to believe the beautiful voice at the end of the phone sex line matches the body it belongs to?
Anyways; after she talked for a little bit; the tables were turning and I was feeling better about her actually having done it. She was so sure of herself….too sure probably. Then when Travis’ friends started talking I was absolutely positive. She has something completely wrong in her noggin.
Now, Im pretty sure I watched this about 2 months ago or so–has anything happened in the case recently? Has she been sentenced?
Her trial is scheduled to begin 02-02-2010 Min. That 48 hours episode is actually available in it’s entirety on the CBS website. I’ve been thinking about embedding it or linking to it. I think the link is the way to go – we don’t need another Autoplay video on the site.
Keep in mind that she is in sales. Sales is acting. To make a good living at it, you have to be able to fake it until you make it. So if she is guilty, you can count on her putting those skills to use here.
Excellent point. To be successful in sales, you really do need to have a certain quality, and that quality is not always consistent with straight honesty.
But, unlike the other case I am really involved in reading about right now (Castillo and Tkchik) I can still think of ways that this girl could be innocent. The other case is solid in my mind – one person confessed, and the other has no possible excuse for faking a kidnapping 3 days later without being involved, but this case just has a tiny bit of wiggle room with the things that we know about the case. I hope if she is guilty, that wiggle room is cleared up by the evidence.
When it all comes down to it, I still believe that it is better to let a guilty person walk than to incarcerate an innocent person. With today’s technology, we should have irrefutable proof that a person committed a crime, and not just use their personality flaws to condemn them. (EXCEPT in the case of child sex offenses. The nature of the crime often makes it virtually impossible to have irrefutable evidence/reliable witnesses, and because of that a suspect’s actions, behaviors and proximity need to be weighed heavily.)
I always think back to the Kevin Fox case. In a nutshell, his daughter Riley was kidnapped, molested, and killed. He was manipulated into confessing (it’s a long story), but recanted. But it was too late. He was basically on the death march to hell (including being raped numerous times in jail), when evidence overlooked by the authorities exonerated him. (Here is a good synopsis of the case http://surftofind.com/fox). This is what really freaks me out. Of course these two cases are totally different, but as in this case, there was a very slim, and very improbable possibility that Kevin was innocent. But you can BET if he went on trial, he would never EVER have been exonerated. Ever.
I know that there are a lot of stones thrown in the basket on the other side of this girl’s scales, but until we know all the facts, it’s impossible to decide.
Sorry I got so far off track, but I keep thinking about this case for some reason.
I agree with you about it is better to let a guilty person walk than imprison an innocent person, especially in a case like this. IF she did do it, this was a crime of passion. And statistics have shown that passion killings are less likely to happen again. So if it can’t be determined if she is guilty or not, is she likely to remain a threat to society if let go? Probably not. That is not to say she shouldn’t punished if her guilt is established.
If this troll, thatsmystapler, is supporting Jodi Arias, then I MUST be wrong. FRY HER!
(OK- I am just kidding, but that’s definitely another stone in her basket.)
Here is where the “he was shot in the face” information comes from. I believed him to be shot in the face too, after reading this.
http://www.themorningstarr.co.uk/2008/09/12/the-myspace-murderess/
Thanks Mitzi =) The big question is, was he shot first or after he was stabbed? This article does have one really interesting bit – the pictures of him dead were taken several hours after the playboy shots of her – not minutes.
“Pictures on the memory card showed Jodi Ann Arias posing naked and provocatively on Mr Alexander’s bed at around 13:40hrs on the afternoon of June 4th. Later pictures show Mr Alexander naked in the shower at 17:22hrs and at 17:30hrs the photos show Mr Alexander bleeding to death on his bathroom floor.”
I was under the impression that they were taken minutes apart.
This is my first post here so if I suck it’s your fault… or something.
I saw this on 48 Hours just the other day and, trying to spot obvious signs of deception (it’s what I do for fun besides cliff-diving, building up my 18 inch guns and remaining generally aloof to all the ladies that adore me and my windswept, rugged good looks) and her body language, to me, relayed very little. It’s the facts that speak loudly with Jodi–that and the fact she is so ridiculously emotionally detached, speaking as though she’s remembering a lovely dinner conversation she had rather than supposedly witnessing her “friend’s” brutal murder… or part thereof. Just from that show and her myspace here’s what I get from her:
Bullshit. Why? Because:
1) Early in the show she says she saw two OTHER INDIVDUALS in black. In ALL black. This isn’t how she speaks of anyone else. Not as “individuals”–it’s almost like a rehearsal for “trial speak”. So she sees a dude and a chick all in black then later in the show she refers to one of them having BLUE jeans. What?
2) Who dresses in black with ski-masks or balaclavas to do a “job” in broad daylight?
3) She qualifies picking up her handbag or purse or whatever by saying something akin to “which was right there at that point.” Who picks up their handbag after having someone put a gun to your head, pull the trigger and it not go off? Most people would be utterly panic stricken and, in escaping, wouldn’t have the wherewithal to have even considered grabbing personal belongings before getting the hell away fro two people who just made the decision to kill them and actually attempted it. She also loses the chronology ogf the tale and after saying she ran out the door and didn’t look back backtracks and says she pushed past the guy to make good her escape. Usually people telling the truth don’t need to do this as the story flows chronologically anyway.
3) Consider her story from the vantage point of the intruders. Why would they start taking photos only to throw the camera in the waashing machine along wit hthe memory card? Why would they feel any need to wash bedding? Why would they continue to play around doing this for what must amount to a significant amount of time when someone’s just escaped them? For all they know the cops will be arriving any minute and they need to get the hell out ASAP. No, instead, we’ll do all this tomfoolery for no reason in particular! Makes sense.
4) I’ve noticed some comments about the improbability of her overwhelming Travis. The detective in charge of the case stated on 48 Hours that he was shot first–in the face– thus incapacitating him. Then she can carve him up with no real threat of him overwhelming her.
5) She says she escaped and just drove and drove forever until she was in the desert. Then later she calls Travis twice and only gets voicemail. It would be interesting to hear what she says in her messages if she in fact left any. But why would she do that? She said early in the piece that she thought they were there to kill him so even upon escaping and not calling for help and so on she should know he’s dead. This was a lame attempt to establish the ‘fact’ that she wasn’t there (same as not leaving her purse behind or any of her DNA on the bedding).
6) How many people wrongfully arrested for murder would say such a thing as “If I’m found guilty I’d rather get the death sentence than live in here the rest of my life”? It’s just not the sort of thing you would expect someone innocent to say at all.
7) She lied to her friends about how her fingers were injured. She lied to the cops saying she wasn’t there at all, saying something along the lines of, “I was wise enough to know that admitting to being there would incriminate myself.” Firstly, this establishes she’s deceitful and secondly, she won’t tell the truth if it doesn’t serve her purposes. She basically told us herself.
I had more things to say but I’ve forgotten. (I didn’t hear a sigh of relief there, did I?) By the way, my opening paragraph where I sounded so cocky and full of myself was rubbish. It’s just me being silly as I suspect Travis was on his myspace with his tri-athlete and bicep comments. And the spanish guitar…. or as he calls them, “The strings of love.” He’s just being humourous. That’s my opinion anyway.
So, anyway, I found this place well, a while back now (thanks dneptrovososksosk maniacs) but I popped in here as I was searching for Arias’ nude pics. I thought it would be a given someone would have some somewhere. So, who’s good for it? Eh? Eh? Eh?
(Jesus, that’s a big post)
Nice post. =)
I appreciate the occasional wall of text when it’s full of insight.
Welcome Bathcat.
quote: “This is my first post here so if I suck it’s your fault… or something”. Are you sure you’re not a perp’s family member? That’s the usual mantra – it’s everyone’s fault but the person who did it, lol.
Anyway, your post didn’t suck and thanks for the info regarding him being shot first. That gives it a lot more credibility.
I think she’s pretty. Well-articulate too. But for being locked up on suspicion of murder, the gruesome details of what happened to her ex-boyfriend, and she looks so calm… man, that’s scary. She doesn’t seem bothered by anything. What a SICK PSYCHO BITCH! Give her to the black brothers for a daily gang rape until the end of her sorry-ass life.
I didn’t bother reading through all the comments, but come on.
She says she was there and escaped from some black-clad people.
They say the body was in the room for five days.
Why wouldn’t she have called the cops after she “escaped?!”
Relax folks, give Jodi Ann a chance to take a deep breath and tell what really happened.
Here, let me put the words in her mouth:
“Well you see, there was this lady there and her name was Zaneida Gonzalez…
LOL i have been wondering why Casey Anthonys story isn’t here… zanny the nanny for sure!
Did anyone notice how in the 48 hours mystery episode where she says something along the lines of, “Only Travis, God and myself knows what happened that day”…
oops. she totally forgot to mention the intruders.. Cause if they WERE there.. I think they’d TOTALLY know what happened that day.
Lemme have her…
Heaven & hell are the same place – my bed!
I’ll be in heaven and she’ll be in hell!
Lemme fuck her, cum and go limp, leaving her unsatisfied!
Make her get on top and do all the work…..
Those big lips would keep my cock warm in the winter…
Those hooters wold make nice pillows…..
Hopefully she’s allergic to cats…..
She’s sick, but so is this post.
Seriously, you need to get off the internet and go meet some normal, real-life women. When you’ve reached the point that you’re fantasizing about having sex with child killers, it’s time to take a step back.
Maybe talk to a therapist while you’re at it, too.
Mark, you have to understand Fred. He has a, erm, special sense of humor. He’s not being serious when he writes these things, he’s trying to lighten the mood, because some people make it a big deal to argue about the little things.
He’s not a bad guy, he’s one of the good guys.
wow its obvious she did it what a pshcyotic freak
I’m Edgar; not to be confused with, erectile disfunction…. and, I would like to see a consolidation, of all the piecemeal, accounts, in all the other, websites, including those which are now closed; as in concealed, because, the Havvid, blueblood types ran out of irrelevancies, and, pscho-anal- ytics to spew… and, facts, to evade. This website has been the most informative,but still misses a few points…. With blood, all down the hall, why were there no foot prints in it, or blood and fingerprints on the shower faucets, bedroom door knobs, locks, window, latches, and sills; as well as foot prints on the ground, from locking the bedroom door, from the inside ? The original warrant no doubt justified the interstate legal kidnapping, with sworn statements, which, if now refuted , fit the criteria: “That which is wrong from the beginning, stays wrong,” and, that, “Process stops at its’ first defect…” So… The forensics, evidence, about the combined blood hand print, proves that Jodi didn’t do it… Where’s the gunpowder residue, that proves she fired a gun…??? What about hair, found in the shower drain; hers or someone elses …??? The problem, in the other websites has been, that a slew of blueblooded privileged characters, each claim to be privy to facts, they, feel a need to conceal… Throwing a camera into the washing machine, by a person who is a photographer, to erase a magnetic chip, is, simpleminded… when, all she had to do is take the camera; if he was dead, he wouldn’t talk… I think that before the website, disappears, those of you who care about the facts, should check out: “Police nab California woman, in, Mesa mans’ slaying…and, the others that closed… “My opinion: she left the sex poses, to, rat him out to groupee number nine; pretender to the tiara….who must have been pacing the floor, seething over her lack of importance, while, golden boy, is servicing, another girl, who isn’t his girlfriend, either… and,, touche’ ed, Jodi, by adding the murder scenes… It’s simpleminded to think that Jodi, would go to all the trouble to wash the bedding to prove she wasn’t there, while leaving photo proof of a murder scene, then be dumb enough to say she wasn’t there… knowing that the camera that just took their pictures was still there,with, crime scene photos added… and, being no big deal, lying to the cops, so what if she was there, if she hadn’t yet been told of the murder, and that the same camera which took her pictures also had an addendum; dumb de dumb dumb… Reasonable doubt, gallops, in this, soap opera. Edgrrr…. I say, free Jodi, and lock up the cops….
Cops are not disputing the fact that Jodi’s DNA had a reason to be in the house. She was sleeping with Travis, so it wouldn’t have been unusual for her hair or handprints to be in the house. But the fact of the matter is, she changed her stories multiple times. An innocent person doesn’t need to change any part of their story ever. She showed up at a friend’s house with cuts all over her hands that she couldn’t explain. Sorry, Jodi Arias is guilty as they come.
Could be, but, without pictures of cuts all over her hands, we really, don’t know how many, how deep, or, in what speculative way those cuts got there, and whether or not they were scrapes, called, cuts…. As to the rubber hose, Gestapo interrogation tactics, versus, a little girl… it’s hardly conclusive, that her words, can overrule the proof that she never shot the guy… NO GUN POWDER RESIDUE… And, for your information; cops lie all the time; check this: “Because police officers can lie with impunity, they, therefore do not make credible witnesses….” Why would the other guy, interrogate her, about wounds … and then, construe that into a federal case ??? If he was a friend, why would he try to rat her out to the Gestapo…??? What’s in it for him; the fact that nothing was in it, for him; he didn’t get to, so he got even…??? An innocent person has every reason not to, or to, have a story, trying to understand, the attention, and hysteria all around her… Such trauma; or, drugs, or, fright, might have an affect upon being all over the place, with yet another explanation, so, if we’re going to punish everybody whose story doesn’t please everybody, we’ll need more jails, unless false confessions, like this one you claim to be irrefutable, negate the need for physical evidence, proof; which, you just justified; were excusable, “had a reason to be in the house…” But, her words, prove her guilt, so you claim; why; because nobody should lie, or be inconsistent, with interrogators, bearing down on you…??? I, personally would find it insulting to be interrogated, by condescending jackbooted thugs, and, contemptible, that idiots with 12 I.Q.s would think they could create a conviction out of thin air, just as the think they have, here… Will the Gestapo, petition the governor to unwind the basis for the warrant, now that DNA has proven, she did not fire a gun… and, if they weren’t concealing from the publics’ right to know, the basis for the kidnap at law, scam, they wouldn’t have the opportunity to taint the evidence, like they do, now… Sure, they will, beg the governor for forgiveness; more likely, alter the evidence by adding whatever they can find in the evidence locker; whatwith all that evidence; what the hell, they’ve got enough evidence to justify any arrest for anything… probably got OJs real gloves, in there somewhere… Should we imprison the guy who claimed to have killed Jon Benet Ramsey; his story, was false, also…, or should he just be jailed for scamming a free plane ride…. Let me tell you, that, I personally; check my phone number in her cell phone; talked with her, in person, for over an hour, after she came back to work, and, having known her for ten years, plus, noticed no change in her, and, surely not bandages, all over thesnon existant, wounds, as claimed…as in not an iota of difference, which, looking back, could be construed as a maybe… DNA, allegedly proves that she was there, yet DNA, also disproves her guilt, as to, firing a gun. You can bet that, that, gunshot, was the substantive basis for the two million dollar, interstate kidnap, ransom; so, where’s the validity in continuing this law en-farce-ment, scam, now that the warrant, at best, is fraudulent, from the gitgo…??? Are the governors going to stand up and, unwind the soap opera, for its’ DNA proven defects, yet, accept the DNA evidence, which claims, half, of an analyses… for more fraudulent, Arias Bias….??? Process stops at its’ first defect; how many can you count, so far…??? Why, didn’t someone from Travis’ s job, come and, see what was keeping him, whatwith, them waiting to go on the Cancon trip ? How many reasonable doubts, so far; all to be ignored by a stacked jury…??? Why didn’t the room mates look in on him, and, how do you lock yourself out of a bedroom… by locking the door as you leave…??? And, if you jumped out the window, where are the indentation prints…??? And, why, if you’d bone the dirty deed, would you have, hung around to do the laundry…??? And, what blood or gunpowder residue was found, still present, on the washed bedding…??? And, where, were the blurry pictures in the camera, sequentially, and, who’s to say that the camera, did not still work, after the laundry, to take the final pictures…?? And, why would Jodi, leave the camera, if there was more on it to prove, not only that she was there, but, photographed the crime scene…, to prove that she did it…??? And, if she did all this, and, solved the Gestapos case for them, why now, try to get out of it…? I don’t think the issue should be; is she clever enough to beat such thousand to an iota, odds, but, are the cops, too brain dead to catch the person or persons who did do it…???…!!! And, if the camera time, and, date stamp[?] indicate a sequence, why would she, take the camera to the bed, load up the bedding, with the camera in her hand, then, throw all of it in the washing machine ? Why go to all the trouble to take all the pictures, then, try to destroy the camera, while, being a photographer, knowing that she could remove the insert, and, flush it, or, hide it….??? All the reasonable doubters, raise your, I.Q.s….. Edgar… Stalag Skew at Y-RICO, Ahnolds’ Kali Fornia…
you are asking all these “why would she do that” questions. Hmmm. Because she was a jealous psycho who didn’t think far enough ahead to at least dream up a solid ALIBI?
As far as reasonable doubt, it is possible that Jodi could have commisioned some people to shake Travis up a little for dumping her. I mean, she had been displaying crazy behavior and her myspace is basically a copy of everything Travis was into. Maybe she asked some people to scare him and it went too far, and once he was dead she was in fear of her own life. Who knows.
Moop,
I commend you for having the actual patience and wear with all to read that mess of letters that Edgar typed.
Please people….run-on sentences suck, and paragraphs are your friend. Use accordingly.
I agree Maelstrom, but I want to add that a comma is a HORRIBLE thing to use inappropriately, and to overuse them on such a large scale is worse.
A comma indicates a pause in the written word, and my brain is still all shook up after reading Edgars start and stop comment.
My english teacher in high school once gave us a comma test, did you know there are only 8 instances where a comma should be used? He used to tell us that this grammatical pause is way overused, and sometimes its better to not use any at all than to use an inordinate amount.
So I guess my point is–lay off the commas unless its mandatory!
I concur min_duhh. Certainly I would never claim to be smarter than anyone here, though I might have a bit more education. Which actually means very little considering some of thee stupidest people I ever met graduated from college like myself. But this stuff is just basic knowledge, and it irks me beyond belief when people can not write well.
I hope that doesn’t sound elitist….but it literally drives me up the wall.
I have to agree, I am not trying to sound smarter than anyone. I will be the first to admit that I am not. I do, however, believe that making things clear and to the point makes a point better than rambling on and on with the most insane babble known to man.
It only took me 6 hours and a migraine to wade through it all!
Moop,
It’s kind of a shame too, because Edgar might have had typed something worth reading. But honestly, one glance at his HUGE blob of letters and I had an instant headache. I seriously could not even attempt to read it.
Only Hemingway should be allowed to write such long sentences….ever read The Old Man and the Sea ? Jesus…the sentences go on for pages it seems.
Anyways, good job. You must have more patience than me. Not to mention better eye sight.
So your basic argument is all cops are liars and too stupid to catch the real killers, so they’re framing Jodi Arias? That’s it? And your proof is no gun powder residue on Jodi and none of her DNA on the Gun – you do realize she had a minimum of 5 days to clean up any evidence before Travis Alexander’s body was even discovered, don’t you? Damn, boy, you’re not very good at this. No wonder you run you sentences together and use punctuation any way you feel like using it. If you wrote legible and understandable text, people would realize right off the bat that you’re not that bright.
Jodi took those pictures of the crime scene because she wanted to taunt Travis while he slowly bled to death, and I’m sure she never thought the camera’s memory chip would survive a run through the washing machine. Oh yeah, and screw the DNA on the gun – Jodi’s palm print was on the wall of the room IN TRAVIS’ BLOOD. Explain that one away, super genius.
Ten four, for the dedication, troops….,,,,,,,…. don’t waste the punctuations; there’re plenty to go around…… Commas,,,,, for me, are pauselets,,, just as my creation of word melds,,, are… to allow time for all the spongebob squarepants, to sop up some reasonable doubt. Do note, how, your English, observations, gave you all, the only thing you are interested in; ARIAS BIAS…. as,,,, within all the agony of reading my unbiased observations, the only excuse youse guys could come up with are, Breaches of English,,, format…. and, that,,,, dear readers,,,, is what gave you the headaches…. So far,,, one genius couldn’t find, in two textbooks,,, a common practice of checking blood for gunpowder residue,,, because,,, there is no such practice; ie., nobody ever thought of,,, that… Whoop de do,,, and,,, back in 02,,, they never heard of DNA analyses,,, either,,, so there was no concern, that, a forensics analyses, did conceal,,, the non evidence,,, by not analyzing the sample at all,,, but,,, simply,,, to seek proof of mixed blood,,, which, ironically enough, the Gestapo, just knew they’d find… With all this carnage, and a hall smeared with blood, and no footprints in that blood, where and why would they analyze some blood; was golden boys’ blood really that blue.. if not,,,to do exactly what the Gestapo,,, ordered them to do; prove their non case for them…so as to render a deliberately Arias Biased, report. Is this not,,, perjury,,, of the record… and,,, guilt by omission…??? Also, that genius; see,,, other websites, blogs,,, for,,, clarification; suggested that a first year lie-student,,, be consulted for the quasilegal,,, warped,,, twisted,,, convoluted,,, and,,, sleazed at law, definitions, learned in, lying, at law, despite English definitions, knowing that the law can have no meaning, without the actual definition of the words,,, written,,, therein… in English; to indicate that, right up front; first year; lie students are being taught how to convolute the law, by twisting the meaning of words,,, so,,, let’s stay on your point, as to all, that, youse guys got out of taking six hours to get a headache over my because of my last observations… discrepancies, conflicting with what your grade school teachers, programmed you with…therefore,,, how are your English lessons,,, holding up,,, now…??? Of, course, you can all sleaze onto some other evasive, and irrelevant quasilegal tangents, so as to evade the lynch mob motif of all you fried brain,,,, Azinines. While contemplating your navels, you might note just how inept, and, criminal, these analyzers, are, and, ask yourselves why, the perpetuation of the secret non facts, leaked by the Gestapo, and, the bluebloods, who’ve confessed in other sites, that, they are concealing various and alleged facts, of this case… these, wannabe elites, who’ve elected themselves, accessories after the fact… by leaking, hints that all these,,, imaginary facts,,, prove, Jodis’ guilt, beyond any doubt… much less,,, reasonable,,, doubt… Not even a crumb of evidence, that could point to a setup, and, premeditated murder, by someone else….??? No footprints in the hall full of blood…??? No footprints by another usee, who wasn’t his girlfriend, either; while pacing outside,,, peeking in the windows, or, cutting telephone wires, as other usees, allegedly,,, did…??? “We bluebloods must learn to expect that sort of thing; pretty as we are… living here in mucky muck acres, in our 4500 square foot- family home- house, where nothing like this ever happens…” No analyses of all the compounds,,, in the blood,,, a spiked drink, Ecstacy; date rape, drug, Acid, Cocaine, Crack, or, Weed… something to account for,,, “if I did it,” and,,, of course, analyses of the devout religionists’,,,,,,, [who's saving himself for marriage; the steady procession of usees don't count,,,,, because, you see they're just, chattel; not real people at all... yet brother Steven, gets hung up on the "Fornication",,,, concept...],,,,,,, golden idols’ blood analyses, to show the absence of,,, a spiked drink; Ecstasy; date rape drug, Acid, Cocaine, Crack, weed,,, etcetera…whatever…??? With all this allegedly compelling irrefutable, concealed, “evidence,” why, the need to nitpick someones’ words, while pressure cooking her brains, with imprisonment, starvation, and, slander? Who cares what she says; about, her after the fact, analyses, of how; she ended up in the other victims’ soap opera; speculating, out loud, interviews, and, how many various scenarios, she, can imagine… while, such trauma, has left her detached from this Alice in wonderland, soap opera…to, try on; have to do with the price of eggs,,, in,,, China…??? Get a grip, youse guys; drop and give me a hundred, then, go clean the latrine…. you’re an embarassment to any self loathing, Gestapo… Pig Heil…. leave sleeping dogs; Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Cheney, Pol Pot, Snot team, Jackbooted Thugs; slithering, under color of law; beating, electrocuting, shocking, murdering, etcetera, lie; Edgrrr… Stalag Skew, at Y-RICO, where, “For Historical Purposes,” the Japenese Concentration Camp, is being rebuilt, and the spot where the last, got out of jail free, hanging,,, by, lynch mob,,,accusee…. in Ahnolds’ Gulag, Kali Fornia,,, is proposed,,, to get a monument,,, as a warning of what your Gestapo, can do to you… so, ask what you can do for your Gestapo; ask not for what your Gestapo can do for you…they got a lot of boots for youse guys to lick… Slither,,, to it… Sure hope you get debriefed/deprogrammed, soon,,, and, consider : There but for the criminality of “Authority,” go,,, you…. Free Jodi; jail 4 Judges… Edgrrr…
you need help too
Use of grammar and punctuation makes smart people look like smart people. You look like, well, a dumbass. You could have the best intentions, the most complete, intelligent and accurate information, but no one will ever care because you don’t care enough to communicate intelligently.
If you don’t have enough self respect to write your thoughts in a way anyone else can understand, why should anyone respect you enough to read it?
This chick is hot! does anyone know where the nude pictures are?
Creep.
All you English Majors…. would let someone face a capital crime, and, aid and abet a crooked system, because, you can find fault with my writing… Nice of me to give you a loophole to crawl through, on your way back to the Kremlin. Now, y’all be good little Communists, you hear…. It’s apparently, intelligent enough to negate your, Arias Bias, isn’t it.? Anyone with a substantive argument, for or against; what are you a man or a mouse; squeek up…. Edgrrr….
Troll
John pain, you are one sick M F you need help.Jodi wouldn’t look twice at you.
VCBecky, go back to school. you must have blurred vision or no savy nada….Edgar you really must simmmmpife it 4 these AZeeee.
Pop aka Edgar…
Quit trolling, you spastic malcontent. Your broke ass AOL lingo gives you away each and every time.
Fucking rookie.
Now you’re destroying another language. Aren’t you a clever little idiot!
Yes I did get blurred vision, about 2 seconds into your wall of commas. I’m glad I stopped trying, because it’s obvious to me you have noting intelligent or useful to contribute. My grammar, syntax and punctuation aren’t perfect, but my posts aren’t so unintelligible that they’re an insult to the reader. You’re not even trying, so why should we?
Bye now!
Pop aka Edgar-time to take your meds and go quietly away until they take effect and you become coherent.
Procedure over principle; not even… Substance over form, trumps your simpleminded wimpering, every time; doesn’t it ??? As for hiding behind an alias, get real; your approval, of the truth, is not required. Refute any paragraph, sentence, or word, with a sensible argument, if, you can. Or, whine because your third grade teacher told you that the use of punctuation, can be used to, overrule, reasonable doubt… Youse guys are a deck full of jokers…. Edgrrr… my only, “Alias.”
“Substance over form” Hmmm. Don’t think that applies here, Edgrrr my boy. See, when the ‘form’ is a huge pile of flaming caca, and the ’substance’ is microscopic and buried somewhere inside the huge pile of flaming caca, it’s simply not worth the effort to find it.
You lose by virtue of being an unintelligible waste of time. Please, you and “POP”, don’t breed. We don’t need any more stories on PYSIH.
maelstorm,vcbecky,ferrets;none of you would make a pimple on Jodi’s ass, whether she did it or not. So get out of the corner and stop playing with yourself..
And who the fuck are you, big mouth? God’s gift the the fairer sex? Yeah right. Why do you think that being rejected by a card carrying psychopath would be a bad thing? I guess Jodi must be your kind of woman, eh POP? Well, good luck with that bud. Maybe I’ll get to write a story about you some day.
Jesus, what happened today? Did one of the visitors to the locked ward forget their laptop when the left the mental hospital after visiting hours ended? Between POP here and EdgarDongdicker, it’s been especially crazy at the old blog. Well, one thing’s for sure, lunatics are never boring.
good god, don’t get me mixed up with Edgar. I steer my own boat. am I talking over your head again?
I doubt there is any more room for pimples on that murderess’ ass, sweetie. The prison guards are going to enjoy playing ‘Connect the dots” when they bend her over. Somehow I doubt they’ll use a Sharpie.
“Get out of the corner and stop playing with yourself…”? Are you serious with that? What sad, preschool sandbox have you been living in? If you’re going to attempt to insult, at least make a little effort beyond that tripe. You’re humiliating yourself, troll.
Not worth the time. But I think you have heard that a lot in life. Enjoy coming up with new and creative (lol) insults (lol). You’ll just be talking to yourself at that point.
Oh I hope that EdgarLongenecker and POP aren’t gone vcbecky. They’re great. I ask you, is there anything that is more amusing than watching guys who think they are much, much smarter than they actually are try to engage in a battle of wits? Especially someone like EdgarSchlongllicker – he seems to think he’s Wyle E. Coyote, Super Genius, while to others he appears more like Daffy Duck. Obviously he has some kind of personal stake in whether or not Jodi Arias is Guilty or not. Whether he’s a family member or just one of Jodi’s groupies is unclear – he sounds foolish enough to be either.
Oh how silly of me! Where is my sportsmanship? I happen to have an extra anvil on-hand…
Youse guyzzz from AZZZZZ… Still waiting to hear one admission that the socalled DNA anal-yses, is fraudulent, for not mentioning that Jodi never fired a gun, and the socalled anal-yses, never compared one blood sample to the other, for gunpowder residue, or, drug, differential… Address this, if you can,,,,,,, and, don’t waste my commas…. and, while you’re at it, explain how the interstate kidnap at law is valid, with the anal-yses now proven to be halfast… Edgrrr….
Translation – FNURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!11!!11oneone
You Nobel Laureates, can all concur now, with Viet Cong, Beckys’ confession, whatwith such, a profound, evasion…. I, rest my case… that is, until I see another such simplemindedness, trying to slither at law, past…. Edgar….
I haven’t seen this much cohesiveness in a troll post since the Viagara ad that slipped past my spam filter.
This guy’s fucking hysterical Jason. He’s got to be a troll, or else he’s crazy as hell. I’d love to know what ol’ Edgrr sees in those ink blots the doctor shows him.
I have a love hate relationship with the works of Faulkner, but this stream of consciousness reminds me of something else… Something like a grammatically incorrect attempt by a teenager to ape Naked Lunch.
OH my goodness, I figured out who you are.
You’re William Shatner, aren’t you! Don’t lie to me, “Edgrrrr”! I’d recognize that vocal inflection anywhere! You really had me thinking you were just another inarticulate, vacuous troll with delusions of grandeur! Wanna know what gave you away? The phrase “whatwith such, a profound, evasion…. I, rest my case”! TOTAL SHATNER.
Willie, I gotta tell you I loved your rendition of ‘Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds’, man. It really got to me where it counts, ya know? But honestly, your duet with Henry Rollins is my absolute favorite. “I Can’t Get Behind That” is an American Classic! Keep it up, William! You’re an ARTIST!
That has to be the hardest I’ve ever laughed on here. Oh my stars, BRILLIANT.
Hehe! Why thank you!
If you go back and attempt to read Professor Edgrrr’s posts with a Shatner’esque bent, you might get a laugh hernia. I did that last night and nearly wet myself with Lol!
…. Denny Crane…. Edgar has only one alias,,,,, Edgrrr… Captain Kirk, has many…..
Wait, you’re telling me you’re NOT Shatner?
Oh.
Well then FUCK YOU, Troll.
Good gravy Edgar, who the hell let you out of your gimp box and gave you permission to speak ?
Honestly, trying to make sense of your jibberish is like trying to breathe soup.
Be gone, oh mentally challenged one. Be gone.
Every time I see the name “Edgar” all I can think about is…
“Edgar, what on earth was that?
Sugar.
I’ve never seen sugar do that.
Give me sugar.
In water.
More.
More.
Your skin is hanging off your bones.
Oh, yeah.
Is that better?”
Probably our friend Edgar was overcome by alien bugs or something.
Just a thought.
What happend is a tragedy. But none of us can say what really happend. Only Jodi, Travis and God really know. And only God can judge wether she goes to heaven or hell. We’re not the judge. All we can do is speculate and express our opinions. My heart goes out to both families, what happend was horrific. May God ease the hearts of all involed and put them at peace.
I like the satisfaction of judging people before God gets around to it. Makes the time just fly by!
Only Jodi, Travis, and God know what happened huh?
Well, what about the people who broke into the house and supposedly committed the crime. Do they know too? Or is it just Jodi, Travis, and God?
That statement there goes to show that you don’t believe the story of an intruder–a little parapraxis there huh?
And…. Don’t youse guys think that it’s time to turn the tables on your Manchurian candidates’ programming, and, quit spinning your wheels, over this Travis Tragedy and Arias Bias, soap opera…??? Isn’t the partyline propaganda, getting worn out; with not one of you willing to question the bogus facts ??? Check out the Michael Jackson bloodtest for guidance, with all they found. Where’s the DNA/ blood test for this soap opera ??? Maybe you should heed JGirls’ words…. and, Moop, now that you have Jodi already convicted, in your mind; prove, then, why she did it. That shouldn’t take a rocket scientist, to help you explain what you believe you think, and what you think you believe. They’ve been apart , before; on again, off again. Drug, induced, attempted murder, difference, this time…a drug cocktail, to get her off his back, so he wouldn’t have to be ashamed of this relationship, anymore; whatwith, being a blue blood, and, all, and a devout professional virgin…??? And, if that’s the case, and she thought she was going out, then, wouldn’t that oncoming stupor, make her take him with her, with a truckload of diminished capacity, justification ? Looking for a reason for all the factless convictions and the Arias Bias, flu, you all are treasuring…. If she did it out of extreme jealousy, and malice, aforethought, why then didn’t she first punish him by doing the new usee/girlfriend, first… and, make him watch ? She could have just waited, until the new usee showed up, couldn’t she…? Or, did, the other un-girlfriend show up, to, get even… just as Jodi, said; with, help, and, what quarrel did they really have with Jodi; considering that she too was just something to use and, discard…, or maybe Jodi, or another, or, a dozen other usees simply gang up and put an end to it, once and for all… with, more than one knife wielder…? Edgar…
Lol..here is what I read in yet another one of your literary abominations Edgar…
Michael Jackson, DNA, rocket science, virgins and the flu.
Jesus god man, you’re all sorts of crazy, aren’t you ?
Also, please sober up before you attempt to stun us with your utterly laughable prose.
Thanks.
Look Edgar…
I’ve already explained the reasons why I believe she is guilty. I don’t have an interest in exploring conspiracy theory. I’ve written you off as a troll. Now please resume your internet search to find naked pics of Jodi Arias and write her some fan mail.
Prose-ac rules, doesn’t it…why be bothered with proving even one accusation…? Morons rule…. you wish… even a brain dead judge wouldn’t buy in to you’alls’ nonsense…. fortunately… now, go back to your complacency based comas, you hear…. Edgrrr….
From dictionary.com
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DELUSIONS
de?lu?sion
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–noun
1. an act or instance of deluding.
2. the state of being deluded.
3. a false belief or opinion.
Synonyms:
1. deception. See illusion.
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OF
of
1??/?v, ?v; unstressed ?v or, especially before consonants, ?/
–preposition
1. (used to indicate distance or direction from, separation, deprivation, etc.): within a mile of the church; south of Omaha; to be robbed of one’s money.
2. (used to indicate derivation, origin, or source): a man of good family; the plays of Shakespeare; a piece of cake.
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GRANDEUR
gran?deur
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–noun
1. the quality or state of being impressive or awesome: the grandeur of the Rocky Mountains.
2. the quality or state of being lofty or elevated in conception or treatment: the grandeur of a prose style.
“Delusions of grandeur,” anything to evade the facts. Be sure to carry that banner into the courtroom, and, see who; Jodi, or, the brain dead judge, blinks first… Edgrrr…
Hard to believe that all the lynch mobsters have slithered back under their At Law, books…. ya gotta wonder why they’ve tried so hard to convict Jodi, without a trial; ie, charade at law, even with the coming, stacked jury, and, brain dead judge… Didn,t I mention the fraudulent, blood test, whatwith, no gunpowder residue, in, or on the blood, proving that the accused did not fire a gun… but, don’t let me confuse y’all with facts… so… since she didn’t, then, who did; and what, reasonable doubt, is the Gestapo sitting on, that they have uncovered, in this past year, that, the organized crime at law, cabal, must conceal, to keep from getting sued, for their rush to judgement…??? I contacted Gerry Spence, the lawyer, about this, but, I guess he never got the message, or, couldn’t be bothered…. and, I don’t see all those Mormon lieyers, lining up to do their duty; while tapdancing, at, law…Edgar…
Translation:
Blah, blah, [words that aren't cohesively strung together, so they can't even be called English], blah blah, framed, blah, blah, [lack of argument], blah, blah, [verbal masturbation], blah, blah, [lies about actual communication that matters], blah, blah…
Or, gee whiz Eddy, maybe Gerry Spence didn’t want to be associated with a sociopathic murderer. Comon Edgar, tell us what your relationship to Jodi is. Are you family, friend, or groupie? And what’s up with the way you write? Do you speak like that too. I bet you don’t have many friends, do you? That’s hard to understand, given your gentle, considerate personality.
Jason, you need a brain scan,to fine out why you can’t understand verbage.
Moop, you already brain dead, as isVCBecky
Verbiage
Brain scan is fine.
There are so many things wrong with that comment; and, its only like 20 words…..
You’re telling someone else they need a brain scan, yet, had an epic fail while doing so.
And you need to find out who stole your intelligence big mouth, since the only thing you’ve been able to add to this thread is childish insults. It’s been my experience that guys like you a generally cowards who are afraid to engage anyone in any type of a public debate.
My favorite part is… I actually had a brain scan recently, and I’m fine.
I see the natives are restless… the jackboot polish must be laced with narcotics, to keep these brainiacs, hanging on so tight to nothing, and, licking all those Gesrapo, boots… Still no facts from the peanut gallery… If at first you can’t think, try, try, try, again… you might impress each other, with your “who can be the most corrupt,” contest… and, one might note that it’s daylight; shouldn’t all you vampires be back in your boxes…???….. Edgar….
Bloody hand print, timestamped photos, and she changed her story and you still can’t believe she did it?
Jason’s right. The timestamp on the photographs, Jodi’s palm print on the wall of the room in Travis Alexander’s blood, and her constantly changing story, plus her lies about where she was in the days before, during and after the murder, will convict her as sure as I’m sitting here. It’ll be extra special when I get to post the update the day she IS convicted, because I’ll be thinking of you and POP when I do it. I may even dedicate it to you two schmucks. Won’t that be nice?
Edgar,
Do you seriously talk like you write?
All those damn pauses you throw in your spiels mess with my head. I try to read what everyone writes here but seriously I get an upset stomach when I see your name. There is rarely, if ever, a well thought out statement written in your diatribes. I can’t follow anything you say and if you are making valid points that might help someone think differently of Jodi and her case, you’re fending them off with your blatant disregard of intelligent communication. Honestly you’re hurting her public opinion here more than you’re helping it.
Oh and if you do speak like you write, I would punch you in the mouth to make you shut up. (Im not violent, but really would any of you be able to listen for longer than 30 seconds?)
I have not seen this story until now, and the picture makes me nauseous. She looks…umm.. weirdly happy whilst grabbing his throat. Eww. He looks, lost, sad, scared
not right.
Is that Edgrrr fucknut still posting? Why are the crazies always so tenacious? You really sound like a parody of a nutty homeless man who’s channeling William Shatner as he guzzles his MadDog. It’s absolutely uncanny. I’d say you should pursue it as a career because you shouldn’t waste such talent, but I can’t imagine who would want to pay you for being such a boob.
And “POP”? WHOOO boy! Seems like you memorized “Everything I Ever Needed To Know About Argument I Learned In Kindergarten”. Do you still shoot spit-wads at people in diners? Read my next word very carefully – Puberty. Look it up, then go out and FIND IT BECAUSE IT MISSED YOUR BRAIN! GO, MAN! GO GO GO!
thanks Jason the Izzzz have it
VCBeckey we know what kind of a person you are by your nasty words.
I personally know Jodi and she dose not talk like that.
you are really a low life
Ahhh, now we’re getting somewhere. You personally know Jodi? I don’t care how that lying bitch speaks. She’s a murderer, a stalker and a nutjob. No wonder she attracts people like you.
That’s great POP – Jodi’s a killer, but at least she doesn’t have a potty mouth.
vcbecky cusses a bit, but judging by the many comment she has left on this website, she has a strong set of moral values – I’ll take her any day of the week, and twice on Sunday
You judge people by how they look, and how they front themselves. You blind yourself to the obvious, and judge us for not going along with your program. That makes you a fool, and no one cares what a fool thinks about them.
Twice on Sundays? Wow. I better shave! HAH! /hug!
And, youse guys can’t comprehend the steroid freak Gestapo, bearing down on a 110 pound girl, that could make her try on excuses for their behavior, until she finds one scenario, that , unlike you super glue fanatics, stuck on irrelevancies, fits, the authoritative, obsession…??? The truth of the matter is, that, she shouldn’t have let them intimidate her in the first place, and, if they hadn’t Bogarted her, with her useless, pubic pretender, lieyer, she wouldn’t have said anything to these halfast morons at law; much less, tried out various scenarios, trying to understand, their hysteria… If ten people showed up and confessed, today… how many would be found guilty ; whatwith your simpleminded, edict that her words, overrule the physical, evidence…? Did I mention, again… no gunpowder residue in the blood, proving that she did not fire a gun… and, an incomprehensive, blood analyses, to see if she was drugged; just in case Golden Boy, motivational, guru, expert, used some drugs, to get his point across; ie., why, after 27 years, here on Mars… she has never done anything like this, before, so, why so, now…??? As to the leaks of what rations of propaganda, the Gestapo, passes out, at their convenience, why, no comment about criticism of their criminal enterprising, under color of law, and, excuse for producing a halfast conclusion, regarding the Arias Bias, alleged, blood analyses…??? Why no invalidation of the original, excuse for the interstate kidnapping, at law…??? Now, of course, all you armchair philosophers, may blather your non answers, again…. Enjoy, while Bill and I, smoke our cigars out here on the balcony… Denny Crane…. Edgar… as in Edgrrr….
We stopped pointing out the flaws in you argument because a: Jason, Mazzi, and I are tired of doing it over and over. and, most importantly, b: speaking only for myself, I’ve stopped taking you seriously. You’re scenario involves nothing but speculation and rumor, you offer no facts or legitimate sources to back up any of your claims, and you insult anyone who challenges you. If you’re an example of the kind of people who are supporting Jodi Arias, she’s in even deeper trouble than I thought. I hope for her sake you’re not advising her on legal matters concerning her murder trial – As convinced as I am of her guilt, I still want her to get a fair trial. Unlike people like you Edgar, I know that there’s always a chance I could be wrong,. so I always want everyone’s trial to be as fair and on the level as possible.
I haven’t really weighed in much on this thread lately, because A) I am back in school, and have little time; and B) because I still am not convinced that Jodi is guilty. As I have stated all along, there are actually reasonable (if unlikely) explanations for most of the known evidence.
HOWEVER – the current “batch” of troll posters (or individual with aliases) appear to be retarded. Their (his) posts are not backed by reality and the few pertinent facts that they (he) toss in the equation are garbled and twisted into irrelevance.
It makes no difference that Jodi never did anything like this before. (Every criminal has a first time, right?) It makes no difference how Jodi could have “punished” Travis without killing him. (There are always alternatives). It makes no difference if there was no gunpowder residue on her hands 5 days later. (It does go away). These things are strawmen arguments. And, it makes no difference how Travis treated her. We don’t blame the victim – that is the enabler’s way to approach criminal behavior.
These (this) guys are actually harmful to the process of looking at all sides of the case. If these arguments are the best they (he) can come up with, then it looks pretty bad for Jodi.
she could have just fucked a guy-film it and send travis the video and pics for “revenge” and not kill him- and i saw the 48 hours episode and all the while i was thinking…”really?..that guy”??
And come over to his house, and dipped her hand in his blood, put it on the wall, grabbed all of his sheets and laundered them, after locking his corpse in his bedroom and leaving.
Yeah… she could have also had sex with this “other guy” in his bedroom.
Just wow.
poor becky, apparentley never made it out of kendergarten.
we know what kind of people you attract. GO to church and listen.
Wow you’re… really terrible. Just overall, really terrible. In every possible observable way you’re… terrible.
Yeesh.
Why is it that every one of your simpleminded arguments contains a contradiction..? “We don’t blame the victim,” but, who gets to say who the initial victim is in this soap opera ? “And, they didn’t find any gunpowder residue, on her hands; five days later…” of course, in keeping with the writers’ confession of what he accuses others of; “pertinent facts, garbled into irrelevancy;” a contradiction as well… including the initial revelation that he’s not sure Jodi is guilty, to begin with. “Reasonable explanations for the known evidence”… right; known by who; the Gestapo who strategically leaked it, and, called it evidence, or, those of you, duped into believing the partyline propaganda ? And, let’s not launder the lack of gunpowder residue, by saying that someone washes their hands five days later; when my statement, and the Gestapo oversight, is that there was no gunpowder residue reported in the blood analyses…, and, we don’t expect the samples to walk to the faucet and wash out that nonexistent evidence, do we…? We surely can see the Gestapo, planting some, now, though, can’t we…? What bedroom doors, lock, behind you, after you walk out…? How does having sex with Travis, filming it, and, sending it to Travis, get even with him…? “It makes no difference that Jodi, never did this before,” or since, thankyou… is that so; pertaining to her credibility…? It makes no difference how Travis treated her; whatwith being a successful businessman, residing in blueblood acres… what the hell; a few ecstasy pills, some, other drug cocktail, spiked drink; whatever, are simply as reasonable an explanation as any, if, we’re to believe that she did it; and, to what degree of criminality, would you philosophers think she was guilty of, if, self defense or, drugged without her consent, was at issue…? “Strawman arguments”… sure, if you’re duped into believing that your schizophrenia, actually makes you two people; your further evidence of contradictory anal-yses… as in your blog. I’d say that you’ve surely acknowledged Reasonable Doubt; my job is done… but, I’ll keep an eye on all you philosophical nitwits, just to make sure you don’t forget that… “Reasonable, if, unlikely; all the known evidence…” there’s a mouthful of regurgitated simplemindedness; “unlikely,” being the controlling criteria… yet, irrelevant to the Gestapo, kidnapping another States’ citizen, without a fact being published, regarding the publics’ right to know, ergo, reasonable doubt… So, spare us all the vague and indifferent, and therefore Unconstitutional, non arguments; pick one sentence or paragraph, counter it, if, you think you can; then, move onto the next actual, gripe, if, you actually have one… thank you… idiots… “Gentle, considerate personality,” while these good little communists are aiding and abetting, the Gestapo, four braindead judges, plus, one fair, but, duped, judge, and two governors, suckered with, now known to be bogus, blood analyses, and, no gunpowder residue, in the blood sample; notwithstanding, the fact that washing your hands in another State, won’t erase gunpowder left on a wall, in another State…or/and, let’s continue twisting the facts; she never shot him until she’d already killed him… bogus evidence, which in a real America, would unwind this entire fraud at law…since when has “kind and considerate,” ever placated a salivating mob of lynch mobsters…??? I, am my own friend, thank you; which is more than I can say about you self loathing toadies of organized crime at law, incorporated… Your witness; try to engage brain, before stepping on your accellerator…. or, is that your tongue….?… Edgrrr… Stalag Skew, Kali Fornia…
1. The majority of gunshot residue is ejected in a cone shaped pattern from the muzzle of the gun.
2. Higher moisture in the air, like from an aerosol of water from a shower head, diffuse the heat and burns made by the powder at a rate somewhere between 1 and 25 times faster than the air involved.
3. 3 of the 4 tests used, test for the presence of lead in the powder, but many ammunition producers today are virtually lead free.
4. The remaining test requires that swabs from the victim be tested for nitrates from unexploded powder. There are efficient removal methods that would allow 5 days of frequent scrubbing with a commercially available substance to remove or mask Nitrate testing or even help to conceal lead.
5. The smaller the caliber of the gun, the smaller the number of granules that could be detected.
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The time line on the bloody hand print may have been before the gunshot. Given that the body was savagely stabbed, his throat was slit, a bullet was fired, and sometime in the middle of all of this, the body was washed, the blood smear could have been before the gun was fired. Since the camera was washed with the bed clothes, the concept that several trips over time to finally execute him is reasonable.
Thumb latches, rather you lock them and pull the door too.
I would if you used sentences, instead I used semi-complete phrases.
“Reasonable Doubt” is not, “beyond the shadow of a doubt.” You can have a shadow of a doubt for anything that you did not witness. A reasonable doubt would require evidence to counter evidence of an informed opinion. Since the bloody hand print was admitted into evidence before the police had a matching imprint of Jodi’s hand, in fact 5 days beforehand, the idea that they had staged a bloody hand print is farcical. Because it took forensics to recover the photos in the camera, it’s unreasonable to think that there’s guilt from the police officers who investigated this case.
Of course, all you good little communists have an evasion for anything. Explain why the blood was not tested for gunpowder residue, despite the claim, that statistical forensics, doesn’t even cover it in their antiquated text books, or that little bullets, emit lesser quantities; duh;…???? The claim that there would be less particles, is an excuse…not to test…??? Also, I already pointed out that according to evasions at law, she must have murdered him first, then shot him, to explain how there might not have been gunpowder residue in the bloods’ alleged analyses, and of course that would negate the previous claim that she shot him to immobilize him, so there’d be no resistance to pecking away with a knife, and, cutting him severely… so, she must have murdered him first, put, a bloody hand print signature on a wall, done the laundry, washed up, then, gone back and shot him..without any concern about who might have heard screams, yelling, and a gunshot, sound…??? A forensics analyses, would disclose what, when, and, where… wouldn’t it; if, the rush to judgement, wasn’t already Arias biased; and, deemed unnecessary… the Gestapo, already had their victim named… How could that be, when they never did their analyses, until, they later got a volunteered q-tip saliva swab…??? It’s unreasonable to believe that the Gestapo lies;??? Case law: “Because police officers can lie with impunity, they, therefore, do not make credible witnesses…” So, once you lock yourself out of a bedroom, how does anybody get back in..the thumb button deploys from the inside, with the door closed… and, does it not cancel, if its pushed, while the door is still open, so you can’t lock yourself out…when it’s depressed, and the door is then closed…??? “Reasonable doubt, is not beyond a shadow of a doubt;” way to go, Watson… therefore, the burden is far less to invoke reasonable doubt, opposed to all you lynch mobsters’ alleged judgements, before one fact has been put before a court, under penalty of perjury, and, believed, by, even, a stacked jury… Maybe the home invaders made her sign their handiwork, with her signature, blood print, on the wall… Were you there…??? And, maybe she has had her entire family threatened, ..??? Jasons’ 5 ballistics notations, leave out a contradiction; that the Gestapo knows what he knows, yet, never did the test, despite, Jasons’ 5 reasons why they should have; so as to dispel any notion of reasonable doubt ; not, to avoid it, and provide reasonable doubt for someone they claimed to have done it… As for Jason trying to twist reasonable doubt, into, beyond a reasonable doubt; even an incompetent lieyer won’t buy it… The issue still stands: Why do all you lynch mobsters want her to be guilty; what’s it to you; that’s any more valid than my effort to call the criminal enterprise at law, on their criminality…??? And, why would she take the camera from the scene, throw it on the bed, wrap up all the bedding and throw it all, in the washing machine; retrieve it all, and throw it in the dryer… without a brainstorm idea that maybe she should take the camera, if he’s dead; it’s not likely there will be any police report filed; or, simply remove the chip, just like the Gestapo, did.. unless, the last picture Jodi took was of Travis, posing in the shower; happy… which, jodi could have left there, then, to irritate the new girlfriend… who might have been involved in getting even with the first victim, for cheating on her with this previous girlfriend…??? And, who’s to say that the camra was not placed in the hot dryer, after the bedding was done; to make sure the pictures would be intact…??? And, what test with the same kind of camera has been done, thrown into the washer, with the same bedding; washed with the same detergent, then thrown in the dryer, to see if the same alleged results, were forthcoming; to indicate when in this soap opera, the damning “evidence,” was introduced… And, why would a photographer; Jodi; leave the camera there if she loaded it with only her pictures, but, also, a murder scene…??? Edgrrr…
Isn’t love grand people? You can excuse the most heinous shit in the name of love, invent the most bizarre, desperate excuses in the name of love. Believe anything in the name of love.
Answer this, Edgar – Why frame Jodi? What’s so special about her? Don’t you think it’s easier to go with an unsolved murder, than to go through the trouble and expense to convict an innocent person? I mean, can you imagine the damage if the plan were to backfire? This is another question morons like you can never answer. I predict you’ll either insult me, evade the question, or most likely, ask me to answer some ridiculous question first.
Are we having fun yet folks? I sure am – Edgar is the best crackpot supporter we’ve had around here in months. This is almost as good as the Timothy Poling thread. It’s still got a long way to go to beat Elyse Mamino though – that was the mother of all “family and friends in serious denial” thread.
And that, Max, is a large part of the reason why I can’t “support” Jodi Arias as being innocent. The fact that the authorities feel that they have enough substance for their charges, no matter what we are aware of, does tend to weigh the case. It’s also why we can’t predict anything until we actually have all of the evidence.
But you are absolutely right that some people are idiots. Whether they support the suspect because they know her personally, or they are adamant about guilt because of bits and pieces fed through the media, the REASONS for their opinions are wrong.
Opinions can’t just be a gut reaction (well, they can, but that just illustrates the ignorance of the opinion-holder). Opinions should be based on logic and fact, perhaps with a little common-sense, background and a dash of gut-reaction tossed in.
But these morons who say “she can’t be guilty because she is my frieeeeeend”, or “she must be guilty because the cops arrested her” are equally stupid, and should just shut the fuck up.
I can’t decide if he’s Bram Stoker’s Renfield or Multiple Migs from the Silence of the Lambs.
Renfield has more class than Migs. Renfield was played by Tom Waits in the most recent film incarnation, so I’m in favor of calling this melon-head Migs. Tom Waits is in my personal Pantheon, and I will not sully his holy name with this piffle.
Just don’t walk by edgrrr’s cell on the way back from Hannibal’s place, m’kay? If you do, bring a towel.
Wow, first we are communists, then gestapo members, then lynch mobsters which I assume is some sort of crime family straight out of the Godfather. LOL I prefer to belong to the Lynch Mobsters Crime Family myself!
We need an anagram! We also need a theme song, preferably with cellos and violins. And a logo for the opening credits. Otherwise we will have no credibility as Communist Gestapo Lynch Mobster Crime Family and all of the other Families will laugh at us and call us names and we will have no street cred. That’s no way to establish a Mafia.
Specifically, condensed into morons, licking the boots of jackbooted gangsters, slithering right along with them, under color of law… Lick them boots, tote that bale… just you wait til you’re in jail…. Anybody note another Richter Scale, I.Q., evasion… because he couldn’t figure out which title he liked best…then, finally confessed…. Edgar….
Mmm… Beat poetry.
*snap* *snap*
Groovy, man.
OK I get it already-you are stuck in an acid trip from the 60’s still screaming “don’t trust the man”, and “cops are evil” and nobody in the establishment can be trusted…hate to tell you but paranoia is so 1960’s, the cold war ended, the gestapo and communist are not as big a threat as fundamentalist terrorist and even liberals have moved to the political center and you have absolutely no concept of sarcasm.
Not to mention no communication skills.
This idiot’s prose-y, flowery, bullshit is no way to communicate a message. It’s impossible to discern what he is trying to say. and truly, it’s so difficult to work through that I, for one, just say “screw it, it’s not important enough to bother with”.
The opinions of other message-board posters are often interesting, but not interesting enough to give myself a headache over!
“It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness.”–Leo Tolstoy
Leo, you don’t know the half of it and you died long before breast implants.
I really have to give a hand to you guys, edgar may have a good argument, i’ll never know. I can not take reading his drivel for more than what should be a sentence. anyone who can read and interpret that shit has his/her way above mine. Just at a guess I would say english is not his first language and he is a recent resident from off the boat. Now with english not being my first language I think i do fairly decent getting my point across.
You may be right, but regardless, it is pretty certain that he is a pompous ass who thinks he is much smarter than everyone else. That attitude transcends all language skills.
Your English is excellent, by the way =)
Yet, not a wimper from all these aiders and abettors of the uniform communistic code, regarding the Gestapos’ meted out and alleged facts. No other explanations are possible ? Is slithering to my side of the argument, any more than another evasion, at law. Now, I realize that there are tons of two sentence commandos out here, but, why are the facts, never stated, outright, as opposed to such generalities, as, she got arrested so the sheeple should be duped, and, a two million dollar ransom, proves that she must be guilty… And, why the need for tapdancing around the socalled facts; explain, if, you can; with more than, slurping the boots of the Gestapo…? Edgrrr…
The Gestapo were the Secret Police, the name you need to use is the Kripo or “Crime Police.” This isn’t Sarah Connor trying to protect herself from Skynet or a member of the Polish underground versus the German secret police. This is a woman accused of murdering her lover–you know, a crime.
Thanks for discarding some of the garbage.
Edgar is getting boring which is the worst sin a troll poster can commit.
Why support Jodi ? Got that much now ? Because, her interstate kidnapping, under color of law, in secret, without even publishing the basic facts to support the warrant, constitutes, as good an excuse as any, to question, all the Gestapo antics at law, and, why there is support for, all the “facts, that, the system must have,” on every case they prosecute; as, it is this bluff that has filled our prisons with victims of organized crime at law; in many instances, by blackmailing the systems’ victims, with allegations that don’t fit the facts, so as to embezzle, guilty pleas, and, prison for many who have been proven, innocent, later. How many, have been murdered by the Gestapo state, who were actually, not, guilty ? No one will ever know, because the lie-yers are reaping their harvest out of their “officer of the court,” charade… and, revel in the prison criminality that guarantees guilty pleas, and, lieyer/judiciary, doublecrosses… Jodi, just happens to be a citizen of Ahnolds’ Gulag, Kali Fornia, concentration camp; wherein the toadies of the system, are embezzling, property, and, rights, as fast as they can, with impunity of prosecution; allegedly, held in check, by other hyenas at law… My arguments, have nothing to do with Travis and Jodi, beyond, the concealment of the facts, the dissemination of rumors, claimed to be the facts… and the bootlicking choir, singing the partyline propaganda, with one evasion after another; and, not one argument, despite laws to the contrary, in support for the fact that the law has been 260 plus years, in the making, to clearly define, Justice… Why, do these socalled facts not stand up to the light of day, but for the fact that all the vampires at law, are in their boxes, asleep, by day…? Why, is it not equally valid to argue the facts, alleged, for their frauds, as it is to aid and abet a Gestapo, that conceals from the public; which, according to law, has a right to know, what these criminals at law, are doing to our alleged system of justice, as they conspire in secret ? “Easier to go with an unsolved murder…?” Easier for whom; the braindead judges, the grandstanding district attorneys, the inept Gestapo, who take the easy way out, with their secret, mini trials, to, accept as Gospel, fraudulent, allegations propped up by fraudulent analyses, which, when shown to be defective, Arias Bias, are still held to be justification for continuing this blatant fraud; despite, the law, which states “That which is wrong from the beginning, stays wrong;” regardless of how many bogus processes you throw at it… or, how many boots the choir licks. What’s so special, about, Jodi?” Glad you asked; not a thing, any more than the Deification of the other victim in this Travis Tragedy, and, Arias Bias, for there but for the grace of God, go, youse guys… The cops, lieyers prosecutors, and braindead judges, are not, the law, but, are just as subject to it as therest of us are, so, why, are you toadies of the system, giving them a free pass? What’s so special about this “case,” that, all lawful process, be damned; full speed, ahead…??? Any arguments, to prove that Jodi, fired a gun; the basis for the interstate kidnapping and two million dollar ransom, warrant ? Any argument for the halfast, blood analyses, that disproves, her guilt, to the degree of reasonable doubt ? Any, other proof, that, someone else is not possibly, the killer, running around, loose? Any comment about the Manson wannabe, with the swastika, forehead tattoo, who “Was on a mission, to kill someone, and, commit suicide ;” arrested here, with enough explosives to be a terrorist, “on a mission !” What have the police, learned in this entire year, that they know to be reasonable doubt, and, how many cops will conceal, reasonable doubt, to protect the jackbooted thug cabal…? Any answers, any reason, any logical, arguments… or, just some more punctuation evasions…??? And, how many people are in prison, being punished, for mistakes their lieyer made; better that lieyers who defraud, their clients, be made to do their time for them…?!….. If, Jodi is actually guilty, why would she throw her life away, by leaving a camera with murder scene pictures on it, if, she actually took those pictures…? Snivel now, you hear…??? Edgrrr….
Thats why you support her Eddie? You really believe this stuff? Tell me something? Has anyone ever used the term Paranoid Schizophrenic in relation to a diagnosis concerning you or your behavior? I’m not kidding here Edgar, I’m stone cold serious – do you hear voices, or see things that aren’t really there? I’m no psychiatrist of psychologist, but any good crime buff knows the symptoms of Schizophrenia, and you show some of the classic signs of a guy who’s living in his own little world. I swear to God I’m not fucking with you at this moment Edgar.
All this talk about this huge conspiracy to convict an innocent person, and how we’re all lackeys of some commy/facist (how they exist together is anyone’s guess) government gone wild is classic paranoid delusion stuff. Maybe it’s time for a little vacation Ed. Cuz seriously, I haven’t seen crazy like this in a long time.
“why would she throw her life away, by leaving a camera with murder scene pictures on it, if, she actually took those pictures…?”
BECAUSE SHE IS AN IDIOT, THAT’S WHY. She’s not a seasoned murderer who has become an expert over time – she’s an idiotic murderer who was relying on her ‘mental superiority’ to carry her through.
Isn’t it a little bit possible that she rolled the camera up with the sheets when she washed them? Hmmm? Really now, edgrrr.
I wish these bricks of text you’re posting could somehow be harvested from the screen and used to build houses for needy families. That way, perhaps they’d do more for humanity than point out what a tool you arel.
You have the right to remain silent, you have the right to have a lieyer present at ALL stages of the proceedings; etc. Is that so, then, how is it lawful for these governors and prosecutors, to hold their mini trial, in secret, to ignore reasonable doubt, by scatterbrained, alleged evidence; and, the accused is not being able to be represented by lieyer, at this crucial, stage of the proceedings… as these biased cutthroats try and, convict, on the spot, with, evidence, now proven to be invalid… to slander the accused, and, bias all the sheeple, into, their irrelevant, partyline propaganda, while, pretending to have incontrovertible proof; as if, their word, means anything… and, as if, they all should not be held to answer, for, denying a lieyer/accused persons’ attendance, at the mini trial; obviously important enough to warrant a death penalty charge, but, not important enough, to, obey the law; to have a lieyer present at all stages, of the proceedings, or the right to act as well, in your own defense…? Ditto, “Grand Jury,” charades, at law; no lieyer to refute the d.a.s’ charges; with the entire soap opera meant to put four strikes against an accused in a three strike, game… Whom, in their right mind, would dare go to trial, with this pantload of gestapo, and their choir, antics, at law…, while facing a stacked jury, with a two million dollar, ransom, “proving, her guilt…?” Especially with the likes of youse guys who ignore the facts, to, protect your dogma, bootlick pandering to the organized crime at law, system…? Get a grip… Edgrrr…. The voice of America…. With Glib-erty and, Just Ice for all….
Oh, I get it now… not only do you not understand English, you don’t understand the basics of the Legal System.
She can’t be convicted by a Grand Jury.
It’s the freedom of speech of the public and the media to discuss her guilt and innocence in the public.
She can have a lawyer present if she wants, but a Grand Jury is an instrument of the prosecutor. If the defense would like to pay for a test jury to submit a probable defense, that’s completely legal.
Paranoid Schizophrenic; there’s some simplemindedness for you; to wit: Paranoia: not unlike a persecution complex… “everybody is always picking on me;” which of course, is simpleminded, since it’s not possible that you know, everybody… Schizophrenia; a split personality, prone to flip flopping. That, work for you ? work for you , too; all, both of you…??? When, however, one, or in your case, a half, can prove their perceived delusions; that’s, called, reality… A “diagnosis,” would have to presume, some delusions of grandeur, presupposing that some freak with a superiority complex,has usurped jurisdiction, to, condescend a justification for his existance, by, putting erroneous, irrelevant, labels, upon lesser included individuals, who probably could allay the diagnostics, get rid of the persecutor, and get well, all in one fell swoop…by using a baseball bat, upon the claimant… Ya think; or do thet be too far out fer you, man…??? Edgar…. Denny and Alan, will be bringing the cigars soon…
Bring the bat, then you can write letters to Jodi from your prison cell, and she can tell you how little sense they make.
Guess what Edgar? Just because you think you know something doesn’t make it correct. And that is the difference between an intelligent person and a pompous ass.
Schizophrenia is NOT split personality. That is something called MPD (multiple personality disorder) which is classified under personality disorders. Schizophrenia is a biological brain disorder characterized by:
* distorted perception of reality
* confused thinking
* detailed and bizarre thoughts and ideas
* suspiciousness and/or paranoia
* hallucinations
* delusions
* extreme moodiness
* severe anxiety and/or fearfulness
* flat affect
* social withdrawal
* disorganized or catatonic behavior
* odd behaviors
I don’t think that Max was too far off base when he suggested that you be checked for it. You definitely display many of the signs, at least as evidenced through your writing.
But I am sure you will just poo-poo this, like you write-off everything that you disagree with. Unfortunately denial is also a symptom of many mental disorders.
I rest my case – This dude is certifiable.
Get help Edgar, quickly.
I don’t know if you were throwing a threat out there – it’s so hard to figure out just what the fuck you’re actually saying – but if you bring that bat, I’ll introduce you to my 12-gauge shotgun. That double-ought buckshot makes a hell of a mess, I gotta tell you.
Looks lide you ‘ve met your match ,,Jason. you lose
Damn, this match won’t light.
It has no Pop, no zing, no fire.
Jason met his match in whom? Edgrrrr? You? Please cite a single instance where he’s lost any part of any debate with either of you.
Until then, I’m done with both of you. Not because you ‘won’. In order to win, you have to actually compete. In order to compete, you have to be on the same playing field. You’re both so far out of the real universe, you can’t possibly zero in on the correct solar system, much less the field.
I’m done with both of you because if I continue to read either of your posts, I’ll give myself a laughter hernia. It’s just not worth it!
If you’re two examples of the kinds of people Jodi surrounds herself with, she was doomed from the start! No wonder she flipped out. Heck, I’d go crazy and start killing people myself if I had friends like you!
Sure… you mental midgets have all the answers to the non questions you pose in the first place…. and, your offered diagnostics, are your own textbook understanding, you have about yourselves. I like my definitions, better than yours, thankyou, and, don’t really see a need in getting into a pissing contest with a bunch of skunks. As to your paranoia and excuse to add violence to your resume, ‘ someone is really looking for you with a baseball bat… so that you’ll have your premeditated excuse to use excessive force… but, you deny the same to Jodi, if, she’s even guilty in the first place… why’s that; youse guys, privileged characters, or something…??? Like, someone is going to actually chase you, specifically, down your rathole with a baseball bat; you’re barely hanging on, eh…??? Edgrrr…
Max the cat Blesses us all with the startling revelation that he’s no shrink, then, after his confession, renders his diagnosis,,, We’re blessed… yet, he admits that he can’t understand English… Note: not a mention of the interstate kidnapping of another States’ citizen, with refutable/refuted alleged evidence… why bother, if, he can draw you off into his paranoid dream world tangent, wherein, he’s actually important enough for a baseball bat visit…. and, why would playing baseball, conjure, such images of hostility; maybe, Jodi, should let him replace her, as a viable suspect; we haven’t heard such venom out of her, and, thankyou; I wouldn’t give up any part of my consciousness, just because one of your self aggrandizing, social leeches, hung a label on it, and got a license from the other scammers of your ilk… I, enjoy them, too much… Edgar….
I can’t be bothered to read and comments above your last two post, I really am to lazy and feel I don’t need to find out what your replying to because it’s clear from these incoherent babblings your a real wacko.
Murder is pretty venomous, if you ask any normal person. You are so full of fail, edgrrr, there are no words in English to describe you.
I understand English just fine Edgar – it’s you that I, and many others, have a hard time figuring out what you’re really saying. You might think you stilted style of writing somehow makes you superior to us, but all it really is another symptom of the madness in your mind. One doesn’t have to be a trained psychiatrist to see you’re fucking nuts. I can see why though, living in the middle of nowhere in Kansas will do that to a person, and it’s certainly a fertile breeding ground for conspiracy theorists. Add that to your obvious mental “challenges” and, well, you get the picture….
And you know, there are two things about your rant that obviously prove you’re not nearly as smart as you think you are. The first thing is how you use the words fascist and communist. You interchange them, and some times even use them together, as in the phrase “fascist, commie”. Guess you don’t know that the two ideologies are diametrically opposed. Oh, sorry Edgar – that means they are completely different. Hitler hated communists – and Stalin was paranoid about a fascist conspiracy against him.
The other thing you keep ranting on that’s just total bullshit is your insistence that any tests that were performed that supposedly prove Jodi never fired a gun in some way prove her innocence. I know I said this before, but as is par for the course for deluded conspiracy nuts like you, you chose to ignore it. Travis Alexander’s Body was found at least FIVE days after Jodi murdered him – so any tests performed on Jodi would have been done at least 6 days after the crime took place. Don’t you think she might have cleaned herself up by then? Of course she did moron. And you call us simpleminded? How could you have missed that Edgar? Boy, the voices really let you down with that one.
And you still haven’t answered my earlier question – Why frame Jodi? What’s so special about her? Don’t you think it’s easier to go with an unsolved murder, than to go through the trouble and expense to convict an innocent person? Consult your hallucinations and get back to me, OK.
I know this has next to nothing to do with anything; but, I just looked at their myspace profiles–they both are Mormon? So bizarre! Mormons can’t have sex outside of marriage or they get excommunicated from the church.
She converted to Mormonism; but, obviously didn’t take it seriously to be having sex outside of marriage. In many ways, this religion is an ‘old time religion.’ This is not a religion you join for fun or on a whim–you have to go through lessons and be interviewed and make a huge life commitment.
I really find this odd that either of them would be engaging in sex and still posting that they are Mormon–these two things are mutually exclusive.
Plenty of people don’t practice what they preach. It’s part of what turns so many of us off to organized religion.
Jodi’s reasons for converting are clear – to make herself seem more like the perfect woman to her murder victim. It’s a classic move from a desperate and narcissistic person.
No, you are absolutely correct that many people don’t ‘practice what they preach.’ It just surprised me that he kept his re;igion posted as Mormon, given his actions.
And, I agree that Jodi’s reasons for converting are crystal clear! According to Mormon doctrine, Mormons are supposed to only marry Mormons. Thus, as a ‘desperate’ psycho, she wanted to get rid of any and all obstacles; so, she converted. Part of trying to absorb Travis into her.
She appears to have borderline personality disorder. BPD cling to someone as if their life depends on it-in their mind, it does. They are terrified to the point of immense rage at the thought of being abandoned. Usually, they will act out and harm themselves to keep the object of their obsession from leaving. Of course, they have no qualms of hurting the other person if it suits their purpose.
In the mental health field, Borderline Personality Disorder is one of the most difficult and dreaded diagnoses to work with. They are intelligent, can seem logical, and yet, completely fucked up!!
BPD are the kind that everything must be their way and only their way or there will be absolute hell to pay. They have no sense of boundaries; yet an extremely high sense of entitlement.
I’m thinking Jodi fits this diagnosis pretty solidly!
Oh gosh. I have Borderline Personality Disorder. I know at times I can be a real “thrill” for my family to handle, but I am nothing at all like our little phsyco Jodie here. LOL, just thought I’d defend myself a bit. I know that you know that all BPD’s aren’t like her, but I just wanted to put on record…….:)
Ah mah GAD! Kathybird’s gonna kill us all thru the intertron! ;)
Nah, not all people with your condition are killers. And we all have our mental instabilities. It’s a matter of degree, if it’s even been diagnosed so it’s treated, if the person is otherwise insane, yadda yadda yadda.
Intertron…lol. I wonder, could I wipe out the world and get away with it through the ‘intertron’? Would my ISP give me away? Would anyone be left to find my ISP? There’s always at least one survivor, will he be cute? Will he mind my clinginess?…..oh my god, so many questions, so little time to initiate ‘the plan’, so many voices telling me to ……. oh crap, I just said all of this out loud? Well, back to square one, again…..
On a side note, getting Prozac caught in your throat is adding insult to injury, amirite?
More evasions, as to the bogus blood test basis for the warrant…. concealed…. to prove that Jodi never fired a gun…. Is that clear enough for you…? Your evasions, please, and a lot of ZZZZZZZZZsss from Vanna….Edgar….
Max the cat, is really, Toto, heading, to Kansas…. no doubt wearing Dorothys’ red shoes…. “Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed;” would that be the claim, still ??? The first scam of Communism, is the abolishment of private property; of course, turned over to the State….. while, the Fascism, conspiracy [Cons Piracy], is the embezzlement of private property, by letting you think that you own it, while the Cons Piracy, is embezzling it, a gnaw, at a time, by, taxation without representation, regulation, penalties, bogus, and, environmental, control, and, confiscation, by the implementation of a pantload of Alphabet Gangsters; FBI, CIA, DMV, IRS, ATF, CFR ; Private Corporations, slithering under color of law; clearly defined by case law: “An agency of the government, is not the government, nor, is [it] a department, thereof…” of course, all made possible by Sheeple with no concept of what America, is all about…………………. always electing either side of the same slug; RepugnaCraptic conspiracy………….the unAmerican Bar association, whose lieyers have infiltrated ever aspect of our lives, with their Alice in Wonderland, contempt of their own courts… Max,,, indeed,,,, it should be Min,,, as in minimum,,, Your Schizophrenias, are, diametrically, opposed… and, as you said: you’ve said it before, but, confess, that, you didn’t get it the first time; because, Jodi, washed her hands, later, somehow, Toto, that would eliminate gunpowder residue, back at the playboys’ mansion; you know, the gunpowder residue particles, squeezed into the handprint blood, proving that whatwith no gunpowder residue in the anal-yses, Jodi, did not fire a gun… The Gestapo, as one braniac, who, earlier stated, “grows their evidence,” while concealing, their sleight of mind tricks, at law, now claims that since that story didn’t fit, let’s try another [like they lied], and say that she shot him after she killed him, and, of course if you read all the closed websites, on the subject, you’ll see the Mad Hatter, flourishes, at law… that is, if you could read all the comments, that the thought police, censored; that, fill in the blanks, of what has been printed; arriving, youse guys at your prejudicial destination; licking the boots of the jackbooted Gestapo…because, you can’t comprehend, rambling sentences, with all those commas… And, while consulting all pertinent hallucinations, the notable common thread that slithers through all you lynch mobsters,,,, communists,,,, fascists,,,, and,,,, bootlickers,,,, [try not to evade my commas,,,, again],,, is your prejudicial, mania for slandering,,, Jodi. Maybe,,, all this venom is because of some same sex,,, attraction,,, you boys had for ,,,, one of yours…. you’ll never tell…. and,,, it is this loss that makes Jodi,,, your victim… Couldn’t possibly be some homosexual hysteria,,,, at work,,, here,,, could it,,, with the strength, to do the damage,,,, and the femininty, to keep pecking/harping at it,,, and,,, would any one of you cop [pun intended] to it… with dagger pecking…………….. As for denial, being a mental disorder,,, because some condescending anal erotic, says so,,, then,,, is that to suggest that the moron, claiming that prize for someone else, is not mentally disturbed,,, whatwith,,, his/her delusions of consciousness,,, in knowing one, without being one…??? And what disease, label, would all you shrinkwraps, place upon these continual evasions of the now found to be bogus; and, no doubt, perjury of the record, then, as well…. no blood gunshot residue, imbedded, in the squashed handprint,”evidence ?” How much intelligence would you need to dupe, braindead judges, and, peacock governors, who all, think nothing of interstate kidnapping of another States’ citizen…? And,,, claiming that Kansas is the breeding ground, for conspiracy theorists, is, simpleminded; as if you know everybody there, Toto; no wonder,,, Dorothy had to remind you that “we’re not in Kansas, anymore,,, Toto…” And,,, neither,,, brainwarp 12, is California…. Edgrrr…. Stalag Skew, at Y-RICO, Ahnolds’ Kali Fornia….
Huh? I can’t understand this, is this some sort of foreign language? Perhaps he hails from the country of Fucktardia?
I write lyrics for my band. Sometimes I can’t help what I write, it just sorta happens. Here’s a song parody I had to purge for obvious reasons. Imma go shower off my shame. Culture Club fans, please forgive me!
Comma Curmudgeon
Nutty typing in your posts all the way
If I listen to your boasts would you say
I’m someone without conviction
I’m someone who doesn’t know
To ignore your contradictions
Your brain is slow
Your brain is slow
Comma Comma Comma Comma
Comma Curmudgeon
That psycho ho
Has got to go
Understanding’s easy
If you know what your words mean
Ed’s break my screen
Ed’s break my screen
I can’t read his garbled posts
Every day
Does he think being so dumb
Will get him laid
Jodi’s love is an addiction
When she clings
Her brain goes wrong
When she’s sentenced
She’s gone forever
Ed’s strung along
Ed’s strung along
Every day is like survival
If your lover
is a psycho
Every day is like survival
If your lover
is a psycho
Are you someone without conviction
Are you someone who doesn’t know
To ignore Ed’s contradictions
His brain is slow
His brain is slow
Great lyrics! Encore! Encore!
Too cute,,,, but,,,, yawn,,,, just another transparent,,,, evasion… Don’t waste my commas,,,, y’all heah…??? Edgrrr,,,, not to be confuddled with,,,, Edgrrr…
Edgar, I think it’s time for you to go – you’ve become boring and predictable. I mean, how many times can we listen to the same bullshit over and over. I let you post you novelettes of insanity, even instigated some of them, because it seemed to amuse folks. You’re one of those people who’s silly crazy, like Frank Burns on M*A*S*H*, but lately you’re just not funny anymore.I don’t know, I guess I feel like I’m kicking a sick dog whenever I fuck with you.
So I’m banning you, for your own sake. You get to join the other fella who was way too crazy to debate people in a public forum. See you in the next world….
Thanks Max =)
While I appreciate that everyone should have a voice, some voices are just insane. As you indicated, it almost seems cruel to let them continue.
Amen!
Max the Cat -
I am a shrink and can tell you that, without a doubt, Edgar is a schizophrenic. It was obvious from the first post – key symptoms of schizophrenia are disorganized thoughts/speech. The illness does not typically manifest just as bizarre ideas, but difficulty in even stringing them together into a coherent phrase. You can’t debate with someone who is experiencing delusions; delusions, by definition, are fixed, false beliefs. And you clearly weren’t the first person to share this diagnosis with Edgar, hence the further meltdown in subsequent posts. I could go on and on about the speech pattern – I spend half my time at work trying to sort through communication like this mess. So anyway, good call Max the Cat.
My professional life would be so much easier if people were required to pass a mental health exam before gaining internet access or being able to subscribe to the Sci-Fi Network, Investigation Discovery, and the likes. (Sigh)
*sobbing in misery* Please, please, pleeeeeease. Stop raping the English language. Can’t you hear the screams? Or do you just not care? You heartless bastard!
beckey my dear, everything you said in your poem applies to you.
Why POP, I do believe you have a crush on our little Becky!! It’s so obvious, I can’t believe I missed it until now. Why else would you give her so much of your attention. Tell us, what is it about her that draws you to her? Her dry wit? Her sharp mind? The fact that she hasn’t shot and stabbed anyone to death?
Max, you owe me a new monitor. The coffee-and-saliva shower I just gave it doesn’t quite work with its software, and my keyboard is frowning at me because it’s sticky and wet. I accept PayPal. Please email me for details. ;)
It’s like he said “Takes one to know one!”, tugged on my ponytail and ran away. He seems like a pouting 5 year old who missed out on his juice and crackers because he wasn’t playing well with others in the sand box. I can almost envision the frown, the clinched and chubby little fists, the shiny protruding lower lip with the inevitable drool… adorable, isn’t he?
Ha! That POP in a nutshell Becky. I hate little sniping little dorks like him, with their one line insults aimed at somebody that they find some flaw in. I imagine POP hitting the enter button to send his comment and then spending the next twenty minutes at a mirror asking himself, “POP, how did you get so fucking clever?”
BTW, sorry about the monitor and keyboard. A little hint: After dealing with guys like Edgar for a while, I learned to cover my keyboard with saran wrap and put a sheet of clear acrylic in front of my monitor, for just the type of reaction you described.
I’m not missing the point or anything and I’m not siding with her. I know it’s definitely her fault, but Travis and Jodi broke up, and then for whatever reason he felt it necessary to mess around with her again, and sexually at that, hence the naked pictures with her right before he died. No matter who you are, if you want to break up with someone, you don’t lead them on — especially knowing what a weirdo she is. I blame him for that part, though she’s the bigger cunt by far. But Travis, come on, you’re the normal one. Should’ve had some sense; one of you had to.
Lol @ her story. That’s ridiculous.
I hear what you are saying, Selective Judgment; but, I don’t think he led her on. For all we know, he was completely upfront with her and she agreed that ‘friends with benefits’ was cool.
My guess is that this crazy bitch was so desperate/obsessed that she pursued him and played it like it was no big deal. Guys aren’t known for great insight when it comes to their sex life.
Depending on the circumstances, being “friends with benefits” can be perceived as being led on by some people, especially to an unstable woman.
He knew she was off — or should’ve. He was warned and saw that “look in her eye.” I think he was dumb for continuing to see her. Sure, he probably never would’ve expected her to be a murderer, but he definitely knew she was kind of crazy.
i agree. she has this creepy thing about her. shes so calm and swears two people a man and woman killed him but didnt do shit to her. not even a punch to her stupid as face, come on. she did it and she deserves to suffer in jail for life. she asked for the death penalty instead well she needs to live the rest of her life in jail.
I have a similar crazy ex wife
Hi I typed in some search terms and came here to anser the question ‘Do other men have ex-wife’s who are making thier lives’ unbarable’ Yes I have an ex-wife who is a shizoprinic and I divorced her after she refused to take her medications. She’s been in many hospitals after we divorced but this weekend she called me nonstop all hours of the night, I wasnt able to work Friday, I’m self employed so I had to shut my whole business down and I dont even know how much money I lost and I hope not clients but she called agian and agian saying she wants to remarry me- It was not the first time but she went to the hospital and was better for a couple months now she’s calling me all hours I disconnect my phone- even though I have to leave my cell on in case of personal emergency I turn the ringer off and I had 27 messeges (from her) at 3 pm when I woke up- I called her and explianed I dont want to get her arrested (I have a restrianing order) well she apologized and asked if she could still call me once a week for 10 min like we were doing the last time she ‘was better’ I siad yes if you stop calling. She called as soon as the phone was hung up. I asked her if she relized I can arrest her right now she siad yes and since I didnt I must love her I told her no I liked you as a friend but now that you’re calling me forget it. And the wierd thing was all these calls and messages had one thing in commen she was talking about only a few words a minute like she was trying to think of what to say- and get this- she kept cussing me then meekly apologing saying she wants to remarry me then saying she hates me and will hurt me–but I’ve experianced ALL THAT before with her. I finally told her I’ll call the Cops next time she calls I took a shower and the second I got out the phone rings then I see all these calls from her while I was showering. I dont pick it up till she leaves an other dumb message I then say it’s over I’m calling the cops. she says she wants me to sign her involentaraly into the hospital. I tell her I’ll do her one better I’ll have a confrence call with the cops and let her sign herself in volentarally and I wont press charges if she dosnt call me. then she begs to still call me once a week I say OK we call the cops I tell her to talk to them she dosnt then I relize this was a ruse to get me to talk to her for a while. So I yell at her on the phone go ahead talk I start telling the police what happened finally she talks and commits herself. I tell her not to call me past 11 pm. Well she calls me at 2 am and tells me she signed out of the hospital and then I get frantic calls from her ‘friends’ asking me why I put her in the hospital. I was goning to go on a trip today so I tell them what happened BYE Well now Im wide awake and I called the cops they locked her up for the night. Then she calls to borrow money and let her out! I wasnt going to show up to court but I will now. So yea I’ve experianced an unstable ex wife harring me I know exactly what youre taalking about and I hope to end her harrasment of me and my life by not ‘being soft on her’ any longer. Never Agian
he seemed like such a nice and outgoing guy, and he was really attractive too. i hope the crazy bitch gets a big reality check in prison.
Travis was a self absorbed, money worshipping, power hungry douche. He should have stuck to pumping the guys at the gym. The world is a better place without him.
He said he wanted to meet Jesus, so she did him, and the rest of us a favor.
So how many times did he reject your advances, troll boy? Jealousy is such an ugly thing…
What am I jealous of, being killed by psychobitch, or being a glorified used car salesman?
And he never turned down any of my advances LOL!
Remember, the love of money is the root of all evil.
So why woulld you say Im a troll because I said Im glad he’s dead? It is a genuine feeling of happiness that he is no longer in this world. It’s no different than saying the world is a better place without Jack Berry. Both of them used and hurt people and it caught up with them.