Steven R. Bourgeois
My dad grew up with the Bourgeois family, so this crime was a little too close for comfort.
April 8, 2006- Tracy Mei, 34, is lying in a pool of her own blood on the floor of her garage.
Let’s take a look at the chain of events that led to this point. Tracy was the live-in girlfriend of Steven R. Bourgeois, 43, of Westminster, MA.
April 8th started like any other day, people woke up, ate, went to work. Police patrolled the small town streets and the rural backroads. Happy citizens took their trash out to the curb for collection. Just another day in backwoods Massachusetts. Until…
Steve and Tracy had a blow-out argument over some stereo equipment that had been accidentally thrown out. He went outside, she went into the garage, and that is when all hell broke loose. Suddenly, Steve’s truck come crashing through the garage door, striking an ATV, which in turn pinned Tracy to the wall. Seeing that the love of his life was not entirely dead, Steve grabbed an ax and promptly began swinging it at her. Tracy’s 8 year-old son (from a previous relationship) heard his mother crying and screaming “Ouch! No, Steven! Stop!” Steve didn’t stop.
The boy called his uncle for help after Steve sent him inside. By the time EMTs arrived, Steve had fled the scene in his pick-up truck. Police recovered the ax that he used to maul Tracy. His own family turned him and his truck in the same day after they found Steve in the nearby town of Hubbardston.
To make things worse, Tracy didn’t die right away. She lingered for NINE days. NINE DAYS! She suffered for over a week from skull fractures and brain lacerations, caused by Steve hacking at her head with an ax, before succumbing to her injuries. She also had a broken leg (from the ATV,) and lacerations all over her body from being struck with the ax.
Bourgeois’ attorney argued that because of Steve’s history of mental illness, he could not have formed the criminal intent necessary to be convicted of first degree murder.
District Attorney Thomas Landry offered a deal: “Plea guilty in exchange for the lesser sentence of second degree murder and we won’t have our star witness (Tracy’s 8 year old son) testify to what he saw and heard.”
Steve took the deal. He was convicted on May 4, 2007 and will be eligible for parole in 13 years. If he had been convicted of first degree murder, he would not have the chance of parole.
Tracy left behind three children.
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jesus christ, that’s just fantastic. killing mom in front of the kid, this guy deserves a fucking medal…..
mental illness? yeah, definitely a mental illness, no sane person would even think of committing such a terrible crime.
Double D, The 8 year old was in the house at the time. When he heard the screams he came down to the garage, but when he got there, Steve was gone. Sorry I wasn’t more specific. I was stationed in Georgia at the time. My dad called and told me about it. One of Steve’s nephews was working for him at the time. The poor kid was in shock. The 8 year old boy is still in shock and is still dealing with the horrible crime.
One of the cops that investigated this is a friend of mine, he’s still shaken up about it. He told me that he threw up when he got home from work that day.
Seems like ‘mentally ill’ is the new ‘I just like killing people when I get ticked off’.
I feel sorry for people who claim to have asked for mental help for their loved ones for years since all the mental services got shut down in the 80s. I don’t feel sorry for people who’s families claim they were nice people, and who’s attys claim mentally ill after murder. It’s easier for people to believe that other people are mentally ill than it is to believe that they just really had no problem killing someone because they were mad at them.
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Good thing his brothers didn’t back him up, huh? Like I said, my dad didn’t believe the “I’m mentally ill” defense, either.
I can’t believe that this creep only got 13 years. His mental illness did not stop him from realizing a good deal, did it? This butthole gets 13 years but that little boy gets a lifetime of dreaming about his mother dying before him and feeling guilty because he couldn’t save her.
Lewbell, the only reason Tom Landry offered the deal was to avoid making the already traumatized boy relive the attack on his mother in public. Steve does deserve more time in prison, but not at that poor kid’s expense. Hasn’t the child suffered enough?
Which is exactly why children should be allowed to testify on video from another room in court cases. Kids have no legal right to marry, drive, drink- so they should not be forced to be in the same room as an adult would in court.
How traumatising will it be in 13 years when the POS gets out of jail and this kid realizes the plea bargain was made on his behalf, and that now the POS is free?
People should have the right to face an adult witness in court, but not children.
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I see your point, glorybug. Tom should have gotten a video testimony, but he didn’t. At the time, he thought he was doing what was right for the boy. Tracy was a nice lady, her children are real sweet. If this site is still up in 13 years, I will give you an update on Steve. He is a real dick, though. I hope he screws up in prison and gets another sentence. I will find out what facility he is in and let you all know. :)
here in Holland those people would be committed after they get out of jail, often that’s much much harder on them then prison time, do you have anything like that in the US?
Used to, but many of the “state hospitals” are closed.
Yeah, Fred. It was more important to balance the federal budget in the 80s than to provide care for the mentally ill. And look where that’s gotten us. I wonder what it would even take today to get institutionalized? Murdering someone, I guess.
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“His own family turned him and his truck in the same day after they found Steve in the nearby town of Hubbardston.”
Was the truck tried as an accessory? And should it go to hell too?
On another note, is it fair to let people linger that long near death? Nine days is a long time to stick around and succumb to those injuries. Did they think she had a chance of pulling through this or was death inevitable? I bring it up since the story focused on the fact that she suffered for over a week with her injuries. So would it have been more humane to have pulled the plug, so to speak, earlier rather than make her suffer? Would it have been better that way?
Stapler, this story is not a thesis on whether or not allowing someone to linger near death for any amount of time is humane.
In addition, the truck was used as a weapon, so it had to be entered into evidence. Please, Stapler, you are going to have to come up with something better than that.
My intent was to show that the crime affected more than just Tracy. Her family battled with the decision of whether or not to end her suffering sooner rather than later. In the end, they chose to let nature take its course. Perhaps they believed that they would be murdering her themselves by pulling the plug. I don’t know, I don’t need to know. All I needed to do at the time was join my town in supporting the family and helping them work through their grief. Westminster is a very small town and the biggest crime we had prior was a fight over who won Bingo. (Two elderly ladies attacked eachother with their walkers and called eachother cheats.)
Mentioning the truck really served no purpose in the context of the rest of the story. If you had mentioned it was a crucial piece of evidence in the case against him or something, that would be another story. The way you have it currently, it is just useless detail and looks funny.
And if your intent was to show how the crime impacted her family over the 9 days, you failed miserably as there is no mention of them. You wrote “To make things worse, Tracy didn’t die right away. She lingered for NINE days. NINE DAYS!” as if she had died sooner, then it would have been better. Since it would have been the family and doctor keeping her alive, it begged the question if there was a chance she would survive or were THEY prolonging her suffering? That detail along with her family struggling over it were left out of the article. Otherwise, you used the decisions of her family and doctors to put another nail in the coffin of this guy.
I did mention the child who heard his mother’s screams. You think that is not suffering?
And I mentioned that Steve crashed his truck through the garage door and slammed into the ATV which struck Tracy. So not a useless detail.
Max, I am crying “TROLL,” here. that’smystapler is obviously just being argumentative. Can someone give him a warning?
Just ignore him, I would bet that everyone arguing with him just feeds his desire, if you ignore him it will probably piss him off the most!
You are absolutely right. He just caught me at a weak moment. I have been going over my notes from a case I worked myself, three years ago. Fellow military police officer abused his son. It is public knowledge now, so I face no penalties for talking about it. But I was the responding officer, and I still have nightmares about it and regrets… I’m trained to notice the signs, but I never did. I blame myself, because if I had observed the signs sooner, that kid would still be walking and talking, instead of being a vegetable. I know it has nothing to do with Steve Bourgeois, but I needed to get it off my chest. It still pisses me off, and when someone starts spouting off and being stupid, I get even more ticked. Thanks for bringing me back down, Jessica. :)
I can’t imagine what you have to go through with that incident, but as a nurse I see some of the aftereffects and the recoveries, we make medical progress everyday with helping these children adjust to what normal we can make their lives ….. just remember that at least this angel still breaths !
Don’t feed the TROLLS. LOL.
He’s a little hard to ignore, but just try your best =)
Lol Mazzi if I ever get into a different argument online I so want you on my side :)
Did you read the last line “Tracy left behind three children.” You think they aren’t suffering? A man killed their mother, the woman that gave them life, because of some electronic equipment. They are still suffering. They will NEVER get over this, even though it happened three years ago.
Of course they are suffering. My point is you bringing up HER suffering over the 9 days didn’t get across the point of her family suffering over the decision to let nature run its course or not. In your first response, you said that was your intention. Since there was no mention of her family anywhere in the paragraph, you failed on your intent.
You emphasized the 9 days for a second time and in caps because you wanted to focus on the fact of how long she suffered. You wanted to say this guy was so heinous that he put her through 9 days of suffering. The way you have it worded, it would have been better if she died right away or sooner.(I refer to the phrase “To make matters worse…”)
My point is if it would have been better, why was she kept alive? If her family struggled on the decision(again, no mention of it in the article) then they didn’t consider keeping her alive to be worse than dying. So you were making a judgment call as a writer that wasn’t accurate reporting. You weren’t conveying the feelings of the victims, but your own personal feelings.
Surely, you aren’t so confident in your writing to call any criticism on it to be “trolling”? Forget it was me that said it, read the points I actually made, and you’ll see that you could tighten up the story a bit. Even Max goes and re-writes parts of his stories when things aren’t clear or he leaves things out.
This is the last time I am acknowledging your responses. I believe that I requested that Max let me know if he would change anything in any of my stories. I am confident, however, I accept CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Hence, the reason Max is the editor on PYSIH. He overlooks the stories before he posts them. Obviously, he saw nothing wrong with my article, otherwise I am sure he would have offered advice on what to add or change. I am done with your paltry arguments. I am done with enabling you in picking fights. You caught me at a weak moment. It won’t happen again.
Well Max isn’t a professional writer/editor. Nor am I, but that doesn’t mean I can’t see mistakes.
He obviously overlooks things in his own stories, so what makes you think he wouldn’t in yours as well? You don’t think that once it makes it past him that it is perfect do you?
And that is not to say that you are a BAD writer or that Max is a bad editor. But this particular article could use some fine-tuning.
Don’t take the bait, Navy. None of us are professional writers, and we don’t need know-it-all TROLLS nitpicking the stories. I am sure if he want’s to critique writers, he could go to his local paper. If it’s anything like mine, the writers are mostly illiterate and they ARE professionals.
Oh will you shut the fuck up already stapler. Is there anything that you’re NOT a fucking expert on. I think you might possible be the most arrogant, egotistical, superficial, annoying asshole to ever grace the pages of PYSIH, and that’s saying something, what with James and Spanky-the-child-molesting-racist-Clown as your predecessors. This is absolutely the last time I’m ever going to respond to you and your increasingly predictable comments, because I refuse to play your game anymore. Tell you what, why don’t you start up your own blog, and I’ll come and repeatedly argue my point of view ad nauseum, and see if it doesn’t grow as tiresome for you as you have become for me.
You’re single, and you live alone, isn’t that right? Has to be, because anyone who spent more than a few days in the same house with you would either end up shooting you in your big mouth or eating a bullet themselves.
I just hope you realize that you’ve changed nothing here. I”ll continue doing things the way I’ve always done them, because in spite of your opinion of me and my people, I know in my heart that our motives are what I say they are and out hearts our in the right place. Not even someone as incredibly annoying and self righteous as you are will ever convince me otherwise.
One things for damn sure, you could never do what I do as well as I do it. You have to give of yourself to put the hours I put into this site. You have to care about other people to have the empathy one needs to write a decent story about the things I write about. You are incapable of doing either of those things, because you’re just so in love with yourself there’s no room for anyone or anything else. I’m not saying there aren’t plenty of folks who could do a better job of running this site – unlike you, I’m not so egotistical as to believe something like that – but I’m as sure as I can be that you couldn’t do it.
So you can take you dog and pony show somewhere else, or you can stick around here, I truly don’t give a fuck. I’ll do just fine either way.
I thought the last was the last time you were going to respond to me?
And I do have a blog, let’s have a game to see who can find it.
And I don’t really expect you to stop deluding yourself. From what I gathered some of you have been here for a couple of years and started out as lurkers moving up to writers. So I don’t expect you to know unbiased if it was to jump up and bite you in the butt. You can keep saying that when you write in excruciating detail how some guy is slicing up the face of a child, that you are doing it for the good of the victim. Because surely you couldn’t help them without such details.
And you are right, I could never do what you do. I could never sit in my pretend kingdom throwing judgment at every perceived sicko in the news. True empathy goes beyond the victims. Can I feel empathy for a killer that had a childhood that helped shape them without condoning his actions? Yes. All these victims you claim to write about, what do statistics say is likely to happen to them in the future? They are future subject matter for this site.
That is why I approach concepts like breaking the cycle and looking at the events that push a person to this point. Writing articles about them, torturing them, killing them, etc isn’t going to do away with the problem. Because the problem is bigger than them. Maybe one day you will have an epiphany and see that. And when that happens, the world is one person closer to being a better place.
Stapler: “And I do have a blog, let’s have a game to see who can find it.”
I have a better game: Let’s not!
lol Sorry, I think curiosity will get the better of people.
No one could ever be as much as a general douche as James, Max. But you all know I am partial to that one. LOL.
thatsmystapler- You have a lot of nerve saying that Max is not a writer. If I’m not mistaken, Max’s writing is all over this website. Max IS a writer. I call myself a writer, because I actually write- not here- but I write. Where do you write?
That is really rude to insult the writers on a website you’ve obviously enjoyed stirring up the shit in.
And on thop of that, the dead horse that you keep beating has nothing to do with this story or writing in general. Re-read what you’ve written with a critical eye. Your points are just irrelevant.
Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
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It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to get that the bloody end of a truck that just killed someone would be considered a weapon and would be evidence. Do you really need things that spelled out for you? Everyone else seemed to understand that.
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Actuallly, Navy, the family should be commended for holding the truck for investigation. So many other POSs would have happily taken it to the car wash for their family member.
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Glory- The ATV was the actual item that pinned Tracy to the wall. That was left at the scene. I did some more digging today and found that the judge sentenced Steve to life in prison. That little tidbit escaped my research when I wrote the story. So rest easy, Steve isn’t going anywhere.
http://www.journalismethics.ca/research_ethics/nature_of_journalism_ethics.htm .. Just to alieviate any future arguments about the role of journalists (which is basically what the writers here, and on other internet forums are.. right?) .. It makes some really interesting points.. and it’s unbiased.. Check it out.. I promise it’s not spam (or a rickroll.. lol.. )
“Bourgeois’ attorney argued that because of Steve’s history of mental illness, he could not have formed the criminal intent necessary to be convicted of first degree murder.”
He sure as hell formed the understanding of how an now motherless crying 8 year old -poor kid- on the witness stand was going to screw his pathetic attempts !
Absolutely. Steve was a sicko, but nobody believes he was actually mentally ill. Small town, Jessica. Less than 8,000 people. My dad grew up with this guy, he doesn’t think Steve was mentally ill.
NavyCop, love your story about the bingo ladies !!! Thanks for the chuckle!
Jessica, I do what I can to make it light hearted in here. I don’t like it when it gets toooooo serious, (after all, aren’t we voting to see who we will see in “hell?”) I have one better for you… In 2004-2005, the wives of the sailors on the USS West Virginia had part time jobs while their husbands were out at sea. Not waitressing jobs, either. They had a prostitution ring! Headed up by none other than the Captain’s loving wife! Guess how they got caught….. They propositioned the E7 in charge of the base security department in the enlisted club! When I heard about that, I literally fell out of my chair laughing.
See, I knew there was a good reason my hubby told me not to hang around the mil-wifeys.
Here I thought it was because he assumed I’d end up punching one of them in the face if they tried to pull “rank” on me.
Guess there were other reasons as well. =D
Lol, I had a Marine’s wife tell me she wasn’t going to put her seatbelt on… (Bear in mind, I outranked her husband at the time, and still do) Her husband was a Private, I was a Seaman, E1 vs. E3. I told her that if she didn’t put her seatbelt on, I would have her banned from every gate. She flipped me off and drove right on past, only to be caught by one of the other MPs and ticketed. The next day, I directed her to the Random Anti-terrorism Measure search area, just to piss her off. So mil-wives try to pull rank on military personnel, too, not just other mil-wifeys. :)
They guy is mentally ill???
So if he did not know right from wrong, why did he not slam his truck into the garage more often???? Because it’s a bad thing to do!
Why didn’t he hit people with axes more often??? Because it’s a bad thing to do!!!!
Like on his first date, why didn’t he go to the old Whalhom Park drive around and talk of child hood memories, then drice the car into the lake as to make new memories??? Because its a bad thing to do!!!
So because he’s mentally ill, he can not be fully punished for the bad things he does….
So at 56 he’ll be free, while the children will still be haunted with nightmares……
I am willing to bet that if this guy messed up on his income taxes, his mental illness would not save him from anything!
LMAO! I just choked on a donut! Need some coffee to wash it down…..
Great writeup Navy.
Yeah, I have issues with the whole mental illness thing too. The INTENT of the law is to prevent us from punishing people who are incapable of knowing right from wrong. It’s the same principle as not punishing a toddler for accidentally shooting another child. The action was bad, but the baby didn’t understand that.
As Fred pointed out, this guy seems to have been quite capable of knowing right from wrong. The defining proof though is in the fact that he fled after he attacked. If a person truly has no knowledge that their action is wrong, they don’t try to cover it up or flee. If they try to conceal the crime or escape punishment, they clearly are aware that their action was “wrong”.
The lawyer could only have expected that defense to work with a bleeding-heart jury. MA? Yeah, they might get one up there, lol.
Oh Maz, I’m done with trolls. I am going to stick to agreeing with Fred. None of this matters in the long run. I only go on here to vent my pissed-offedness so that I don’t rear-end anybody on my drive home up I-95 north (Boston drivers suck ASS!) The most I do now is flip them off as I cruise by. :) By the way, Mazzi, thanks. I tried to do my best on that, but the crime just rocked our whole town. People still talk about it down at the gas station (I hang out there, as my truck is in the shop nine times out of ten.) Nobody thought he was capable of it. Dad considered this guy a friend for the longest time. Steve’s nephew used to work for my folks, for crying out loud. I know this family. I used to ride my bike up there all the time. So yeah, I do have personal feelings about this. I’m not Fox news, I don’t have to be fair and balanced, right?
Of course not. Who would want fair and balanced? It is much better to be emotional and judgmental. That goes so much further in life.
Also NOT being fair and balanced supports the argument that this site is Yellow Journalism that much more. So please continue doing what you are doing.
Is that your catchphrase of the week? Are you so proud of yourself for mastering it that you have to show it off like a toddler fresh out of diapers and in their brand new pair of superman undies?
Pull-ups actually.
I’m a big kid…NOW!
Really? You’re surprising me!
Stapler,
Ok, I’ve been reading your bullshit now for a couple of days. I can’t say that I’m offended or that my “buttons” have been pushed. I can say that everyone keeps referring to you as a “he”, but I doubt it, someone that likes and thrives on this much drama has got to be a queen. The worst thing about you is your rude. You deliberately tried to hurt someone’s feelings with this posting and others. That’s just MEAN!
I have come to the conclusion that you are far more interested in pissing people off and nitpicking at the most rediculous stuff than you are about proving your point.
I hope that you will fade away into the darkness of your own hole, instead of trying to pull others into it.
Now I can add queen to the ever-growing list of names.
Oh, poor little Stapler- his knickers are all in a twist because nobody is curious enough to try to find his little bloggy-woggy.
Sniff. He probably had a bad childhood.
We should have sympathy for him.
Or not! Hah.
Sorry- I’m kind of in a bratty mood. Reading crap from idjits just makes me brattier
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I used to go to school in Boston in the late 80′s / early 90′s. Still love to visit the area, but now that I am older I love being closer to New York (I lived and worked in the Lower east Side summer 1984).
Gotta admit, I love the Gardner/Winchendon/Ashburnham area myself. Princeton isn’t too bad, but I like the rural areas the most. I work in Braintree, I hate cities and city drivers. Don’t like where my folks live, though. Just up the street from a chicken farm. Smells AWFUL!!! lol. The farm used to dump the chicken waste behind the house back in the 80′s. Yuck! I think my favorite place in Mass is Barre, though. It’s quiet and it looks like it hasn’t changed since the 1800′s. :)
I thought it was well written and everything made perfect sense to me Navy. I hope you write more for the site.
Well, that’s not totally true, I honestly hope this site closes down because there becomes a distinct lack of stories due to an overwhelming number of violent crimes decreasing making stories like this nothing more then a footnote in history books…barring that though, good write up.
Thanks Kenny. I hope the site stay open, because the greatest lessons in life are found in history. History only repeats itself if we allow it to, right?
Totally agree with you in that.
Talking about history, ben Stien on Glenn Beck was paralleling Obama and Carter….. Weather one agrees with that statement or not, one should ask could 2012 be a repeat of 1980????
June 30, 2009 at 11:33 am
Somebody please read that. Brrrrrrrrr. Creepy
Max I think I found someone’s myspace paaaaaage…. Try to guess who it is…
BlurbsAbout me:
-I moved to Utah from Denver in Feb. ’06.
-I’m A+ certified
-I’ve ridden an elephant
-I used to write a weekly article on comics.(see my blog)
-I know tons of useless trivia
-I hate roller coasters
-I’m a huge St. Louis Cardinals fan.2006 World Champs!!!
-I have abnormally soft hands
-I’ve met Chuck Norris
-I was interviewed by Entertainment Tonight
-I was a master debater in high school
-I hate malted milk balls
-I don’t believe in bi-partisan politics
-I’ve been to 5 countries besides the USA
-I think being PC is for societal retards
-I love ice cream and associated treats
-I blame the French
-I’ve dreamt the future
-I laugh at inappropriate jokes
-I’ve got a genius level intellect
-I smell dead people
-I’m bringing sexy back
-I say let’s put the “fun” back in funeral
-I believe people are too easily offended by words
-I find humor in the ridiculousness of celebrities
-I know what defenestration means
-I have yet to defenestrate someone
-I have an unearthly fondness for root beer
-I think tax payer money should be spent on this country and not others
-I think all of the homies are dissin my girl
-I’ve got mad sales skills
-I took social dance in college
-I’ll come at you like a spider-monkey Chip
-I have a plan in case of a zombie outbreak
-I like when food comes out of the can shaped like the can
Any guesses anyone?
Oh my fucking god! What’s the URL? – a thing like this MUST be shared with everyone.
Here it is, Max. You ask, I deliver. And here are a few more that I already posted on the Jodi Ann Arias comments…
http://www.myspace.com/thatsmy_stapler
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/thatsmystapler
thatsmystapler.blogspot.com
twitter.com/thatsmystapler
thatsmystapler.deviantart.com
digg.com/users/thatsmystapler
http://www.bloglines.com/public/thatsmystapler
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thatsmystapler
http://www.ldstown.org/user/BellaVita/guestbook
marvel.com/blogs//entry/330
http://www.thatsmystapler.org (not sure if this is his, but it might be)
I will send you more if you like, Max… >:D
Sure, send him all – He’s such a proponent of free speech, lets see how he likes being the center of this kind of attention.
Anything short of personal information like name, address, phone number or IP is fair game AFAIC. I have a strict policy against posting that kind of stuff.
lol Some of those are mine. Some are not.
Another singles site
http://www.getlaytonsingles.com/newsletters/03-23-09
lol It links to my OkCupid profile. They gathered profiles based on people putting Layton as their city and compiled them on the page.
Nice try though.
Can we cyber bully? Give us the link…. PLEASE????
I am awaiting moderation, but I found more than just his myspace. I think his blog may be called thatsmystapler . com >:)
And he needs to figure out that I am not playing his game. He is on okcupid, by the way.
Shhh don’t give out all my secrets. Next you will find my alt.com profile.
KIDDING.
Or am I?
Also, I apologize for my MySpace not being that up-to-date. I only use it for Mobsters these days. I’m more of a Facebooker.
He’s definately not a hottie….
lol I told you I wasn’t hard to find.
Now I look forward to people picking it apart and assuming everything I say is serious and not tongue-in-cheek. Because obviously, I must really smell dead people.
Though I really have met Chuck Norris. That one is a fact. We should have a game of guess which ones are true.
PS- My MySpace was not the blog to which I referred. So no points awarded yet.
Oh and the link for my MySpace is:
http://www.myspace.com/thatsmy_stapler
Have fun with it.
I wonder if every person who has ever met Chuck Norris feels as special. Because Chuck has probably only met a few people, right?
Wow. I got hit on by Joan Jett, and by Terry Bozzio from Missing Persons. I should probably write that in my blog to let everyone know. I also ran a modelling agency in Santa Barbara, one of the clients being a young Kathy Ireland. Oh, and I worked for the Khashoggi brothers during the great 80s Iran/Contra affair. Does anyobody care? I also met Bo Derek, Julia Childs and Kenny Loggins and John Travolta.
So what? It is really sad that anyone would write in a blog that they have soft hands and that they met Chuk Norris.
Before people get all over stapler, just re-read the pathetic bio. Not one thing about themselves or what they’ve accomplised themselves. We are dealing with a HUGE inferiority complex. They are just baiting here because for them, any attention is good, even if it’s bad attention. I’m going to stay out of it from here on out, because I actually DO feel sorry for them. Their life seems pretty abysmal.
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I kinda feel bad for him now. I’ve met Barack Obama, Admiral Redpath, George W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, Several Contemporary Christian recording artists (Matt Brower, Philip and Natalie LaRue, Vince Gill, Amy Grant, just to name a few,) Gary Bauer, and that’s only the tip of the iceberg. I’ve been to the Netherlands, Germany, Kuwait, Venezuela, and Ecuador. And I still have time to be a parent and hold down a good job. Life is good.
I beat you! Maybe. I used to date the drummer for Waylon Jenning’s band (WAAAAAY back when, lol), and I hung out with Waylon, his wife Jessie, and on a few occasions Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson, among other celebrities. I didn’t even really LIKE country music back then. I did eventually learn to like the “outlaw” country music though, and now it’s good ole memories.
Anyone who knows me freaks out at that story. I am not exactly what you would think of as a country music person. heh.
So he’s a weirdo IT Nerd WoW playing, pysih trolling mormon?
That’s just great. I’ll pass on the fun of his profile since I would guess he just likes the attention and is going to be visit counting.
Also, for the record:
Stapler: “-I’ve ridden an elephant”
You’ve fucked my mom? Shame on you!
lol
Stapler, I like the full beard. It looks more rugged.
Thanks. It was something new I tried winter before last. I like it and think it looks a bit more distinguished, but I think it also makes me look older. And in the summer, it got way too hot and itchy. So now it is a winter thing for me and I sport a goatee in the summer.
Fail.
“-I was a master debater in high school’
Oh, dear. I think that was a typo, wink.
But besides that little Freudian slip, how terribly uninteresting!
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Be advised, Everyone, I am not going to post one thing on any of TMS’s personal sites. I will give you the information, but I won’t use it myself
Whatever. I didn’t say I dug for it. Go ahead and type my name into google and see what you find.
Come and See has no point of view at all – He’s just an asshole because it suits him to be one. Notice how absolutely no one ever responds to his comments. He’s a true troll in every sense of the word.
Is this Jason’s cue to come in and accuse Come and See and myself of being the same person?
Come and See:
I’ve read enough in this world to take everything with a grain of salt, including every single bit of nutrition propaganda shoved at us by the food industry, but that’s another story.
In any case: isn’t humor, by definition supposed to be um… funny?
Because I don’t see many people laughing with you.
It’s ok Come and See. I invited them to look the info up. I even posted my MySpace page myself.
I’m smart enough not to put anything online that I don’t want people to know. They can do whatever they like with the information they find. Even paste my pics on top of pornos.lol
There’s no reason to cyber stalk in this case.
He’s going to come at this in waves. Set him aside and wait for his next incarnation.
I have a tendency to recycle a lot of my information across the various sites as well. I’m sure that is disappointing.lol
And no I am not Navy Cop back from the Sandbox (again) or any of the other NavyCops you will find, except right here on pysih
You’re right. I’m done.
Stapler, I will break my vow of never speaking to you again. Look, I know we have our differences. I don’t proclaim to be perfect. Hell, I proudly admit I am an arrogant, narrow-minded, sadistic prick. I am even biased, if you will. I strive for perfection, but I am grounded enough to know it is unattainable at this time.
Good game, sir. I feel like I’ve been playing mental tennis all day.
Now let’s hit the showers!
Nope, don’t do group showers. Bad experience in boot camp. Wound up beating the ever-living shit out of some girl who thought she was “helping” me with the soap.
I won’t directly attack you or your posts. If I don’t agree with something you say, I will let it slide and comment on somebody else. I don’t expect you to do the same, but I will show you that courtesy. You bring out an element in myself that I don’t want to see again.
That’s odd, Navycop. In boot camp my battle buddy asked me to dry off her naked body while she was brushing her teeth…..
The shower stories are freaking me out much more than the crime stories.
I could stand to hear more about the girl-on-girl shower stories.lol
You are free to disagree with my posts anytime. And I always welcome a good debate.
But if you have to garnish the posts with insults, well then I’m gonna come back with some of my own.
I don’t expect the world to see everything the way I do, but I see it that way for a reason. I have no doubt we wouldn’t see eye to eye on the military. But I wouldn’t need to insult you to get my viewpoint across. And I won’t change said viewpoint until the government undergoes some changes. We are all individuals with individual ways of thinking. Some are just more right than others. :)
That really is the best way to handle this kind of arrogance and egotism NavyCop. He seems to get some sick satisfaction out of tearing down other people’s work (idea’s, stories, blogs), and if you show the slightest sign of weakness, well, I imagine it’s a bit like mental masturbation for our boy here. It must be incredibly frustrating for him that his personal shots at me and this website have so little effect on me. In a way, a person who’s sure of himself and his ideals is stapler’s worst nightmare. What can he possibly say to hurt me? I don’t need to convince him of the rightness of what we do here or the truth behind why we do it, I already know that it’s true. He says that I’m fooling myself – I guess there’s no chance that the great Him could be the one that’s having the delusions.
So fuck what he say about you. Who cares about the opinion of a guy that spends his days trying to convince people he doesn’t know and will never meet that he’s right and all of us are wrong? That’s the real power of a troll – people forget that they’re actually arguing with, essentially, their own anger and insecurities. Once they realize that, guys like stapler are no longer able manipulate them into pointless, neverending arguments.
Max ….. Mazzi ….. I owe you guys an apology.
You have obviously been at this a lot longer than I have and your “troll radar” is a lot more finely tuned than mine.
None needed Sam. Staple-boy is a little slicker than most trolls. If you backtrack to the John Stelmack thread, Jason first caught on that he was a troll. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Until he attacked Jason for calling him on it, lol.
Anyway, live and learn. The trolls can’t keep it hidden all that long.
Max…. BRAVO!! There is a reason that we all are in awe of you!
I just don’t give a shit. I offered a proverbial olive branch and he came back with “you’re free to disagree.” Whatever, I know I am. I’m just not going to take the bait anymore. Yup, had a weak moment. All done. Just please remind me not to comment when I look at my own casefiles. It’s all good. I had a great ride home today, because I got all my frustration out on Staple-Boy and gave you guys some ammo. Didn’t flip anybody off, and didn’t give a shit when somebody was tail-gaiting me. Life is good. I’m going on vacation on the 10th after work. I will be back on the 20th. I did my damnedest not to insult him, but he brought out an element I thought I reserved only for the “bad guys” and I tried to do the web-version of a pistol whip. Whatev. It ain’t no thang. (My feeble attempt at hood-speak :) ) Thanks guys, you’re the greatest. And Max? DOn’t ever take this site down.
I’m not the most eloquent person in the world ( I do try, but sometimes I can’t verbalize what I want to say, after-effects of an injury four years ago, but I do try) but I appreciate the fact that you allow us newbies offer up our stories for your approval. Thanks.
Yours,
MA2
You’re a gurlie?
Can you guys get back to the story?
This turned into the wheresmystapler, theresmystapler, whatever the fuck his name is blog.
We should be discussing Mr. Bourgeois not Stapler.
However big a douche he may be to some, Im sure that he does not fit the profile required for a spot on pysih :]
Hahahahaha! Thanks ?, I needed a laugh.
Sarcasm?
I cant read that….
:]
Not sarcasm. I really did need a laugh. :)
NavyCop…..Wow, this has been one “busy” thread. It took me quite a while just to read through all of the comments. Definitely some interesting conversation on this thread.
Anyway, you did a great write up. I am sure it wasn’t easy to write about this crime without feeling somewhat emotional since you knew some of these people. I had a friend that I grew up with that is now on Death Row. I had a hard time at first coming to terms with the fact that the person I knew could have done such a horrible crime. I actually wrote a comment to someone about this crime on one of the threads here. The link to the comment is http://pysih.com/2009/06/05/update-david-gabriel-watson-sentenced-to-one-year-in-wifes-death/#comment-40361 and you can read about it if you want. Don’t worry about the critics. I learned a long time ago that not everyone is going to like you or the things you do, so if their looking for all of my faults then they are doing it so that they don’t have to look into the mirror and see their own faults. Great job on your write-up and I look forward to reading more from you. Just remember that you have a lot to be proud of yourself for…..You are a great mom and a great cop for the military, & you even find the time to be a contributing member of this forum. I always get a chuckle when I read some of your comments. Have a good day!
Wow. Thanks Corset Lass, you’re one of the few people that I have a great amount of respect for. Your comments are not only witty, but backed up by fact…Great minds think alike, eh?
Parole in 13 years? Drug dealers spend more time in prison! I say burn the deal-makers, too!