Katie L. Stockton
I like to think that being from Michigan and braving the harsh winters the state has to offer makes me somewhat of an expert on surviving the cold. I also like to think I am in a position to say freezing to death would be one of the most heinous ways to die.
I spent last winter on the border of North Dakota/Montana—and if facing a Michigan winter didn’t lead me to this conclusion, then North Dakota winters certainly would have. Being bitterly cold is by far one of the most dreadful positions I have ever been in.
I remember being a child and getting ready to go outside to play in the winter wonderland of my backyard—my mom had a checklist of things my brothers and I had to wear. We started out with thermal underwear, next came jeans and a sweater, then came the snow pants and winter coat. We always finished off with mittens, boots, scarves, and a hat or face mask. Every time, we complained because it was so heavy; but, every time we were so thankful because even with all the gear we always caught a chill and had to tread inside after about 45 minutes or so and warm up in front of the fireplace with a cup of hot cocoa.
I won’t even fathom a guess what it would have been like to be a newborn baby girl wrapped in a cloth and shoved in a plastic bag thrown in a snow bank in Northern Illinois during 
December and left to face the elements alone.
Let me take you back to Friday December 17th, 2004 and tell you a story.
At a time of year when the smell of Christmas is in the air and the only bad thoughts running through your head are, “what if Santa can’t get down the chimney”, a 13 year old girl let her dog out for a run. The dog came back carrying a piece of bloody cloth; she thought it was odd and went to investigate. Lying in a snow bank on the side of Will Road, about a mile north of Yale Bridge Road in Rockton, Illinois, she found more bloody clothing and something discarded in a white trash bag. She did the smart thing and ran home to call the police. She did not touch the bag.
Police responded to the scene on the cold crystal clear evening and found the unthinkable. Wrapped in the bag was a baby girl, who appeared to be a full term newborn. Even police officers who thought they had seen every grotesque crime possible broke down in tears.
An autopsy was completed on the infant over the weekend and results were released on Monday December 20th, 2004. The autopsy determined the infant was full term and weighed 7 lbs 3 oz and was 19 ½ inches long; she was born alive. The infant named Baby Crystal by investigators, died from exposure. Something completely avoidable.
Investigators blanketed the area and questioned residents near the dumpsite, no one knew anything. Questioned in the initial investigation was Katie L. Stockton, 24; her parents lived on Will Road. Katie did not live in the residence at the time of the crime; she lived with a boyfriend in Rockford, Illinois. Stockton denied the child was hers and no one knew if she had been pregnant.
The public paid for Baby Crystal’s funeral and the investigation stalled. The case was at a stand-still, but definitely not forgotten. Nothing new came until a year later when it was revealed that Baby Crystal had cocaine in her system and tested positive for Hepatitis B (a viral infection of the liver caused by sexual contact with an infected person or the sharing of contaminated needles or instruments).
The only description of a suspect that they had came from a witness who thought she saw a female with black hair driving a red sedan, something similar to a Grand Am or Cavalier, near 
the scene. The witness wasn’t certain of exactly what she saw because it was dark.
Police checked medical records of female inmates for the previous year and found that 75 were pregnant and 40 of those tested positive for Hepatitis B. They spent weeks checking into these leads; which took them nowhere.
The case lay dormant for months.
After the murder of Baby Crystal, Katie Stockton continued living her life. Not on the straight and narrow. Katie, now 28, has multiple traffic violations on her record, as well as multiple felony arrests and convictions (View Katie’s arrest record here). The most serious charges came forth in August of 2008.
On the 11th of August, she applied for an Illinois State ID card by presenting false documents to a government agency. She was using an altered ID card making it seem as if she was her aunt. She was charged with Presenting False Info for an Illinois ID and Possession or Display of an Altered ID card, both criminal felonies. These charges were ultimately dropped, but they give a little insight into what kind of person she is.
On August 19th, 2008, Katie was charged with forgery. She wrote a check on the aforementioned aunts bank account (maybe the aunt shouldn’t have dropped the earlier charges; just a thought). In September of 2008, she pled guilty to forgery and was sentenced to 180 days in jail and 2 years probation. The court ordered her to give a sample of her DNA within 45 days of sentencing (it is state law in Illinois that all convicted felons submit a sample of their DNA).
In October, she failed to comply with the DNA order. By December 2008, she was out of jail and on probation and still refused to give a sample even though she was ordered to do so by her probation officer. It was the same story in June of 2009. On June 26, 2009, the States Attorney’s office filed to have her probation vacated for failure to comply with the DNA order. There was a court date set for July 13th, Katie appeared in court and denied all allegations. I don’t know what she was denying, since the prosecutor could prove she didn’t submit a DNA sample. The court ordered her to appear again on August 3rd, after they had a chance to look over the case history. She failed to show and a warrant was issued for her arrest.
On August 4th, 2009, Winnebago County States Attorney office charges Katie Lin Stockton with the two counts of murder for the 2004 death of Baby Crystal. One count for intentionally leaving the infant in freezing conditions and one count for knowing death would result in those conditions. Winnebago County Sheriff, Dick Meyers, would not disclose any information regarding evidence leading the charges. He would not confirm or deny whether DNA evidence played a part. The Kansas City Star is reporting that the Kansas City PD, who was assisting Winnebago County in the investigation, say DNA is the link.
On August 5th, Katie was found in Kansas City, Kansas in a hotel. It is unclear whether they tracked her down by using her Facebook page which announced her whereabouts as “being on vacation in Kansas City” or from an anonymous tip. In October 2008, Katie had her probation modified to allow her to visit family and shop in Wisconsin. The court allowed the travel mostly because she has a 9 year old son who resides with his father in Janesville, WI.
Though she had permission to travel to Wisconsin there is no information available stating that travel to Kansas City was permitted. Prosecutors have stated in the media that she was 
fleeing because she knew arrest was imminent. Katie was arrested at the Kansas City hotel by the FBI. The following day, she waived extradition and went back to Winnebago County voluntarily, where she is being held on a one million dollar bond.
Ms. Stockton appeared in court on August 17th, 2009 for the petition to vacate her probation hearing. Judge Steven Vecchio postponed the hearing at the request of Katie’s public defender, David Doll. He stated that he had only received the case on Friday the 14th and needed time to prepare. Mr. Doll also asked Judge Vecchio to combine the cases, but the Judge left that decision up to Judge Joseph McGraw, who is handling the murder case.
Upon Katie’s arrest earlier this month, authorities realized that they had access to Katie’s vehicle which had been in impound following a traffic stop in mid 2008 where she was driving on a suspended license. The vehicle was left on the side of the road and impounded at a later date. Police investigators and prosecutors decided to search the vehicle, a 1993 blue Saturn, for possible evidence in the Baby Crystal case. This was the same car she was driving in 2004.
What the investigators hoped to find and what they actually found were two completely different things.
Hopes of finding blood, hair, or fiber evidence fell by the wayside when they came across two additional infant corpses wrapped in cloth and plastic bags buried in the trunk. On Tuesday August 18th, a forensic pathologist and forensic anthropologist will conduct autopsies on the infants to determine how long they had been in the trunk, cause of death, and relation (if any) to Katie Stockton. It appears the bodies were in the trunk when the vehicle was towed; but it must be confirmed. I am expecting additional charges to be filed in the near future; not in 4 ½ years.
People who went to school with Katie have spoken with the media and some have acknowledged that they thought she was weird and wouldn’t put something like this past her. Some have said its hard to imagine someone you sat next to in class ever doing something like this. Some people have come forward stating that when the murder first happened in 2004 and she was questioned she just laughed it off as a joke. An old neighbor of hers said he can believe she did it simply based on the way she took care of her son when he was in her custody. He said the boy was extremely thin and always hungry; he fed him almost daily and believes that’s all he got to eat. A testament to her wonderful parental skills.
Though this case is basically hinging on circumstantial evidence right now; I will bet all the change in my wallet that the all the circumstantial evidence will turn out to be true as the day is long that this lady is one sick baby murdering cookie. I will continue to follow the story; and I am close enough to the Chicago area I may just travel for a few hearings and possibly even the trial.
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What. The. Fuck.
Long time lurker, first time commenting.
I’ve never been so horrified by any story I’ve read on here, and I’m pretty sure I’ve read them all. This one touched me in a way no other story has. Having a 3 1/2 month old son, I can’t even fathom doing anything so heinous to him, or any baby, for that matter.
I wish I could have 10 minutes alone with that bitch.
CarlsMom,
I’ll join you in that ten minutes. We can ensure that it is both the most painful ten minutes of that bitch’s life – and the *last* ten. I’m so angry at that useless piece of crap that I can’t think straight right now. Since I won’t get any much-desired time with her and a claw hammer, I just hope she rots in jail, followed up with an eternity of rotting in the blackest pits of Hell.
Wow. I’m speechless.
This. Fucking.Bitch.
I would pay some serious amounts of cash to cave her skull in.
Aside from this whole debacle enraging me, it also makes me so incredibly sad to think that these precious babies meant nothing to this cunt.
No. Not nearly enough.
Chain her to the floor. Tak a razor and be very careful not to cut too deep. Cut her many times over her whole body. Then piss on her.
Holy fucking Christ on a cracker, Batman. I thought it was bad enough and then, BAMM, two more baby corpses. What a sick & twisted bitch.
I thought it was bad enough, reading about that poor sweet baby….
then I got to the part about two more dead babies.
WTF???? This lady is evil.
I want to punch my fucking computer screen so hard that IT bleeds. This scum of the earth bitch will go to hell….
This lady is heartless and evil. And needs to stay in prison FOREVER.
Poor poor little babies!!!
I highly doubt anyone ever accused her of being a lady.
Sad, I wonder what her reasoning is. Were they all girls? Did she not know the daddy. how do you get knocked up at least 2 times (possibly 2 more) and nobody notices no baby. Incredible. Where I live neighbors are nosey as heck. I hope that she never sees the outside world without barbed wire and butch dykes.
April,
Actually yesterday the autopsy on the bones, and I am correcting myself here they were bones in two bags in the trunk, was completed. Investigators were sure they were human, but everything has to be confirmed.
Until yesterday it was only speculated that they were human remains, the confirmation came from the experts sometime in the afternoon. There is nothing else known at this time (ie. sex, weight, approximate age, cause of death) all that will take another 6 weeks at least.
I am hoping (for lack of a better word) that they were twins and this lady did get pregnant 3 times and kill the babies…2 pregnancies is enough.
It does happen though, more than we know. My first pregnancy, I didn’t show barely at all. I was so stressed that my stomache muscles were fricken tight and I was able to constantly “suck in” what little bump I had. I lived at home with my parents, I was terrified to tell them, which I did finally at 7.5 months in. They were dumbfounded to say the least. I lived in a tiny town were everyone knows everyone and what everyone is doing at every moment of every day. I worked in the “main” hotspot as a waitress right to the end. You could imagine how shocked everyone was when all of the sudden I have a baby……..
ah i know what you mean, Casey Anthony is a prime example. Are you guys aware of her case? You have to be, she was on the news and on Nancy grace every day for almost a year. She hid her pregnancy till she was 8 months too. Never wanted her daughter, claimed a nanny stole her, and never called the cops for a month. partied hardy for that whole month- I can’t wait to see that trial, I really hope you guys can put that story up- it fits right on in with the rest here.
This woman could have given the babies to a fire station for goodness sake- why kill them? Poor babies :( My youngest (age 14 months) has recently got a very infectious bump, and I’m in agony over how much pain she is in, I can’t imagine putting a baby through pain intentionally. I hope she gets life at the minimum.
Uhm..Caylee was almost 3 when she was murdered..not a newborn.
I agree, neither woman should see the light of day, but I’m pretty sure that Casey only hid her pregnancy for like, the first three months.
Her mother actually wanted her to get an abortion, and she decided against it.
Ironic, isn’t it?
I actually thought Casey Anthony was going to give her baby up to a friend, but her mom got livid over that idea because Casey was going to have that baby no matter what. I could be wrong but I honestly think that’s what I heard.
You’d have to be living under a rock to not be aware of the Caylee case… but it doesn’t sound like you know much about it?
Carlsmom says
I wish I could have 10 minutes alone with that bitch.
Maelstrom says
I would pay some serious amounts of cash to cave her skull in.
Now either you guys are unimaginative or a lot nicer than I am. What I would do to a skank of this caliber would in the least take me days. I have been exposed to frostbite before the freezing isn’t the most painful part it’s the thawing that brings tears to your eyes. This is what I would subject this whore to, constant freezing and thawing of the extremities. When I first saw this story I thought about you guys and pointed it out to the wifey, as being a great story to run with. Again all the evidence is not in yet, but from what it looks like to me is this bitch was finding it easier to simply throw away her children than to get an abortion. Now personally I don’t believe in abortions, but an abortion would have been a lot more humane than what this whore had in store for her own offspring.
what’s worse is, she did this in a state where the safe haven law is in effect, and has been for a while.
She could have dropped the infants off in a nice warm hospital, instead of one in the woods to freeze and the other two in a trunk to suffocate on carbon monoxide emissions.
I wonder why these two infants found in the trunk weren’t noticed the whole time they were in there..were they covered up?
The car was in impound for a year, and I guess no one really had a reason to search it.
As for no one finding them prior to it being impounded, I can’t answer why. No one is exactly sure how long they have been in the trunk, I will update as soon as autopsies are completed and results are known.
I have never replied on here (seriously never) I’m not even sure if i believe in a hell but, this story sickens me to the core. That selfish excuse for a woman disgusts me. You must have to really hate yourself to do this to your own child. I am wondering do you get the impression that the two babies found in the trunk of the car were twins? I just recently gave birth and oh i wished for twins! I just don’t understand what kind of person could do this to a precious little baby. Especially when there are so many people out there who would have loved to adopt these babies and loved them. I think this b@tch, Casey Anthony, and Mellissa Huckaby should rot together!
I think it’s the opposite. I don’t think she hates herself at all. I think she loves herself more than anything in this world. I think it would take an extremely selfish person to do what she seems to have done or to have been doing, and if she didn’t get caught, she’d keep doing it. How selfish does someone have to be to have sex, not once, but at least twice (if they are twins) unprotected, then hide the pregnancy, kill the baby(s) and do it all over again. Oh, and didn’t she laugh about it? I think that is because she loves herself too much. She loves how she feels when having sex, to the point that she gets lost in her lust and forgets about the pill or insisting on a rubber. She loves her life as a single person with no responsibilities so much that she is willing to kill for it, not once, but multiple times. Who knows how many times she has actually done this. To her, babies are just a nasty throwaway byproduct of life that she loves too much to do the world and these babies the favour of ridding it and them of herself. If she truely hated herself that much, she could easily kill herself, but that is not what she did.
I don’t believe in hell, but if I did, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I’m not even sure that I believe in punishment for punishment’s sake, but where threats to others are obvious, something has to be done. I’m pretty sure that in this case she will be institutionalized for life, either in prison or a mental institution.
I don’t think this bitch is crazy. She may have a personality defect or two, but I doubt she is crazy. I do hope she is locked up in prison for the rest of her life.
I feel inclined to say this, mostly because of almost every story we have read lately incorporates or mentions mental illness.
I have been researching this story and everything I can possibly find about this woman and not one time have I found anything about her suffering from any kind of mental problem whatsoever. Whatever she did she did with an open and clear mind- if she uses an insanity defense she has no prior diagnosis to base it on.
Yeah- like I said, I think it’s just staight up selfishness that caused this chick to do this. Pure and simple.
my thoughts exactly
I am almost wondering why all of a sudden she started murdering babies? I mean she had a son at the time of the first murder, he would have been 4 then- I have read that she wasn’t much of a mother to him but she was a billion times better in comparison to him than she was the others, since he is still alive.
Maybe the fact that his father jumped in and whisked him out of her care played a big part in that.
Maybe she thought killing the newborns was a better idea than someone else raising them. One of them “if I can’t have you, no one will” mentalities.
I don’t know, I don’t think Ill ever understand, which is a good thing. If I did understand, I would be really scared.
I would be inclined to think it was the father stepping in on the boy’s behalf, thankfully. Maybe there is pressure too from the boy and/or the father on her to be more of a mother to him, so she decided to keep future pregnancies secret and deal with them in her own “special” way so she could avaid further motherly pressures. Who knows why selfish, sick-minded people do the things they do. You would think just handing the baby over for adoption would be easier on one’s mind then the thought of spending time in jail. An abortion even easier.
I knew katie when her son was young…she dated my best friend for years. She very rarely had her son. I think I met him just a few times. The father and her parents pretty much cared for the kid.
Holy Shit! Three dead babies!
I can’t being to fathom how you could do this.
Wear a fucking condom jesus christ!
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!
Jesus!!!!!! Leave the damn baby in a public bathroom. Leave her in a library. Leave her in a hospital lobby. Leave her somewhere where someone will find her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are all kinds of legitimate reasons why a parent might not want their baby. But how can someone fucking throw a baby away like garbage? I would be horrified to hear of someone doing this to a puppy or a kitten, even a freaking rat. It’s beyond cruel.
To do it to a human baby is far, far beyond my ability to understand.
If by some extraordinary turn of events Katie turns out to be innocent, I take it all back. Otherwise, I hope the same hot pepper/poison ivy/broken glass encrusted hot poker that I wished up Katherine Nadal’s ass is firmly rammed up Katie’s sick, twisted rectum as well.
Justin,
Oh man, your descriptive nature always makes me laugh, and this post had me giggling like crazy. Which is always such a good thing considering the circumstances surrounding this horrific story.
Thanks. :)
Sterilize her with a hot poker fast!
SAFE HAVEN LAWS
Why do these selfish, ridiculous twats never use safe haven laws? I will have to see if this state has one. Fucking unreal. Selfishness of this magnitude is something I cannot understand. I hope that there are some angry, violent mothers locked up in whatever pen this skank ends up in.
On a more horrible but practical note, if the babies were healthy and white, the stupid cunt could have bartered with adoptive parents to have her rent paid, her food and utilities paid, etc. etc. while she was pregnant, then handed over the baby after giving birth in a hospital. Then she could have done it all over again if she wanted to, or screwed up and got pregnant again. Use your head, for Christ’s sake! It could have been a win-win situation! Childless couple now has a baby, and your stupid ass is free to get pregnant however many times you want, you dumb bitch!
Indeed, but her baby was born with cocaine in her system and Hep B. The child still could have lived a wonderful life, but she wouldn’t have been bought at a premium.
And now you are all free to scream “RRRAAAAACIST!” at me.
IIRC, your comment is statistically accurate. Very unflattering to our entire society, but statistically accurate. So no, you’re not being racist.
This one need to be pushed infront of a slow moving train, something that will kill her, but not instantly.
The Waterbury Branch of Metro North has a restricted speed limit because it’s a “dark” frieght line….. the perfect place for this POS to die and start her decent…..
Is it just me or is the use of burn, baby burn a bit insensitive ?
Considering what this “woman” did to her own children, believe me, it’s just you.
no i was talking about the murderer
I was talking about its use in an article about an infant that died of exposure
no i wasnt talking about the murderer
I was talking about its use in an article about an infant that died of exposure
You know sam, I considered that when I made up the poll, and you’re not at all off base with your concern. In the end, I liked the irony of the answer “Burn baby, burn” and hoped people would see that.
Oh right cool ,
I mean, I wasnt overly concerned with it my self , she clearly was a horrible human being if she could do that to a baby and I did know it was in reference to her .However there are some overly sensitive (and overly vocal) souls in the world (particularly here in Britain) who would take offence and let you know about it .
Well that more than obvious little bit of irony went SWOOSH, right over my head. I suppose that also explains why I put the milk in the oven this morning. It’s been one of those days. Oi.
Anyone want to have a bake sale to raise the money to have this crazy, sick woman fixed???
I can’t say anything but OMG! Oh.My.GOD!!!
I usually refer to spaying and neutering as “breaking” because we are taking something that works and stopping it from doing so.
BUT in this case spaying would be an improvement……
I do NOT advocate spaying as a way of stopping people from breeding, BUT I advocate it so that some poor baby is not sent to a hell immediately upon birth.
There are some cunts that are nothing more than the gates of hell -
I grew up in Northern, WI and we wouldn’t let our pets out during some portions of winter.
I am not sure if it is from staying on top of all of these horrible child abuse/murder stories here but from reading the description of the “birther” here it sounds like these babies may be better off where they are (Ugh).
Had they survived to live with this POS, we may be reading another story of how they spent years being abused, neglected and tortured and probably dead in the end.
It is such a sick world we live in.
I do know that frost bite is very uncomfortable, but the pain of “thawing out” is way worst. While the baby had a horrible death,living through something like this would have been way worst.
Mommy dearest will be in perminate thaw mode….
aha yes she will. I was arrested 3 times for marijuana, all in my teen years. and the jails are very very very cold :(
LOL I WAS ARRESTED FOR HAVING AN EMPTY ROACH IN MY PURSE IN ANOTHER COUNTY!!!!!! A NO TOLERANCE COUNTY. I GOT 6 MONTHS PROBATION AND HAD TO PAY A TOTAL OF ABOUT 5000$. THEY TRIED TO GET ME WITH “INTRODUCTION OF CONTRABAND WITHIN A FACILITY” A FELONY, BUT WAS DROPPED BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE FOUND IT BEFORE I WAS INCARCERATED. I got bailed out everytime… but it’s ridiculous. I shudder to think about how many people are in jail for some measly pot, and can’t afford to get bailed out….
Some times I am amazed on which crimes the police and the system in general come down on and which behaviors they let slide – all in the name of “rights”…….
I was in an small fender bender and because I could not produce an insurance card right away, I was told that I could be arrested and that it was a major crime because I was over state lines. I told the cop to do what he has to do and that I deserve to be there with the murderers and rapists……….
LJ, I was thinking the same thing–about the kind of life these poor kiddos would have had if they’d lived and mom had kept them. From what I can tell from the article, she was a piss-poor mother. Not that death is better for the infants, of course. It’s just a shame all the way around. Why, oh why, do worthless excuses for human beings continue to get knocked up? These poor babies were going to be screwed no matter what happened, unless mom chose to give them up for adoption…but that would have been the RIGHT thing to do, and I supposed that’s too much to expect from someone like this.
look at her smug expression I would slap the teeth outta her mouth and take a nail gun to secure all her open orfaces. Hope she burns in hell forever.
some people just should not have been given a uterus, ovaries- or a life for that matter. what a piece of shit!!!! i’m sure we’re gonna hear how she had a hard life, abused, picked on in school, blah blah blah. take her dead ass out in the woods to freeze like she did her daughter.
what kind of depraved humans are we living amongst? i am (this close) to becoming a vigilante . my hands itch to hit this bitch…
i’m a mother of 2, but i’m all for the spaying and nuetering of convicted child abusers, child murderers and pedophiles. to think a woman did this more than once (and once was more than enough!) is heartbreaking. i say forced sterilization for her, and locked in a room with a 24 hr feed of children crying and laughing
Sometimes i like to see the difference between the US and European differences in opinions on legal matters and this site is the best place to see it .
America seems more concentraited on revenge im sure this women in many states could be put to death
Europe is more about seeing them as a broken human and treating them as such
Our legal system focuses on a process of exclusion. We have a strong puritanical bend in this nation, mainly because when Europe got tired of anyone they either killed them or deported them to a colony. Surprise, surprise, we didn’t have anywhere to send them so we built prisons for them and continued an exclusionary role.
That exclusion system is further complicated by entitlement and a demand for the mob’s participation. Europe has a 1000+ year streak of classicism that dissolved into a comfortable acceptance of what comes and goes. The United States remains restless, a mob contained only by an acceptance of a strict set of preconceptions and rules that we mostly play by. Europe doesn’t need these rules, they have a tradition and acceptance where boundaries are weaker, but positions are more rigid. If we didn’t satisfy the mob with participation, then the mob would choose a position of authority.
Oh man…there is so much in both of these comments I could sit here and rip them apart all night but I have stuff to do, so I’ll keep it short-n-sweet and just say this is a double load of bullshit.
And this…
“Europe is more about seeing them as a broken human and treating them as such”
Come on. Does this mean people in Europe don’t know that-
A) Some things are so broken they can’t be fixed, and
B) When something is proven to be dangerous (as in it KILLS PEOPLE) it should be fucking DESTROYED?
Hello! That. Is. Really. Dumb. No wonder (literally) boatloads of people in the last few centuries have left Europe to live elsewhere!
So yeah, now I’m taking my Ugly American mob-participating ass out to the laundromat, but I eagerly anticipate your smugly superior rebuttal, gentlemen!
also on the note of people leaving europe over the past few hundred years .
I would like to point out that it is only in the latter half of the 20th century that most European nations abolished the death penalty (Russia and Belarus are the only two to retain it I believe and Russias last execution was more than 10 years ago)
but up untill then we were rather found of executing people in Britain it was punishable by death to steal a rabbit until 1901 .
After WW2 Stalin suggested at the Potsdam conference to Churchill and Truman that they execute most of the former Wermacht .
However our merry little peninsula of Europe has given a horrible life to many of our former inhabitants from irish potato famines to Russian pogroms to Bitter Italian civil wars . Infact Europe had been in an almost constant state of war for nigh on a 1000 years when the 2nd world war ended.
So many people left to live in the vast empires european nations had established and many more left to the one that got away .
I dont bash America because for 250 years you have been the light of freedom to many people and a becon of hope and she helped liberate us when europe fell into the dark abyss of nazi opression .
America was the child of old europe and the mother of new europe .
Europeans particularly the french might always be grudging about it but theres no one else we’d rather have leading the world that the good ol’ US of A
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
I read this site a lot, but some of these stories baffle me. As a young woman myself approaching 24 in just about a month, I cannot even fathom giving birth to a child only to throw it aside. If she never wanted the children, THEY FREAKING GIVE OUT CONDOMS AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
How can she go through labor and not feel some physical attachment to this child? Adoption is a perfectly acceptable thing and with how many couples that are in limbo, patiently awaiting their own bundle of joy… I just wish I could spit in her face. Just sayin’.
Now, there are three children who could’ve been loved and cared about for the duration of their existence and yet had to die. Hell, I’m even pro-choice… ! She just didn’t have to do this. Uuuugh.
This seriously pisses me off in so many ways…I’m fricking sick of these selfish whores killing their kids (either as babies or children) and throwing them away like garbage…I’m 37, married, financially secure and I want a child quite badly…but even if you are young, dumb and poor, normal folks want and love their kids and want them to have a better life. ARGh…
Wow. This was sad enough when it was baby Crystal being the only victim… But then 2 more? Wow. Seriously, I was not expecting that at all. Let’s just hope to God that there aren’t more that she did the same thing to.
I can just see the defense attorneys playing the “post partum depression” card.
I can see that happening too, but I want to know how she knew she was suffering from it?
I mean, the babies had to be killed almost immediately after birth since no one seems to remember her being pregnant or seeing her with a baby. I guess I can see her hiding the pregnancy as a possibility. However, hiding 3 pregnancies is almost too far fetched.
This evil pathetic excuse for a person does not seem terribly remorseful does she? So I bet we can all list the excuses her defense attorney is going to bring up in trial: Post Partum depression, PTSD, Depression, Abuse as a child, sexually molested as a child, low IQ, abused by men, never finished school, poverty, assorted mental disorders, to name a few, doesn’t matter if none of them are true or that NONE of them can explain or excuse her actions they can always find some expert to say that why yes she was ill, why yes this caused her to act out…and then we will have years of appeals and years of paying for her worthless self as she sits in jail…I think her smug, snarky expression needs wiped off her face with a 2X4 and forget the trial and forget the appeals and excuses and experts..she is evil and really contributes nothing to society
How much do you want to bet the bitch put “Proud Parent” on her fucking myspace profile?
Man, I wish these whores would just do
A.) the smart thing, and use rubbers, or
B.) the honorable thing, and give the kid up for adoption, or
C.) the at least semi-human thing, and leave the baby @ an ER.
Don’t these trashbags know how to read?
Or D) Perform a pre-conception abortion…. Swallow it, already!
Recent new reader, first time poster here…and I reacted like the cops did. I’m a 25-year old daddy of 3. Most of the stories on here make me angry, or at least shake my head, but this one brought me to tears. People like this are beyond human help. Back in ancient times, we all would have thrown rocks at her until she died or cut off her head, no matter if you were a “religious” or “heathen” culture. No trial. No procedural red tape to delay her death for 10 years. Nope. She’d be gone. The day OF. No mercy. You know why? To make an EXAMPLE of it so it doesn’t HAPPEN AGAIN!
Wow, Horrible my youngest is three months old and its summer time and im allways overdressing him, when I put shorts on him im constantly checking to see if his little legs are cold, I wake up in the middle of the night because he tends to kick his blankets off and im scared he’ll be too cold so I go and cover him up. My toddler got so bundled up this winter he had trouble keeping his balance. And everyone thought I was to over protective and laughed at me. And then I read this and can’t belive that anyone could look into a little babies eyes and not even care, Not get that urge to “over protect it”. I’ll never understand how people could intentionaly hurt a child and then just go on living as if it never happened… some people are trully heartless. All those people who can’t have children and would be incredible parents, Then these useless wastes of skin are blessed with these beautiful little babies just to hurt them and deprive them of a full life it just makes me sick!!! I trully hope there is hell and that she burns in it!
What is really a scary is these are the children that have been found, who knows how long this has been going on? Just messed up. So much for the Safe Haven Law, but then people without a conscience or those who feel laws do not apply to them it just doesn’t matter. Can hell possibly be hot enough for her?
You know those awful ‘dead baby’ jokes people tell sometimes? Yeah, I’m never giggling in spite of myself again. From now on, I’m probably slapping the joke teller and giving them this website address.
maybe the bitch should have kept her legs closed and she wouldnt have to worry about having kids and why is she smiling in that one pic
Yeah, I am adding to the WTF chorus here. I am sure that this is maybe a perfect storm of personal selfishness and drug use on Katie’s part, and screwed up parenting on the part of Katie’s parents, but man. 28 with one live child and three murdered babies. Truth is stranger and sadder than fiction, kids.
Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that if they themselves are not capable of being parents to the children that they bring into the world, that there are thousands upon thousands of loving and decent people out there who WOULD be wonderful parents? I guess the same kind of people that don’t understand why it’s not okay to commit the kind of horrific acts that biological “parents” seem to do all too frequently to their offspring.
I think the problem is we are trying to understand her actions of killing these babies against the normal emotions most people-thankfully- have. Most would have gotten help, tried to help the baby, at least give it up for adoption or left it in a safe haven place. But this bitch and all the rest like her that kill their newborns don’t have the normal human emotions, I think they feel nothing for anyone-no empathy, no caring and therefore the baby is just another piece of trash in their life to be disposed of. they feel less than animals because a mother animal will usually protect and die to protect its young, but I think every now and then you get these “things” that feel nothing and there is no way the rest of us could understand or describe why they act the way they do. I bet if you asked her if she felt bad she would just shrug her shoulders and say “whatever”…I do not think that rehabilitation is ever going to work because how to you teach basic human caring??
Then again, I’ve lived in Texas my whole life, and I know not to even leave groceries in a hot car for more than a few minutes, yet EVERY SUMMER there is an epidemic of kids left in hot cars. Closely followed by unsupervised kids drowning in swimming pools. There’s a vast difference between neglect borne of ignorance and out-and-out torture, yet every year it keeps happening. No matter how much attention these cases get. No matter how many times it happens. I mean, granted, I don’t have any children of my own so perhaps I can’t really understand how consuming the duties of parenthood must be (I’m not being sarcastic; I have a great deal of respect for the good parents out there), but geez & crackers, you’d think that each time you heard about another Li’l Sizzler on the news, you’d be that much more vigilant against ever letting your child out of your sight, and that much more likely to always check the car before you left it.
Nutty, nutty, nutty bitch!
Close your legs if you dont wanna have babies.
What a crazy lunatic.
Burn Indeed.
Sorry if i came off smug I was the other side of some beer when I wrote that and it was the day magrahi (sp?) got sent back to libya on compasionate grounds. Being Scottish I was in an philisophical mood about crime and punishment .
In answer to your question yes Europe does know some broken things cant be fixed . However we also know that many broken things can be fixed . We were a broken continent at one time , our empires were dying our continent ravaged by war and fascism and communism taking root throughout our once great continent . Today we are much better and look towards a bright future with all our allies here at home and abroad.
Enough of the political speeches though . I suppose Europe no longer likes the death penalty because it makes you as bad as the killer . No matter how you package it (except in some cases Child murders some terrorists) we tend to shy away from it because it doesnt feel right . Putting somone in prison shows them that we aren’t as base as them and that we believe and hope they can be fixed .
This is disgusting, this bitch is sick. Not only should she get the death penalty but they should give her a tubal ligation without any anestesia (sp?) just for shits and giggles.
just imagine her upbringing? how could her home growing up in not be completely fucked!!! what the fuck???
I hope this heartless bitch never sees the light of day again! It’s so sad to know this breeder was able to have all of these babies and then she brutally murdered them when people like myself would give anything to be able to have another child! There are many people out there that can’t have children or that would have gladly given these three little angels a good & loving home, but this bitch murdered them instead! Please excuse my language, but I hope this fucking cunt dies!!
UPDATE
I haven’t really got anything much to tell you, but I do have a little.
It looks like Katie’s defense attorney, David Doll, succeeded in getting the postponement he requested in the case. She was supposed to enter a plea on September 3rd, however, that court date was moved to September 16th at 9am.
The request for a change of judge was also approved, instead of Judge Joseph McGraw overseeing the case, it will be Judge John Truitt. It looks like the prosecution has no problems with the new judge but has the ability to argue his appointment if they feel its necessary. From everything I have read so far, it looks like Judge Truitt will hear both cases, the one for murder and the one for forgery.
Katie did appear in court on the 3rd, but proceedings lasted for about 5 minutes; other than what I have already mentioned, Judge McGraw discussed several subpoenas that had been issued, including one to Channel 13 WREX. Neither side would discuss the reason behind any of the subpoenas.
A grand jury did find probable cause to charge Katie in the 2004 death of Baby Crystal. Grand Jury proceedings are closed to the public and cannot be discussed by anyone regarding who testified and what was discussed behind closed doors.
I want to clarify something in the original story about the car that had been impounded. The vehicle was at an impound lot in South Beloit, Wisconsin and not in Winnebago county (IL).
Autopsies have been completed on the bones found in the trunk and it is determined that they are human, and there are TWO additional babies in question. Results from the autopsies could take up to 6 weeks to be released for public viewing. DNA samples were collected from Katie shortly after her arrest and is being compared to Baby Crystal; there is no information if DNA from the infants in the trunk match Baby Crystals or not. I guess we will have to wait for the public results.
I have learned that Katie must have been found in St. Louis on a tip from someone who knew her, since she checked into the hotel she was staying at under a false name and paid cash.
Anything new I find I will be sure to add when I can.
~Min
Correction: Kansas City not St. Louis
This bitch is gonna burn unless i find her sooner and bash her motherfucking brains in!
I think it probably would have been easy for her to hide her pregnancy. What does she weigh 800 lbs. Everyone probably thought that she was just fat. I think they should let her starve to death. That would show her true pain. Just stick her in a tiny cell cramped in because she is fat and watch the room get bigger until she dies. Thats what she deserves.
Im a lurker too… this story just made me feel so bad 3 babies it said?!?! :( I feel so sad for her 9 y/o as well
Sick bitch. Put her away for good, tie her fucking tubes, and make sure she never has the chance to hurt another baby again.
I say dry ice her. Burns and its cold.
Where the hell is she getting all of these babies? That’s fucked up, they can’t all be hers… I guess we need more details, but it sounds like the infants were the same age. Which could either mean that she’s a kidnapper, or those babies were triplets.
But all things aside, yeah she’s evil. Someone should wrap her ass up in a garbage bag and plop her in the snow for a while… or longer.
When is her next court date? I live in Rockford and am considering going?????
I’m beginning to think we should sponsor low-cost/free spay/neuter clinics for irresponsible people like this.
I was in jail with her in winnebago in august. and she doesn’t seem to be at all bothered by whats going on. It’s sick, she walks around with a smile on her face. If anyone has a question about the jail or what else i saw in there, reply to my post
I have a question.
Did anyone ever smack the smirk off her face? If I was in jail with her and I knew what she did, I’d bitch-slap her every chance I got.
I can’t help but wonder if the people who take these pictures say something to make these people smile or laugh in their mug shots just to make people hate them even more.
Ok so what happened April? Enquiring minds want to know!!!
i hope she gets her face ripped off by a deranged fellow inmate. she does not deserve to breathe after what she did to helpless innocent babies
I don’t agree with the death penalty simply because she will just die instantly. I think she should freeze to death the way she put her baby out in the elements. But who am I to judge, God will make her freeze to death the way her baby did, or however he see’s fit. Don’t worry guys, she will get her’s not only in prison but in the after. She is a cunt and will get what she deserves!!!!!!!!!!!!