Kenneth Lopez and Danielle McCleary
This is 21-year-old Kenneth Lopez.
As of the 8th of March, 2009, Kenneth Lopez and Danielle McCleary had been dating for about 3 months. They got along famously, like a matched set of knives, or possibly like two jars of pickle relish. Either way, they worked really, really well together and will probably be featured in some kind of parenting documentary at some point.
The couple had recently moved to Tampa, Florida from Illinois, taking up residence in room 108 at the Homestead Studio Suites hotel.
Living and travelling with Kenneth Lopez and Danielle McCleary were Danielle’s two children: a 3-year-old boy and 2-year-old Gabrielle Randel.
For some reason, Gabrielle cried a bit on the night of the 7th of March, 2009. Why, we don’t know.
It could have been related to the reason why Danielle McCleary had scribbled “DumbAss” on her older brother – or it might have been for some other reason. It doesn’t really matter.
But Gabrielle cried enough to seriously torque off Kenneth Lopez. Kenneth, applying those excellent parenting skills, slapped the toddler a bit and told her to shut up.
Gabrielle, like toddlers will do when they get spanked, cried some more.
This ticked off Mr. Lopez a bit more, who decided to take the discipline to a whole new level and brought out a bedsheet.
Once Gabrielle Randel was safely wrapped up in the sheet with her face and mouth covered, Kenneth Lopez took the toddler to pain school, beating and kicking the tot and generally inflicting the damage you’d expect a 21-year-old to be able to deliver to a 2-year-old girl who was wrapped up in a sheet Fortunately for Lopez, the tyke was under the sheet at the time of her beating and was unable to respond in like kind.
The results of the beating could have been featured on the next edition of “World’s most One-Sided Fights.” According to reports, Gabrielle Randel endured extensive blunt trauma to her forehead, a number of bruises and other marks scattered over her body (including a rather distinctive hand mark) and serious trauma to her genitalia.
Gabrielle Randel also experienced a shortness of breath, which quickly devolved into a total lack of breath. Danielle McCleary noticed her daughter’s unconscious and unresponsive condition when she returned to the suite. The whole “not breathing” thing evidently concerned Danielle enough that she called for emergency services.
Emergency personnel were impressed with Danielle’s penmanship in regards to how well she fit “DumbAss” on her son’s forehead. Penmanship is important, kids, don’t let your doctor fool you. Danielle later admitted that she had been the author.
The doctors at the local children’s hospital did what they could for the toddler, but Gabrielle Randel died later on that day, at around 1 in the afternoon.
Her brother hasn’t been handling his sister’s death well. According to officials, he has been having problems sleeping and has a bit of difficulty dealing with the fact that his little sister was mercilessly beaten to death by his mother’s boyfriend. According to his father, Michael Randel (who drove 17 hours straight to Tampa from his Texas home when he heard the news), the boy insists that his sister is still alive, using the definitive proof of pre-existing pictures of her and pointing out that, “Gabbie’s not dead.”
24-year-old Michael Randel told authorities that he had not seen his children in three months because Danielle and Kenneth had left town without telling anyone where they were going.
Kenneth Lopez is being held in jail without bail on a charge of aggravated child abuse, a charge which you’d expect to be upgraded to murder, especially since he admitted to the whole thing.
Danielle McCleary and Michael Randel have had a custody deal worked out for the 3-year-old by a judge. Michael gets to keep the boy for an extended period. Danielle has been allowed supervised visits, as long as she refrains from writing on her son again.
UPDATE: 05/05/2009 – Danielle McCleary Charged In Death Of 2-Year-Old Daughter
Danielle Nicole McCleary, 23, was arrested on April 3rd, 2009 and charged with aggravated child neglect, a second degree felony, and aggravated manslaughter, a first degree felony, according to the Hillsborough County sheriff’s office.
Sheriff’s reports say McCleary was present in the room and witnessed the binding, beating, and compression of Gabrielle Randel by her live-in boyfriend Kenneth Lopez.
Also, on March 19th, 2009 Kenneth G. Lopez was charged with First Degree Murder in addition to the original charge of Aggravated Child Abuse for the beating death of 2-year-old Gabrielle Randel.
UPDATE: 08/22/2009 – Kenneth Lopez’ Trial Moved Back to September
According to his court records, Kenneth Lopez’s trial, which was scheduled to begin with pretrial hearings on August 12th, was moved back to September 24th. Danielle McCleary’s records show her trial is still up in the air.
You can always check the status of these two defendants by clicking on the highlighted links for either Lopez or McCleary, and then clicking on the “Scheduling” or “Docket” tabs. The great thing about using document files to save web pages on DocStoc.com is that the links remain active, and you can navigate throughout the original website just as if you had logged in as a user.
Do Kenneth Lopez and Danielle McCleary deserve Hell?
- Yes - both do (85%, 345 Votes)
- Yes - only Kenneth (14%, 56 Votes)
- Yes - only Danielle (1%, 4 Votes)
- No - neither do (0%, 1 Votes)
Total Voters: 406
196 Comments »



Wow, this guy really looks like a walking penis. No pictures of Danielle? I’m wondering what kind of woman would date a loser like this and allow him to interact in any way with her children. Yes, both both definitely deserve to go to hell.
I know I’m a bitch at heart and god knows I try to be nice (when offered fair trade), but now is not going to be one of those times. Sorry, lord, besides, it’s why I come here. :o)
I’ll tell you what kind of woman dates a guy for three months and let’s him watch her very young children, alone, in the middle of the night…It’s obvious, a desperate, naive, selfish, slut. Deny she may, but to Danielle these kids were not worth as much as she would claim. Driven by lust (she was hooked on this guy), she was able to disregard all sense of logic and allow this maniacal character to baby-sit. And of course the outcome was as most parents would fear it to be. Come on…This guy? Alone? Disciplining your child? Of course the tot is going to end up wrapped in cloth and brutalized. What would one expect? Danielle is a fucking idiot. Lopez, evil, and Danielle, a fucking idiot! She should be charged equally. Guilty, for not taking the same precautions, good loving parents would for their own.
(Hi, Ad. Always a pleasure.)
I seriously doubt it was lust. If she was just a “horny slut”, there were any number of guys she could have gone out and fucked. Instead, she hooked with this guy on a semi-permanent basis.
No, she’s one of the many women who’s self-esteem is so low that they value their relationships with men over their own children. These are the sorts of women who will stay with their children’s abusers, no matter what the evidence, because they’re 100% dependent on them.
Sick.
This is a shame… both of them should be punished! A mother is supposed to be the protector, but she failed miserably as a mother. She failed to protect and defend her children. She let a poor lil mother F’ing SOB keep watch on her children? And on top of all that she wrote obscenities on her son??? WTF! She should never have custody of another child again. And for the Mother F’ing scumbag who killed this lil defenseless child – I hope he gets what he deserves in prison. Castrate him so he can never have children. Enuff said…
Who the fuck writes that shit on heir child? What a bitch. Talk about setting her son up for a life filled with self doubt and insecurity.
As for leaving her children alone with a scum bucket she had only known for three months, i think whiteiris summed it up best with her description of a naive, desperate, selfish slut. Only she left off that she was blind and had terribly bad taste in men. This guy isnt even in the ball park when i think of ‘good looking’ men. Maybe he had a huge penis. That seems to be the only pre requisite for some women. Or maybe he was the only thing with a penis that would jump into bed with an obviously seriously stupid woman within a five mile radius.
Mind you Kenneth here has what i call, “cock sucking lips…” i hope he gets to use them often while in prison.
I agree, her live-in penis does have some DSL’s that are going to feel like some sweet pussy to Bubba and Tyrone in the Big House! And they will probably have to put a bag over his bitch-ass face because he’s uglier than Death backing out of a shithouse reading a Mad Magazine!
There is a special place in hell for these 2. I have a strong suspecion that many sharp objects will be used in conjunction with fire, urine, feces and crisco.
1) That guy is just… ech. Bleh. Poor kids.
2) Penultimate means “second to last,” I don’t think that’s the word meant in that last sentence of the 4th paragraph from the bottom.
And this slut/whore/cow mother gets visitation with the 3 year old? WTF?
How much more inappropriate, stupid and immature do you have to be to lose visitation? This cunt stole her kids, locked them up in a hotel (hardly a good place to raise children) with an abusive cocksucker who she just met 3 months earlier, and then LEFT her babies with this guy she barely knew (except in a biblical sense, I suppose).
Now, WHEN did Danielle write “dumbass” on the boys face? Before she went to her stripper job? After she got home in the wee hours of the am? Before or after she noticed that her penis had beaten her child nearly to death?
There is no question that this guy is hellbound, hopefully with expedient assistance from our judicial system, but how the FUCK does a woman like this get to ever have the privilege of seeing her child again? Strip her rights, and then strip out her womb. Then tattoo her forehead with “HORRID MOTHER”, and let her take the long way to hell.
These child abuse cases are becomming more routine. Stupid piece of shit mom is looking for someone to love her and ends up with some stupid piece of shit boyfriend that kills children for a living. I can’t imagine what Michael Randel must be going through, the anger he must feel. Hopefully Danielle never gets custody of that little boy.
Okay, I don’t understand why this mother gets any visits with her little boy. That little boy needs to be protected from people like this instead of being subjected to them. the only good thing is a “mother” like this will get tired of showing up for supervised visits and eventually will stop going. The father showed great restraint for showing up in Tampa and not killing both of them.
Of course Mommy gets to visit the biy – had it been Daddy who done such a thing, we’d see the gallows being erected in the public square.
I agree with one of the earlier comments about her having a stripper job IF she’s good looking….. she may also be a fat cigarette comping cow as well and will “ove” anthing that is attached to a dick that will penetrate her…. If she’s a good looking stripper than she’s gotta be a crack head, because a decent stripper could easily pick themselves a way better man.
Whle I can not attest to the father’s character, I am sure that she’s fucked him over as she just disappeared without a trace for three months….. As far as child support went, odds are the state was garnishing his wages and direct depositing the money into her account. With all the orivacy rights, she could take the children where ever BUT no one was goingto give him a hint as to where the money was being spent.
Sounds like Kenny is not man enough as to see what he was doing to the child……..
This story kills me. I, like everyone else, think it is unreal that this mother gets to see the boy. I will never understand what is wrong with these women who leave their children with men they barely know. She should be in jail too. Seems like just writing “dumbass” on one kids forehead might be enough for DFS to start questioning her abilities as a mother. As for Ken the Scrotebag- oh I think those lips are really going to turn someone on.
“Dumbass” needs to be tattooed on both of them, then they should both go to prison….
Wait…..She still gets to see her son? WTF? No seriously WTF?
Stab both of them in their rectums.
When will desperate women stop subjecting their children to abusive assholes just so they are not alone? I think the mom’s are more to blame than anyone, they are the one’s who bring the animals into the home.
That’s the question of the decade. I despise mothers who don’t protect their children from harm.
And the point of writing “dumbass” on the forehead of a three-year-old is…..what? The kid can’t read.
I’m going to light a candle tonight praying that Michael the Dad knocks all Danielle’s teeth out the next time she comes over to “visit”.
I was a single mother to my first daughter for a couple years; and I cant say that Ive ever had a man over to my house when she was present. I dont care how lonely that made me, my daughter came first. I dont care what a man tells you; that he will be there or he loves you, or that hes a sane person–theres no telling and I absolutely refused to put my daughter at risk. Who knows he could have been a molester, a murderer, a rapist, a terrorist, or he could have had herpes. All things I didnt want to subject her to. I also didnt want her getting attached to people and then having them leave…imagine how hard that is on a little kid.
I guess my point is that it doesnt matter how hard it is; you still manage to put your kids first–not some dick (penis, weiner, wee-wee…whatever you call it). There are a ton of single mothers out there who are amazing; Im tired of the worthless ones tarnishing the names of all of them–one bad apple REALLY does spoil the bunch.
As for the dumbass thing, my daughter would have probably told me “Mom, I just think youre not supposed to be doing that”, bless her soul–she never fails to make me smile.
I was the same way with my son. I needed enough time to check out their flaws first. I was going to be the one to find them, not my son.
Also, my son tells me the same thing when an expletive accidently comes out of my mouth. “Mama, that is a bad word. You should not say that again.” Kids are so funny. Sometimes you teach them stuff but a lot of the time they are the ones teaching you.
Hopefully this piece of shit will be raped to death in prison.
Yep, a penis with ears…
why isn’t this chick facing any charges? I mean, I know she didn’t beat the girl (that we know of), but if she wrote “dumass” on her son’s forehead, I can easily assume this isn’t mother of the year and should prob. be watched VERY carefully by CPS…
Hello, I am Michael, Bryan and Gabrielle’s father… There is alot more to this story than the press knows. Danielle and Kenny have been talking to each other off and on for over a year or so(which is the main reason for us splitting up). Danielle and Kenny one day(3 days before new years) decided to take the kids and move away and not tell me where they went. As anyone could imagine this tore me up. I did just about everything I could to try and find out where they were, but it wasnt enough. As soon as I got the call I left and drove 17 hours to tampa. As soon as I got to tampa, I got the worst call a parent could ever get, that my little girl didnt make it…
As far as Danielle working that night… She wasnt working… She and Kenny got into an arguement and she stepped out for a minute. When she returned she witnessed everything Kenny did to my angel… Whether she tried to stop him or not is uncertain(she tells me she tried). Danielle also told me that he has been abusing her(Danielle) for some time now and almost killed her a few times.
But anyway… all of this is just what I have been told by Danielle. I am still not sure what actually went on in that hotel that night. But the good news is.. that I finally have my baby boy home with me in texas where he belongs.
On another note… I personally hopes he gets out of jail very soon.. There are more people outside of jail that will grant him the death penalty than there are inside.. Me being the first in line.
Thanks again for all the kind words and prayer and please keep me and my family in your thoughts and prayers..
r,
Michael
Michael, I am so sorry for what you and your children faced, and I think you sound like a strong and loving influence for your son.
What your ex-wife did was so cruel and callous that, in my opinion, she does not deserve to ever see your son again. Ever. She deserves to be sitting in a jail cell. She sounds like she plays “victim” really well.. everyone should feel sorry for her because this scumball beat her up. Well, ok.. maybe.. if she hadn’t stolen your children from you and subjected them to this guy. It’s not about HER anymore… it’s about your babies.
Anyway Michael – please promise me that you will go get professional help for your boy. He is just a little guy, and he may seem like he just “forgets” it, but it is never really forgotten. You need to be sure that he doesn’t forget it.. that he never lets it go to his unconscious, because that’s where it can become destructive.
Your little boy is another victim, and while it is wonderful that he is unharmed (physically), the fact remains that he saw things that no child should ever see.
Good luck to you, and know that there are many, many of us who keep your children (both of them) and you in our prayers and thoughts.
“There are more people outside of jail that will grant him the death penalty than there are inside.. Me being the first in line.”
Were I in any position to help you in any way, I surely would!
Hey, say happy birhtday to Bryan for me. Tell him Aunt Debbie loves him very much. I have a plan when he gets out I’ll be look out for you. Ha Ha. Love you call me. Aunt Debbie
May kenneth and danielle rot in jail and then in hell.
Michael,
Im so sorry for your loss, and you were really brave to come here and read what was written–If I was in your shoes I dont think I could relive it.
What he just wrote makes the fact that charges werent filed against her even more unbelievable. For the plain and simple fact provided in this statement, “Danielle also told me that he has been abusing her(Danielle) for some time now and almost killed her a few times.
At the very least, WHY would she leave either one of those babies with him if he had ALMOST killed HER several times prior. Obviously, there is something wrong with this guy that he probably wasnt going to stop until he succeeded–by killing SOMEONE. She knew there was a possibility that something negative would happen.
She knew he had tendencies and she still left them with him. At the very least shes guilty of not providing adequate care or neglect.
There are many questions still going through my mind as well, and most of these questions will never get answered. I dont know what was going through his or her mind, but I wish I did. And I will never know what exactly went on that night, for the simple reason there are only 3 people that do know… 1. Kenny(and he better hope I never have the chance to ask him face to face) 2. Danielle- Not too sure what to believe from her right now 3. Bryan- I dont even want to ask him and put him through that again… But in time Kenny will get what is coming to him and me and Bryan will move on and live the best life we can together.
Thanks again..
Michael
yes they both need to go to hell not to mention the fact this isnt her first so called bf who thought he knew what wa best for her babies believe me i know i am taking her to court soon along with my husband to get permission she wont give for a d.n.a test to be done on gabrielle because danielle claims he is her biological father and i hope to god he is so we can press charges agenst her, she is a evil vendictive person who only cares about herself and what others can do for her we have talked to her and all she can say is no one understands what happend she was there she watched i have emails from mr randel stating such now what do you think of her
i had no idea this was your post michael but i am sorry for you loss and if she is christophers we will be pressing charges agenst danielle after some of the emails we got from her we are getting lawyers and its not to hurt you you are her daddy you were good to her and took care of her and no one will ever take that from you i tried being civil with you and her and its not worked all we needed was a noterized letter from her or you and you all said no so to put our minds and pain to rest we are going the legal way and we are sorry if that hurts you . we are incredably glad that your son is with you and will be happy and healthy and well taken care of but you know as well as we do that we tried through out her life to get the dna and danielle kept moving and changeing her number she even was so crule last sept to tell christopher he could come to tampa to see her if he stayed with her and did so and i could not come she is vandictive and well some day she will get what is comming to her .if she could of kept her legs closed from the begining and stayed faithfull to you we would not be here doing this today
Looks kind of like Milo Ventimiglia.
heres an update for ya all ..
April 3, 2009
Updated: 04/03/2009 06:26 pm
Danielle McCleary
Kenneth G.
Lopez
Nearly a month after her 2-year-old daughter died, a woman was charged today with aggravated manslaughter of a child and aggravated child neglect.
Deputies say that when the girl, Gabrielle Randel, didn’t go to sleep easily last month, her mother’s boyfriend picked her up, wrapped her in a towel and began beating her. As Kenneth Lopez hit the tiny wrapped figure, Gabrielle stopped crying, authorities say.
She was eventually taken to St. Joseph’s Hospital, where she was pronounced dead.
Lopez, 21, initially was charged with aggravated child abuse. He now is charged with first-degree murder, court records show.
Lopez is the live-in boyfriend of the girl’s mother, Danielle McCleary. She turned herself in to authorities this afternoon. Deputies say she was in the room when the beating happened but did nothing to stop it.
Her attorney, Brian Gonzalez, said he and McCleary were surprised with the extent of the criminal charges against her.
“The state’s theory under the circumstances is that she failed to protect her daughter from the act of her boyfriend,” he said. “I think certainly no one can really have an idea of what a situation is like until they sit in somebody’s shoes.
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Gonzalez said McCleary is going to cooperate with the State Attorney’s Office “to try to get the guy who belongs in prison for this in prison – that being Mr. Lopez.
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McCleary remains heartbroken by the death of her daughter, Gonzalez said. He said the charges against her are difficult for her to handle.
Between 1 and 4:52 a.m. March 8, Gabrielle’s hands and feet were bound in blankets, and Lopez beat and pinned her under a martial arts pad, an arrest report states. The girl suffered bruising to her head, torso, arms and legs.
Gabrielle’s cause of death was compression of chest and abdomen, and the manner of death was homicide, sheriff’s spokeswoman Debbie Carter said today.
McCleary told investigators she wasn’t there when the attack occurred and wasn’t sure what had happened to her daughter, but later said she witnessed the beating and didn’t step in because she was afraid of Lopez, Carter said.
The couple had been living in Room 108 of Homestead Inn at 5401 Beaumont Center Blvd. for about two weeks after moving from Illinois, the sheriff’s office said.
McCleary’s 3-year-old son was in the room during the beating, authorities said.
Lopez remains in Orient Road Jail, where he is being held without bail.
McCleary, 23, was arrested at 1:20 p.m. today and taken to Orient Road Jail.
Her bail was set at $15,000; she has since been released
source was tbo.com
How horrible! Why isn’t this a murder charge? And why isn’t the mother held responsible somehow? And I wonder why did the father not search for his children when they left unexpectedly? Anyone takes off with my kid, even his own father and I would forsake everything to go hunt them down!!
Mother should be denied ALL visits!
I worked with Kenny for over two years. He was a good kid, he did what he was told. He was a tae kwon do instructor at a dojo in the area. I saw him there and he worked really well with kids. Well enough that I signed my son up to work with him because I saw how well he worked with my son. I met this girl awhile back. They were on and off again apparently because everything I keep reading says they have only been dating for three months. I didn’t like her at all. I remember asking Kenny why he would be with her. She smoked, drank, and she was just a rude person. Kenny didn’t do any of those things and he worked at a bar. I guess I didn’t know him as well as I thought I did.
Tae Kwondo instructor???!!! That just makes this all the more disgusting!!! My daughter has been taking Tae Kwondo for two years now, and she is several belts in, but not nearly close to a black belt, which is what *most* of the instructors are. Let me tell you that even at her level, some of the things they learn could be downright deadly in the wrong hands….
THOSE WERE THE WRONG HANDS! They are told not to use their art against others unless they are defending themselves, and though Kenny there might have just been administering a “good old ass whipping” or whatever, he knew that his strength and his blows would be more than inappropriate versus a small child! I know for a FACT that the master of my daughter’s place takes great care to not even accidentally tap any of the children during sparring. What a sick sick individual. You’d think that all those years would have taught him some discipline! =(
That woman needs to be spayed like an animal.
My kids were enrolled in the dojo that Kenny instructed in. We are all in complete shock. The man described in this brutal murder is not the man we all knew. He was kind, helpful, respectful, patient and an all around nice young man. He spent so much time helping and teaching the children with such patience it is really frightful how much a person can change. I believe that people should always take responsibility for their actions and Kenny should pay dearly for this but I can’t help but wonder how he spiraled into this? Drugs? a woman? I wish he never met this woman and stayed close to and listened to the people who cared about him. We just can’t believe this, we pray for Gabrielle an innocent baby taken away so brutally and for Bryan and Micheal to heal in some way and to try to get to some normalcy in their lives. We also pray for Kenny and his family.
Praying for him will not change what he did, and that is the problem.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but I deduce from your post that you, in some way, blame Danielle for Kenny’s actions? Dont get me wrong, Danielle is a scumbag also, but dont you think that instead of defending this fucktard you should be thanking your lucky stars that you never entrusted this weirdo with one of YOUR children?
Perhaps Kenny may have taken the child to a karate tournament. He/She might have gotten a bit-well, unruly, like most kids do, and Kenny could have reacted the very same way he did in this situation. Think about that one.
He knew better if he was trained in the marial arts than to strike a child with such force. And he has you fooled, I can see, so keep on living in your la la land, whatever gets you through not having to think that he duped your dumb ass and it could have been your child dead.
And I dont doubt that you are a god-fearing person, church going, what not, but that has nothing to do with this.
What the reality is, plainly, is you are simply someone who blindly looks the other way at evil, writing it off to being a product of some great, unseen force. When, in reality, evil is nothing more than a collective set of actions and choices made by an individual. Kenny killed that child. That is the reality of it.
If anything, remember, God wouldnt want you to be a dumbass.
Completly agree with you poptart. This person up here said pray for kenny. No pray for the father who lost his baby at the hands of this digusting fuck, and the poor little brother who lost his sissy. You should be thanking god you didnt loose your baby to this bastard and I saw where someone on her said “Kenny did it not Danielle” A mother is suppose to protect her children not watch them get the fuck beat out of them, I mean how sweet and motherly of her to call 911 after the poor baby was unconcious, she should get a award. God, I just dont see how anyone can justify or “pray for them”. Im not a “children person” I think theyre adorable but I doubt ill ever have my own, maybe one but thats it but the thought of a grown ass adult basically attempting to fight a 2 year old goes to show you how much of a weak ass punk he is and she is just as bad. They both deserve hell.
“The man described in this brutal murder is not the man we all knew.”
Some people are very, VERY good at hiding their true, evil nature. There’s a word for that, it is: “sociopath”.
PRAY for kenny? R U Fing SERIOUS? Pray that dickfaced fucktard gets the electric chair like the gutterdwelling shitbag child murderer that he is…. pray for THAT.
Hell ya! That’s right!!!!!
Our anger over this is justified. I hope that one day one of your dear sweet children doesn’t lose his or his way and maybe do what Kenny did or worse and then tell me if you could understand it or stop caring about them or even maybe praying for them, no it will not change what they did but it may give you some type of solace. Kenny will get what he deserves from our judicial system and will pay in jail also, but, nothing will compare to what he faces after his life here is over. By the way wondermom, I do wonder what your kids will turn out to be with a mom that can say or even print the very classy words that you used. And yes I will pray for you also. Try to class it up a bit for their sake.
Blah Blah Blah – Please tell us more oh superior one, for we, the great unwashed, are only capable of feeling anger and disgust towards people like Kenny, who took the life of a innocent, helpless child. Why oh why can we not see the wisdom of your ways. Let’s pray for him instead cursing what he did. I guess if we had known him as well as you did, that might make some sense. Of course, if you had known him like little Gabrielle Randel did, he probably would have beaten you to death, and we wouldn’t be having this conversation now, would we?
Look, I respect your right to handle this situation the way you want, but what burns my ass about people like you is your refusal to let us handle it the was we want. We aren’t less worthy than you because we think praying for a loser like Kenny is a waste of time. Kenny doesn’t need prayer, he needs a good old fashioned conviction by a jury of his peers followed by as severe a sentence as the law allows.
i found out today the dumb ass bitch has a facebook account so ya know drop by and pay her some comments . its set to private but its not like she knows who any of you are . if you arent sure if its her she is sticking her toung out and wareing big sunglasses . yes and low and behold who is on her friends list well her so called distraught ex husband michael oh how soon he forgives and heals from his loss that took place 4 months and 8 days ago .while people who really care wouldnt be caught dead talking to her but 7 days befor one of her trials in which her lawyer request that she not have to be present i guess so she dont make his work that much harder by opening her yap during disposition god i hope she has to be present it would make life lots easier for us all
2 more days till her disposition and the only thing that i hate is that her lawyer has ask that she not have to be present wouldnt you wanna be there when your fate lies partially in that part of the trial wouldnt you wanna hear what the state had and see who else is there to give things in agenst you for the jury trial and wouldnt you wanna try to plea your side i guess he knows she will do more damage to his case if she is there but i hope beyond hope that the state has enough to put her in jail because thats where she and kenny both need to be ,
Oh, Maxx, you are sooooooo wrong on this one. Let us pray. Let us bow our heads, close our eyes and pray God sends a lightening bolt up this piece of shits ass!!! AMEN
Hey Shocked in IL, I’m a mom. And as far as I am concerned, Wondermom DID class it up. Had it been me, I would have told you that you may THINK your pussy is golden, but it’s not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even sorry ass excuses like you. The mother fucker murdered a helpless child. Period. End of story. If he wants to pray to God for absolution, that is his deal. I for one, will not. He made the decision to beat a child to death. He must pay the consequences. I don’t think God is going to waste any of his time or energy trying to rehabilitate little Kenny. But since you know him oh so well, why don’t you? Take your money, bail his sorry ass out and take him home with you. Let him sit at your dinner table with your kids. No? didn’t think so.
And before you critique my parenting, my kids are just fine, thank you very much. They are strong, independent and think for themselves and use the brain that God gave them. And if they use an inappropriate word every now and then, all I ask that it is used appropriately.
“Golden Pussy”? ROFL ;D
Thanks Blondie… I just can’t understand how these freaks defend baby killers, but let somebody drop a well placed F-Bomb, and they are ready to convict.
Too sad.
I don’t know about wondermom, but here are some following words of wisdom:
fuck, shit, dickhead, child killing douchebag asshole bitch. waste of space. loser. fucktard, idiot, prick, freak of nature. These are the terms I use to describe the wastes of space that murder, molest, torture or otherwise destroy others, especially children.
And a couple more: self-righteous idiot, moron, ignorant zealot, bible thumper, enabler, coward and finally VICTIM. These are the more mild of the terms I would use to describe the people who come onto this site and ask us to pray for and forgive DIRTBAGS who murder, molest, torture and otherwise destroy others, especially children.
Again, I don’t know about wondermom, or any of the other parents on this site, but I can say that MY daughter is a grade ahead, is on the honor roll, is well adjusted, has many many after school activites, excels at them ALL, and yet is not a horrible waste of space animal like some other kid’s I’ve had the misfortune of seeing out of their cages. And I work VERY VERY HARD to keep her that way! I don’t need prayer, I need society to clean up its own garbage before my kid gets hurt by some random asshole I can’t prevent from hurting her because of bleeding heart people who think that if you make one deadly or disastrous “mistake” (*cough* bullshit!) you deserve to be out on the streets.
Again, why I not only put my kids into the regular after school stuff, I have to worry about multiple martial arts and SELF PROTECTION so that they don’t wind up a victim. I have no desire to pray for the garbage human waste of society…. I just wish that they’d off themselves before they go around hurting others!!!!!!!!!!
Its almost like i dnt have to comment anymore Alanna. You always seem to sum up exactly what im thinking. All i can add to your post is “A-fucking-men.”
*bows to Amy*
Hey lady any time you really need to have a go at them, I really don’t mind backing down for sheer variety =)
It’s always good to see I’m not alone with some of my thoughts on these matters!
I’m sorry, but did she not get the name of the site? Geesh.
Dear Shocked in Illinois,
I write this to you in an effort to class up a comment here on PYSIH. If I understand correctly, you are aghast at some of the foul language and epithets in some of the comments. That is unfortunate. Almost….saddening? Almost, but not quite. I believe that the intention of the founder was to post stories that would outrage and bring forth the wrath of the general populus.
Well, in answer to your angst and dismay, sometimes it just feels so damn good to vote and send some fucktard to hell (hypothetically speaking) and then to come back at you, you frickin boner, and say, “stow it up your ass!” Relax and figure it out, you douchenozzle, we are getting our stress and upset out on the computer screen, and at the end of the day, we are feeling that much better, because our blood pressure is that much lower and we had a good laugh. So fuck off and shove it, okay? Just chill. Loosen up. Get the stick out of your ass.
Yours,
NavyCop
@ Alanna & NavyCop:
LoL! You both cursed me right off the page! I haven’t seen this thread of woe in a bit, so when I read the comment about my foul mouth and how it endangers my children (like I don’t monitor myself…) I had to reread what I wrote. I’ve said worse to my garbage can pulling it out to the curb on trashnight. Ignorant people never cease to amaze me…
Thanks to both of you… Navy is right about one thing… I come here to stand up for those who weren’t able to speak for themselves, and yes DAMMITTY DAMN DAMN IT!!! IT feeeels Goood!
~WM
dude, seriously?
you are defending a man who beat a tiny baby girl to death, and you think i’m foul because I curse on a website that caters to ADULTS?
I’d laugh, but i am too disgutsted.
As for MY kids, keep your precious concern to your own stupid self. I just have to ask, if you worry so much about children you know, and you are oh so close to Ken The Baby Beater, why didn’t you show some fucking concern for Danielle and her brother. Twat.
P.S.
As a thinking, sentient being, with a mind, a consience AND impulse control, I elect to curse when it is appropriate. And well, I dunno… Baby murderers make me fucking crazy.
Thanks for the back-up, Max.
You are my hero…
I’m interested to see those fuckers’ mugshots; Danielle McCleary is a truly fat ugly bloated bitch. Wild animals kill to live; those monsters that killed poor Gabrielle literally did so for joy and pleasure and I hope they get brutally castrated in prison. R.I.P. Gabrielle, you’re safe now.
Ask and you shall receive my friend. See the update to the story.
UPDATE – 05/05/2009
Danielle McCleary’s mugshot and a link to her charge report added. Also added information on McCleary’s arrest.
Also added info on new charge of First Degree Murder for Kenneth Lopez.
hmm. attractive :)
today was danielles trial she went befor a judge at 830 am and i for one would love to know what she was charged wih and how much time she got michael was ask and refuses to say either way saying if its not in the paper its no one’s buissness he said ,, like he is protecting her the woman who did nothing to stop the guy who killed his daughter . any help by the people at this site would be great . i for one hope she got everything thrown at her that could be ,
and as for danielle she is bad news just ask anyone who has ever been in contact with her she destroys lives and only cares about herself and what she can get from people she is no saint by any means if it dosent get her what she wants or needs she isnt interested she is jobless homeless scum
Wow – I just saw this –
“Authorities said Gabrielle suffered blunt trauma to her forehead, multiple marks and bruises to her entire body, a hand mark on her body and serious trauma to her genitalia.”
Serious trauma to her genitalia? What did that fucker do to that baby? And was that skanky ho watching that as she watched him wrap and beat her baby girl? And what about her poor brother? I hope to God he didn’t see anything like that.
Public stoning. Let all the fathers or suspected fathers or wives of suspected fathers have the first go at them, and let me be in the second wave please. One right in the heart for poor baby Gabrielle, and if my aim is good enough, one right in the eye for Little Bryan.
Oops – link here: http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article985441.ece It’s from March, but I missed that part.
I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with Danielle several times, because she was cheating on her then-husband with my best friend. I could tell she was trouble back then… she smoked like a freaking chimney when she was pregnant and I never heard her speak unless she was complaining about something or screaming at someone.
I’m just sorry my friend got involved with this disgusting woman and is left wondering whether he was Gabrielle’s biological father or not. He’s crushed right now, and is being completely left out of the loop because he was never granted a paternity test.
I’m actually surprised the news hasn’t picked up on that angle of the story, since they like to sensationalize stories like this. Not only was Danielle a horrible mother, but she was a cheating whore, too.
so for those keep track today was a second trial hearing for danielle except the courts have yet to say what happend yet today and then the big trial is july 23rd she needs to just be punished out right already and so does he they have decided not to seek the death penalty agenst kenneth lopez but then again i guess what did any of us exspect i hope one day i get my hands on both of them after what danielle had put my soon to be husband through with denying him the paternity test and emailing him that even if they had the test done it wouldnt matter he would still be just a sperm donor in her eyes she is a selfish manipulative bitch
a little up date the stupid bitch is trying for an insanity plea i sware to god she never doesnt amaze me in how selfish she can be instead of just takeing whats comming to her like a woman she proves once more to be a coward
kenneth lopez’s jury trial is aug 17 yesterday was a pre trial what ever thats fin but danielles pre trial is july 23 which means she probably wont see a jury trial till what september i mean hello how is this justice in anyway
Thanks for all the updates michelle. Could you continue to keep us informed on the progress of the trial? I’d appreciate whatever it. I want to put an update of this story on the front page when the verdict comes in – He needs to fry, and so does she.
yes i will most deff keep you all informed i get tid bits of info from people like i know that as of right now she is trying for insanity or at least that is the way it looks i also know michael randel still keeps in contact with her daily . i even have it on good standing that they have reason to think she was involved in the beating not only because of the writting on her sons head but because she waited for at least 2 hours after it happend to call 911 its insane and my fieance is the one suffering from it all we know he is gabis real father and he wasnt allowed at the viewing nor is he being given the rights to a dna test to put to rest once and for all that michael is not the biological dad its a huge mess and danielle is playing the vic and she is just another guilty party
I’m really surprised there is no legal recourse to try to force the matter… have you guys talked to a lawyer? This whole case is sad and I’m sorry that these people have caused ongoing suffering to many others even after the fact of taking such an innocent young life…
yes we have spoken to lawyers and we were told to try to do things with out it going int court such as asking michael or danielle for a noterized dated letter to the M.E. office and we did she told us that he was nothing but a sperm donor and she wasnt about to do anyone any favors she was to worried about making sure “kenny fried” we then went to the lawyer again and he then told us wait for a bit to see what the veridict will be then to write the judge who passed the sentance with all the emails and such that we have from michael and her clearly saying he was the biological father and see if the judge will not sent and emergancy letter through to the m.e. and then if that dosent work to then go through getting lawyers both her in maryland where i am from and there in tampa but i fear we may not have the money for lawyers in two states . she is a evil woman and very much all about her . i hope she gets time and i hope my husband to be gets the peace he so badly needs and thank you for your kindness and i will as promised keep everyone up to date
Again the best term to describe these morons: Quivering Masses of Chlamydia Goo
you more then sum it up with that one .
only 19 more days for the start of what i hope will be a means to an end in the favor of those who have suffered .
DISPOSITION 07/23/2009 08:30:00 TIMMERMAN ANNEX 801 E TWIGGS, TAMPA CR25
i will let ya all know what i find out after this pre trial
also for those who wanna know kenneth update
Event Description Date Start Time Judge Location Room
PRETRIAL 08/12/2009 13:30:00 BARBER ANNEX 801 E TWIGGS, TAMPA CR22
Event Description Date Start Time Judge Location Room
JURY TRIAL 08/17/2009 08:30:00 BARBER ANNEX 801 E TWIGGS, TAMPA CR22
i dont even wanna get started on him
OK, I better not ask *laugh*.
Thanks again for keeping us up to date.
i wrote something on here a few days ago but for some reason it wont post and when i re write it the page says a double comment is detected
anger doesnt even cover it she did not go yesterday and so they made an exception for her lawyer and the disposition has been moved to oct 1 2009 what kind of insanity is this i cant even exspress how disapponted in these people i am when she didnt show with her lawyer they should sent a bench warrent grr
It hurts me to say that I wish death on kenny, I know him. Had a troubles life but there is still no excuse for this, it hurts me that I found out about this months later. I prey he gets the death penalty, and if he doesn’t I hope he gest the shit beat out of him in prison. I hope I don’t ever end up seeing him for any reason or I will end up in prison. And for his girlfriend I hope she also gets the death penilty and for her husband I hope he can protect his child and for the child I hope that she will still be able to live a somewhat normal life. But kenny as much as it hurts me to say, I hope you die a painful death and you reach the 7th stage of hell
its a he the kid that is with the father ,and i fear nither of them will see the death penalty . which is sad because only then would real justice be done . but as it stands she wont see a jury trial till possably dec 09 or feb 2010 and kenny will see his soon and i will tell everyone what i find out after i know i do know he has it worked out to the fact the state is not seeking the death penalty but know this i dont feel sorry for either of them especially not him but danielle is like a festering boil of a person she infects all those she meets with the lure of being the vic of bad relationships that have all ended by her own doing and makes these men feel shes been mistreated and needs to be taken care of and then when she is done with their money or the attention she ruines their lives in some way and this time she ruined his hers and the kids lives not to mention countless others i hope to god she never reporduces again for i fear that any child she has will more then likely suffer a fate such as gabi did
Does anyone have an update.
Kenneth was supposed to be tried this month.
please let me know, the outcome.
Here’s your update gzfgifts, complete with court records. See above story – Looks like it’s been delayed again.
Never posted before but am pissed off now for Gabriella’s dad.
My inquiry is for Michele, badmouthing Gabriella’s father Michael. What The Fuck?
i never bad mouthed him and you dont know the whole story or what either of them put my soon to be husband through since she was concived ok he didnt even have the decency to tell him when she passed i found out through michaels moms web page i never said a bad thing about the man except i will find away to get the dna done i said to him many times he was a good dad to her and that i wish dani would of left the kids with him so until you know the whole story or live in my shoes dont ask dumb questions
“her so called distraught ex husband michael oh how soon he forgives and heals from his loss that took place 4 months and 8 days ago” WTF are you to judge, and please explain why you would post this. Envy? I have no other words.
why would i envy her she is a cheating skank who is just looking for the next man to give her sympothy and money and to ruine their life . and i dont envy him because he was married to her the only thing that i feel is that it sucks he said he would not allow dani to keep gabi from christopher if he could help it and he did the opposite because as he said “i dont want to push her to hard on the subject” i have emails in case he forgot that part . and like i said he did forgive to easy he talks to the woman who let a man come in and beat her children and then she wrote degradeing things on her kids head and oh yeah she let one get killed i wouldnt talk to her for the rest of my life she was there she could of stopped it the only thing i can say is god will judge her and he will
This is for michele. I think you’re a bitch too. What difference does it make if your husband is Gabrielle’s biological father (he’d be on the way out the door for cheating if he was). But why, oh why, put Michael thru more hell?
Honestly, wanting a paternity test, you make me ill.
i may be a bitch but i would never let any man harm my baby ever and he was with danielle way befor he met me and its important because he tried from the day that baby was born to get dna and michael and dani refused it after he even offered to pay half she even contacted him up to last year saying if he payed child support and was willing to stay with her for 2 weeks in fl he could see gabi and then when she knew he was comming she said her michael and her new bf didnt think it was a good idea after all ok i have rights to judge because michael let the be together he knew they were screwing around he even let chris hangout in his home knowing this ok so that is how i can judge you people onlu know very little i never had a problam with him just dani who would taunt christopher and tell him that gabi looks like him and has some of his mannerizems it was fucking torture so i will take title of bitch and be proud to defend my soon to be husband and a baby who wasnt given a chance by her mom ,, and he did forgive way to easy i wouldnt wanna talk to the bitch after my child was murdered because of neglect at her hands or after she degraded my child by writting on him so piss off
Michelle, I love how you take a forum about a little angel who was taken from her daddy by Danielle and Kenny and turn it around into a huge pity party for you and you deadbeat boyfriend. The truth of the matter is you or your boyfriend didn’t do much Of anything to get a paternity test before this incident but now you come on here and bad mouth Gabrielle’s true daddy and spin it around to make is sound like you are the victims of this. Shut the fuck up already. I’m tired of seeing you disrespect Gabrielle and her real daddy with your pity party post about a damn paternity test. It’s over with and too late for your dumb ass to start trying now. This forum is not about you or anyone else… It’s about the dipshits who kill babies and remembering the babies who were taken from us too soon. Again, just in case your ignorant ass forgot already…. and I think I might speak for a few others on here… SHUT THE FUCK UP
Thank You so much some guy!! I got tired of hearing her come on here and make excuses for this lame ass sperm donor. I have a sperm donor, then I have a DADDY…..big difference!!! I love my daddy and don’t give a shit about my sperm donor. After all it takes more to be a father than to just plant the seed.
Also, she said we tried to get the DNA test and blah,blah,blah but poor ol’ Chrissy poo didn’t have driver license or the money to travel for the DNA test. Well Michele, Maury does DNA test everyday and even pays for travel expenses. Quit making excuses for his sorry ass and just let Gabirelle RIP!! Her daddy is the man that raised/loved/clothed/fed her etc. Not your soon to be husband, by the way dumbass they call those FIANCEEs. Why would you be trying to find out if he is the father now after the fact that she’s been murdered. I know…because ya’ll are gonna try to sue someone. Bitch please stop!!! Chris hasn’t even came on here and said 1 fucking word…you don’t have shit to do with this so move on with your pathetic life and let this child RIP and let Micheal and Bryan live their life. After all that is this little angels father/daddy NOT Chris!!!!
I’m just sick of the lack of spelling/grammar/punctuation… hell, anything that normally makes something readable. I forced myself to get through one post, that was all I could take.
You shut the fuck up its not a pitty party he did try you weren’t living our lives and didn’t get you can have your paternity test after you give me money and michael agreed to the testintg too oh if we paid for all the cost so bite me he wasn’t a dead beat or loser when a bitch moves 5 times in the few years that baby was alive its kinda hard to serve her
Oh and tiffany is it you have a lot to say for someone who knows shit about anything my lifes far from pathedic and if the man was a true father he wouldn’t of let her take them and not know where she was going or who it was she was with he could of stopped her but he figured she would just come back like she always did after fucking around on him cause thiis wasbt the first time obviously . And only sad people with no jobs have time to watch and or be on maury .
Kenneth definately deserves to burn in Hell. However, I am not sure about Danielle, at this time. If, in fact, it is proven that she was in the roon during the whole terrible thing, then she can burn with Kenneth.
Kenneth definately deserves to burn in Hell. However, I am not sure about Danielle, at this time. If, in fact, it is proven that she was in the roon during the whole terrible thing, then she can burn with Kenneth.
Sorry… forgot to say great post – can’t wait to read your next one!
i think im going to stop coming to your site, because all it is is stories about child abuse.
No one forces you to come here, but since you announced your departure..I shall bid you farewell.
Allison,
Child abuse and murder is always horrendous to hear about. No one enjoys reading these stories or trying to sleep at night literally haunted by these children. However, ignoring or avoiding the problem doesn’t help either. And remember, you can be part of the solution or part of the problem.
As difficult as it might be to read these stories, we OWE it to the victims to hear them out and listen. When one imagines what they had to endure, whatever “suffering” we endure while reading is not even worth the mention.
i agree with allison. i also agree with you, Maelstrom. it’s important to shed light on these atrocities and to not be ingnorant to the evil in the world. at the same time, this site has become centered on child abuse stories. maybe she means its just a bit redundant, like “oh, here we go again…”
yet, i suppose if its bothersome to allison or to me, both of us have the power to do some digging for a different kind of story to submit.
Stories posted here are indicitive of what’s going on in the world around us.
Once child abuse moves out of the spotlight, probably the focus will change. Until then the people who take the time to write amazing articles will continue to keep the site an informative place to visit; and will continue to give those who have nothing better to do than bitch, a reason to bitch.
I live by the “beggars can’t be choosers” philosophy, if you don’t want to make an effort to change what you don’t like…than A) leave the site; quit reading or B) make an contribution in an attempt to change the thing you have a problem with.
To refer to child abuse as redundant almost makes me ill, sure the stories here on the same topic fit the very definition, but its almost a callous reference to a very huge problem.
Really? Redundant?
Well, I suppose it may seen that way as a reader, sitting in the safety of ourown little homes, but I can guarantee that each child who has had the misfortune to end up on this site felt a very real and singular pain. This site generates a lot of debate about the laws of our country, it also gives angry citizens a place to vent and also be informed as to the fate of these sick perpetators, as has been pointed out by posters more eloquent than I, but there is something else it does for me, and maybe for a few others. It teaches temperance, especially with children. The stories I read on here remind me every single day of what kind of parent I don’t ever want to be. I never want to be the mom who “lost it,” or the mom who “looked the other way.” And these children’s stories inspire me to do better by my own two kids. I have never been so affected as I have been by this site, in that I now know what goes on it the world, and because of that knoweledge, I watch very closely who and what my kids are exposed to. We don’t live in a hobbit hole, but I know that I, and I alone as their mother, am resposible for their safety, security, and well being. I guess it’s my way of paying tribute to the kids I’ve read about on here. So, as sad as it is, I still bear witness.
Adrea, why is it so wrong for the child’s potential biological father to want to know once and for all whether that child was his? Who are you (ANY of you) to begrudge him that? Chris made the choice to get with Danielle, but Michael made the idiot choice to take her back and claim the baby as his own. Maybe if Chris had been allowed in his daughter’s life, she would still be alive right now.
I can’t believe Michael didn’t testify against her or push to take full custody of his son… if Gabi was really his daughter, I would think he would be furious that Danielle got her killed and would be doing everything he could to keep her away from his own child.
I know if my ex-husband’s girlfriend murdered my child, I would hold him accountable and make him fucking pay.
Bubba is gonna be loving those purty lips of Kenny’….what an ugly sack of shit…I’d like to stomp his face in…
You know I try to stay away from websites like this because reading about what I have already went through only make it worse. And let me tell you something Michelle, I may or may not have been Gabrielle’s biological father, but I did more than any man could probally say they have done for a child the did or didnt know was theirs. I was there when she was born, I was there when she needed her diaper changed, I was there when she took her first steps, I was there when she said her first word(daddy). Now you tell me where was Christopher? Sitting up in Maryland living his life not doing a damn thing about getting a DNA test done. He would send Danielle an email every 2 or 3 months saying he wanted a test done, then disapear for another 2 or 3 months. That is not what I would call someone who deserves to be called a daddy. Anyone can father a child, but it takes a real man to stand up and be a daddy even if there is a chance that child isnt biologically theirs.
And tell me at this point, what does it matter whether he gets a test dont now? All it is doing is putting more stress on me that I personally dont need at the moment. As far as Danielle goes, Yea I should have left her ass a long time ago, but I didnt, nothing I can do about that now, and no reason to cry over spilt milk. So if you want to sit here and talk shit about Danielle, I couldnt give a shit, But dont sit there and bad mouth me about a damn thing anymore.
One a lighter note, I would like to thank everyone who actually had kind words to say about Gabrielle and my familiy. I miss her so much and would give the world to have her back home with me her REAL FATHER, where she belongs. Bryan is doing great. He seems to be coping really well with what he has gone through. He still remembers his little sister and misses her dearly. He is still having a hard time understanding that Gabi is in Heaven and still asks me when she is coming home from the doctors. Now michelle, when you go through what I have gone through, not only in the last 5 months, but the last 5 years, then you will have a right to post on here and criticize about people and what they are goign through. Because I can tell you one thing. Neither you or Chris is feeling a fraction of what I feel everyday.
well i can a say this i never bad maothed you but once and thats when i had seen you were on both her myspace and face book friends lists and i can tell you thats a lie about him only contacting her every 2 or 3 months i was there when he would speak to her on my phone and tell her he wanted to pay child support and see her and she said no every time i have emails where he asked you to talk to her about it and you said yes and that you would do anything you could so that he could have a chance to see her remember that cause i have the emails printed he had no id at the time to travel out of state to be there for her being born plus dani said she didnt want him there then you emailed him again and trold him congrats on becoming a father you told him the weight her eye color the eact moment she was born like you were rubbing it in that you were there and he wasnt , and the dani would call 7 – 8 times a week to talk to chris last year while she was in fl and tell him how much she looked like him and how she wished she never left him and how they could be a familu so no we dont knw your exact torture but you dont know ours either i bet she never told you how she would email him or call my phone and laugh when she would hear us fight that she was calling , and a dna test would put his mind to rest about things too we are all pawns in her game and it sucks ,and he was far from here living the life he got kicked out of the navy because of her he had no job till 5 months after getting with me he had her saying she still loved him and that she just couldnt be with him cause he didnt have money , she ruined his credit by asking him to buy a car so she would be able to take gabi to doctors apt and stuff . so ya know what you are the only victem and he was never givent the chance to be a dad by her or by you we even emailed you for her social so we could set up a bank account for her so when she turned 18 she could have money for school and such and you said no so tell the whole story michael and we even tried to go the legal rout when that baby was alive but she moved 6 times in the span of that childs life and had no solid address to serve papers to get the dna done ,
and as for the things you went through in the last 5 years well that was mostly on you he only was with her for 2 months befor she said lets get pregnant and then 6 months after that she got him kicked out and after seeing he wouldnt have a job said she wanted to fix things with you and the last 2 years was hard on us all
Just out of curiosity, did you ever file a missing persons report when the two of them just “disappeared” with your 2 kids?
no he didnt i know cause i asked his family he was trying to find them on his own
like it or not, i stand by the ‘redundant’ comment.
Main Entry: re·dun·dant
Pronunciation: \-d?nt\
Function: adjective
1 a : exceeding what is necessary or normal : superfluous b : characterized by or containing an excess; specifically : using more words than necessary c : characterized by similarity or repetition
saying that child abuse stories are redundant doesn’t make me a callous person. it’s just a word. i didn’t say anything about the nature of the crimes or that they weren’t atrocious.
but since you’re both so passionate about the subject, you can do something about it instead of bitching on an internet site. maybe volunteer at a crisis center or take in a foster child.
First of all, I know the definition of “redundant”, I did agree that the types of stories published here fit the very definition. But as was pointed out very eloquently by Wondermom, every victim has their own story and faces their own pain. Referring to that pain as redundant is callous. I stand by that statement.
If people don’t like what they read here, maybe they shouldn’t visit the site. (Sorry Max and Admin- I’m not trying to chase anyone away and decrease viewership, but the very title of the website should indicate its not about rainbows lollipops and smiley faces.)
As for volunteering at a crisis center, I have. I have also volunteered at an animal shelter, donated my time to Big Brothers/Big Sisters, and worked as an Emergency Room nurse. I do not just sit and “bitch on an internet site”, I have helped. I have also been a victim and like to think that sharing ones story of overcoming tragedy is an immense help in dealing with trauma. No matter how similar a story is to the next, they’re nothing alike.
I may not have time to volunteer as much as I would like nowdays, being that I have my own family and my first priority is making sure they’re taken care of, but maybe you could pick up my slack- I guarantee as soon as you take the time to listen, “redundant” will be the last word you think to use- even if the definition fits.
Thank you, Min_,
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Interesting you should bring up the subject, Kat, but I have finished 1st level orientation for our county’s foster program, and am preparing to enter their ten week training course.
So, looks like both Min_Duhh and I have met your criteria. Also, we have both been victims of abuse, and when it comes to “bitching about child abuse on an internet site,” well, I think we’ve earned the right.
As far as these stories being “redundant,” well, again, I agree with Min_ and honey, it’s just a poor poor poor poor pooooor choice words for this particular subject matter.
Oops! There I go, being redundant!
;)
Amen Sista!
Amen Sista! Good luck with the foster care BTW- the system can always use a few good mommies!!
Hell yeah min_duhh has other priorities and the main one is moi. I need my meals cooked for me and I can not even come close to being able to pick out my own clothes. lmmfao. No seriously though min is one of the most giving person I have ever met in my whole life. Hell she is willing to put up with me and that in and of itself is not a small task.
I’d like to comment about Michele’s post: As an adult who lied to about her biological father their whole life? It really is a horrible thing to do to a child. I also endured abuse while in the care of a non biological parent. I often wonder if life would have been different if Mother would have told the truth and not passed me off as someone else’s child. Desperate women do hurt their children by some of their actions.
And to Michael: I’m very sorry for your loss, and am relieved that your little son is healing. But surely you can understand Christopher’s desire for the truth and closure. He deserves that. And also knowing a bit about the legal system, forcing a DNA test is difficult & expensive at best when the other parent is in a different state and moving all around hell & back.
These two need very badly to be terminated. Any “parent” whose idea of behavior correction for a young child is writing “Dumbass” on the kid isn’t worth saving, and it just staggers the imagination that this creature has been given any visitation rights at all given that she basically abetted the murder her other child. He should be wrapped up in a sheet and slowly hammered on with basebeall bats until he looks like hamburger. That would almost be “justice”. God only knows how that poor girl ended up with a severe injury to her genitals before dying, but it doesn’t take a lot of guessing.
It never fails to amaze me how people can look at a kid and see something to abuse…as a parent who’s lost a child, it’s impossible to see the balance in nature that takes a kid from someone who has only love for that child, but gives a child to animals whose only love is violence and abuse.
I agree. I am a parent to a 15 month old daughter and I got so angry reading this story. OK, the only people I leave my daughter with is my parents and my best friends, who I have known for atleast 5 years.
These people are so fucking sick. The mother and the boyfriend should both be wrapped up in a sheet and beat with baseball bats. Ugh, I am really at a loss for words.
Oh yeah-and I know the father says that the 2 of them just up and disappeared for 3 months and he had no idea where the went, does anybody know if he filed a missing person alert for his kids?
Hello Navy Cop, VC Becky, Max The Cat. Please
explain to me why my two email acounts have
been shut down. I know you are with the police
department. You can get them back on. The two
emails are CheetahInc@yahoo.com and aaaaaCheetah
Inc@yahoo.com. Looking for answers and trying to get
along with you. Also Aaron A. Meinhardt still waiting
to be hook up to the lie detector machine. He would
like to see this sex offenders stop. His is tired of walking
in on the in places like Smithfield campground and ect.
“Hello Navy Cop, VC Becky, Max The Cat. Please
explain to me why my two email acounts have
been shut down. I know you are with the police
department. You can get them back on.”
If I was with the police department, I’d arrest you for gross stupidity if I wasn’t laughing so hard! Man, you are something else. I’m the lead singer of a metal band, a stoner and a die-hard athiest hedonist. I make police dogs howl and salivate by my mere presence in the same 10 mile radius. A cop, am I? I’d fail the pee test before I even pulled down my pants!
By the way, this is the wrong thread for your post. Moron.
OMFG! You have now officially become the craziest motherfucker who ever posted on this blog. I am in no way affiliated with Law Enforcement, and neither are any of our members (except NavyCop – she’s a Master At Arms in the U.S. Navy and has nothing at all to do with civilian matters.). If I was affiliated with Law Enforcement, it would set back the state of things for those folks for many, many decades.
Max, you are hilarious.
“If I was affiliated with Law Enforcement, it would set back the state of things for those folks for many, many decades.”
LOLOLOL!!!
Part 1 (sarcasm): No, Max, he’s right, I shut his shit down right before I took a vaca from posting. ;) I went through back door channels and did a little lip service and a few deep knee bends and got his e-mail accounts turned off. Hard work, I know, but somebody’s gotta do it.
Part Deux (WTF!?): Seriously!? Really!? CheetahInc, I am thrilled that you think I have that power. I’m an E-frickin-5 in the Navy, for crying out loud! I tell people where to go and how to get there (straight to hell on a concorde jet) both in the military and my civilian job (police dispatcher for the navy base.) I wish, I WISH, with all my withered black heart, that I had that power, but then the world would end and all would be darkness… hahahahaha
Again, all i can say, is an eye for an eye………….your day in hell will be here soon, looking forward to it. will spit on your grave
ok so here it is kenneth lopez did the court thing spt 24 and he goes back on 11/23 at 8 30 am . danielle is sapose to go to court on 10/1 at 8 am thats all i really know at the moment things are moving really slow which is sad since it seems very open shut to me . i hope to have more info for you all soon ,
Good job Michele – I don’t understand why as case like this always seems to drag either. Maybe Kenny thinks people will forget how horrible what he did was, or it will all of a sudden become legal to beat little babies to death.
Looking forward to hearing from you again.
Both of these dirty dickbags shout be cut into little pieces with a dull knife and burned alive. and then stomed in the face on the way to hell
Bill. some good ideas there but not enough thought in to the process or the dee itself.
Please remember that these “people” murdered a child. They obviously never got the attention they felt they needed as children. I really believe we should work to correct that.
Now the use of knives I can not find any fault with. But lets tae that a little further please. Use a small pearing knife. Old, dull and rusty. When skinning or cutting on soft area such as the stomach area please heat the knife ret hot before using.
always remember that infection can kill. We need to use something to clean any wounds we inflict. We don’t want to be labeled monsters now do we? I suggest bleach or ammonia.
When a person looses a finger it tends to bleed alot. Using your red hot knife seal the wound and clean it with bleach. I have read that human urine is clean having been filtered within the body to the point that a person coul drink it with out fear of getting sick. Now I will not test this theor nor will I suggest anyone to test it but the fact that it’s clean means we can useit to clean wounds also. Bully for us I say!
Shall I go on? I could for a long time.
When children are the victem of such a crime I get creative.
she went to court on oct 1st and from what i know she did actually show up this time and is still trying for the insanity plea she has court again on 12/9 which is 8 days after what would of been gabi’s 3rd birthday i was so praying they both would of paid by then but i guess things happen for a reason i just wish i knew what those reasons were
kenneth lopez sees court again in 13 days just keeping you all up to date
kenneth lopez went to court today and filed on 11/19/2009 D001 MOTION TO OBTAIN RECUTS OF THE MICROSCOPIC SLIDES OF THE TISSUES TAKEN OF THE DECEASED
11/19/2009 D001 MOTION/PENDING CASE – SET Event Scheduled,MOP,23-NOV-2009,08:30, Judge:BARBER, THOMAS P.,
. i wont find out how today faired till tomorrow
Thanks Michelle, you’re the best darlin’. I’m telling you, I don’t know what I’d do with out the help I get from people like you. People who give of themselves, whether it’s time & effort or writing or donations, just because they believe in what we do here.
no prob this is just really personal ya know so for as long as there is something to tell on these two i will keep letting you all know
Every time I see this guy’s picture I want to yank his lips off. Look at that emo mushroomhead motherfucker. His face is screaming “HIT ME!” and he’s not saying a word! How did he survive this long? Guy like this never should have made it through kindergarten alive. He’s Just… So… Stompable.
today would of been gabrielles 3rd birthday so keep her in your minds and prayers today and dani goes to court on the 8th update u all then
my name is dani, but please PLEASE dont mistake me for this waste of vaginal secretions. this whole story bothers me, simply because my little girl turned 3 on the 3rd of december. how anybody can stand by and watch your child beaten to death, and draw an epiteth on the other one, is beyond me. i hope their time in prison is very very miserable and ends with a homemade weapon
fuck both these killers,just give her a good fuck with the barrel of a 357magnum and pull the trigger.as for him just stick his ass in prison have him bend over and let him get fucked by every big cock in the joint.period
well said Bo
hell missy ill go even further than that,im 46 yrs old and i would give anything to see just once these kind of killers get the good old eye for an eye shit .just like what charlie daniels sings about in simple man,for all these killers. ide like to see that just once before i ever die.
yes but then that would be to much like justice and people wouldnt know what the world was comming to even if it is the right thing to do
Event Scheduled,DIS,27-JAN-2010,08:30, Judge:TIMMERMAN, WAYNE S., Room:CR25, Room Location:NT this is danielle mcclearys next court date 6 days after kenneth lopez
they have changed the judge and courtroom location for that court date why i have no idea but wish i did . everything as of right now seems to be at a stand still ,
still no trial set as of yet but more court dates to show they both just gave their list of witnesses .
01/22/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,24-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:BARBER, THOMAS P., Room:CR22, Room Location:NT, User ID = DIPIAZZAS kenneth lopez .
01/28/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,25-FEB-2010,08:30, Judge:THARPE, CHET A., Room:CR13, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN danielle mccleary
Anyone got an update on this prick, is he dead yet?
no he isnt dead yet tho it would be nice if he were
well she went to court on the 25th and she goes again on march 11th but i went to her page on fb and this is her status
Danielle McCleary Going to see Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, and Flyleaf tonight. Very excited…43 minutes ago..feb 27 2010 .
she pisses me off like she claims she is so broken up over it she cant sleep at night and here she is going out and partying .
i find it sad that its been a year today and still no justice has been done kinda makes you wonder what the world is comming too
TAMPA — Prosecutors have dropped an aggravated manslaughter charge against Danielle McCleary, a 24-year-old mother who told authorities she watched her boyfriend bind, bundle and beat her 2-year-old daughter to death.
They did so to get her to testify in Kenneth G. Lopez’s first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse case.
As part of the deal, McCleary pleaded guilty Tuesday to child neglect, not knowing what sentence a judge will impose after her work with the prosecution is done. The maximum she faces is 15 years in prison. If she does not cooperate, prosecutors can reinstate the manslaughter charge.
McCleary stood before HillsÂborough Circuit Judge Chet A. Tharpe in ripped jeans and a sweat shirt and listened to a prosecutor read what happened to 2-year-old Gabrielle Randel in the early morning hours of March 8, 2009:
Gabrielle was fussy and crying when Lopez allegedly tied her hands behind her back, wrapped her in blankets and sat her down on the ground. He put a karate pad over her, the prosecutor said. And he beat that karate pad until he noticed the girl was silent.
McCleary looked down and cried.
“She failed to intervene on behalf of her child,” prosecutor Michael Sinacore said.
Authorities said the girl suffered blunt trauma to her forehead, multiple marks and bruises to her entire body, a hand mark on her body and serious trauma to her genitalia.
McCleary called 911 after they realized the girl had stopped breathing. When authorities arrived, they found McCleary’s second child, a 3-year-old boy, with the word “dumba–” scribbled on his forehead. A sheriff’s investigator said McCleary admitted to writing it.
She never faced a charge for that.
Her attorney says McCleary has surrendered the rights to her son, who now lives in Texas with his father. She lives with her parents and two younger sisters and is in therapy.
Lopez could get life in prison if convicted.
Thank you michele – on the ball as usual. I guess this is a good thing, since she didn’t actually participate in the beating, and she’ll still have to face some jail time for child abuse. It still bugs me that she wrote “dumbass” on her son’s forehead though.
Kenny Lopez is going to burn for sure now….
i am still not happy she is just as guilty because she did not stop it . and yeah he will for sure go down for what he did but i hope she is caught in a lie because if she is she gets everything tacked back on plus some and will get 25 to life which she needs to get for every year that gabrielle is no longer on this earth . on one of the web sites they have a video of her plea and details of what happend that night that we didnt really know and she cried her fake tears of sorrow when just a few weeks ago she went to a concert as if nothing was happening and reported on her page ” i am so excited to see three days grace , fly leaf and a few others ” seems really torn up to me not! but i have gotten news on other matters that i have been fighting for as far as DNA and those who really care about that aspect of it i will write more as it comes to light for us . i just hope if she tells the truth she gets the whole 15 years no parole
04/12/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,26-APR-2010,09:00, Judge:BARBER, THOMAS P., Room:CR22, Room Location:NT, User ID = CUSUMANO
04/12/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY amended
04/12/2010 D001 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED DEPOSITION
04/05/2010 D001 NOTICE OF HEARING RETURNED TO SENDER
03/26/2010 D001 ADDITIONAL LIST OF WITNESSES
03/26/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY AMENDED
update on kenneth lopez
I heard that kenny is going to try and say that he did not do it, but was just covering up for her.
Hehehe – Good luck with that defense, if it’s true.
I heard that kenny is going to run for Prison Queen. He’s a shoe-in to win the “DSL” category.
i heard the same but i am not convinced that she didnt help or have a hand in the beating from things i know she wasnt a good mom and she had a temper when she couldnt do what she wanted to do when she wanted to do it ,
i have known danielle for many years. she is a pathalogical liar, and always has been. if they dropped her charge pending she is truthful, she will most certainly end up with the charge. she is a whore, and always has been, although I do not think she’s sliding up and down any stripper poles. she was probably lying and was there, joining her sick douch-bag of a boyfriend beat that poor little girl to death. she is evil and i hope they both rot in hell for this.
He was a liar as well.
to michele “i heard the same but i am not convinced that she didnt help or have a hand in the beating from things i know she wasnt a good mom and she had a temper when she couldnt do what she wanted to do when she wanted to do it”
I honestly think they both had a huge part in it I do not know the girl but i do know Kenny and he was a liar, phoney, and had a very troubled life.
and to Andrew
“I knew this guy growing up. Lived a couple houses down.”
Are you the one that he stole the belt and a few ps2 games form? because from what i remmeber he only had 2 friends.
Chickaboa she isnt much better trust me ask anyone whom has known her or known of her and they will all tell you the same she is TROUBLE and will walk over anyone and everyone to get what she wants she is selfish and bitter and nasty ,
to everyone else these two arent back in court until sometime in the start of augest so when i know something you all will
danielle is due in front of the judge on june 16th and kenneth lopez is due in court on june 17th
This is utter fuckin bullshit. If this shit goes on any longer, i’m gonna wish that judge goes to hell. I don’t get it man, he beat the poor girl to death and the motherfuckers still in court, I don’t fuckin get it.. Our system is so fuckin fucked.. I remember this story very well.. It’s the only article that ever hit me. To the point where I actually wanted to fuckin cry.. pffft. Motherfucker.. R.I.P Gabrielle
I knew this guy growing up. Lived a couple houses down. He was troubled but I never thought he was capable of this.
This is just sad.
Ok to update mr lopez will see more court in early oct..
And mrs mccleary and mr randel are once again aparently in a relationship as a matter of fact he is headed to fl tonight it makes me feel sad for him and sorry for his son who he is letting be back around her.
i was wrong they are not in a relationship again i had bad info and i just got a conformation that he and she are not together but he did take his son to visit . i would of deleted the comment but there is not away too so again i am woman enough to say i am sorry for writting befor i had all the information ,
Michelle, stop posting garbage on here about me and my son. What my son and I do does not concern you what so ever. And just so you know and have your facts straight before you post another slandering comment about me on here, yes I went to Florida, no it wasn’t to see Danielle. It was so that my son could visit with his grandparent. And another thing before you post something bad mouthing them, they didn’t have anything to do with Gabrielle’s death and they still have the right to see and visit him. So please Michelle, shut up and stop posting crap on here about me and my son and mind your own damn business.
On another note, thanks to everyone else who has been following this forum and actually posting nice and encouraging things.
I posted nothing about your son just danielle mostly and it became my buisness 4 years ago when we tried to start child support and tried to see gabrielle and when danielle would call my phone twice a week to say how she wanted chris to see gabi and how much she looked like him ect and when it came time for him to see her she claimed no cause you and kenneth didn’t think it be a good idea so yeah
Not to mention I only post the truth and its just you get mad cause you know its the truth its a thing called freedom of speech and if it weren’t for me these people would have no idea what’s been happening
12/02/2010 D001 JURY TRIAL SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,JTR,20-JUN-2011,08:30, Judge:BARBER, THOMAS P., Room:CR22, Room Location:NT, User ID = CUSUMANO
12/02/2010 D001 PRETRIAL SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,PTR,14-JUN-2011,08:30, Judge:BARBER, THOMAS P., Room:CR22, Room Location:NT, User ID = CUSUMANO
the jury trial for the asshole kenneth lopez whom killed gabi is set for june 20 2011 I just cant believe it took so long to get to .its just too bad we have to wait till its all over with his trial for danielle to be held accountable for her part
8 days until the murder trial is to start i must say it did not seem as if this day would ever get here and on june 27th danielle will learn her fate as well so i will keep you all posted
Will this be on court in session?
who can tell us current information? Has his court case gone to trial? I can’t find any info….
what’s the news
Kenneth Lopez-DOB 4-1-1988- housed at Cross City correctional institute(FL) release date-6-16-2056
Danielle McCleary is not in Florida Department of corrections. If she is I am assuming she got youthful offender, therefore it will not show up on the Florida Department of Corrections website.
Here is the link:
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/list.asp?DataAction=Filter&SexOffOnly=0&dcnumber=&LastName=Lopez&FirstName=Kenneth&SearchAliases=on&Sex=M&Race=ALL&OffenseCategory=ALL&ClassificationStatus=ALL&CurrentCustody=ALL&IdentifierType=ALL&Identifier=&EyeColor=ALL&HairColor=ALL&FromAge=21&ToAge=25&FromWeight=&ToWeight=&FromHeightFeet=&FromHeightInches=&ToHeight=&ToHeightFeet=&ToHeightInches=&ZipCode=&ScarType=ALL&ScarLocation=ALL&ScarDescription=&photosonly=&nophotos=on&items=20&CommitmentCounty=ALL&subjecttype=ALL&facility=ALL&workskill=ALL
Full website to search for any inmate in Florida dept. of corrections.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/AppCommon/
On another note though Michelle, I was raised by a man whom i believed was my biological father all my life. When i was 13 i found out he was not my biological father. I don’t care though….he is/was my daddy. Then only daddy that i have. I think that Michael is the daddy no matter what that DNA test prove. If your Fiance, Christopher, was so worried about it then he should’ve drove to Illinois, fuck an ID that’s “his child” he wouldn’t care about an idea if he cared so much. Why is it that you/him is soooo worried about it now…is it because she’s dead? I think you just want your 15 minutes of fame…that’s a damn disgrace. GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!!
Michael, I am soooo sorry for your loss. You are those children’s daddy not matter what chris/michelle/DNA says. You and Bryan are in my prayers.
Its not about 15 min of fame and he tried when she was born and michael and danielle said no then he and I got together and she contacted him and said about child support he agreed if he could meet her and do a dna test she said aand at the last min refused . We tried for a lawyer and council fell through know the facts . Danielle was emailing hhim till feb 2009 saying how she looked like him ect. You ccant board a. Plane with out an id ya fucking moron remember 9\11 and we had no idea where she was after she left florida until we got news gabi was dead and she never got to know if her father would of been a good daddy also . I never said michael wasn’t a good dad and didn’t take care of her but I do know my husband to be deserves to know if she shared his dna .
Oh and not even michael knew where she was till she was back in florida.my fiance made inqurys about that baby constantly we even have the emails still to date its sick to think its for fame of any kind really where the fuck do you get off in less you know everything in detail behind it all keep opinions to yourself about me or my fieance k .
that was suppose to mean Identification not idea.
Since my post is waiting for approval since i provided links i’m gonna make another post without the links.
Kenneth Lopez-DOB 4-1-1988- housed at Cross City correctional institute(FL) release date-6-16-2056
Danielle McCleary is not in Florida Department of corrections. If she is I am assuming she got youthful offender, therefore it will not show up on the Florida Department of Corrections website.
I don’t think the link for kenny is correct some off the info is wrong and the picture looks nothing like his dumbass.
you are right – that is not the correct Kenneth Lopz – picture, description, etc don’t match.
sorry you all are right. I apologize I was just trying to find out info as well.
Its ok tiffany at least you tried, I’ve been trying with no luck.hopefully someone find out something and post on here soon. Hope this doesn’t end up as a casey anthony.
Lopez got sentenced to 20 years and danielle gets sentenced oct 11 its at the tbo .com website in detail
Wow that is messed up how did he manage to only get 20 years and hers till october, system is fucked thanks for the k info. Going to check the site now.
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Ya Kathy remember when Mike put that 45 in your 9 year olds mouth what _?:”{ The Did YOU DO!!!!! Must run in the family? Stand by your man is what you did. DUMBSHIT!!!!!! Your kids always should come first stupid ass they are are future…
She was sentenced to 15 years yesterday danielle was
Ok what I posted to tiffany was a low blow to michael and I’m sorry but I am tiered of people giving me shit and bad mouthing my fieance when they know nothing about anything I mostly been bashing danielle because she’s a baby killing bitch but christopher was not a deadbeat and wasn’t given the chance to even try to be a good father I have only posted truths and defences and people can’t handle that sorry but I will defend the honor of my man because he is a good man who lost also so fuck you people who wanna run your mouths when you know nothing and again michael sorry for the post back to tiffany that was messed up and I am woman enough to apologize
So, reading the comments, is the person pictured the Kenny Lopez who viciously murdered a baby girl? Or just some shmo with the same name?
As far as the DSLs go, even Angie Jo has got to get hers plumped up to match these. IF this is a guy, fellow inmates… shave him, make him grow his hair, get him stylish hat that partially covers his face, dress him in black and he’s your own Angelina. Only younger. And more deserving of punishment (as far as I know she hasn’t beaten anyone to death).
And where is Michele… is skank mom in jail or not? Because whatever else, she needs to be. I do have the feeling she was there for at least part of the beating and that is unforgivable.
However, Michael’s little boy will ask to see skank mom sometimes. So, I can understand if Michael relents and allows his son to see mom (with supervision). He is dealing with a little boy who suffered a tremendous loss. Good luck, Michael.
Yes shes in jail and I understand tha also at the time I made the comment about him going down there he had just gotten full custody and I couldnt see how he could be anywhere near her after what she did . And she was there the whole time
Oh, good. Thanks for answering.
I have to agree with KHR… It seems as if a 1st grader is typing up Michele’s comments. Please, for the love of god, do yourself a favor and shut up. You’re just making yourself seem stupid and uneducated. It isnt hard to read over what you are about to post to make sure people can understand it. Better yet, just stop talking all together and let this family move on.
When your useing your phone to type its not always easy to check over everything that’s number 1 number 2 I hadn’t posted any thing to anyone in over two years except to talk about trial dates which I would think people would want to know about since the site doesn’t update the news of what’s going on and 3 they can move on no one holds a gun to their heads and tells them to read this do they as I stated to michael its freedom of speech asshole and there are others with spelling as bad as mine can be and when you reply in anger you don’t pay attention to how its spelled ya don’t like it don’t read it.
I went to school with Danielle. She was actually a very good person. To hear this happen is very sad!
Watching as a two year old is beaten to death and doing nothing to stop it is pretty much the definition of a terrible person.
Shows how much you didn’t know about her.