UPDATE 2: Diane Schuler
SCHULER CELL PHONE RECORDS RELEASED BY FOX5-NY TV
One of our readers came across this video from FOX5-New York Television News. They were able to get ahold of Diane Schuler’s cell phone records, and piecing it together with information already known, came up with this report. See if you begin thinking the same things I did as I watched it. If I’m right, the Schulers are the biggest family of liars I’ve seen in a very long time.
I hesitate to say this, because he lost his three daughters, but I can’t be silent any longer. I’m beginning to think that her brother, Warren Hance, and his wife knew right away what was wrong with Diane Schuler when Emma called and said there was something wrong with Aunt Diane. Why else would they not call the New York State police, but instead have Warren ride off on his own to look for her, having no idea where she was. I ask you all, is that something you would do?
I believe this was standard operating procedure for the Hance and Schuler families when dealing with Diane. Everyone covered for Diane. Everyone protected Diane. Everyone enabled Diane. But they underestimated her disease. They never thought she would put the children in danger, because up until then, she never had. What they didn’t know is that the diseases of Alcoholism and Addiction have three major characteristics; they are incurable, they are progressive, and they are terminal. Diane’s disease progressed to the point where the kids didn’t matter – maybe that day, maybe before.
I want to make something clear here. Warren Hance is not a bad man for doing what he did that day. The thing about family members of alcoholics is that as the alcoholic gets sicker and sicker, so do the people that love them. If you don’t believe me, go to an Alanon meeting and listen to the stories of some of the family members and friends of alcoholics and addicts. Warren believed in his heart that what he was doing was the only thing he could do. To him, there was no other option. I don’t blame him for this tragedy. In fact, my heart breaks for him and his wife. I don’t think anyone, especially myself, is qualified to judge them or their actions.
But the rest of the family, they’re another story. I don’t want to go off on a rant, but they need to man up, and man up soon.
Thank You jp For The Link To This Video
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Dear Diane’s family;
I’ve stated many times before that I do not believe in any all-powerful God. The stories in this shrine called PYSIH should be enough for anyone to understand why I do not believe.
I think you do though.
According to your belief system, God knows all and sees all. God knows what happened to Diane. God knows what you’re doing on her behalf. God knows your cold selfishness.
If I believed like you probably do, I’d tell the whole truth to the world, then get on my knees and beg forgiveness for allowing this to happen the way I think you did. Because if your God is anything like the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, He is vengeful and wrathful and will have no compunction about sending you all to hell after you die. Every last stinking one of you.
I do believe in God and I also believe in His promise of free will.
First of all, I do not see the world as “black and white”, but when it comes time to sort things out, there is white and there is not white (go curtain shopping….. if it’s not white, it’s NOT white)
But part if the problem with American Christians is the fact that Jesus has been made into a virtual Metro Sexual nice guy…. Most churches and non Christians will tell us we should not judge and they all just love that story of Jesus and the adulterer that was about to be stoned to death. Few ever go on to tell Jesus’s message to the woman – “Go and sin no more” Of coarse she is going to sin again, but I am sure that Jesus wants her to cut out the stuff that nearly got her a death sentence…….
Jesus regularly turnedthe tables on those who tried to “one up him”n – was this nice -NO, but it was the truth, Jesus was quite critical of the system at that time – he had to earn his place on he cross – which he did!
So part of the problem as I see it, this nice family was afraid to judge Diane and I am sure she knew enough of the Bible to keep them at bay but we are supposed to correct eachother…. so that means using judgment without being judgmental… which means that we should correct each others actions, God will judge the person…. even Proverbs (one of my favorite books) “Pro 29:17 Correct your son, and he shall give you rest; yea, he shall give delight to your soul. ”
Thus I see the nice American Christian as being molded into the perfect enabler….
My aunt is a wonderful woman, BUT she has enabled her husband to be a drunk for well over 30 years. But as a christain she feels that it’s her duty and job as a good wife to care for her husband. Well she covers for him and attacks anyone that questions what is going on…… A good wife won’t let him hit bottom nor will she correct be cause that is judgemental…….
I really do not think she’s like the real Jesus as a dinner guest…
Nor would Diane’s family…..
What gets me about all of these families is their interpretation of what ’standing by someone’ should mean. To me, it doesn’t mean you allow the person to cut themselves down and destroy their life and the lives of others while you turn a blind eye to the issues that are causing the destruction. That’s not supporting – that’s enabling. Sometimes love and respect demand confrontation and risk. Family and real friends should be willing to risk a comfortable relationship in order to help the person they love. Otherwise, of what use is their love? “Distract the rest of the world, Mom, while I slowly stab myself to death.” How insane is that? That’s exactly what these families did to Diane.
Sometimes, in order to care for someone you have to be a party to their temporary pain so they open their eyes and see they need real help. If Diane’s family did anything else, they are almost as guilty of murder as she is.
It’s the denial for me. It’s this reality they try to project on everyone else.
1. You can’t know as much as I do, because I knew him(her) for X year(s) before (s)he did this.
2. Because you don’t know all of the details (including what he ate for breakfast) you can’t possibly know what was going on, even if he was found with blood on his hands, penis, a fountain pen, his diary, and the neighbor’s cat, and admitted the crime in front of his priest, his third grade teacher, a judge and the president of Finland.
3. He’s “innocent until proven guilty” and God said don’t judge, so he can never be found guilty!
4. You’re all mean and going to come to a bad end too because you’re mean to an “INNOCENT” man
5. Repeat ad nauseum
Yeah, the denial’s pretty heinous too. I try to see that as a phase in the mourning process, but sometimes it’s really tough.
“He was found balls-deep in the platypus, but he says he didn’t do it so I believe him because he’s mah firned! How could you say such a thing about this guy? He reads at old folks homes!” BAH! We all have a dark side, it’s part of humanity’s collective make-up. Some of us just can’t control our baser selves, and need to be removed from society one way or another.
If all of the fault and crime “died” with Dianne Schuler, then what would the family have to lose by just letting the world know that there was a damn good reason that this “accident” happened.
Maybe the grief that her brother or sister-in-law (the Hance family) will finally come to a head and one of them will snap and let go of the truth.
Dianne is dead and even though her son will have to live with the stigma that his mom killed all of these people, at least he will know that there was a reason that it all happened. The Bastardi family also needs to have some peace.
The LIVING members of everyone that this accident has touched deserves the truth that this family is holding out on.
A huge part of the fascination about this story comes from the complete denials from the family to provide an explanation for what happened. Their denials do not provide closure for anyone and i’m sure not for themselves. Of course the victims need it, but the general public does too. People need to be able to rationalize why something tragic happens, you can’t go on living life thinking that any moment some random person with a toothache is going to drive into you the wrong way. It doesn’t make sense and people can’t reconcile things unless there is some way to put it in a box… she was drunk, she had a stroke, whatever it is, it just needs parameters that people can accept.
The family continues to perpetuate the denial by not being forthcoming about the truth. They enable Diane even in death by chosing to remain blind. I do not hold anything against any of these people, they are all paying the ultimate price for their codependency that no one should have to pay. They didn’t hand her the drink, as anyone who deals with addicts, you can’t stop someone from doing what they want, period.
The story about the vodka bottle is an example of the deep denial. That bottle costs 25 dollars, how frugal are they that they claim they carried the same bottle for a year? sorry, but if you have a couple of drinks a week, that bottle is going to last 2 months tops. And who is going to go camping for the weekend and have one tiny little drink, then bring it home? So that means they drink it at home too, so how could it last that long? Just doesn’t make sense. If the vodka meant that little to them why carry it around? They guy was sort of a cop, doesn’t he know its illegal to carry open containers?
People will not stop vilifying these people, or forget about it, or stop speculating until the truth comes out and the victims will rest in peace, including Diane, who is a tragic figure here and deserves our compassion for simply being human. Of course we can still be angry about it, but everyone has to see a little bit of her in themselves.
I wish they would tell the truth already since i am so sick of thinking about this, but i can’t stop until i understand what happened. Its like being in purgatory, It’s not morbid curiosity, it is human nature to need closure and reassurance that this was not random, that there were signs, even if they were ignored. We need the truth and we need it now.
One thing i noticed on the tapes from the link above is that when they are discussing the cell phone they mention that the voice mail says “Diane Hance” not Schuler even though the phone was registered under the name Diane Schuler.
They did both. The Hances did call the troopers AND Warren went looking for them.
I have read several reports indicating that Warren immediately got in his car after speaking to his panicked daughter, Emma. However he remained in contact with his wife in LI, who called NYS Troopers requesting assistance for Diane, after Warren could no longer reach Diane’s cell.
Unfortunately, Diane had left the area by that point. She was nowhere near the TZ bridge/Tarrytown (where they last spoke). In fact, the police were searching rest stops in that area & along the Hutch Pkwy (alternate route to LI) when the accident occurred.
Warren arrived at the Tarrytown police station right around the time of the accident. I live in the area, and the accident site is quite a distance from the Tappan Zee, so they would not have expected her to be that north, when she should have been far south by then.
In my experience, some closet drinkers can be extremely clever & often go undetected in their own homes for years.
Although I too suspect Diane’s husband knows about her passion for vodka, it is very likely those outside the home could be completely unaware. Even close friends/relatives, like her brother.
I do find it extremely odd that her hubby was also driving home to LI from the same campground, at the same time, yet she doesn’t call him when she is “lost”. Local newspapers have reported witnesses stating that she was driving aggressively, straddling 2 lanes, crossing over the median etc. earlier in her trip.
I’ve read some interviews with her work colleages which indicated her “social drinking” had recently escalated, and during happy hour(s) she was spouting that she was unhappy at home.
To surmise that the Hances suspected Diane had a drinking problem
and gambled with their children’s lives is unlikely, IMO, and kinda shitty.
More likely, she was extremely adept at hiding it, especially outside the home.
I suspect the Hances never saw it coming.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/calls_show_frantic_bid_to_find_taconic_2i6tGpFIANDKOdKaFNJ5dK
“One of the frantic calls from Diane’s Ford Windstar wound up going to a stranger, Peter Flammia of Oyster Bay, LI.”
Interesting that this guy lives 10 minutes from where Diane Schuler worked. Conicidence? Was it a wrong number dialed or did one of the kids call one of her contacts by mistake?
Ok, interesting news out. So the police report is out, http://www.lohud.com/assets/pdf/BH146203117.PDF yet the Shuler investigators haven’t seen them, according to the news reports. What kind of investigator does not obtain the official police report, which was taken on July 31, over 3 months ago? Then he says the sister in law Joan was not telling the truth when she said she smoked pot (uh, Danny has already admitted this). In fact, two of the three people in the police report say she smoked pot. So I guess he didn’t interview the family?? Or just accuses them of lying? Who are the 50 complete strangers this guy interviewed to say no one ever saw her drunk? Notice he didn’t say high. Then try reading the police report further. More contradictions. Danny doesn’t even know how long he was married “6 or 7 years”. They drank Friday night but not Saturday? Even when they had that bottle of vodka? Really.
The brother then says this was the first season they camped at that place, so how does the owner say she knows them for years? The brother is very vague with the times the kids called (‘sometime in the late morning”). Wouldn’t it have been tormenting enough so he would have looked at those call times over and over trying to figure it all out? He and his wife had to know what was up, they both talked to a trashed Diane Schuler and had to know she was wasted. The kids were crying in the background. Then Danny says the brother called him and said there was an accident, but the police tapes have Warren talking to Danny before trying to get information on the phone bill..etc.. He also says this was the only time they took the kids to this campground, which means it was also the only time they drove separately since she had the brother’s car and kids. So she goes over the Tappan Zee bridge instead of the Throgs Neck, as Danny said they normally did. She was lost with a car full of crying kids, drunk, sick and high
Then Joan says she didn’t believe in medicine, so why was she looking for Tylenol?
From this, a picture emerges that Danny went there on Thursday, had a nice relaxing time by himself, then Diane had to work Friday, then get her kids ready and packed up, then drive to Floral Park, pick up the other kids, drive to the campground and take care of everyone. Even her brother and sister in law were having a weekend to themselves, but she was stuck with all 5 kids and a dumba** husband. They drank Friday night he says. Then Saturday Danny says they went to bed at 11:30 and he got up at 5. So, likely Danny crashes out, Diane has insomnia (as her family has stated she suffered from and smoked pot to fall asleep), so she stays up drinking and smoking all night. He gets up at 5 and goes fishing, leaving her to wake up still wasted, wake the kids, pack up and get all the kids in the car to take them out for breakfast and then drive them home, drop off the kids in Floral Park then drive out to Suffolk while Danny and the dog went off in the pickup truck merrily oblivious. She is probably still hella hung over and takes a few nips and tokes while Danny is fishing, wake and bake. They supposedly leave together, but he doesn’t stop at the McDonalds with her to help with the kids or anything, he keeps going. She then has to stop for gas too where she is probably looking for Tylenol since she is hung over. There is video of her at the store here http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1170105/taconic_crash_last_video_of_schuler?cpt=3 where she is seen wandering aimlessly and has a literally ½ second interchange with the clerk, and that proves she wasn’t drunk? She is wearing sunglasses indoors for Gods sake!!
Other witnesses saw her puking at 2 locations along the way, once on Rt 17 and once on the Thruway. She gets on the road and is sick all the way, and Danny isn’t following her and able to help?? They probably had a big fight about the whole thing with the kids or something. So he is already home by the time Warren calls. Didn’t he wonder where she was? Try to call her phone?
Only 2 of the 15 pages of the police report were released, so I am sure there is more to this story.
wow, read the whole pile of documents released, paints a really tragic picture. I can’t let this story stop haunting me, and now it has gone from the unknown to the cold hard facts, and it is still no easier to forget. A couple of things jumped out at me. Witnesses at the campground said they did not see Diane Schuler all weekend, just the husband. Why would the clerk at the gas station refuse to talk to police? Was she in a rush to get home because she was sick? She kept pulling over, puking, then driving like a mad woman again and again. Something set her off on this binge and we will probably never know what it was.
Yeah jp, it’s really pathetic. Thanks to your last two comments, I’ve been researching another update, and I have to keep taking breaks because I keep getting pissed off, mostly at the Diane’s family. The things is, as heinous as it was, Diane was just doing what alcoholics have been doing since forever, and she paid the ultimate price. But the Schulers are damned. The new documents, especially the police report, prove that they knew she was an alcoholic and a regular, daily pot smoker. The paperwork also proves that Danny knew she’d been drinking the night before the accident, that they all told cops that Diane was perfectly healthy (remember the diabetes encephalitis abscessed tooth Anbesol theories). None of the so-called health problem appeared until their lawyer, Dominic Barbara appeared on the scene. THAT son of a bitch should be disbarred, no question about it. It gets worse, but I’m gonna put it in the update.
As for Danny Schuler, what I wouldn’t give for 5 minutes alone with him in a room with a car battery, two 4 penny nails and a pair of jumper cables, because that motherfucker knows a whole lot more than he’s telling. He got in front of all those cameras and lied about everything, and gave a world class performance as a grieving husband and father. He, and his whole family a tried to bullshit the world, all the time knowing that the police already had their statements indicating the exact opposite.
Now everyone knows what despicable people they really are. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving family. I hope the Bastardis and the Longos win their lawsuit and take everything they have. They’ll have only themselves to blame.
The arrogance of them too, reading how Barbara invited the cops to the press conference but kept them waiting 20 minutes after it was over and then Danny ‘had to leave’ and they couldn’t interview him. He had time for the mass media lies, but not time enough to speak with the authorities investigating the death of 7 innocent people??? How dare he? Its all about him.
Even with all the facts in the police reports, the media still gets it wrong though. Contrary to most reports, nowhere in the police files does the sister in law state she was a heavy drinker, in fact, she never mentions alcohol at all. Just one line about smoking pot.
The moral of this story is really that you should not eat McDonalds at 10 am with a killer hangover. I’m sure that is what made her sick to her stomach, then she smoked to get rid of the sickness and probably took a few more drinks on top of it to calm the nerves. The autopsy didn’t mention food in her stomach, so they should have assumed she had been sick if they knew she had just eaten.
I would bet a lot of the booze in her blood was from the night before and a smalleramount was ingested that morning to keep her steady. Danny supposedly went fishing at 5 am, so he wasn’t even around in the morning when she was packing up, no wonder he didn’t see her drink on that day, he left her with all the kids, again.
This woman was probably at the end of her rope with this pathetic loser. Why didn’t he follow her and make sure she was ok taking all the kids to McDonalds, getting gas, driving all the kids back to Floral Park, then home, thats just normal family interaction. What if she got a flat or other minor problem? He should have been following her, she already had to drive there by herself in a strange car. For gods sake, didn’t he even give her directions on how to get home? The brother said this was the 1st year they camped at this place and 1st time all the kids went, so they probably drove together all the other times, but this time she got lost, going over the Tappan Zee instead of the Throggs Neck.
makes me sick,
hmmm, today is Diane Schuler’s birthday apparently.