Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez
UPDATE: QUEENS GAY BASHING VICTIM SPEAKS
by On Top Magazine staff
Jack Price, the 49-year-old gay victim of a brutal beating in Queens, New York, spoke Saturday to New York daily the Daily News.
Price was attacked last week by two men as he was coming out of a corner deli around 3AM in the middle-class neighborhood of College Point in Queens, Police say.
Price managed to make his way home after Daniel Rodriguez, 21, and Daniel Aleman, 26, kicked and pummeled the 5-foot-6, 130-pound Price in the middle of the deserted street. He was taken to Booth Memorial Hospital where officials say he suffered a broken jaw, fractured ribs and a lacerated spleen.
“I thought I died,” Price told the paper. “I was bleeding all over the place.”
“Better it was me. Someone else may not have survived it,” he added.
Price says the two men followed him to the store and called him a “stupid faggot” and “dumb faggot” in Spanish.
Police nabbed Aleman on Sunday and Rodriguez on Tuesday. Rodriguez was taken into custody by the United States Marshals Services at a relative’s home in Norfolk, Virginia.
“I hope they rot in jail,” Price said. “I don’t understand how someone can do this to somebody. They almost killed another human being.”
During his capture, Rodriguez denied he was homophobic, a claim his sister was willing to support.
“This wasn’t a hate crime.” Christina Rodriguez told the paper. “If he’s guilt of anything, he’ll man up to it.”
Officials, however, have said that Rodriguez has admitted to using an anti-gay slur. He also allegedly told detectives, “I was angry, cause Jack is disgusting.”
New York City Council Speaker Christine C. Quinn and a group of city and state officials condemned the attack on Tuesday during an impromptu press conference in front of the hospital.
“Better it was me. Someone else may not have survived it.”
Jack Price is one hell of a man. Instead of whining about the unfairness of the beating he received at the hands of these two punks, Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez, he instead proves himself to be so much more of better person by being grateful that he was their victim and not some other innocent human being. I have to wonder, if I was in Jack Price’s position, would that same thought have even crossed my mind?
Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez did their best to show Jack Price that he didn’t matter, that his life was so insignificant that they could insult him and beat him at will, all because he was gay. They wanted to steal his dignity and his humanity. They failed miserably. All they succeeded in doing is showing the world what cowards they are, and allowing Jack Price to show us all how strong a gay man really can be.
ORIGINAL ARTICLE
You know, being a crime buff for as long as I’ve been, today it takes a lot to shock me. But I have to tell you that last night I watched a short, two and a half minute video clip that really shook me up. It came from a surveillance camera that overlooks a street in College Point area of Queens, New York, and shows two men beating the ever-living crap out another man.
At no time did the man who was receiving the ass whipping, Jack Price, try to fight back – on the contrary, it seemed to me that he had just been ambushed and was only trying to protect his vital areas. The other two guys, Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez, were unmerciful, punching his head and face until he collapsed to the ground. Once they had him down, they stomped and kicked him into a helpless figure in the middle of the street.
And what was the reason for such a vicious assault? Was Jack Price a child molester? Were Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez just common thieves looking for an easy score? No, the reason was neither so honorable nor so common. Jack Price’s terrible crime, the crime that qualified him for a terrible pummeling at the hands of these two young “gentleman”, was that he had the nerve to be a gay man walking on the same street they were on.
That’s right folks, Daniel Aleman And Daniel Rodriguez beat Jack Price nearly to death just because he was a homosexual. Mr. Price, who is openly gay, had walked down to the corner Deli, where he was confronted by Aleman and Rodriguez. Police say the Aleman and Rodriguez taunted Mr. Price and yelled anti-gay slurs while he was in the store early Friday. When he left, they attacked him and stomped on him.
As of late Tuesday, the 49-year-old Price was in a medically induced coma and hooked up to a respirator, listed in critical condition. He was suffering from two collapsed lungs, a broken jaw, a lacerated spleen and several broken ribs. There is still no guarantee that Mr. Price will survive the attack.
Daniel Aleman, 26, was arrested Sunday night, and Daniel Rodriguez, 21, was captured Tuesday night in Norfolk, Virginia. Aleman has already been charged with Second Degree Assault as a Hate Crime, and is being held on $40,000 bond or $20,000 cash bail, and Rodriguez will face the same charge when he is returned to New York. They are looking at 15 years in 
prison if convicted.
Daniel Rodriguez’s sister said she doesn’t believe her brother is anti-gay. She said her brother wouldn’t have even known the victim was gay and doesn’t believe he would attack someone for their sexual orientation, because he has gay friends he grew up with.
…And some of his best friends are gay.
New York City politicians were quick to line up in order to condemn the attack on Jack Price, led by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who issued a statement saying in part:
“There can never be true justice for Jack Price, the victim of a vicious anti-gay attack early Thursday morning near his home in College Point.”
“Thankfully though, both suspects in the case have now been apprehended. … Hate crimes like this one are particularly distasteful and won’t be tolerated in our city.”
Editor’s Notes: It seems to me that gay men somehow have become the one group of people that those subhumans out there with hate and violence in their hearts still think they can assault and murder at will without any fear of consequences. Why this is so, and what they think gives them this right escapes me, but I am more and more troubled by it every time something like this happens.
Perhaps it’s a guilty conscious that motivated me to write this story. I wasn’t always so open minded about gay people. In fact, I was probably right of center on gay issues. But then there was Matthew Sheppard. That was the first time I saw Fred Phelps and his group of “God Hates Fags” lunatics.
I was watching a report on Matthew’s funeral, and there was Fred and his group, outside the church, holding their signs – you know the ones. – “God Hates Fags” “Matt In Hell” “Thank God For Aids” – I thought to myself, “Wait a minute, aren’t his parents inside right now, trying to mourn their son?” And I realized that if I was going to continue thinking as I did about gays, I was going to have to be on the same side as these people.
Now, I’m not an especially smart person, but I’m smart enough to know that if people who think and act like Fred’s group are on the same side as I am, then I must be on the wrong side. And that’s when I began to come around to the right way of thinking. The reason I’m so sure it’s right, is because it passes my “smell test” – If I was gay, how would I want people to think about me, how would I want them to treat me? The concept of treating people the same way I would want to be treated is nothing new, and it’s never failed me.
Anyways, let’s hope Jack Price can make a full recovery. A man should be able to go to the corner store without worrying about getting the crap beat out of him by two punks with nothing better to do on a Wednesday night.
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What a couple of worthless punks. Yeah, two on one makes you really tough, doesn’t it, you little shitbags? One of the things that bothered me the most was the car that just drove right on by.
This vid turned my stomach & like MB says, the car going past disturbed me also.
There is no punishment good enough for those 2 worthless scumbags i just hope their victim recovers
Not only did two cars pass right on by while this guy was being beaten unconscious in the street, but no one in any of the nearby buildings came outside to help either. I understand NYC is like this, people will walk away and do nothing while someone gets killed 3 feet away.
I hope I never set foot in that place.
Okay, I have to call you out of this post. If you watch the video, one car drive directly past the three men. The two POS criminals are not actively beating the man when the car drives by. My guess is they looked like they were helping him, so the driver kept going. Either that or the driver was a complete asshole!!
The first car in the video was at the complete other end of the street and was driving in a different direction. Very likely, the driver didn’t look down the street–which looks to be filled with businesses–but instead was looking straight head, the direction they were driving.
Either way, it is not indicative of people in New York. Yes, back in the 70’s there was a lot of fear and isolation going on due to the rampant crime. (I remember the shocking ‘When Jenny Screamed” movie about the woman getting stabbed to death while the neighbors did nothing.) Things changed a lot with 9/11.
Try not to judge an entire city of several million based on the actions of a few POS!!
Well, I hope you’re right about things changing since the 70’s! I do have to take into account that it *WAS* the wee hours of the morning and it appeared there was no one about when this happened. Perhaps this story would have been different had it been afternoon.
Actually the detective in me says they were walking away after beating the Hell out of this poor guy, thought to themselves “Hmmmm, wonder if he has any money” and they went back and searched his pockets, punched him a couple more times and called it a day. What a couple of assholes. Yes this is a hate crime. They followed him, stalked him if you will made a couple fag remarks & then punched & kicked him until he could not move. They deserve a several year stint in the iron bar hotel.
When you call 9-1-1 in NYC, the first thing they say is “9-1-1 please hold”. Then you proceed to hold for more than 1/2 an hour.
My aunt called 9-1-1 about someone breaking into a car, the 9-1-1 operator asked if it were her car, she said no and the operator said “then why are you calling?”
Amazing
911 operators do that kind of stuff all over the country, not just in NYC.
I’m a 911 operator and it is against our policy to put a 911 line on hold except in a circumstance where we are getting multiple calls on the same incident. Such as a car accident. We may put someone on hold to see if the next caller has more pertinent information such as injuries or entrapments. Other than that 911 does not get put on hold in our dispatch center. However, every jurisdiction is different just like every call is different. 911 calls run the gamut. We hear everything from true emergencies, such as house fires to keys locked in a vehicle. Luckily we are a small jurisdiction and rarely need to put a caller on hold but larger cities may very well need to “triage” their calls and unfortunately that means life threatening calls come first and a car being broken into will have to take a backseat. Don’t get me wrong, I know plenty of dispatchers have fucked calls up and cost lives. Just please don’t lump us all together. There are those of us who enjoy helping people and wait to get that call where we can really help to catch a pos like the ones I read about on here everyday while I’m sitting at my console waiting for a call. Excellent job PYSIH!!
Max, your frankness really made me happy. It’s refreshing to have confirmation that people can change on this topic, because I see homophobia a lot and it really depresses me. I’m not gay, but I have a lot of gay friends (like Mr. Rodriguez, I suppose), and it hurts me to see them treated cruelly over such a stupid thing.
I don’t pray, but I’ll be keeping Jack Price in my thoughts. Please update us.
I did not see the video, but given your description, I will agree that Mr. Price did not deserve this, very few people do.
But did they know that Mr. Price was gay and why did they beat him down when there are so many other gay people out there????
While I know many gay people, I do not like many of the “gay” groups, like NAMBLA – I despise them and their members.
When I was younger (like about 12 – 14) many “gay” men were aggressively interested in me. Thankfully that was the early 1980’s when I could tell them “No” and not be called a homophobe; I could threaten physical violence and not commit a hate crime.
Fast forward to the 1990’s and this new millennium…….
A few times in Boston I was on the T and I see a man staring at me, I ignore them only to see them continue to stare, look down and they are jerking themselves off through their clothes!
I have also seen creeps in / near NYC playground playing with themselves.
Now if I or my child is ever cornered by one of these creeps, I can assure you that I may appear in one of your articles, but I probably would not do so much damage – I would hope that the pervert (straight or gay) would get the message when I say something to them.
But this Price guy looks like one of the men who used to jerk himself off at the Houstin Street Playground – while I doubt if it is him, I would still like to know why these two picked on him specifically before sending them to hell.
Not all gays are perverts, BUT it does seem to me that many gay political groups go out of their way to defend gay perverts (NAMBLA).
So if these two were stopping him from abducting a child, then they should beat him down and restrained him, then called the cops. If he was a playground pervert, a kick to the nads.
Maybe these two just decided to rob someone who said “No” and they decided to teach him a “lesson” in which case this is not a hate crime against a homosexual, but rather a brutal crime against humanity, in which case they should NOT be charged with a hate crime, but should receive the absolute MAX for their brutal actions.
Mayor Bloomberg and other politicians who quickly assumed that this is a hate crime are denying both the perps and Mr Price true justice by their assumption.
NAMBLA is indefensible, and not a Gay civil rights movement. They’re a rights group for pedophiles. The desire to have sex with a consenting adult is very different than the desire to have sex with a child you coerce into the lifestyle.
Jack Price was harassed as he left the deli, as the deli operator attested. He was called Gay epithets before they beat him, and Jack’s friends have confirmed he was indeed Gay.
How did they know he was Gay?
While there are Gay men and women who do not openly show stereotypical signs or outward appearances, there are some who do. Whether he showed these signs or the suspects knew about his Gayness from another incident doesn’t matter. Before the crime was committed, the only relationship between the suspects and the victim was that they were vulgarly slurring him, and then they escalated the verbal abuse to physical abuse that may still kill him. This is the very definition of a hate crime, but perhaps there’s no need for the added degree of punishment given that these two will be easy to convict of the assault charges.
I am against hate crimes, but I do feel that if the crime was motivated by hate, then the MAX penalty should apply.
No thought oe way of thinking should be illegal, only what ones does should be illegal.
If I wish to believe that the Earth is flat – Fine!
If I buy a globe and flatten it – it’s mine!
If I flatten other peoples’ globes – crime!
Again, I only advocate Hate Crimes as a bandaid when the local law enforcement would be more sympathetic with the criminals than the victims of the crime. I must stress, I was born in the southern United States, in a small rural town, spent a lot of my life growing up there, and think that Hate Crimes legislation is absolutely vital to making sure a town like that one doesn’t continue to get away with passing on the prosecution of crimes that affect only one minority of the population.
It can be argued that NAMBLA is a heterosexual group as well. Many cultures don’t acknowledge the sex of a child until they hit puberty. Many ’straight’ men who abuse young boys say it’s because their bodies are so much like those of young women, except for the one obvious difference, it doesn’t matter if it’s a boy or a girl. The ancient Romans, iirc, felt the same way about young boys and girls.
I consider NAMBLA nothing more than a pedophile group and it has nothing to do with gay people IMO.
You’re correct, that’s the point. NAMBLA’s not a gay or straight group. Pedophilia has nothing to do with normal, healthy sexuality. As long as you’re a consensual adult human, it’s normal and healthy by my definition. Anything else is just wrong.
Thank you. NAMBLA is not a ‘gay’ group. It’s a pedophile group who just so happens to like boys. Most gay men do not like boys.
The pedophile men who like girls just aren’t as vocal, otherwise they’d call themselves the NAMGLA. But they’re too cowardly to do that.
Although I am against almost anyone getting beaten up like this, to be honest, it would bother me less if it was someone who was a pedophile or child-murderer.
Minding your own business, whether straight or gay, or asexual does not warrant assault. The perps should get the max not because they attacked someone who was gay, but because they attacked an innocent person. Our laws need to reflect that. Every perp should suffer the max, even ones who ‘hate’ homeless people or women or children, or whoever they’re attacking. Have one HUGE max for all losers.
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Now Glorybug, you know that’s a half-truth. All of the gay men I know love boys, but only for their potential as grown men. ;) Admit it, there have been times when you’ve looked at a kid and thought to yourself “Damn, that one’s gonna be a heart breaker when he/she grows up!” It’s not a sexual thought, more an appreciation for aesthetic potential and I don’t think it’s wrong.
Of course, sometimes that potential is never realized. I mean, look at Leo DiCaprio. He was a cutie when he was in his teens and early twenties. Now… yeesh!
Fred, I agree with most of what you are saying but I have to side with Jason here when he says NAMBLA is not a gay group. It is completely pedophile in nature and not a good organization for anybody….gay or not.
I am glad to see that people know and detest NAMBLA.
It just seems that they attach themselves to the gay cause.
I wasn’t aware of that Fred, but I believe you know what you’re talking about – you always do. I guess nothing in beneath these lowlifes. Don’t gay folks have enough problems without a group of baby-raping parasites latching onto their cause?
I do want to say thanks to all of you who did question me – I can go off on tangents forgetting my origional point. Also there is what I want to tell someone but
1. There is what I want to say
2. There is what I write, which is what others read
3. There is how others understand it,
thus without question or criticism I don’t know if 1 made it to 3.
Also God gave me 2 eyes, 2 ears and 1 mouth…….
I think it’s more of the case that NAMBLA tries to attach themselves to the human condition. They want their actions to be sanctioned by other humans, but can’t seem to get past thousands of years of instinct, taboo and plain good common sense.
Yeah Fred, you’re way off about NAMBLA. They have nothing to do gay people at all. The are dedicated to the promotion of pedophilia – Their motto is “Sex before eight, or else it’s too late.”
Gay people are not pedophiles. Even though there are many pedophiles who like to have sex with little boys, that doesn’t make them homosexuals in the traditional sense. It makes them sick fucks.
Comibing what I said in a few othr challanging posts – NAMBLA attaches themselves to the gay movement.
They talk of being discriminated, just like gay people, and hey also talk of a world that will eventually enlighten itself as was done for the homosexual movement.
I hope and pray that people will never buckle under to such pressure, lines must be drawn and maintained. Society must learn to think critcally.
Yes it should be legal for two 14 year-olds to have sex and illegal for a 14 and a 41 year old.
Also a 17 and a 19 year old is NOT the same thing as a 17 and 34 year old….
Also when I was in HS, there was a male teacher or 2 that had to practically fight the girls off and I wouls not have minded doing my second pricipal *the first was a man, so I would have not wanted that), so coercion should be factored in when dealing with statuary rape…..
I know a little about NAMBLA, and one of the services they offer their member is a confidential travel agency to handy trips to Cambodia, Thailand and other countries that are more “permissive about adult – child sexual relations.
These people are the fucking scum of the earth, and the only reasons they all aren’t sharing a cell block in some prison are lawyers and our friends at the ACLU. While it’s illegal to have sex with an eight-year-old boy, it not illegal to advocate making it legal to do so, or to promote their lifestyle, as fucked up as it is. It’s all very First-Amendment-ty and obviously way over my head, but that’s how I understand it.
Wow, man, you’re just … clueless.
Its been proven by some strange and large margin that most pedophiles who like young boys are not themselves gay. Unfortunately, scum like NAMBLA try to elicit sympathy by playing the human condition and comparing their battles to the ever-mounting struggle that homosexuals and those of minorities that experience racism have been through.
The truth is that it isn’t just wrong to engage in sexual activities with a minor, its physically and mentally detrimental. Children who suffer from molestations are prone to debilitating mental and physical conditions, even if the molesting happened prior to being ‘informed’, if you will, of the act being illegal, taboo or morally wrong.
I believe everyone is created equal and that regardless of sex, gender, race, creed or beliefs, that evil exists in everybody. I’m not being pessimistic, but I am an humanitarian existentialist, in a way.
To summarize my babbling (Its Monday, early, and my office is pleasantly silent and calm so far *knocks on desk!*), I hate that horrible groups like NAMBLA associate themselves with people who find them just as disgusting and offensive just to attempt ‘connecting’ and legalizing their revolting behavior.
Obviously your views are distorted by your own experiences and I don’t say that to sound insulting. Men can be predators…gay or straight. I am gay and am repulsed by NAMBLA as are many other gays.
I once had a man (50ish) walk into my t-shirt shop that was in a very gay town. He proceeded to tell me how he wanted to buy his “boyfriend” a present. As the conversation progressed, I found out this kid was 14 or 15 years old. He said that the kid didn’t mind the age difference but had to keep it secret from his parents. I told him that there was a reason that there is an age of consent and that he had no business with this kid. I was furious and he went fleeing from my store.
When I asked my psychologist friend why he would share that with me, she said that they are looking for validation for their aberrant behavior. It’s unfortunate for us that they latch on to our movement because gays are constantly labeled by the right as pedophiles. They want and need justification and validation and see themselves as having a different sexual orientation too. But please know that there is no comparison.
Thanks Max for coming around…I admire you more all of the time.
Morning Anonymous in pa, you know what irks me about being gay? The fact that there seems to be ‘levels’ of gay’ness so to speak…(completely different here in oz to what it is over there) but still around none the less, I’ll even go asfar as to say that gay men are treated way different to us female’s, which to me is just weird…
What is “oz”? I do get treated differently as a gay woman because I look like it. I’m not really masculine but wear mens clothes and wear my hair short…I wish I could afford to live where i used to, so i could go back to just being me and not have to think or worry about being gay. It’s front and center most of the time, which sucks…but that’s life in most of the good ol’ US of A. I don’t plan to retire here though…I’ll probably end up back in New England, where they’re much more tolerant…even though it’s cold…brrr…lol.
oz is australia, :) and I also seem to dress like yourself, mine is mostly comfort (wouldn’t call it masculine) would call it ummm ‘cuddly”lumpy”round’…lol…to the comment below, IMO I agree to an extent, but it’s not just about the porn or the ‘guy on guy thing’..
“I’ll even go asfar as to say that gay men are treated way different to us female’s, which to me is just weird…”
I think that’s because people are repulsed by the idea of men having sex, whereas with two women, it’s a turn-on…look at all of the straight porn…
OZ is Australia. :)
I am repulsed by the idea of old people having sex. I mean EEEEWWW, which wrinkle do you diddle??? It’s got to be amazing to be able to take your teeth out, but that’s just disgusting!
Sounds dumb, right? Why? Because it’s not my damn business what two consenting adults (HEAR THAT, NAMBLA?) do in their own private relationship.
I should be able to walk down the street with my arm around my best friend. I am straight, she is gay, hugging is a display of affection. Affection doesn’t automatically mean we are having sex, but if we were who’s business is that? And why should someone force their assumptions on us, even if they are right? Again, who cares?
I kiss my Dad good bye each time I leave him. I see him once in a great while, as he lives with my entire family in another state. I kiss him full on the lips. I don’t linger, nothing like that, but why don’t people assume I’m his younger lover? Do they? Should they care? It’s not their business.
If people would just mind their own personal business, the world would be a better place. I no hurtie you, you no hurtie me, and that should be the end of that. I don’t mean opinions shouldn’t be expressed, but if I’m not hurting you or anyone else, why should you have a right to tell me who I can love? Is ‘Hell’ full of people who committed the sin of love? If so, that’s one fantastic crowd that I’d be honored to spend eternity with.
Unfortunately most people are dumb, terrified animals with no respect for one and other. As long as the rest of us can remain logical about it, maybe we can keep the animals functioning on this side of anarchy for a bit longer.
NAMBLA doesn’t have allies or outside support. Since the early 90s it barely even exists except for some PO box that sends out newsletters every other year.
One person is never responsible for another person’s actions. NAMBLA could be allowed to march in every pride parade on Earth (no, it is not allowed to march in any of them) and Jack Price still wouldn’t owe anybody an apology. It doesn’t matter whether he looks like someone else who perved on you (not that you can see him well, and he’d been beaten up and probably couldn’t shave while he was in a coma). That’s your problem. If some woman had her purse snatched by a black guy who looked vaguely like me, that doesn’t entitle her to make any assumptions about me.
You know why these punks attacked him. They couldn’t have had any other reason but hate. They don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
I love the two cars that drive right past him-that is just amazing to me. Those two guys are worthless pieces of shit. I hope when they go to court they get the book thrown at them, and I hope Jack Price recovers soon. Poor guy.
I couldn’t even finish watching the video. My heart goes out to Jack Price. Who are these two worthless pieces of shit to do what they did? This man was minding his own business and they feel it is their place to beat him because he is gay? These two deserve to be shot. I am so sick of the way some people out there treat gays. I’d love to get a hold of these two.
Thank goodness for the video, they probably would have gotten away with their cowardly act if not for that.
I won’t watch the video. I just can’t, especially after seeing the photo of this poor man in hospital.
People who hate on others for superficial reasons like color, sexual orientation, etc. are depriving themselves of some really incredible human beings. I would say I pity them, but not when they react like this.
I think these two scat piles should be locked in a small cage outside and deprived of everything ever invented, conceived of or contributed to by a gay man or woman. They couldn’t physically survive the experience.
I read somewhere (can’t cite the source because it’s been a while) that Sir Isaac Newton was gay. So in honor of Gay Newton, I insist these two charming, intelligent chaps immediately fall off the planet. They shouldn’t be allowed to use gravity. It’s a gay discovery, and therefore not something they should taint themselves with.
My best friend came out about 2 years ago, and has been struggling with her sense of self for a while because of her family’s bigotry. They look at me ‘funny’ because they think I have some sort of sexual involvement with her. She had a crush on me and was confused by her emotions about women for a while until she accepted herself. It’s so sad that a person has to ‘accept’ herself when she’s been raised to believe her emotions are wrong. She’s an alcoholic now, and I’ve been trying to be there for her through it. If only people would accept each other for who we all are as people. It just doesn’t seem to be in our genetic makeup.
I totally don’t get the “I hate gay people” opinion. Especially how straight men hate gay men. When my husband broke my jaw, I had to move in with a friend who already had someone else living with her. The someone else was a gay woman and there was only one spare full size bed, so we both slept in it. She knew I was straight and never made an overture towards me for the entire month I stayed there and slept in the same bed with her. We talked a lot about straight vs. gay. She also was pretty fucked up trying to figure out her attitudes and her place in the world, and it made me realize how difficult it would be to grow up knowing you were permanently different from most everyone else.
Morning all, I’ve had my coffee (thank god!!) I’m putting in my 10 cents worth due to the fact that I was exactly like Vcbecky’s friend “My best friend came out about 2 years ago, and has been struggling with her sense of self for a while because of her family’s bigotry. They look at me ‘funny’ because they think I have some sort of sexual involvement with her. She had a crush on me and was confused by her emotions about women for a while until she accepted herself. It’s so sad that a person has to ‘accept’ herself when she’s been raised to believe her emotions are wrong.”
Except it was me doing it about 8 years ago, left my 10 yr marriage, my home and moved interstate to be with someone I met on the net, sadly it didnt last and I’m back home now, but the emotions, the feelings, the fear, the retribution (even here in Australia and this kinda small community) stuns me to this day, my best friend goes through shit everytime we go out ‘the looks’ ‘the whispers’ and the finger pointing. I don’t flaunt it, I don’t do parades, but I will be one of the first out there if something is said, just like I would if someone was hurting animals. MOPO People (actually wouldn’t even call them that) have to have something to ‘hate’ to ‘blame’ so they then can have the excuse to go out and do what they’ve done here, you hear it all the time, I have two favourite sayings ‘whatever’ and ‘coulda shoulda woulda …but didn’t'…if those people in the car had some decency their probably in that catergory the difference is good people don’t let it get to the ‘ but didn’t’ part.
How can anyone hate someone for loving someone else? Isn’t that the whole point? LOVE is the point! People are all flesh and bone, the only differences are superficial. I love who I love, and to hell with anyone who can’t handle it.
Who knows vcbecky, going by some of the stories on here some people don’t even know the difinition of ‘Love’ if they did they wouldn’t be on here (just reading another story/post on here where the mother ‘loved’ the their child/boyfriend/girlfiend/husband/wife…or pet…whatever…It took me 32 years before I actually had the nerve? courage? to come out, all my friends knew before I did so to speak, so when I did it was like ‘finally’. My family has nothing to do with me (parents) but that’s their choice I guess..
My grown daughters like to hold my hand when they walk with me in public. I always felt uncomfortable doing this primarily because if you want to know what it’s like to be gay, hold hands with your grown daughter while walking through the mall. People are downright nasty and feel very free about treating you like shit if they think you’re gay. Thank God we never got the hell beaten out of us in the Macy’s parking lot after shopping for shoes.
Damn I missed it lol….knew I should have gotten up earlier instead of being lazy…. :)
Max, thank you for this article. It was very sensitively written and quite moving. You’ve got a good head on your shoulders…maybe your note will have a positive influence on people’s views on the gay thing.
That’d be nice. And different. Who would have ever thought I’d be a voice for compassion and tolerance in Gay/Straight relations.
You know, at first, all I did was try and refrain from using the word ‘faggot’, the same way I don’t use the ‘N’ word. The rest came from listening to my common sense. That’s the thing about bigots and homophobes – nothing they say really makes sense, at least not when you honestly examine it.
These guys will get what’s coming to them. Prison will hold some special treats for these skinny, cowardly assholes.
man i wish a cop would have seen this and tazed these homosexual haters… who cares if they’re gay? doesn’t that leave more vagina for the straight? i dont get homophobes for that reason lol… i dont think they should be punished to hell eternally, but i do hope they get prison time
This story broke my heart. Thankfully, Mr. Price is out of his coma today and is expected to make it. :)
As for Mr. Rodriguez’s sister trying to defend him, I mean I can’t blame her, hes her family. All I can say to Ms. Rodriguez is this, if your brother is not anti-gay than hes just a piece of shit who wants to beat on anyone he can get a cheap shot on(because hes prob scared to fight a man whose on his feet). I don’t know which is worse IMO. These two pieces of shit are being charged with a hate crime (thank goodness) and will serve a LONG prison sentence if convcted. So, Mr. Aleman and Mr. Rodriguez better practice grabbing their ankles, they’re gonna need the flexibility where they are going.
Mr. Price, keep doing what you do and I hope you make a full recovery. You are a human being and a much bigger person than these two pieces of shit.
All you gay haters out there: stop being so damn ignorant. do you think these poeple choose to be gay? Lets be realistic shall we?
He’s out of his coma? That’s fantastic news! Thank you so much for posting it! I wish I’d seen it sooner! :D
Rodriguez was captured in Norfolk, Virginia? That’s my city! Look ma, we’re on PYSIH!
Not much to say about this article other than it’s an interesting and disturbing read. I’d hate to be in Mr. Price’s shoes, brutally attacked for no good reason. The case itself isn’t controversial; two young men committed a violent hate crime for which they should be severely punished.
Here is the real injustice of the American criminal system. These two guys are CLEARLY a greater menace to society than someone whose only crime is selling a little crack. Yet, bail for these two pieces of the lowest of the lowest scums comes to a whopping $20,000. In other words, pay a bail bondsman a mere $3,000 and you’re out free to beat up someone else. This is a society that feels more threaten by a common crack addict whose bail have been MUCH higher for the crime of putting the crack in their own (not somebody else’s) body. A few months ago Coolio was busted for having a very small quantity of PERSONAL stash on him. His bail was $10,000. So this government’s message is this: the lesser of the two “evils” (smoking crack or the crime of these two men) is picking out a totally innocent person, savagely and barbarically, without the slightest provocation, beating them almost to death (so long as they’re hanging on to life by a thread). That, I submit, is an extremely sick society where the actual commission of life-threatening violence is the minor crime.
Truly disgusting. I think I’m still where you said you were Max… right of center… but I would never advocate or support anyone who inflicted harm on anyone because of their sexuality. We humans can debate whether or not people are born homosexual or not until the cows come home, but the fact is… it does NOT matter. There have always been homosexuals and will always be, just like there have always been people of every race and there will always be diversity in race, so we had just better accept it.
Well said mwc, like you said anyone can debate anything, (it seems like theirs always something to debate whether it be gays, straight’s, whites, blacks) but when it boils down to it, we are who we are, as much as people want to (and try to) change, there will always be controversy….
Thank you so much for this story!! You wrote it with compassion and insight. I saw this on the local news and wept.
Living in New York City, I have to say that I disagree with many of the things people have posted here. New Yorkers are not the ‘don’t get involved’ people they were in the crime-ridden days of the 70s. 9/11 really changed this city. People do get involved and help out others. I’ve seen it numerous times on the street, the subway, etc.
I don’t know why the car drove by and didn’t stop to help or call 911. Either they were complete assholes or they didn’t see what was going on. This happened at around 4am, iirc. But, don’t think that kind of behavior is representative of New Yorkers in general!
As far as the Gay community goes, NAMBLA is an evil, abhorrent group that has NOTHING to do with the Gay community nor are they tolerated by the Gay Community. It is really distressing to be reading of gays and NAMBLA being linked in anyone’s mind!
What NAMBLA advocates is completely disgusting, criminal, and demonstratively damaging. What the Gay Community advocates is equal civil rights and acceptance to be allowed to love another consenting adult without being attacked, persecuted, or losing their civil rights.
Gays are just like anyone else. They want to love and be loved, respect and be respected.
Fred, my guess is you could ask any of the female posters and they will tell you stories of guys acting completely inappropriate in public towards them. That is not a gay phenomenon but a human one!
And nowhere is inappropriate sexual behavior in public tolerated–no matter who does it gay or straight!
Just put that 2 punks in Jail.I don’t want say that hispanics are bad but lots of hispanic men do the similar stuffs that i know. One day i got off from the big beer place, some of hispanic men were
screaming at us(Hot asians, I’m 5”9′inch model)from behind us because I was almost ignoring him, when one hispanic man came to say Hello to me.because I didn’t want to talk to him and said,”I’m waiting for my girl friend’’so that hispanic guy wanted to say something to us when he saw us again outside of bar.they were walking behind us and saying something to us loudly(It wasnot a racial slur but about racial stuff!) I don’t like much gays and hispanics but CAN WE JUST LEAVE THEM EACH OTHER??people are different!!!!! Hope Mr.Price gets well soon…
“This wasn’t a hate crime.” Christina Rodriguez told the paper. “If he’s guilt[y] of anything, he’ll man up to it.”
Riiiiight…sure he will! I’m not holding my breath for that one!
I’m very happy to see that Jack Price is doing okay. Good luck, man.
This was absolutely a hate crime. I say give them life & let them see what a faggot is. Ole’ Bubba needs a couple new bitches and these two are scrawny ass, young & tender they’ll serve him well. Mr. Price is 100X the human they are combined.
My uncle was killed for being gay. A group of men followed him and beat him up severly and left him for dead then he was run over and they drove off. Reading stories like this really pisses me off.
I’m so sorry, Lainey. That’s horrible, and there’s nothing any of us can say to make it any better. Killing someone because they prefer an outie over an innie is about as idiotic as persecuting someone for naming a teddy bear ‘Mohamed’.
Public thinking is starting to turn. Up-and-coming generations are not going to put up with that kind of ignorance in their ranks. Homophobics are belittled by and ostracized from all of the social circles I know, and I have a very broad range of friends and acquaintances of all ages. Most kids in high school and college absolutely will not tolerate bigotry of any kind. As the old guard dies, new minds will take over and homophobia will be relegated to the same page as ’slavery’ in the history of America.
Thank you for those kind words VCBecky. I agree with you. I also have a gay friend and we are in highschool and he is picked on pretty bad, unfortunately. I really hope somethings is done about the homophobics. I’m not saying everyone has to agree with homosexuallity but I am saying they should respect them just as any other human being. I hope the world changes in which these kind of things will no longer happen. Also, many adolescants(sorry for any misspelling)get homophobia from their parents or guardians. They hear horrible statements from parents or guardians or witness disrespect towords other people done by their parents or guardians. Other adolescants can encourage this barbaric behavior as well.
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