Jonathan Alicea
Once again we have a case of a mother using her live in penis, uh, I mean boyfriend, as daycare, and having said boyfriend injure the child he was supposed to be taking care of.
One of the things I’ve noticed about abuse cases like this is that the victims are almost always from the most helpless and difficult of age groups, from newborn through age three. Anyone who has had children knows that this is the age group that tests your patience the most. They cry constantly and can’t communicate why. They won’t go to sleep, no matter how much you want them to or how tired you are. They misbehave and challenge your authority. They refuse to potty train and mess themselves at the worst possible moments.
In this particular case, Silkia Mateo, 22, (Her MySpace Picture Albums – Thanks mamacyn) of Kissimmee, Florida, left her 2-year-old son, Jariel Alexander, and his 6-year-old sibling with her teenaged boyfriend, Jonathan Alicea, while she went to work. I am unaware of the special set of skills a 19-year-old young man has that qualify him to care for two young children, and apparently so was Ms. Mateo, as we shall see.
Alicea had cooked dinner for himself and his two charges, scrambled eggs and hot dogs, which little Jariel refused to eat. This, of course, frustrated 
Jonathan Ariel, and he grew angry and shouted at the boy. Jariel got frightened, stood up, and proceeded to wet his pants. The boy became defiant and refused to change his pants when Alicea ordered him to.
So we have reached the critical point, when Jonathan Alicea has to make a choice. He can’t let a three year old boy get the best of him, or he’ll walk all over him. So how does he discipline him? Does he take the boy into the bathroom and change his underwear for him, showing him that now matter what, the adult is always in charge. Of course not. Instead, he slapped Jariel hard across the head, slamming it against the wall of the hallway.
Jariel immediately lost consciousness. When he stopped breathing, Jonathan Alicea took a pot of boiling water and poured it over the little boy’s face in an attempt to revive him. I had to thank God that Jariel never regained consciousness after reading this. I mean who is that stupid to think pouring boiling water on a child’s face is a good idea under ANY circumstances?
Of course, Jonathan Alicea had a slightly different story to tell the police. He told the police that when the Jariel Alexander refused to change his pants:
“This angered Jonathan. Jonathan told me he walked towards [the child] and “pushed” [the child's] head with his left hand. This caused [the child] to lose consciousness immediately.”
After performing CPR with no results, Jonathan Alicea:
“boiled a pot of water and then poured it on [the child] stating he believed it would revive him.”
“During the interview, Jonathan Alicea showed no emotion whatsoever.”
Asked why he waited at least 30 minutes before seeking help, Alicea told police:
“his cell phone is disconnected and he does not like to depend on neighbors for anything.”
The injuries were not reported until the child’s mother returned home from work about 7 PM. Jonathan Alicea came running outside with the lifeless child wrapped in a towel and told her the baby was choking. Doctors at Arnold Palmer Memorial Hospital in Orlando, Florida, said the Jariel arrived at their emergency room covered with 
burns and suffering from a severe head injury.
Jariel Alexander died at 11:15PM Sunday night. An autopsy is expected to be performed on the young child’s body today. In the meantime, Jonathan Alicea has been charged with First Degree Murder.
Silkia Mateo, mother of Jariel Alexander, has not been charged in this case. Perhaps losing her son is enough of a penalty for leaving her children with Jonathan Alicea, nearly a kid himself.
God help me for thinking this, and even more for actually saying it out loud, but I see these situations where some women are taking up with younger, teenaged boys and using these kids as daycare as a case of them selling themselves for the convenience of having someone to watch their kids while they work.
This is something that’s been eating at me for a long time now, and maybe its time someone said it. Perhaps I’m using the wrong words, or I’m way too rude and crude about it (Let’s face it, subtlety has never been a strong point of mine), but I’m tired of innocent little children lining up for their coffins. I’m also tired of the silence about this issue. I understand that child care is a serious issue for single mothers, but there has to be a better way – and this is certainly not the right way.
I also think the boiling water story that Jonathan Alicea told police is total bullshit. I believe he poured the boiling water on Jariel Alexander’s face to punish him, and that the boy was conscious when he did it. The boiling water torture came first, then the slap to the head. It just doesn’t make sense to me that anyone would use boiling water in an attempt to revive a child who has stopped breathing, and if it doesn’t make sense, it probably isn’t true. I ask you all, have any of you ever heard of anything even remotely close to what Jonathan Alicea did with that pot of boiling water, for the reason he stated?
Does Jonathan Alicea Deserve Hell?
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In this case and the many identical cases the murderer/abuser always had a uncontrolled need to show power…even if it is to a harmless baby…
And that’s what pisses me off every time i happen to read a story about a older person forcing their “authority” on a helpless victim.
I wrote about Alicea when he was first arrested and out of many scumbags that we come across he is one that just sticks in my head. I hope the slimeball burns in hell.
Where’s your story Richard? I’d like to read it. It’s cool to post the link here if you want to.
http://www.shadowscope.com/archives/2009/10/jonathan_alicea_killed_a_two_year_old_for_peeing_h.php
It never ceases to amaze me the number of women that will keep a useless penis around to the detriment of their children.
I run three restaurants and among the waitresses there it’s pretty common. Not that I would ever post about anyone that worked for me, but I keep waiting for one of them to end up on the front page over here or one of the other sites I frequent.
Sure man, I remember your site now. I read it all the time – it’s one of my favorite crime blogs. You guys should check Shadowscope out, it’s most definitely worth a visit:
http://www.shadowscope.com/
hey I recognized his avatar asap! I read your blog all the time as well. looks like all the cool people come here Max ;-)
The problem is that penises are quite handy to have around. Quite fun, actually!
It’s when they are attached to POS violent lowlifes that they become essentially ‘useless’.
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What is the deal lately with early-20′s women hooking up with teen boys? Especially where the woman works and the teen doesn’t? What possible use around the house could a teenaged boy be?
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Also- EVERYONE who knows anything about parenting knows it is harder to potty-train boys than girls. And the best way is the ‘no-diaper’ way, which you don’t start until after 2 years. For some reason, little girls (unless sexually abused) would prefer to not sit around in a wet diaper, whereas it doesn’t bother boys as much. Killing any child for peeing their pants should get the death penalty.
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And, while serving hotdogs and eggs for dinner might be fun once in a while, I’m going to guess this was a regular occurence, since teenaged boys aren’t the best cooks. I’d have turned my nose up at it, too. Maybe he wanted the Lucky Charms he got the night before, or the Pop=tarts from the night before that?
You don’t hire bulldozers to fix your sink, and you don’t sleep with teenaged boys for free rent and baby-sitting services.
Where are the grandparents of these abused little kids?
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Boiling water? To wake someone up? Bullshit. What’s the 6-year-old say about what happened? I’ll bet it will be a lot different from what the scumbag child-killer told the cops.
He should be boiled alive, made into hot dogs and then fed to pigs.
I’d like to hear what the 6 year old has to say as well. A 6 year old can talk pretty clearly and therefore has a sort of defense from scum like this.
I don’t care what this Alicea fuck says in his defense. If his “logic” consists of pouring boiling water on anything to make it better then he needs to be off the streets anyway. None of this “my client is a dumb fuck and therefore should get away with his crime” for this POS.
No way. I like pork to much to do that to a pig. Besides I dont want mad pig syndrome.
What the hell kind of world is it when you can say the words I thank god the child never regained consciousness and mean it? A can’t imagine the pain he would have been in after having boiling water blister his face, yet another idiot that will have a couple hundred thousand spent on taking care of him in prison and trying to “rehabilitate” him-waste of resources. I vote to take him to polar bear island, drop him off wearing nothing but shorts and let the polar bear brunch begin (don’t want the polar bears choking on unnecessary clothing items!)
Unless he had a pot of boiling water just sitting around already, he had to have deliberately set the water on and wait for it to boil, THEN poured it on this child’s face. This was not an accidental or spur of the moment act.
I’ve heard of pouring ice water or cold water on someone to revive them, but hot water, let alone boiling water??? It doesn’t even make sense. Of course, I wouldn’t expect a sorry excuse for a human like this to make sense.
Let him burn.
Also, have you seen this?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-kpd-attmurder-child-101209,0,4818729.story
“A criminal history compiled by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement shows Alicea was arrested twice as a juvenile and charged with sex crimes.”
Max – I must agree with your assesment – he boiling water came first…
Given that the mother was (from the math I see) was 16 when the first child was born and 20 when the second was born, I am assuming that she
1. does not know how to pick men very well
2. Did not learn from the first child that children are not pets
3. Her life is rough – now by her own choices Sure she may have been abused, but the children – um….. she did not need to be fucking at 15…… or at 19,as an adult, should have used better means of birth control….
BUT she did not commit the murder…………
Lousy mpther? yes Many lousy mothers children grow up – some do become “successful” against more odds than those who have decent parents
So the worst I blame her for is having 2 kids at such a young age – 1 kid well – that’s life, 2 that’s life of a stupid person (who did not learn from the first time or a welfare queen)
This POS and other 19 year olds – if you can’t deal with the child(ren) – plenty of porn – go home and go to hardsextube.com – it’s free, does not have lids, does not produce kids, turns on when you are turned on, shuts off on command….. No one gets hurt!
I am confused, Fred. I am not saying she is a good mother, or a bad one. But how does the fact that she had children at a young age make her a lousy mother? I know a lot of people who were mothers at young ages (I being one of them) who are some of the best parents I have ever seen. They are responsible, loving, devoted parents who work their asses off to take care of their children and their children have or are in the process of growing up to be good, kind, successful people. If this is even the case, which nothing has stated that it is, the only thing that would make this girl a bad parent is her poor judgement to leave this freakshow alone with her kids. And while he is very young himself, who is to say he displayed any signs that he would commit such a heinous act? You know, even people we know and are so sure we can trust are capable of doing god-awful things such as this.
She wasn’t ready to be a mother, and she still isn’t. I checked out her pictures on MySpace. She has an entire section devoted to photos of herself in a variety of skimpy outfits. She looks like a fun person who is focused on partying. For a girl her age, that kind of mindset would be just fine if she didn’t have kids. If only she was taking precautions.
I don’t think all women who have kids out of wedlock or in their teens are terrible, irresponsible whores who could never make good mothers. I do think the vast majority of them are not ready to be mothers. “Oopsie” kids aren’t necessarily mistakes, nor are they always unwanted. But an ‘Oopsie” kid born to someone who isn’t ready for the responsibility, who sees a child as a fun toy that all of her friends have, is almost always destined for a really tough life.
This poor, beautiful boy. I’ve stated before how happy I am with my childless marriage – I have time to do all of those insane things that I want to with my life without worrying about the myriad challenges that come with motherhood. I’d give it up without hesitation if someone told me the only way to bring this angel back was for me to be his mother.
I have a few friends that got married quite young and had beautiful families and my wife has a friend whose family started out with an “oops” as well.
One of my friends dropped out of high school to start her family. I believe she home schooled her 5 children while they were in the lower grades and they went to public school for the higher grades. Some of her children are missionaries.
I also had a few friends who started families before they were ready. I actually contacted one of the children and see that they have not “friended” the parent on facebook or myspace and yet the parent has a profile……
Many of the succesfull parents stayed together, but I know of some single mothers that did very well by their children as well. The main difference was once the child was born, who was #1, #2, #3, etc…. Was the parent(s) ready to place someone else’s needs at least equal to if not above their own? Same with wants?
Why ever she had the first child, I am assuming that she thought that things would only get better or would not be so tough with a second child – wrong! It sounds like she ended up scraping the bottom of the trash can rather than just picking off the top of the heap…
I”ve seen some peoples’ lives turn around with a child, and others put their child thru hell, so I am not saying age makes a woman a better mother, I am saying that our society does not support younger mothers very well – youth is about partying, hooking up, breaking up and spending money on credit cards which can be paid back later (if one watches enough TV)
From what I have read about this girl’s myspace page – motherhood is not one ofher primary attributes and that’s just sad………..
Fred- She just didn’t read the “What to Expect when You’re Shacking up with a Teenaged Boy” book.
Chapter 13 clearly states that teenaged new-penis boys should be instructed on the proper way to apply boiling water when head trauma doesn’t help with the potty-training issues.
She also didn’t read the chapter entitled “You really don’t need a New Penis when You have Small Children”, also known as- “Use birth-control and don’t let Violent People Babysit your kids for You”.
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I think I found the mom’s myspace:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewAlbums&friendID=430264881
Poor baby. :(
Good job mamacyn, this is definitely her. Now we have pictures of the baby and the mom. Have you ever seen a cuter kid in all you life?
The POS already had the water boiling on, when the baby pissed his pants. He said that he made eggs and hot dogs. I boil water for hot dogs to cook in on the stove. He probably just grabbed that off the stove.
Thanks for putting 2+2 togther better than I – makes sense, scum that hurts children will lie to protect themselves. One does not think such scum likes consequences………. if he did, he could always yell N***** at an NAACP conference, or wear a Yamikah to a mosque….
I dont get it… Perhaps I am an uptight person, but my kid stays with nobody but GRANDMA… the same Grandma that raised me and 2 others with no” incidents”…
Thats becasue you can think and reason. Your children are not posessions to show off .your children are to love and protect. To let grow in to adults who love and protect thier children.
My hats off to you.
I have a daughter who just turned 12. She know I would kill or die for her. Her mother and I are gettin a divorce. It’s getting ugly but thank god in heaven we are working hard to keep her out of it. It’s only about money right now. But I did tell my wife’s lawyer that I would give half my paycheck for my daughter if needed but not a dime to my ex. I would eat raman and bread if need be to help my daughter.
Maybe society should have a place to drop off a kid before you kill it, like the deal with newborns…no charges, no questions. Make it so that the second time you drop the kid off, the government gets to keep it.
Although even that might not stop evil shitheads like this POS.
G’day TBS, How sad that this post actually made me realise the world truly sucks sometimes…and you are right it probably wouldn’t help.
janey – There’s a lot of people who should never be left with a small child. There’s this pervasive attitude that children are easy to watch and to supervise that makes people think they can leave their kids with anybody. It’s not true, and only people who have spent a large amount of time around a toddler or a teenager know how incredibly irritating children can be sometimes. I’m actually surprised that we don’t hear MORE stories like this; God knows I’ve wanted to kill my kids occasionally, and there are plenty of people in this world who can’t control themselves well enough to step back from the situation and take a breather. Or a big shot of whiskey. Or half a pack of cigarettes smoked on the back porch while the kid throws the rest of its temper tantrum in the living room.
I agree whole heartedly, in some situations to hear what people have done whilst being left with a child makes me ill.
On the other hand, I babysit a boy 18 month old (neighbour, well one house up) and he is just so gorgeous, what amazes me the most (as I don’t have any myself) what some parents actually deal with somedays. Huge Kudos To All Parents Who Post on here by the way ….I love being the ‘aunty’ as they all know they can get away with most things, up until a point. I’ve let them work it out between themselves with the advice of “don’t come complaining to me unless your bleeding”…or the stern face of ‘I’m telling your father’ (not that that one got used much, can’t/couldn’t keep a straight face if I tried…lol)….
When I was 15, my Aunt asked me to babysit my infant cousin. It made me feel all grown up and trustworthy.
I was so careful and attentive. I treated her like she was made of tissue paper and would tear if I even breathed on her. In my haste to get to the kitchen to heat a bottle, I whacked her head against a door jam. It was a simple mistake, but I felt HORRIBLE about it. I immediately called the parents and confessed. They assured me that she was probably fine, and they’d check when they got home. She had a small red spot, but no bump and she only cried for a couple of minutes. She really was fine. I still felt terrible. Heck, I still feel terrible even now and she’s grown with kids of her own!
If a 15 year old girl without any mommy aspirations of her own can feel that kind of automatic concern, I can’t imagine a grown man (relatively speaking) could have any other reaction. I just can’t wrap my mind around that kind of selfishness.
Actually, Nebraska’s state law includes infants, children and teenagers. Some guy dropped off nine of his kids aged 1 to 17 at a hospital there last year. So, all you fucknuts out there, if you’re tired of looking after your kids and would rather kill them, take a road trip to Nebraska!
All over Texas we have what are called “safe sites” were a person can drop off kids with out getting in any trouble. They include fire houses, police stations, and most of the major quick stores like racetrac and quick trip. And that is just a very short list and they are in every city. If you were to look you would see them were you live also, As most states have them now.
I agree with you about the boiling water as well. He most likely poured it on the child while he was still conscious.
Damn I missed that, you are likely right, he was already boiling the water and in a rage threw it on the child, then tried to shut up the screaming child. I don’t want to imagine how much pain the boy was in..
I’m not sure if anyone else mentioned this as I didn’t fully read the comments made so far, but I noticed you missed this interesting tidbit Max.
“When the child stopped breathing the report stated Alicea placed the child in an empty bedroom dresser drawer and attempted CPR with no results. Alicea “boiled a pot of water and then poured it on (the child) stating he believed it would revive him.”
Source: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-kpd-attmurder-child-101209,0,4818729.story
Who the heck thinks “OMG kid’s not breathing! Quick throw him in the dresser drawer and start CPR!” Definitely the last place I’d want to attempt CPR, never mind the fact I don’t know many kids at even the tender age of 2 that will fit in a dresser drawer..
I’m tiny, standing just over 5’3″ and all 4 of my kids have been itty bitty munchkins (stature wise) at that age, but I guarantee that my 2 year old wouldn’t fit in a drawer of any kind without some serious cramming.
I also agree with the boiling water theory.This sickens me im just glad he didn’t rape that poor child before all the violence.
I’m so f**king tired of seeing shit like this. :*( Something has got to be done.
Big Big….BIG YES from across the waters nicole….
I swear when ever I’m looking up children’s story’s and find one that is just so mind numbingly awful I’m usually lead back to my friends here at PYSIH. Wonderful write up Max, and I totally agree with you, there is no way in hell that this happened this way.
My guess is this; John had boiled those hot dogs, the water was on the stove when his little skirmisher with the tyke started and in anger he grabbed the water and threw it in the boy’s face. Then (understandably) the child wailed in agony, the blood curdling screams made John silence him fast by hitting him with all his might into a wall.
That’s my take and I’m betting that’s how the truth will come out… On the other hand maybe he really is that much of a numb skull to think reviving someone with boiling water was a good idea. Either way I hope and prey this guy gets shanked in prison.
I still like my boil him- make him into hot dogs- feed them to some pigs idea!
You know, I treat my *CATS* better than some people treat their kids. That’s pretty damn sad, really. =^..^=
I will only leave him pets with a rare limited amount of people I know and trust if I have to leave town, I cannot believe these women barely know a man and leave a helpless child with them
“I am unaware of the special set of skills a 19-year-old young man has that qualify him to care for two young children,”
You’re wielding a mighty big brush there, Wrath. When I was 14 and up, I often babysat my two sisters, 4 years and 8 years younger and no one died, spent time in the hospital or required medical care.
The most required skills being patience and common-fscking-sense.
/Yes, I do have a child, and she was born when I was 30.
//Yes I would allow a 19 year old young man to care for my daughter, after a suitable interview of course.
Suitable Interview????? …..wow…you go girl…..good luck with that
Need more foil. Right on top, methinks.
I would never recommend leaving a child with a male baby sitter. Statistically speaking, it is much more common for there to be inappropriate behaviors involving a male baby sitter than a female one.
I know I am using a very broad brush to paint a whole group of people; but, when it comes to children, much better to be safe than sorry.
And, yes, I baby sat my 5 younger siblings many times as we grew up–without issue. Don’t care if it sounds hypocritical–don’t use male baby sitters!!
I was wondering why all the men are just okay with the assumption that anyone with a penis will probably kill a child that is not biologically theirs. Seems pretty insulting.
Damn, that’s a good question. It is insulting. You’re totally right.
In an attempt to answer, I think the men who frequently post here are all too aware of the dangers of mixing selfish, ignorant, lazy stupidity with testosterone. They read about the results all the time. Add a vulnerable child to the mix and you are really tempting fate. Not ALL men are like that. Enough are that it’s better to be safe and insulting.
Just because something is insulting doesn’t mean it’s untrue.
(BTW, what did you think of the ending of the Dark Tower series? I’m torn, m’self. Hah!)
“I think the men who frequently post here are all too aware of the dangers of mixing selfish, ignorant, lazy stupidity with testosterone. They read about the results all the time.”
Your posts equates paints men to be selfish, ignorant & lazy (the stupidity being redundant). As a man and a responsible father who was often left “dangerously alone (!!!!)” with my daughter when my wife was back in school for a second career, I find your statement to be both repugnant and misinformed.
We read about it with some frequency here, but with startlingly more frequency are the stories involving the mother alone or the mother along with the father.
Apologies if I offend, it is not my intent. Rather, someone needs to stand up for the male population.
*”Your posts equates paints men to be selfish, ignorant & lazy (the stupidity being redundant).”*
You’re trying too hard with that thesaurus.
I wrote, including the caps, “not ALL men are like that”. It’s good policy to read a persons’ entire post before insulting them.
‘Stupidity’ in that sentence is not redundant. ‘Ignorance’ is not ‘stupidity’. Ignorant people are simply uneducated or uninformed, not necessarily stupid which means you’re unable to learn. Ignorance doesn’t necessarily imply stupidity, usually just a lack of opportunity or exposure to a specific subject. In most of the stories about men abusing children on PYSIH, the men are both stupid and ignorant.
*As a man and a responsible father who was often left “dangerously alone (!!!!)” with my daughter when my wife was back in school for a second career, I find your statement to be both repugnant and misinformed.*
Your misinterpretation of my statement is what you find repugnant and misinformed. That’s all on you, tinfoil.
*We read about it with some frequency here, but with startlingly more frequency are the stories involving the mother alone or the mother along with the father.*
Orly? Startlingly more frequency? We should probably leave this one to personal viewpoint.
*Apologies if I offend, it is not my intent. Rather, someone needs to stand up for the male population.*
You did offend, but only because you chose words that were offensive when it wasn’t necessary to do so. I wasn’t attacking the male population as a whole, I was clearly discussing a certain segment of the male population. You’re jumping at shadows.
Well, I can’t respond directly to your post, VCBecky, so I’ll respond here. You called me out and rightly so. My apologies.
Accepted, and well-played. I have nothing but respect for people who have enough self-honesty to apologize, especially in public. It’s rare to run into someone online with that kind of dignity. Thank you.
For the record, I love men. I love men to the point where most of my friends are men. I’m a straight, married female and I can’t stand my own sex most of the time. Catty, petty, illogical, manipulative, selfish bitches, most of them. My best friend is a lesbian, and I can’t fathom how she deals with it!
Amy, Janey, Glorybug and the rest of you chicks on here, if you think I’m talking about you, you’re wrong. It’s the ones who don’t think I’m talking about them that I’m talking about! ;)
Know where ya coming from vcbecky, being the gay female that I am, I’m flabbergasted at the women in this town (the straight and the even the gay ones) for what they do/can/have done. I want to bitch slap them so badly sometimes. Being married for the 10 years that I was I think the same thing about the men here too, although maybe a ad biased on that one….lol…
Look, I love men. They’re terrific. But even leaving my kids with their own father was a chancy kind of thing. I’d come home and he’d be sitting in front of the football game, and I’d ask, “Where are the kids?” and he’d look around like he just woke up. The kids would be in the back yard cutting their own hair or dressing up the cat in baby clothes or feeding the two-year-old mud pies. Nothing bad ever happened, but still. God gives special talents to each sex. Mothers have a special touch with kids; men have a special touch with guns and army stuff and cars. It’s not hypocritical, it’s nature at it’s best.
Bosses Secretary, I too love men, but I have a good example of this phenom that is (not all) men watching children, 7 years ago went to work on a Saturday morning,left my then 5 year old with his Dad. Met up later at my son’s pee wee football game everything was O.K. left game stopped at the store and got paged my Mother was on the phone saying to come home right away. I did and came home to a five alarm fire, my husband had NOT watched my son after I left for work he had gone back to sleep. My son played with matches and hid the smoldering paper from his Dad in the couch…my ex-husband was a good father as long as he was doing things he wanted to do. I am not saying ALL men are this way, what I am trying to say is that if a loving biological father can allow this to happen is it really any shock that a 19 year old kid can be a monster? That little bastard did not care about that baby, he cared about getting into mommies pants…
Well, Me and my lady are apart right now and she has our boy, She knows I will beat the shit out of her if anybody I dont know hurts that boy of mine and thats after I demolish the dirty dickbag(s) that watch him. And you can damn well bet I know were they all live, and work and they all know what I can do as I have read them my RIOT ACT. So we have a deal that I will sit him when she needs a break. After all he is MINE. I will not sleep or eat until he has and as for sleeping we do that at the same time so I know were he is and wht he is up to ( he is just under 2 years old ).I am a 42 year old man and I will gaurd him with my life and will use anybody else I need to in order to keep him safe at all cost. Besides we have to much fun together, and he is a little chick magnet at the strore or were ever I take him when we step out. I dont like when she leaves him with them but until I get back on my feet I just cant have him with me all the time no matter how bad I do. Well I am sad now.
Mr Baker, chin up buddy, everything may seem cruddy right about now, but things get better, they usually do. Kudos to you actually for realising that you are going through a hard time and having the guts to say so, so in my opinion you deserve a pat on the back…
Oh man, how the heck did I come across as a woman? Sh*t.
By suitable interview, I mean after calling references. Nothing more. Now, a 19 year old female babysitter… I digress.
Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way, yes Takuro Spirit I am offended with the assumption that men are not suitable babysitters.
The Bosses Secretary, that is unfortunate for you. Being a father requires more than having a special touch with guns, army stuff & cars. Being a father means helping as equally as possible to raise your children. Ignoring them while a game is on is.. Well, I’m going to stop there, I don’t care to offend.
I read the myspace updates and she states that she is currently pregnant with his child…
I wonder if he would treat his own child different? I
Who WOULD WANT TO HANG AROUND TO FIND OUT? Hopefully the STATE will step in and DO SOMETHING for the irresponsible people who think that SIRING children is a game. Too bad they havent fitted stupid people with some sort of ON/OFF device….for reproducing.
Ok then…wow…you go man….good luck with that…as to the ‘calling references’, you do realise that in today’s world everyone bullshits to get a job???…or they get people to bullshit for them???….either way I’m still gobsmacked that you would type/say this, in here, of all places… it’s an accident waiting to happen……
I’m with you, Janey. That whole ‘suitable interview’ thing really cracks me up. Does he think people can’t fake their way through an interview? Does he really think a 19 year old couldn’t give him fake numbers to friends cel phones for references? Is he really that gullible? Heck, I’ve given excellent references for friends who were less than ideal for a job because they asked me to.
I knew some management who gave glowing references for a crappy employee so someone else would hire him-can’t always trust references!!
Right there with ya Vc, HE almost made himself sound smart at the start of the post with all those big words (almost)…until that last bit…I mean FMD…Suitable Interview…sheesh…can almost hear that phone call now…
Tinfoil…Good Morning I’m looking into a reference for Joe blogg
Joe Blogg..(as himself mind you) Oh yes Mr Tinfoil I’ve known Joe Blogg for X amount of years..gush..gush..wonderful man…blah blah..would never hurt a fly…gag..gush..blah blah…Oh never been in trouble with law….
Tinfoil…Oh well thank you so much for that great reference, it is so good to hear that he’s been a good little boy….I’ll just let Mr Blogg know that he has the job…
D’Oh!!!
I don’t understand the whole pouring boiling water over the kids face. I am always telling everyone around me, be it my husband, dogs, sister, nephew, nieces GET AWAY THERE IS BOILING WATER RIGHT HERE. I mean, I think people know the damage it can do. Right? Obvioulsy homeboy over here didn’t. How long were these two together? Had he watched her kids before? Was he on drugs? Sometimes when I read these instances on this website I think “Wow, that guy was 19 and he just ruined his life. He is not going to see the outside world for the rest of his life. Done, finito, the end” Like really, you really had to kill a kid? That was your life calling? Shit, and now that poor little boy is dead and didn’t even get to experience life, because gangster man here took it away. I just don’t get it sometimes…
Kira the ignorance of some people used to really suprise me. But now it doesn’t.
I grew up in the Army. My father was gone 3 weeks out of 4 mostly. Then there was the deployments to Korea, Panama, Yemen and a few other places where he was gone 6 months at a time. I’m not bitching. the Army came first. We knew and understood that andI was never bitter.
I had the greates mom ever! She was mom, dad friend my whole life. BUT she was secure enough in her roles that when my dad was home he was dad and the boss. My brother and I respected that and we supported my mom and dad in that.
I grew up happy. Money was always a problem but we always got enough to eat, the house was always clean and our clothes also. We never had the most expensive things. Clothes, bikes, shoes what ever. But we were always happy.
The woman and the scum bag have major problems with themselvs. Maybe they were abused as children. Maybe they were depressed what have you. I honestly don’t care.
My parents always told me that your entire life is a series of decisions. Make the wrong one then work your ass off to correct it. If you fuck up big time then pay the price. Admidt your mistake and then pay for it. Well these 2 have made a series of wrong decisions. Both are paying for it. Sad thins it cost a beautiful little boy his life.
Worst part is both will learn nothing from it.
Mulch, it sounds like you had very wise parents who taught you about ‘consequences’ and taking responsibility for one’s actions. This is probably (after love) the most important thing we can teach our children.
If you fucking hurt a child PAIN is do to these people. I have a new idea, I would use a blowtorch and wire cutters, But I hace a new way. I would like to have some thermite placed in the mouth then LIGHT IT UP. It burns so fast that it would be instant death, saves money and is cheap to make.
Sorry guy but it’s too fast a death.
Theses scum need to feel more pain that that which they dishout. They need to have the complete feeling of helplessness and terror. They need to know they can’t do a damn thing to stop it. They need to understand that the more they scream the more it will hurt. The less they scream the more it will hurt.
They need to bed for death. THAT is all they deserve. Nothing less than that.
I do agree it is to fast. But I just get so mad at this shit I just fly off and want it done fast now today. I do have a blow torch and pliers. I can work on him for a day or 2, but then get bored. A child needs to only know love but people like this should only know what the gitmo dance is.
I agree with your assessment that this douche bag used boiling water to harm the child before slamming him into the wall. Wouldn’t someone think to use COLD water to revive someone? That’s what you always see and hear about, right?
A 19 year old would be more than capable of picking up the three year old and putting him in the shower with cold water if he was really trying to “revive” the child. The boiling water revival story is very sketchy. Props to you on pointing that out.
However, I have to disagree with your assessment that 19 year olds are too young to care for children. I am 20 and have a 2-year old nephew and 9 month old neice. I care for them by myself frequently when my sister is at work and have been since my nephew was born.
It’s not hard to care for a kid, but it DOES take patience. I’ve had many experiences with my nephew not wanting to eat when dinner is served. What I always do is put it in the fridge because I know that he’ll get hungry and want the food later. There’s no reason to beat up a kid just for not being hungry or for being a little bit picky, because they’ll always eat it eventually. There’s no reason to get that angry about a kid being a kid!
Some people, like this jerk, are just not cut out to handle kids ever. No matter if he’s 19 or 39. If you’re that type of person to cause harm to a defenseless child who’s not even a third your size then it doesn’t matter how old you are. You’re just a psycho.
I don’t really blame the mother in this, either. She’s very young herself and her boyfriend was probably great with the kids in front of her, putting up a big act to impress her. She lost her baby angel and for that, I feel sorry for her.
I can’t wait for this jerk to go to prison because child killers are the bottom of the bottom in prison. I hope he get’s the death penalty. Either way, hopefully, he’ll get what he deserves soon enough.
I guess I did use too broad a brush when I painted all 19-year-olds as lousy child care providers. I think your assessment of the situation is a lot more accurate. Obviously I was more than a little ticked off about what Alicea did to little Jariel, and I was in slash and burn mode when I wrote the article. A couple of people called me on that, and you guys were right to do it. I want to encourage people to challenge me when they think I screwed up – I’m pretty sure that I’m not perfect and I don’t think I know everything about everything.
At least you are a good sport about it, Max. You could act like a total choad who can’t handle being challenged/corrected.
Even at the age of fourteen, I would babysit my two year old niece–often. And I really do believe that when you are young, caring for children can be over-whelming, frustrating, and scary. And I did become a mom the first time at the age of 19. But, no matter how much any child that was ever in my care when I was young would act up, never once did I dream of harming any of them in any way, shape, or form. It takes someone really special (not hallmark card special, electro-shock therapy special) to burn a baby with boiling hot water and smack them against a wall knocking them unconscious. And yes, I believe that’s the order it went in as well. I think he dumped the water on the baby, the baby was screaming, and to get him to stop, he knocked him against the wall. This is something that this bitch would have done in his 30′s, 40′s, whenever. He’s just sick–and unfortunately his attorney’s are probably going to play the age card to get him a better deal when he goes to court. I can only hope it doesn’t work.
Max. It is ok to be in the slash and burn mode. I get the same way as you can see by most of my post. I have a just under 2 year old son that stays with his mom, So when I see things like this here I get crazy filled with rage. And when I hear local news that involve kids I hold my breath, I know she would never put him in harms way but we cant control enerything. So when your slashing tool gets dull or you need gas to burn just call me I will put a laser eadge on your slashing tool and give more gas to use to burn. I understand better than most.
i feel ill. truly seriously ill. just saw the pictures of this beautiful little boy on his mom’s myspace. disturbed that her profile says she’s ‘triste’ (sad) with a little unhappy face. no kidding dumb bitch.
of course the murdered is jonathan alicea. nobody is saying it isn’t. but who in their right mind leaves their children with a 19 year old man who is nothing more than a stranger to them? i don’t care how long he’s ‘been around’ but you can’t fucking tell me he hasn’t demonstrated any violent tendencies before, that he just suddenly decided to be evil and pour boiling water on a boy’s face for wetting his pants or not doing things the way you want them to be done. maybe the poor boy didn’t want hot dogs and eggs as his meal, i sure as hell wouldn’t.
i can only pray for him to get some sort of justice in prison. and this mom, well, she had better learn her lesson. i think she has some sort of resposibility for this, at the very least HORRIBLY poor judgment. this poor 6 year old boy, the brother, is gonna be scarred for life. imagine what he saw? this will never, ever leave his memory.
another dumb broad who should have never had a child. You know, I feel for these mom’s who cannot afford daycare, but I think the deeper issue is this: If you cannot afford your child, why do you have it? I am not talking abortion, I’m talking preventative measures to ensure you don’t get pregnant. I am a 23 yr full time college student and I am employed full time as well. I know I have a lot on my plate and even though my boyfriend and I have been together for 5 years and are talking marriage, I will NOT have a baby until I am done with school and have the means FINANCIALLY to care for it. Even if you decide to have the kid and can’t afford it(dum idea), then you will have to find a way to make it happen like so many other mothers do. Not for nothing, but most of these chicks who let whoever watch their kids because they “can’t afford childcare” are the same bitches you see out at the club every saturday spending $100 on drinks, wearing a brand new outfit and shoes and just got their nails, toes and hair done. Too many of these chicks are too selfish for children, plain and simple.
RIP Jariel- you didn’t even have a chance…
I am 21 and have a 13 month old son. I was on birth control when I got pregnant. Stuff like that happens. In this case you cant say that the mother should never have had her child.
I don’t want to get into a huge debate about this, but I do have an observation to make:
While it does seem clear that male babysitters are far more likely to end up on the news for committing a crime than female babysitters, they are, after all, just babysitters.
When I read about an actual parent hurting or killing their OWN biological child, however, I see women implicated far more often than men.
GIVE HIM TO ME. I’LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
How? What would you do? Please go deep in to the detials. I’ll critic and grade you.
I had a few things in mind for this scumbag but I’ll defer to another.
Well.. by the looks of this idiot, he plucks his eyebrows and has the feminine touch down so I’m sure he’s going to make a great bitch to some large and in charge inmate. Good Riddance trash!! One less idiot in society.
i knew this kid he went to the same school with me
I am a mother of a 13 month old, and while I am still with the babys father, we are not married. I have vowed to myself, that if anything ever happens and I turn out to be a single mom, I will not date anyone until my little boy is much much older. There are too many stories of moms boyfriend killing or abusing the children, whether mom is there or not. This will absolutely never fly in my house. I would slaughter that man sooo fast.
Nobody ever wants to be the one to say what is usually the truth: men who have no emotional interest in a baby or young child should not be used as caregivers for those kids. For every one guy who is actually not a perverse loser, there are about 100 who are. I don’t like those odds when my children are what’s at stake.
Wow… I know where this sentiment is coming from and all, but more mothers kill and/or assault their children than men. While the sick male loser rate is actually more like 1 in 10,184,000 men(yes, reported sexual assaults of infants by men is actually that low or that disgustingly high, given our population), postpartum depression occurs in 70 to 80% of all women, and Postpartum Psychosis occurs in 1 out of 500 to 1000 new mothers, or 1 in 544,000 people in the United States.
Child care should be undertaken by responsible, sane adults and when possible, by a community that helps oversee both the well being of the primary care givers and the child.
Its so sad i went to high school with this man and was in sich a state of shock sat next to him in spanish class everyday and to think he killed a two year old baby, i have a two year old now i would never let a kid bbysit a kid im a kid rasing a kid its hard enough but to let another thats just insane
HERE SHE IS WITH A NEW BABY I THINK
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