UPDATE: Diego Pillco
DURING GUILTY PLEA, ACTRESS’S KILLER CHANGES STORY TO ROBBERY
excerpts from an article by Anemona Hartocollis – The New York Times
His original confession had the ring of truth: He was an illegal immigrant working on a renovation job in a Greenwich Village building when the imperious woman upstairs confronted him over construction noise.
They argued. She scratched him. Panicked that she would call the police and that he would be deported, he punched her and pushed her to the floor. Mistakenly thinking he had killed her, he hanged her from the shower rod of her bathroom, in a staged suicide.
But in a courtroom on Thursday, the construction worker, Diego Pillco, 20, told a very different story of how he killed the woman, Adrienne Shelly, a filmmaker, on Nov. 1, 2006. Ms. Shelly, who was 40 and the mother of a 3-year-old daughter, had just finished a film, “Waitress,” which opened to warm reviews after her death.
Mr. Pillco, a short, boyish-looking man, speaking softly through a Spanish translator, told a judge in State Supreme Court in Manhattan that the argument had not been over noise, but over a robbery.
He told the judge that Ms. Shelly had caught him stealing money from her purse after he had slipped into the apartment at 15 Abingdon Square that she used as an office.
When she picked up the phone to call the police, he said, he grabbed it and covered her mouth as she started to scream.
“When she fell to the floor I saw a sheet and decided to choke her, and that’s what happened,” Mr. Pillco said.
The judge, Carol Berkman, prodded him: “And you tied a sheet around her neck and strung her up?”
“Yes,” Mr. Pillco replied, “and I made it look as if she committed suicide on her own.”
It sounded like a straightforward confession to murder, which could have brought Mr. Pillco a sentence of 25 years to life in prison, if he had been convicted by a jury.
Instead, Mr. Pillco pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, first-degree manslaughter, and was promised a fixed sentence of 25 years in a deal negotiated with the Manhattan district attorney.
It was a hard choice dictated by the existence of the first confession, according to an official in the district attorney’s office, who was not authorized to speak on the matter and spoke on the condition of anonymity.
If he had gone to trial, the official said, Mr. Pillco probably would have stuck by his original story, which might have convinced a jury that Ms. Shelly’s death was merely reckless, even though the prosecution would have argued otherwise.
In that case, if convicted he could have received a maximum sentence of 15 years. It appeared that the defense may have feared the opposite outcome, that Mr. Pillco would be convicted of murder and sentenced to life. Mr. Pillco’s lawyer, Thomas Klein, of the Legal Aid Society, declined to comment on his strategy.
Ms. Shelly’s husband, Andy Ostroy, her stepdaughter and other relatives sat quietly in the courtroom during the hearing and declined to comment afterward.
But their grim faces conveyed what the judge said out loud: that their assent had been given reluctantly. “Well, I’m not going to ask whether they’re happy with this,” Justice Berkman said, after the lead prosecutor, Peter Casolaro, assured her that the family had agreed to the plea.
There was little about Mr. Pillco’s first confession that added up, according to prosecutors. He told detectives five days after the
killing that Ms. Shelly had confronted him in the apartment where he was working. The floor of that apartment was covered in gypsum dust, the prosecutor said, yet Ms. Shelly’s shoes, socks and the hems of her pants were clean.
Rather, it was Mr. Pillco’s shoeprints, traced in construction dust on the toilet and the rim of the bathtub where Ms. Shelly’s husband found her hanging, that gave him away.
Mr. Pillco, an illegal immigrant from Ecuador, had come to the United States 8 to 10 months before the murder, the official said.
Ms. Shelly, who was born in Queens as Adrienne Levine, had just finished “Waitress,” a film about an unhappily married, pregnant waitress who finds joy in baking pies (and having an affair) that she wrote, directed and appeared in. The film was later shown at the Sundance Film Festival and then went into wider release.
Ms. Shelly was best known for her roles in Hal Hartley’s dark comedies “The Unbelievable Truth” and “Trust.” She also appeared in more than two dozen Off Broadway plays and in television shows.
In court on Thursday, after Justice Berkman asked, “What happened?” Mr. Pillco gave this account.
He had been returning from lunch in the basement of the building when he saw Ms. Shelly in an elevator. “The lady was coming up in the elevator,” he said. “So when I saw her, I decided to rob her.”
He waited on an upstairs landing and watched her go into her apartment. She left the door open, he said, and he slipped in, took her purse, and removed money; he did not say how much.
After describing the fight for the phone and the struggle that ensued, he stopped his recitation. After a conversation with his lawyer, he added one last sentence. Mr. Pillco’s final words to the court were, “I just want to ask forgiveness to her family.”
The judge replied, “I doubt that you will get that, sir.”
On March 14th, 2008, Diego Pillco was sentenced to 25 years in prison. Andrew Ostroy, the husband of the late actress and filmmaker Adrienne Shelly, gave Pillco hell at his sentencing hearing, especially when he spoke about the damage done to the couple’s young daughter Sophie:
“You sentenced that little girl to a lifetime of anguish and sadness and questions and feelings of what could’ve been.”
“No sentence would be enough for you.”
“(I am) haunted by the image of you walking this earth, a free man 23 ½ years from now, as a man with much of his life still left to live.” (The 16 months that Pillco has spent in jail waiting to go to trial is considered time served.)
“I want you to suffer like she suffered, the same fear she felt when she realized she was about to die.”
Yes sir, Mr. Ostroy, we couldn’t agree with you more. And I’m sure I couldn’t improve on his words no matter how talented I was or how hard I tried. All the pain and sadness a man can feel over the loss of the love of his life, wrapped up in less than 75 words.
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I can’t believe he will get out of prison…..
Just another scumbag illegal alien who should never have been here in the first place. How’s that open border shit holding up for everyone now that the entire jail population of Mexico and South America has arrived in the U.S.?
By refusing to take action over our open borders, “our” government allows crimes like this to continue and sends an indirect message: we the citizens do not count. The govt for its own reasons wants living in this country an undereducated, criminal class who refuses to assimilate and is steadily eroding our quality of life. We citizens are expendable. We are collateral damage.
ur dead right E this system has become and is a fuckin joke,its all bout that sugar coated word for bribes,lobbyin.as long as its bout the cash,they couldnt give 2 shits bout us. here in austin we r fuckin flooded with em.
Hey Bo, I did hear Austin was bad, and like I say the Harbor Gateway has changed, not for the good. Thanks for yr support, and I have the feeling you and I may be the minority on this :-) We’ll see, as mom used to say.
Bo, I agree that this system can be a fucking joke but I must say (even though it didn’t apply to this POS) that I am happy with the fact that life means life in the US. Life doesn’t mean 12 years if you are good in prison. I am trying to turn a new leaf and finding the good in everything and if this is it, well than this is it.
I also agree with E in that this piece would be a criminal no matter where he came from.
Aw comon guys – I’m not saying we should allow anyone who feels like it to cross over into this country, but to condemn a whole group of people for the actions of a very small minority is really messed up. Some of you all sound like clones of Bill O’Reilly for God’s sake. A good rule of thumb is if my thinking starts sounding like O’Reilly’s rants, it’s time to take step back and reconsider things.
Most Immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are law abiding for one simple reason – they don’t want to get sent back to their old countries. Would you want to lose out on free 1st class health care, good pay (relatively), great government benefits, etc, etc…? Alot of these folks are sending home money to support their families, where American dollars are as good as gold.
The bottom line is this: no matter where they come from, people are the same all over. The largest chunk of the population is honest and hard working. It’s always a small minority of people who engage in the vast majority of criminal activity.
Sure we have scumbags like Diego here, and the Mexican Mafia, and MS13, but it’s no bigger a problem that Larry Harris, Michelle Kehoe, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Mafia, the Gangster Disciples or the Latin Kings. It’s all just the same old shit with a different name.
Jesus i agree with Max on this don’t use this murder to spew out anti immigration rhetoric
Max, I have to disagree with you on this. Yes, I do have a problem with illegal aliens as a group, even tho I’ve met individuals I’ve liked (nod to Princess Taylor Swift), but not strictly because some of them are murderers, rapists, drunk drivers, child molesters. Of course citizens break the law as well. (One could say, why add to that problem, by letting in more people to feed and maintain in our jails, who shouldn’t be here in the first place).
I have lived in the Harbor Area of California for 9 years and I work in health care. Many, many illegal aliens live in the area and more arrive every year. The quality of life is deteriorating, crime is rising, both violent and broken-window style crime. I believe there’s a connection. Of course there will always be problem causers and trouble makers but increasingly the perps here are people who don’t speak English or have a social security number.
Max, please don’t say most illegal immigrants are law abiding! Don’t you see the contradiction there? If they’re in the country illegally, even though they may not jaywalk or hold up liquor stores, then they’re breaking the law.
And, you state, “they don’t want to get sent back to their old countries.” That’s just it — they don’t get sent back! Even when they break the laws here! The news is full of stories about gang members who murder, are deported, and come back; or, who aren’t deported in the first place; or “law abiding” illegal immigrants who are dropped off near the border and come back. I don’t think deportation is a deterrant, because there’s hardly any!
Re/the argument that they’re working to support their families, whatever their reason is, their behavior is still illegal. I don’t want someone breaking into my house, taking my money, and sending it off to South America or wherever, even if they do scrub my toilet for me.
I don’t like helping support people who are breaking the law by being here, won’t learn the language, won’t assimilate (to be fair, America doesn’t put enough pressure on them to do so), show a low regard for education, and generally create a drain.
All of you probably know exceptions to the above, and I do too. Again I’m speaking in generalities. I think focusing on the big picture is important.
I’m aware that if fewer illegals are doing manual work, prices for some goods or services may rise. I’d be willing to pay that price.
A few years ago the illegal aliens I think in Southern California only went on “strike” for a day. It was wonderful. I listen to talk radio all day and that day heard stories about less traffic, and in the ER at the facility where I work, English speaking people needing emergent medical care could actually see a doctor within a reasonable amount of time.
Regarding Bill O’Reilly, I don’t watch him regularly, but, I have heard him on occasion expressing sympathetic views toward illegals, that they’re not hurting anyone, just supporting their families, etc. So I DON’T think I sound like his clone . . . just based on what I’ve heard of him.
And yes, I think corporations who hire illegals should face pressure. They’re contributing to the problem.
To That-guy — I assume your comment means my rhetoric is “Intolerant, vaguely racist.” I’m not sure, because your language was, well, vague. Are you saying I’m not allowed to criticize people who are breaking the law, simply because they’re not of my race?
That’s it.
E,
While my comment included you, it was not directed exclusively at you alone; it was meant as a purposely vague critic of the thinking that the majority of posters on this page seem to be operating under. I kept it vague specifically because i did not want to get into a heated discussion about something i don’t think has anything to do with the article in question, whilst still making my position on the matter clear.
In short (short because entire books have been written on this subject), I find it intolerant because it is a core belief of mine that it is easier to judge than to understand, and vaguely racist because i don’t find any of the comments specifically racist, only vaguely. Does that make sense? Perhaps if i elaborate. It seems to me (and perhaps I am the one jumping to conclusions in regard to your comments) that whenever the subject of illegal immigration is brought up, it is almost always, to a high exclusionary factor, a person of northern european descent speaking about someone of other descent. Very little is ever spoken of illegal canadian immigration, illegal european immigration or any other illegal immigration from traditionally ‘white’ and ‘western’ countries. While i can understand the argument that the scale of the problem is not as great as from poorer, ‘browner’ countries, i don’t think this is the primary motivation for the objections heard. After all, since when have you heard of a “fence jumping illegal alien” from Norway? Or China? I realize this quote is not your own, but it serves to illustrate the thinking i find inherent in the majority of arguments on this subject. It seems to me that the only time you hear this complaint is when the person comes from a country that is not western in culture and white in skin tone. Illegal immigration is just that, illegal. But immigration (i speak exclusively of the U.S.A) has been happening since the new world was first colonized. People have been arriving here over and over again, through ellis island and not, through proper customs and not, registered and not, as far back as you wish to look. And through each period there has always been the ‘evil’, ‘corrupting’, and ‘sub-human’ race / culture that was destroying america. Each time, once things settled down, everyone forgot, and found a new immigrant to hate. The only unifying factor in all of these immigration protestations has been that the ‘evil race’ was always of a non-protestant / non-western culture, and or non-european race.
Gah…that’s a wall of text right there i tell you what. If you want to continue the discussion, feel free, but i think i (barely) made my point and don’t wish to further test the limits of the posting program.
That-Guy, You make some valid points, and no, we shouldn’t take up space discussing a non-article topic. We could continue on Facebook? I will try (promise) to keep this brief.
Yes: Most comments, in America, about illegal immigration, mine included, do relate to a country that is not western in culture (I assume you mean “western European”) and white in skin tone.
You admit it’s because of the numbers. Okay. We agree so far.
Yes: Both kinds of immigration have always happened and will continue indefinitely. (So will murder.)
Yes: Racism often fuels the debate. On that subject, interesting info exists on illegal immigrant policies outside the U.S. I can’t find one comprehensive source but there are good articles in the AZ Daily Star and San Bernardino County Sun, among others. Note tho that the articles are a couple years old.
I think, where you and I differ is, whether racism alone, or racism mostly, causes these complaints. I’ve re-read your post and what I “get” is, you believe that racism, often in disguise, is the culprit.
You do admit that you’re just making assumptions. Fair enough. But for a sec think about what other reasons there could be, besides racism. Many, many, other factors come into it. To be brief I will just say “quality of life” and “safety.” I could elaborate, and give personal examples; again, there’s always Facebook. Or go to http://www.fairus.org, “Immigration Issues” page, and scroll down.
One last thing. In the first sentence of your 2nd paragraph, you say, “I find ‘it’ intolerant.” By “it,” you mean, “rhetoric” (comments) about i. immigration? Again I must disagree. Complaints/comments and intolerance are not the same thing.
Thanks for being courteous and if we don’t discuss this again, have a good Christmas.
Whew, that went better than i’d hoped. I too thank you for being civil. It is sooo nice to have a discussion without it devolving into name-calling and childish tantrums. In these polarizing times it is also very nice to find someone actually willing to discuss the issue, rather than using the situation as an excuse to fling their favored form of rhetoric around (left, right, center, up, down, purple, ect).
facebook account is sohjinn. if there are multiple hits, just pick the guy named Joel.
First off, I should have been clearer that I wasn’t speaking of the four of you folks exclusively. That was my bad. My point was I get nervous when I see blanket condemnations of any one group of people, no matter who they are. That’s not necessarily a racist thing, and I wasn’t calling anyone a racist in my comment. You’re absolutely right, I was pretty vague about what I meant, and that always leads to misunderstandings and hurt feelings. I wasn’t condemning your point of view, or anyone else’s. I was just offering up a different one.
Sorry if I came across as a scolding parent. I consider you one of our more valuable members, and I don’t want you to think I was trying to get you to toe the company line. I encourage people to speak up is they have different point of view, and I appreciate the fact that you kept your reply respectful and to the point. Too many times things like this will get personal right off the bat. PYSIH needs more free thinkers like you – if only to keep my own huge ego in check—LOL.
gee i hope my bike and big butt lovin ass is valued to,WAH ,WAH{as i fake tears],lol. if i had it my way max,all those gangs u mentioned would be members or supporters of B.A.C.A.. u rock dude.
Wow, best comment I’ve read here in a while. Political correctness is the problem here. Most people shy away and avoid making comments about any person of color or sexual orientation, etc. because they don’t want to be called a racist or homophobic, etc. Even when they speak the truth. As you did. It just goes to show that if you present a logical intelligent angle for your views then you get your point across while dodging the flak from the p.c. loonies sharing air with us. Well done sir.
My tactic is just reverse the shit on them. If Americans were illegally swarming into Mexico and killing their citizens do you think that that a spanish ‘people you see in hell forum’ would have them accusing each other of racism, etc., in the comment section behind the cloak of political correctness? Hell No! Wake up America, this ain’t how your ancestors who built this great country envisioned their offspring becoming. Call it how you see it and don’t take no bullshit from anybody. Free your mind. Don’t censor rational thought. Don’t cower from political correctness’ looming shadow. Face it with the light of logic and power.
I love USA.
But the problem with this argument Eddy is that it’s foundation is based on falsehoods and misconceptions. Immigrants, illegal and otherwise, are not responsible for the vast majority of crime in this country, or even in the border states. they are a small percentage of the population, for one thing. Part of the problem is the career criminals, the drug dealers and gangsters, get lumped in with all the Jose Schmo’s who are here to just make a living. Those scumbags are going to be here even if we built the Great Wall of China across our boarders.
Don’t misunderstand me – we need better controls at the borders. But I’m hearing a lot of complaining about being inconvenienced mixed in with the concern about crime, and I’m thinking the real problem might be good old human nature – when people are frustrated and angry because their daily lives have become extra stressful all of a sudden, they look for somebody to blame. Along come the Anti-Immigration Lobby telling you it’s all those illegals. And the thing is, they sound reasonable – in some cases they’re even right.
But the thing is, these are not illegals, or Chicanos, or Asians, or Ecuadorans – these are people. Fuck PC – I’ve never been PC a day in my life. What it is is simple human decency and common sense. You don’t wrap up an entire group of people in the same “blanket” because of the actions of a few individuals. I don’t know about anyone else, but the day we start making decisions in this country based on that formula is the day I start looking for a nice revolutionary organization to join. The whole idea is so un-American that it boggles the mind.
BTW, it’s not important how the Mexican Government would treat Americans who did the same thing – I’m not Mexican and this isn’t Mexico. This is the United States of America, and we’re better than that.
I just thank God he isn’t black. lol…. I’m exhausted from going back and forth with the name calling and cuss words with the dumbass, racist, indred hillbillies that comment on youtube! Shew! I’m beat…. but, I can’t help it. I’m the mother of two bi-racial boys and seeing people, still in this day and age filled with such hate is so depressing, I have to comment. My boys are beautiful people. Loving souls. (Some) white people are such hypocrites, wanting to look down on, and judge and entire race by individuals actions… but then get mad and indignant when they feel certain black people are hating on them for what (some) whites did years ago with the slave owning….WTF? You can’t hold ALL black people up next to the maggots like Lamaricus Davidson, Tommy Poindexter, OJ, so on and so on… It’s not like the white race hasn’t produced some real losers!…Like good ol’ Charlie, Jeff’s stupid flesh eating ass, John Wayne Gacy, Gary Ridgeway, Dennis Rader, Teddy’s sick, corspe screwin’ ass, David Berkowitz. Need I go on? (Shudder) Ew! I’d hate to think that other ethnicities, or people from other countries might be looking at our ‘white’ boys like they’re all like THAT!
….sorry, I know that was WAY off topic. Prejudice in general just breaks my heart… just had to get that off my chest. Thank you, I feel better, and it won’t happen again. lol (wink) =)
again,dewrag off to u steph-ann as i hold up a coors lite this time,and dewrag to steph-ann.and ur damn right,we do have white shitstains as well.
lol….Thanks Bo, and again….You are the man! But, I’d rather a Bud Light, if ya got one. ;)
im usually a bush lite or coors lite dude as its all i can afford when i do drnk,lol,how ever i will do bud lite if its free.lol. i may have a few this weekend,any 1 who wants to keep in touch can find me on face book.look for a bald dude with fuzz on the face and shades,lol,lookin real kicked back.
Agreed. I am disturbed that the murderer will eventually be released from jail. But I can’t place blame for the murder on anyone but the murderer.
I had forgotten about this story. Thanks for the update. F U Illegal Alien M F! All prisoners at his new home should be informed of what Diego did and I hope that beat him good. What a tragedy that one of our citizens is murdered by a fence jumping illegal alien. Man this curls my hair. He will be 43 when he is released. Still able to live a long life.
I know that that Mrs Shelly is turning over in her grave right now. We have failed her. Justice is not served here. Justice is a plate best served cold and with a cock in your a-hole. If that was my wife I would blatantly steal something so that I would get locked up in the same jail as that mf and I would serve my own justice on his ass.
F YOU Diego! Go To HELL!
putamadre, pinchy mericon!
That’s all the spanish curse words I got. Diego you are the ultimate a hole!
Intolerant, vaguely racist immigration rhetoric aside, I believe i saw this story replicated (with a few details missing) on a Law and Order episode. How weird.
Yeah they did, which was mildly creepy. She had been an actress on a previous episode, and then they exploited her murder.
ah, yep. Here we go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Shelly
Was actually a pretty decent episode too. In a case of synchronicity, Adrienne Shelly starred in a earlier episode of Law & Order….
I don’t think all illeagles are bad most just want work. I hire some of them from time to time to work on my yard because I’m too lazy to do it myself. They worl good and fast.Once I bought a bunch of them pizza for lunch.
this is part of my prob with them,our people here r scratchin for jobs,and poeple here,not just u.r hireing them instead of our own people.
Well they are always outside of Home Depot so it’ easy to hire a few when I need a job done fast. I see your point but I just wanted my yard cleaned.
to me, the detail about him being an illegal immigrant was relevant to the case b/c i was wondering if it would change his sentencing, but personally did not connect it with the crime itself… would have been just as awful a crime had he been a patriotic American. i don’t think the victim’s family gives a rat’s ass about what passport he holds.
Well said.
I’m sure the family doesn’t care about the passport, either. I was talking about the big picture.
I don’t like illegal immigration, but I don’t think it’s the big picture here. I think there’s a big picture, but I don’t think that him being an illegal immigrant actual caused this crime. Him being a criminal and a soulless bastard is what led to this crime.
To specifics, I think legal immigration should be streamlined, codified as an amendment to our Constitution and fiercely defended as the most valuable title our Republic can bestow. Citizenship isn’t a joke. It isn’t a right or even a gift. It’s a series of responsibilities and titles far more important than the titles of Pope, King and Emperor. A legal immigrant should be on the path to citizenship or granted some visitor status with a logical end in sight. An illegal immigrant should be arrested, given a trial that includes as an outcome the possibility of a grant of visa or asylum as well as the possible sentence of prison time and/or deportation.
To this case specifically, this man should be executed. Not because he’s an illegal immigrant, but because he murdered someone. His aggravating crimes were, he initially lied to the police, he attempted to conceal the crime, he robbed her and he broke into her home.
I don’t care where he’s from, I just want justice.
You said it, Jason. This wad would be a criminal and soulless bastard if he’d been born here. Fuck wads are from all over . . . I just think we have enough on our plate in this country with our good ol’ American fuck wad criminal citizens.
My anger over the illegal aliens stems from the government NOT doing the job we pay them to, keeping them out and round them up and deporting them if they get in. If this guy had been deported or stopped from coming here in the first place, that little girl might still have her Mom!
This POS will be released when he is about my age now.
While he in in jail, wil he receive a free college education similair to the one I wil have to pay for my daughter to receive tha wil put her and I in debt?
Will he be granted citizenship?
Will he be free here in the USA as he has “paid his debt to society?
What rights will the 26 year old woman have who grew up with out her mother? Will she be able to sue him? Will her father be able to afford a college education for her raising her alone?
I am not against immigration, but we as a nation do not have to take scum from other counties – we grow enough of it here,
Wow, what an asshole. Why is he not being shipped back to Ecuador? We sure as hell don’t want him here!
I feel so bad for that poor woman and her family. Especially her little girl.
Ship him back and he’ll return a little older with a different name and settle in a different area.
Just goes to show how wonderful our border control is, huh?
I think I said this to either deedee or on a post, but our ‘border’ consits of lots of water and the boat people are coming in by the shit loads, a couple have sank, and the rest need to be sunk by the water police imo…they get everything for free if they get through, and it fucks me of, there is one lot that comes here (maybe I’m not allowed to say but fuck it) the sudanese (however its spelt) get $1500 a WEEK for refuge money, free rent for the rest of their life, dont pay for shit, and for me being a DSP, and getting a 1/4 of that (actually less than that a fortnight) Im starting to really really hate the ‘world’ so to speak….our government sucks big time…As much as I hate boats I would gladly go out there and sink a few myself…
Sorry not into xmas, I can’t get xmas pressies, or the traditional ham or turkey and yet I’ve been and was born here all my life, they waltz in and get it given to them on a platter, no wonder I’m pissed….
To That_Guy (I didn’t see a reply button under your last post) Yes, that did go well didn’t it! :-) I find this a pretty civilized website. Which is wonderful and rare. People disagree and express themselves in different ways but under it all there’s common ground and I think respect. It IS nice to discuss with someone civil, and thanks for saying that,and right back ‘atcha. Toodles.
as far as christmas goes,all i would want is a job [like a million other people want},maybe a few good beers,and a big butt babe on my face and ide be fine,lol. couldnt help myself.
well its like 1230 am here in austin tx,just a quick shout to say hope every 1 has a cool xmas eve and xmas day.ill be here off and on thruoghout.
i want to apologize to any 1 my comments offend.
hope every 1 has a cool xmas,im kickin back with a few beers and crankin up some acdc,black sabbath,and guns and roses,lol. to cool.
Merry Xmas bo, hope you have a great day ,listening all those bands :)….
thanks janey,most people dont know what its like not to have family
Awe….Bo, you have us! I’ll call you ‘daddy’ if ya want me to! Lmao, don’t answer that….that whole line of thought will get us in trouble! But, hopefully I made you smile. ;)
now lady if u r easily offened,im not EVEN goin there,but i appreciate ur point just the same.
el era un buen joven nose kelepaso lo conosco des ke era un nino jugava con nosotro en la eskina de la casa piensok loke hiso.es mentira yo no locreo parami el es un nino k le an destruido sun bida y tanbien sus ilusio0nes de ser algo mejor .pienso k se meres una oportunidad
u wanna put all that in english?
Sweet God! I could have sworn I push 1 for ENGLISH!!!!!!!!! rude…..
LOLOLOLOL!
i only know if enuogh spanish to get my face slapped.
hehehe…..
I should not have to push any damn buttons!
My point exactly!….LOL…it should go without saying we want ‘english’…a botton should have to be pushed only for a language OTHER then english!
I don’t really know Spanish, but this looks to be a badly spelled form of the language.
It is badly spelled Spanish. Very badly. At most I can make out something about a young boy and life being destroyed with illusion of something better and mixing or likely missing an opportunity. o_O
And all those expensive semesters of college Spanish didn’t help me here! LOL! Seems to point out something about lost illusions and without a doubt that it was either the victim, the US, the world, god, or someone other than the killer to blame-but we kind of figured that out without the translating didn’t we?
I tried the google translator and even that couldn’t tell me what it said…now that’s saying something…….lol
Yeah Janey, I tried that too on Babblefish…it translated a few bits of it, but you could tell most of it was misspelled so badly the program didn’t recognize the words. Kind of like my writing without a spellchecker.
ROFLMMFAO!!
MI PITO ES EL PITO DEL FUEGO!
That is the sum total of my Spanish. So… yah.
hahah I just translated that….(with help of course)….and I don’t get it……..lol
“My penis is the penis of fire” was a pickup line someone tried on me in Ensenada many years ago. My response was a blank stare, much like yours. ;)
Ok my blank stare just turned into ‘bug eyes’ as my translator says whistle of fire…lol…so whistle is another word for penis now?…lol
now that was original,lllolllol. hell i wish ide if thuoght of it.lolool
Kinda gives a whole new meaning when a bloke goes out and tells the mrs…’Goin out to wet the whistle dear..lol’
Don’t they make medication to cure the whole penis on fire issue? LOL that made me burst out laughing in my cubicle here! can’t really explain that one to the coworkers!
Should have told him, “A shot will clear that all up’….. =)
HOLY TACO BELL BECK,WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,lol
yea ferret theres a cure,its called a knife,as in cutting off the fire,lol
Habla Inglés o lárgate de aquí!!!!!!!!!!
again I say…snicker..lol
And just because I can…
feliz año nuevo a todos los compañeros de mí, estar a salvo y viajar con seguridad … este traductor es tan fucking cool .. lol
lolololololol,damn janey thats very cool,and peolpe say im bad,lololololol
Ship this pendejo to Hell!
I’m afraid that the reality of this case is even worse than you heard in the ‘official’ version. If you look at the bizzare story Pillco told as part of the plea-bargain, then it makes even less sense than the strange tale he trotted out in police custody. A plea-bargain is a compromise between the Prosecution and the Defence to reach some kind of an ‘acceptable’ result. It is not the truth.
This was NOT a opportunistic robbery gone bad. At the sentencing, Shelly’s husband called Pillco a ‘stalker, rapist and cold-blooded killer’. A position backed up the the NYPD officers who investigated the case. Pillco – an obsessive fan of Spanish horror flicks – killed Shelly on the Day of the Dead, the most significant date in the occult callendar. After he staged Shelly’s suicide, he erased almost every trace of forensic evidence and then calmly went back downstairs to finish his shift The first forensic investigation found nothing. It was the second – insisted on by Shelly’s husband – that found the shoeprint that led to Pillco’s arrest.
This was the cold-blooded, predmeditated murder of a celebrity by a stalker. The most ironic thing about it is, Pillco did not actually know that the person he was stalking WAS a celebrity. He stalked her as a woman and not as an award-winning actress and film-maker. She could have any woman in the city!
You know what sucks about all this…other than the result of the damaged lives in the aftermath.
it would’ve NEVER have happened if PEOPLE are paid a LIVING WAGE…when a few bucks stolen..makes a big enough difference in someone’s income that the motivation to rob becomes the reality.
IT IS A TIME TESTED TRUTH..that when people struggle to make ends meet..they WILL resort to survival…because to most its either that or prison..either is better than not having anything at all.
I am FOR LEGISLATION PROPER PAY and HEALTH FOR ALL PERSONS and the fight against poverty. Having the realistic possibility for a hopeful future FOR ALL and not just a small few must become the new REALITY otherwise…we are in for some REAL scary times..you can forget about terrorists..it will be economically homegrown poverty that you will be all scared about.
This murder would not have happened if this guy knew he could work..go get a beer after and go to a home and watch TV in peace..but obviously…he risked a a wad of cash..so he could at least have rent…if that. Janitors in France are extremely proud..because they have a living wage and free healthcare…they don’t give a crap about what anyone else thinks. You just don’t see this shit over there. THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FIRST.
As our economy gets worse…by each day, month and year..we will see more of this..because few people HAVE EVERTHING and everyone else works their fuckin asses off..with no hope in the future. Every nasty revolt in history is due to oppression and suppression. We all can judge hime and say WE would never do that..but let me tell you something..you take any wealthy upper middle class folk..they would NOT be able to deal with poverty.
This is why you had people jumping from buildings in downtown Manhattan the days following the Great Crash of 1929. Wealthy investors had no intention and could not mentally handle living in poverty. Plus there are a few jumpers these days also..you can read about in the news. (i.e. the guy who went to see a rental unit in a hi rise..and jumped off balcony while the agent stepped away) due to no ability to earn income anymore and increasing debt to sustain some kind of living ability.
It’s so easy for us to sit here..in our cozy, stable jobs or steady invested incomes and not be put in a poverty situation. Trust me…most of us..taking our money and ability to be “given” income away….we could not handle ONE WORK shift under heavy labor such as package lifting, transit work, construction work, etc.
I know people living in gated communities that would die first if they lost it all.
It’s sad to know that he will be deported upon release but there’s not anything effective to keep him from coming right back and doing it all over again.
For anyone still reading this thread I know its old but believe it or not I never knew about this case. The year this happened was a difficult year for me stress wise and I was travelling a lot. But I am still surprised because living on the WEST coast where illegal immigration and crimes are a hot topic, this story seemed to have slipped between the cracks……….
Sassy Lou, are you kidding me?? You are excusing the premeditated and vicious murder of a HUMAN BEING because your heart bleeds endlessly for someone who (as you put it) supposedly didn’t have enough to eat for dinner – your theory, not anyone elses’… and wow, I thought I had a heart for people who can’t make ends meet but you – TAKE THE CAKE.
I truly believe that even if it were YOUR own mother, sister or daughter strung up like a dirty animal by this “poor” impoverished (illegally residing/working) Piece of filth you’d still back him up with excuses. You disgust me for I AM ONE OF THOSE hardworking but barely making anything people. I’ve scrubbed toilets, I’ve wiped behinds, I’ve taken sh*t from crappy bosses and I’ve watched good things happen to mean people and bad things happen to good people and while I believe our society could use a good swift kick in the A*S and I think our Gov’t is steeped in corruption, I WILL NEVER BLAME people who do have money for my woes. Nor will I excuse another persons criminal behavior because they’ve had a tough life.
Your comment sickens me. If ever I decide to join a revolt I’ll be sure to avoid the likes of your kind. My last comment…is about people, particularly women who are alone – KEEP YOUR DOORS SHUT AND LOCKED! Many crimes can be avoided with just the turn of a lock. Though it’s pretty clear this criminal would have likely managed to commit some kind of crime anyway, had Mrs Shelley acted with caution she may have still been with us but the real blame lies with the company who hired this psychopath and I hope the lawsuit goes well for Mr. Ostroy.
Horrible crime, but if people are going to bring illegal immigration into this then they also need to bring up how ridiculously long and convoluted the process for legally immigrating is in the USA. Maybe if the US’ immigration laws weren’t pants-on-head retarded, there’d be less problems with illegal immigration.
Fix immigration laws while strengthening border security.
@Xnxnxhd, you’re an illogical person. Illegal aliens are killing Americans at alarming rates. Do you think a piece of excrement like this pig would care if he was here legally? He was stealing. He got caught. People like you make me sick. Maybe if someone close to you is personaly harmed by illegal aliens (they’re not immigrants), you’ll view things differently.
And, the Catholic Church not only protects and defends these people, but it wants blanket amnesty and wants more liars, thieves, rapists and murderers brought here to fill up their empty churches. Better think about that people!