Comments on: Diane Schuler: An Interesting Perspective

By: Tara

Tara — Sat, 19 May 2012 07:21:23 +0000

Wow….you must have done a lot of wrong evil things yourself in your lifetime. To be so judgmental to a woman who by all accounts was a great mom and human being….shows you dont even like yourself. Your shameful and hopefully karma doesnt bite you in the ass. Very small thinker to say the least.

By: cryingman

cryingman — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:07:28 +0000

WOW, just read this WHOLE thing.
Am I the first one to notice the disappearance of James C. Hartford after he was called out as being someone involved, like Daniel or Jay?
Then nothing….seems like James got a little freaked out by that accusation, which must have been to close to home, Huh Jay or Daniel?
Also, brief personal history before I comment further.
I am a 45 year old male, professional, and have been losing a battle with depression for a few years now. I drink I smoke, I am in general, a self medicated substance abuser trying to forget that everyone hates me. I have a young son who I love very much
I also can not stand pain and whatnot, complete wuss.
Not that James C seems to be coming back any more, but I will say that anyone who suggests she ingested that much alcohol, and weed, in that little of time, while driving with 5 kids in the car because of a toothache is actively trying to cover up the truth and distract as much as possible from the truth. That is so far outside of the realm of possibility that for anyone to even suggest is complete joke.
I am like the biggest loser ever, and I am a wuss, but never in my life have I thought “gee, my neck really hurts and I am gonna be in the car for a few hours with my kid, DRIVING, I think I’ll try chugging Vodka nonstop till I’m puking by the side of the road, while blazing a doob….”

Never happened and will never happen.
Alcohol really does not make pain go away, if it did I would be dead right now as I would be drinking even more than I do now, because I am in constant pain from car accident and stuff that no one cares about, point being I am an admitted (to you folks) self medication substance abuser, and STILL the “toothache” defense is a complete joke.

Now let me share some other darker information about myself….
and see if there are any correlaries that can be seen between my tales and DS’s behavior that morning.
At least twice in the last year I have had what may be classified as breakdowns. Not sure cause I don’t see enough doctors, but anyway.
These two instances were both precipitated by emotional events, with MY SPOUSE. In both instances, I was at a loss for how to cope with what had become of my life and the feeling that everything was so screwed up that living was useless.
BOTH times I was simply desperate to turn my brain off so I could stop suffering. BOTH TIMES I turned to alcohol (and weed, but the alcohol was my primary weapon of choice)
Both times I was drinking with a purpose. Not enjoying a few beers with friends……I am talking slamming as fast as I can, the strongest beer I can find and like, until i go totally off the deep end and I wake up the next day. Mission accomplished, brain turned off.
I often wonder if I am in fact trying to get drunk enough so I can actually hurt myself, because I know otherwise I am too much of a wuss to do that.
So lets see.
I have experienced personal events that have put me into a mental state of complete psychotic breakdown, where I have turned to alcohol in an unusual fashion even for me.
I drink as fast as possible to pass out. I don’t want help, nobody can talk to me.
Ahhhh this is taking to long, FUZZY and friends are completely correct.
Something set her off, to the point where she turned to alcohol and weed in an attempt to self medicate.
Based on the toxicology reports that we can all read, she was drinking with a purpose.
Was the purpose to forget, or to prepare, we will likely never know.
BUT she was drinking with a purpose.
TRUST me when I say that when in the midst of your world falling apart, suffering from depression, self medicating, etc etc etc, that is when you do things like this.
I am not thinking rationally, in fact the complete opposite.
As I get drunker in my effort to shut down, the depression deepens and sanity goes out the door.
THAT is where she was that morning.
Something pushed her……….something that to at least her, at that time was totally devastating and unsurvivable.
And that is when logic starts not applying, all bets are off.
Too many pieces of an affair are obvious.
Lying about whereabouts, racing to get to camp before they do when you were supposed to be there the day before, lying till the truth (EZpass records) can no longer be denied.
Separate cars, I’ll take the dog you take the 5 kids, and don’t think I’m stopping at Mcdonalds with you either.
No reports of a new girlfriend as far as I can see, so that leaves what???
Danny and Jay walking around hand in hand………
Like there is something else there besides support.
hmm, that sounds a lot like some information that might devastate a person. To the point of doing things outside even her norm.
Your husband is cheating on you with your sister inlaw.
Everyone’s family is ruined in that case.
I think this would precede my third psychotic breakdown binge episode if I learned something like that.
And I would think that would be a good reason EVERYONE linked on that side is not telling all the truth.
it is ALL just too embarrassing.
If you would lie to cover up an affair, or have one to start, seems logical that you would lie to cover up any “bad results” of your affair.
Like your wife flipping out and killing your whole family and another to boot because she caught you cheating with sister in-law.
It just really all adds up to well……

By: Mike Jr.

Mike Jr. — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:03:34 +0000

Thank You for your support.

By: Mysticdruid

Mysticdruid — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:20:57 +0000

I just read The Taconic Tragedy A Son’s Seach for the Truth by Jeanne Bastardi. It was a very telling book. There were things in there about the lack of 911 calls by the Schuler and Hance families and more that I did not realize. After reading it, I truely believe that the scenero that has been laid out here on this website is as accuate depiction of the crime that we are going to get. My Heart breaks for Mike Jr. and his family. To have to deal with what you have it almost too much. I pray that you find the answers that you seek and that you and your family can find peace. DS methodically by her drinking and getting high murdered 7 innocent people. The fact that her useless husband has not even apologized or even shown any sympathy for any of the victims and even his wife tells loads about the person he is. The fact that her brothers children all died and they have a memorial site set up for them and they didn’t even include the other girl (Erin) is a travesty in itself. It was like she was a piece of trash thrown aside never to be remembered. I cannot believe that this so called husband is not even crying for them is unbelievable to me. All the people on this site even the ones on the DS side have expressed more sympathy for the victims that he has. I do not know how he can live with himself. How can a man father two children and not want them. This is beyond belief. I think he might have been stoned or drunk too and that is why no one called him because they knew that he was useless. I know a lot of what I have written here has already been expressed, but I wanted to say it, as my heart is crying for the children and the innocent loss of life for all those involved. One day the truth will come out.

By: beach glass

beach glass — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:31:33 +0000

AWESOME article!!!!! I have wondered about suicide as a reason for the accident.

Did not know about the man from Oyster Bay—maybe she was having an affair– could be.
One thing I have heard is that Danny didn’t get to the camp-site until Frdiay. There are EZ pass records. Could he have been somewhere else from Thursday to Friday and then left that place and went to the camp-grounds??

By: katherine lea h

katherine lea h — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:53:53 +0000

very smart. totally throws out what I hadn’t believed in the beginning anyway–a suicide. Not because I had any confidence in a person I didn’t know or thought it too unthinkably selfish and act by a mother herself but it just didn’t fit. The idea of unflinching straight line in the wrong direction does indicate a black-out as in blocking out entirely all but those sensory perceptions that would enable her to keep the car inside the lane–but my God. Couldn’t she have remembered 5 lives in back of her and had something inside that would have grabbed her by the throat even for a second, just long enough to get that van over and safely on the ground. What primal instinct of protection and survival was missing in that woman? It’s so hard not to hate her bitterly.

By: katherine

katherine — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:16:05 +0000

Story has haunted me since seeing the HBO documentary and wondering where I was on Earth when it happened years before ?? Compelling article and just some thoughts to add or note what’s already been said so well. Especially peculiar and very terrifying, too, were the descriptions given by witnesses on 9-1-1 calls and later interviews of Diane Schuler’s dead-on death-grip and precision as she made it those 1.7 miles going on the wrong direction but maintaining possession of the far left lane (her left was it?) which would mean her potential victims’ far right and certainly the less aggressive sort of travelers, possibly even timid and only adds to the malicious nature of what is already an unthinkable offense. What caused this pattern or the change from what sounded like swerving and honking and children’s heads thrown from side to side in the back seat–tragic and chilling but made more so when conveyed by that couple who rightfully mourned their lack of any action that could have changed that day for 10 times the number who lost their lives for good. So WHY the concentration that so profoundly affected most of those witnesses–if not every single one who stressed this point and used words like ‘hell-bent’ or ‘determination’ or ‘hands rock-hard on the wheel’ … and goes with the suicide and punishing aspect as well. Punishing her brother who did allow the mother back into his life, his wife for having a mother and grandmother to her beautiful daughters? and not to mention a husband who contributed more than pedestal gazing and 5 ways to say ‘perfect wife and mother’; punishing useless husband, once-abandoning her own daughter/now grandmother and I suppose the rest of the world too, Diane Schuler, because the horrors of that day and the fact that we need something/anything to make sense because we are so haunted and disturbed by the images of a spastic entrance and exit of the convenience store, a pathetic plea for attention in rocking a minivan out into traffic, and then the heart-wrenching sobs from those 1st 2 men who tried to save kids but not before a huge and bloated murderer nearly crushed their feet and temporarily–even seconds that may have counted–blocked the way to rescue pure innocence and the world deserved better on this day. Thankful for all these thoughtful people who share thoughtful ways to try to come to grips with a story that may never loosen its own.

By: WarHorse

WarHorse — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:12:19 +0000

FuzzyWuzzy – what an excellent piece. Just outstanding.

grannyvi4 – I agree with every word. Well put.

Max the Cat – thank you for publishing this. I do not understand why other websites would have a problem with this. It makes perfect sense, is all.