UPDATE: Terapon Dang Adhahn
On the morning of May 31, 2000, Terapon Dang Adhahn abducted an 11-year-old girl, S.R., while she walked to school. After duct taping her wrists, mouth, and eyes, Adhahn drove 30 minutes to a remote area on the Fort Lewis Military Base and raped S.R., vaginally, anally, and orally for approximately one hour. After dressing her, Adhahn abandoned her with her wrists and eyes still duct taped. Several hours later, military personnel found S.R. walking on a highway armed with a stick.
Sometime in 2000, 12-year-old L.T.N. began living with Adhahn in Spanaway, Washington. L.T.N. moved in with Adhahn after being introduced to him by her mother’s boyfriend when her mother began having some troubles. From October 2003 until May 2005, Terapon Dang Adhahn vaginally, anally, and orally raped L.T.N. 150 to 200 times. At age 16, L.T.N left Adhahn’s house and never returned after he raped her at gun point.
On July 4, 2007, Terapon Dang Adhahn abducted 12-year-old Zinaida Linnik from the alleyway behind her Tacoma, Washington home. One week later, Adhahn took police to her nude body near Silver Lake outside of Eatonville, Washington and indicated he left her clothes at Tiger Mountain.
An autopsy identified Linnik’s cause of death as blunt force trauma to the head and revealed she had been raped vaginally, anally, and orally. A deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) swab from Linnik’s mouth showed a positive match with Terapon Dang Adhahn DNA.
Procedural Facts
On April 7, 2008, Terapon Dang Adhahn pleaded guilty to one count of first degree aggravated murder, two counts of first degree kidnapping, five counts of first degree rape (one with a firearm enhancement), three counts of second
degree rape, and three counts of third degree child rape. His criminal history includes a 1990 conviction for first degree incest.
In 1990, Adhahn picked his stepsister up from work, brought her to his home for lunch, got drunk, and then vaginally and anally raped her. Adhahn’s eight-month-old daughter slept and cried in an adjacent bedroom while Adhahn raped his stepsister. For this conviction, Adhahn received a suspended sentence under a Special Sex Offender Sentencing Alternative (SSOSA) and completed sexual deviancy treatment.
On May 2, 2008, the trial court sentenced Adhahn to life without the possibility of parole for the aggravated murder conviction. The trial court also sentenced Adhahn to the maximum standard sentence for each of his serious violent felonies and ran each of these sentences consecutively. The trial court also ran Adhahn’s life sentence consecutive to his serious violent felony sentences. Finally, the trial court imposed concurrent sentences for the second and third degree rape convictions. In total, the trial court sentenced Adhahn to 811 months followed by a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
ADHAHN SENTENCED TO LIFE W/O PAROLE
excerpts of an article by Christine Clarridge – The Seattle Times
For months, it’s been a foregone conclusion that Terapon Adhahn would spend the rest of life in prison for the kidnapping and slaying last summer of 12-year-old Zina Linnik.
Nonetheless, the anguish and heartbreak caused by Zina’s death as well as the rape of two other girls is spilled out in a Tacoma courtroom this afternoon as a judge heard testimony before sentencing Adhahn.
Members of Zina’s family and one of the rape victims described how Adhahn took away something that can never be replaced.
“For him getting a chance to live, after everything he’s done, it’s sick,” said Anatoly Kalchik, Zina’s uncle. “He will be fed, he will be clothed and I don’t think it’s right.”
Sabrina Rasmussen, 19, who was kidnapped and raped by Adhahn in 2000, had one question.
“I know he doesn’t have to answer, [but] I would like to know why he didn’t kill me,” she said.
Because Pierce County prosecutors took the death penalty off the table last year in exchange for information about the location of Zina’s body, Pierce County Superior Court Judge Rosanne Buckner had no alternative but to sentence him to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Under state law, a conviction for aggravated first-degree murder must be punished by either death or life
in prison without the possibility of parole.
Adhahn declined to speak at his sentencing hearing.
Adhahn, 43, pleaded guilty last month to aggravated first-degree murder and rape in the Zina, who was snatched from near her Tacoma home on July 4. He also pleaded guilty to 13 additional charges of rape and kidnapping in connection to repeated assaults against two other young girls and failing to register as a sex offender.
In his exchange for his guilty pleas, Adhahn had asked only that the court lift a restraining order preventing him from having contact with his son. But Buckner today declined that request.
Zina’s slaying prompted state lawmakers to pass laws requiring the collection of DNA samples from a wider array of sex offenders, allowing authorities to publish the names of unregistered sex offenders and authorizing the broader use of GPS tracking devices by the Department of Corrections.
When Zina was kidnapped from behind her Hilltop-area home, her father heard a scream, saw a van driving off and gave police a partial license plate number that led detectives to Adhahn.
Four days after his arrest on July 8 and once prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty, Adhahn led investigators to Zina’s body, which had been dumped in rural Pierce County. She died of blunt force to the head, according to court documents.
Subsequent investigation led prosecutors to charge Adhahn with assaults on two other girls.
In one case, he was charged with seven counts of rape for repeated sexual assaults against a girl whose mother had allowed her in Adhahn’s care for several years. The girl, who now lives in Wichita, Kan., moved in with Adhahn in 2001 when she was 12 because her mother had unspecified “troubles” that made her unable to care for her.
The girl told Tacoma detectives that she was raped at least 150 to 200 times during the four years she lived with the man she called “Dad.” The attacks stopped, court documents said, only when she fled his home at 16 after he raped her at gunpoint.
Adhahn also was charged with the kidnapping and rape of an 11-year-old Gault Middle School student who was on her way to school May 31, 2000, when she was abducted by Adhahn.
He threatened her with a knife, duct-taped her hands, mouth and eyes and then drove to a remote training area in woods on the Fort Lewis base, where he repeatedly raped her before abandoning her in the woods.
Adhahn’s conviction for failing to register as a sex offender arises from a 1990 incest conviction for raping his 16-year-old half-sister when he was intoxicated.
In court documents connected to the incest case, Adhahn said he had been brutally assaulted as a child by older male relatives when he was a child in Thailand.
The Appellate Court opinion from which I culled the first part of this update was the result of an appeal by Terapon Dang Adhahn of an order by the sentencing judge, The Honorable Rosanne Buckner, barring Adhahn from any contact with any child under the age of 18, including his own children. This meant he could have no visits with them, he could not exchange mail with them, and he could not contact them by telephone.
This upset Terapon Dang Adhahn, so his lawyers filed an appeal on his behalf with the Washington State Appellate Court. Their answer was, of course, sorry, but a confessed child murderer, serial kidnapper and baby raper does not have an inherent right to be involved in the lives of his own biological children.
But what got me about Terapon Dang Adhahn’s appeal was that it showed how little remorse he had about he’d done, and how truly oblivious he is about the seriousness of his crimes.
Adhahn took the innocence from three little children, Sabrina Rasmussen, L.T.N. and his half/step-sister, when he raped them repeatedly, and stole a daughter from Valentina and Mikhail Linnik when he raped and murdered their daughter Zina. Now he complains that he can’t have access to help raise his own three children? In what reality did he think there would be any sympathy for his argument or for him.
It’s this kind of thinking that shows how twisted a child predator’s mind really is. Even now, he has no idea how morally repugnant his crimes are. To him, the law is just getting in the way of him living his life the way he wants to. WE caused him to kill Zina, because he did not want to go to prison, not because he did anything wrong when he had sex with her.
Thank God he will be locked away from our children for the rest of his life. He should have fried for what he did, but it was more important to give the Linniks back their daughter’s body. What a bastard, holding the kid’s body for ransom, so he could get a deal to save his worthless life.
Is Terapon Dang Adhahn going to Hell? 99 out of 100 PYSIH readers say he is.
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Max, the key here is that we need, as a society, to STOP worrying about the rights of these pieces of shit. Give the bastard to someone like me: he WILL tell me where the girl’s body is, no problem. I am not the police, not involved in the legal system, but I am part of mean-old society, so please, let me do my part for the community.
I hate that the lawyers told him to make up shit about abuse in his childhood. No, he wasn’t abused because he was in Thailand, and, unfortunately, male children are highly valued. Females are not, and that, Max, is why he wants to be in contact with his son, his male child, and why he thinks he has done nothing wrong with the rapes and murders he has committed, because, after all, they WERE just females.
The thinking is typical sociopathic self-centred shit that gets under my skin and makes me rage against the system. This douchebag will have a nice long life whereas we are deprived of Zina who may have become a research scientist that unlocked the cure for cancer or have been a virtuoso musician. We will never know because he robbed us of her life.
And no, it’s not an error when I state “murderS” because he is a serial offender. Look at the dates of his attacks. Zina is unlikely his only murder and there are other rape victims as most refuse to report the crime due to the hideous way the legal system would re-victimize them (in essence, raping them all over again). The gaps between the known crimes should be thoroughly investigated because I know they would be able to link him to further crimes. If I were a cop, then I would make it a project to link him to another crime JUST to get the DP back into his life.
Sorry to rant and ramble, but I really hate these cretins and I really and truly believe we need to do a better job of protecting those who cannot protect themselves from these predators.
Oh, and thank your lucky stars you don’t have the irritating anguish of living with the Canadian “justice” system.
I say we petition to have these monsters be subjected to the victims wishes or their families if the victim themselves are unable to do so..
I know if I had my way…I would definitely be causing some serious damage to all of these pedophiles.
I like that. Make him do hard labor in Siberia!
What a shame we have to feed and house this oxygen thief. Also, what Budgiegirl said. And Max, you’re right on about the fact that these types of monsters see nothing wrong with their own behavior. Child rapists should get one strike only and should be locked away forever.
this is fucking disgusting, this piece of shit should never have been offered life in prison, he should have been handed over with duct tape on his hands, feet and eyes to the victims and their families and we’ll just see what happens…..
Sorry, I was so upset there I forgot to say. For the victims and their families, I hope you can one day find peace after what has happened to you. To the family of Zina Linnik – she was a beautiful child, I’m very sorry she was stolen from you so soon..
PLEASE! OH PLEASE DEAR GOD See that this guy goes into GP in prison. Better yet wouldn’t it just be fantastic if he could be turned over to the families of the children he had raped and murdered. This is one of those that I just don’t know what to say. Just glad to see that the “child sex offender registry” is working so well. If you believe that one I have some property I’d like to sale. I got an idea instead of requiring the collection of DNA samples from these child molesters, why don’t we collect their dicks and nut sacks and shove them in their mouths. All the while shoving a variety of miscellaneous pieces of equipment up their ass!!!!
BTW How about the courage of Sabrina Rasmussen to speak out in public.
Yes, it is awesome that she found the internal strength to face the man (debatable isn’t it?) who she was sure was going to kill her, plus have those intimate and disgusting details aired in a public courtroom for any and all to hear. I always wonder about those defense lawyers that re-victimize the women (and in some cases men) on the stand, you know, by asking them if they liked it, did they get pleasure, did they agree to it and so on. I think the lawyers should share a bit of the hell for their actions. But then I’m a psychopath. :)
Shut the hell up. “Ye who judges shall then be judged” you fuckin no life. Putting smiley faces in a topic this serious.
I hope they connect him to another kidnapping/death in his area so they can try him for that and the death penalty would still apply. Prison is too good for this sludgepot.
that is the shame of civilized society… In my country Dominican Rep. we would put him out of his misery by machete & rock in the head… God I love My country… no but seriously, I would invest cigs, drugs, dirty magazines..etc just so many lifers could tickle his hole at the same time. I hear someone screaming train ride!!! choo choo!!!!!!!!!lol
Yes! I’ve seen videos of even thieves getting beaten vigilantes… luvz it :)
I remember when this case first happened. Pedo’s are the worst of the worst and this POS should have never been in the streets to begin with. However, I will say that I think life without parole is better than death in his case. They should refuse him PC and let him mix with the GP in prison. Let the other inmates know what he’s in for… now, THAT would be justice(well not really, but damn good vengeance).
I agree with the victums brother here why the hell should this asshole get to LIVE after he chose to let someone die because he could not control the sick sexual desires that he had for LITTLE GIRLS. He will be fed housed and clothed and the real kicker here is he will get free medical care. Something many americans can not afford. Yeah the guy will never see the light aof day again, But I ask you, Is this really Justice?
Ah, justice. In Eddie Murphy’s movie, Golden Child, they make the remark that the child “Justice” was slain and the world was the worse for the loss. I kind of liked that as it wrapped up the reason why the concept of justice has been so f’d up. When did we lose sight of the victims?
How much further are the lawmakers and politicians going to push the regular tax paying public before we snap? There’s a story about the serial killer Pee Wee Gaskins. He was actually fried, but not for the murders he did when he was out in society. A grieving son paid him to murder the POS that murdered his parents, a sweet elderly couple. Rudolph Tyner was on death row, but everyone knew it would be decades before he would (if ever) face punishment. The asshole didn’t get justice by anyone’s definition (except the perverse definition our legal system has), so the son hired Pee Wee to waste him. Pee Wee, who was a racist anyway, was only too glad to do the deed and succeeded. Hard to do when you consider how watched these guys were, but he did. Well, when they investigated, the whole thing came out in the open. Pee Wee got the death penalty and the son was sentenced to 25 years in prison. The jury, however, did understand where he was coming from and he got parole after having to serve 2 years six months. He shouldn’t have had to serve any time. But that’s just my opinion. The son, Tony Cimo, was pretty messed up by the whole thing and died of a prescription overdose in 2001. He never really recovered from losing his parents to that POS. He really needed help, not prison time, but the system is too busy looking after the rights of those who flout the rules of society. Where is the impetus to play by the rules?
In the words of my mother, no good deed goes unpunished.
“Adhahn took the innocence from two little girls when he raped them repeatedly, and stole a daughter from Valentina and Mikhail Linnik when he raped and murdered their daughter Zina.”
Very sad story indeed. I just wanted to point this out. He actually took the innocence from THREE little girls…..Sabrina Rasmussen, L.T.N. and his half/step-sister. I would also consider taking Zina’s innocence as well as life, but, wow…..those poor baby girls.
Max, could you possibly fix the wording on this article? I check every few days to see if it has been fixed. I feel like the sister is not seen as important (though I know she is) through this oversight.
Thank you :)
Woo hoo…..Mr. Max the Cat, over here please. Could you fix this article perty please with a cherry on top? TY :)
Sorry kathybird, I’ve been meaning to do that for days, but it kept slipping my mind. It’s finally taken care of. Thanks for keeping on me until I got it right.
Aw, thank you so much :) I don’t know why, but it was just bugging the shit out of me. You’re awesome :)
Discusting! Never ceases to amaze me the “rights” these people ask for. While killing innocent who plea for thier lives, they themself are afraid to “die” what imbecils. Do unto others…
Just shoot him…in the right place, just so he will suffer but then will die.
HEY PEOPLE DONT ANYONE HERE KNOW THE PRISON SYSTEM
WELL WHE U KILL CHILDREN OR MOLEST RAPE ECT, THAT IS NOT TOLERATED IN PRISON BY THE INMATES. HE WILL GET HIS I PROMISE ALL OF YOU. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THERE AND PEOPLE WHO GO IN AS RAPISTS OF CHILDREN ARE TERRORIZED THEMSELVES, TRUST ME HE MIGHT BE GETTING FED AND HAS A BED, BUT THAT BED IS SHARED WITH BIG BUBBA. HES GETTING HIS PROBERLY WITH A BROOM HANDLE NICE WOODEN ONE.
If only that were true… Unfortunately, child molesters/rapist/abusers wind up being in protective custody… It’s a damn shame
This is one of the worst people I’ve ever read about. Why are people like this allowed to breed? Why? I don’t have any children and I would love to, yet this piece of shit has three. They are going to be all hosed up as well. I hope not, but they probably will be. How was he able to get onto a military base? Was he in the Army? I’ve been to Ft. Lewis and just like any other military base, you have to show a military ID to get on. What about the girl’s mother who left her with him? Did she get arrested? She is just as guilty in my opinion. Our justice system is fucked up as a soup sandwich. I wish I didn’t have to pay taxes. What’s the point?
AS ONE OF HIS CHILDREN, IN RESPONSE TO mm1swusn, WE ARE NOT ALL HOSED UP AND WE ARE DOING PRETTY FINE THANK YOU. IT IS ALREADY ENOUGH THAT ALL OF THESE LITTLE GIRLS THAT WERE HIS “VICTIMS” HAVE GONE THROUGH ENOUGH, SO WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE WITH NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR LIVES MAKING IT EVEN HARDER FOR THESE GIRLS WHEN THEY GROW UP AND HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ THESE BLOGS THEMSELVE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO AND INTERROGATE THEM YOURSELVES AND MAKE THEM RELIVE WHATEVER EXPERIENCE THEY HAD. (ALSO YOU ARE MAKING IT HARD FOR MY LIFE AND MY YONGER SIBLINGS FOR WHEN WE GET OLDER AND TRY TO GET JOBS AND STUFF BECAUSE IF SOMEONE WAS TO TYPE MY LAST NAME IN AS A BACKGROUND FOR A JOB ALL OF THIS NONSENSE COMES UP…I WAS CONTENT ABOUT THE STUFF ABOUT THE TRIALS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON…IT IS ALL HORRIBLE ENOUGH…BUT HAVING TO LIVE WITH THIS IS ALREADY ENOUGH..ALL I AM SAYING IS MAKING CONTINUOUS IGNORANT BLOGS IS DOING NOTHING BUT CREATING MORE MISERY BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING NOTHING BUT RUNNUNG YOUR MOUTHS INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM) I AM NOT SAYING MY FATHER IS RIGHT FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE. I AM JUST SAYING THAT HE IS IN PRISON FOR LIFE NOW AND EVERY BIT OF HIS LIFE HAS BEEN EXPLOITED, EVEN INFORMATION ABOUT ME AND MY SIBLINGS. I FOUND OUT A WHOLE LOT OF HIS HIDDEN PAST ALL FROM THE INTERNET AND PEOPLE FINDING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO EXPLOIT HIM MORE. YES HIS CRIME WAS WRONG, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT…BUT IN THE END EVERYONE MISSES THE BIG FUCKING PICTURE. MOST OFFENDERS HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES FROM BEING OFFENDED THEMSELVES AS CHILDREN, I AM NOT SAYING THIS MAKES IT RIGHT FOR THEM TO DO THE SAME, I AM SAYING THAT THESE ISSUES NEED TO BE FOUND OUT AND HANDLED FROM CHILDHOOD INSTEAD OF IGNORING ISSUES. EVERYONE KEEP TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITHOUT DIGGING DEEP ENOUGH TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MOST OFFENDERS…INSTEAD THEY GET AHEAD OF THEMSELVES AND SOLVES NOTHING BECAUSE IT IS TOO LATE BECAUSE THE CRIMES HAVE BEEN DONE. THIS PISSES ME OFF THAT EVERYONE CAN POINT OUT EVERYONE ELSES PROBLEMS BUT THEIR OWN. IF YOU PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HELP END CRIMES SUCH AS THIS YOU NEED TO GET OFF THE HIGH HORSE AND GET DOWN AND HELP THESE PEOPLE GET TO THE ROOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS, IDENTIFY THEM EARLY HEAD ON. INSTEAD OF TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE DAMN SYSTEM DO SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE IN REALITY THAT CAN HELP THE SITUATION. INSTEAD OF CREATING ALL THESE HATE BLOGS AND HOW THE PERSON SHOULD DIE TRY TO DO SOMETHING MORE POSITIVE. I KNOW THESE FAMILIES ARE STILL ANGRY WITH MY FATHER AND I SEND THEM MY CONDOLENCES. I AM TRUELY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND WHATEVER PAIN THAT WAS CAUSED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. HOWEVER I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEED TO BE DONE BY LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. EVERYONE CAN RANT ON AND ON ABOUT MY FATHER BUT WHEN YOU GET BACK TO REALITY YOU STILL HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN VICTIMS AND MILLIONS OF OFFENDERS THAT HAVE COMMITTED THESE CRIMES. ITS A ONGOING UGLY CYCLE THAT SEEMS LIKE IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT GET PAST THE OBVIOUS FACTS THAT A PERSON HAS COMMITTED A CRIME. ITS JUST IGNORANT THAT EVERYONE LOOKS PAST IT AND I AM TIRED OF IT. ~SIGNED, FEDUP~
You’re lucky it’s 2:30 in the morning here Fedup or I’d ream you a new asshole right now, you arrogant, self righteous bitch. But wait, and I’ll show you all the things that are wrong with your post, and more importantly, with the way you think.
Yeah, keep making excuses for your piece of shit father. Sure you’re doing just fine. The thing about being sick like you are is that one of the symptoms is firm conviction that you are perfectly normal.
I don’t think she was actually trying to justify what her dad did. She does make a valid point when she states that victims of sexual abuse often become abusers themselves. I got the impression that she was merely suggesting that, in addition to holding offenders responsible for their crimes by sending them to prison for a very, very long time, we should also devote effort to doing everything we can to prevent children from becoming potential predictors by studying the statistics and knowing which red flags to look for early on.
Offenders still bear total responsibility for these kinds of crimes — having an impulse doesn’t give you the right to act on it, and no one forced him to kill those girls — but I feel that we as a society have a moral responsibility to do everything we can to try to find a way to prevent these impulses from forming in the first place. It’s possible to use this story as an example of that while still acknowledging that he’s a total piece of shit for giving in to his urges. Know what I mean?
Of course, it’s possible that I could be misinterpreting what Fedup was saying.
It’s hard to read as it is in all CAPS, but if you re-read this drivel, Fedup IS minimizing what this POS did by stating that he had “mental issues” and that no one treated him and THAT’S why he’s a murdering, raping piece of shit. It’s the same old song: he’s not to blame, society is.
“…YES HIS CRIME WAS WRONG, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT…BUT IN THE END EVERYONE MISSES THE BIG FUCKING PICTURE. MOST OFFENDERS HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES FROM BEING OFFENDED THEMSELVES AS CHILDREN,…..”
See? Same old song. He raped and murdered because he was abused as a child.
To which I say: BULLSHIT!
“…I AM NOT SAYING THIS MAKES IT RIGHT FOR THEM TO DO THE SAME,……”
Yes, yes you are. You are suggesting this as a reason for the actions, and it is nothing more than a self-serving excuse for side-stepping responsibility for actions taken.
“… I AM SAYING THAT THESE ISSUES NEED TO BE FOUND OUT AND HANDLED FROM CHILDHOOD INSTEAD OF IGNORING ISSUES…..”
So, magically we are supposed to examine each and every child to find out which ones will become murdering ass-hats and which ones won’t. Cause in case you haven’t noticed, not every abused child grows up into the kind of monster your father is.
So do tell: how are we to know? Hmmm????
Again, another self-serving statement to deflect responsibility where it lies.
“…..EVERYONE KEEP TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITHOUT DIGGING DEEP ENOUGH TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MOST OFFENDERS…INSTEAD THEY GET AHEAD OF THEMSELVES AND SOLVES NOTHING BECAUSE IT IS TOO LATE BECAUSE THE CRIMES HAVE BEEN DONE….”
Again, people are trying to solve problems but it’s too late because crimes have already been committed? Well, it just so happens that there are a lot of programs throughout the world that try to address problem children and the psychology that goes into making murdering ass-hats. However, since there are murdering ass-hats at the ages of 10, 11 and up, I’m all for throwing the baby out with the bathwater — prison and for life.
This statement is again another swipe at people being too stupid to save themselves from murderers like Terapon Dang Adhahn. Sort of saying, all your work is useless because you don’t fix the problem when you can so you deserve to die and lose loved ones.
Hey, I call them as I sees them and if you analyze this comment line by line, then the contempt is pretty evident. As I noted, this is not a hate site, but there are a lot of hate sites out there and Fedup should really try to engage someone at one of these sites.
“….. THIS PISSES ME OFF THAT EVERYONE CAN POINT OUT EVERYONE ELSES PROBLEMS BUT THEIR OWN….”
Like I need to tell anyone, but this line is self-hatred expressing itself. Fedup hates the role the father has cast for the rest of the family to play. I’m pretty sure that my problems won’t match Fedup’s — being the offspring of a murdering rapist pedo. Yes, I can imagine that it “pisses me off”.
And, in case you ever need to know that someone is spitting venom in you, then count how often they use phrases like “you people” — it is a flaming red flag.
” IF YOU PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HELP END CRIMES SUCH AS THIS YOU NEED TO GET OFF THE HIGH HORSE AND GET DOWN AND HELP THESE PEOPLE GET TO THE ROOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS, IDENTIFY THEM EARLY HEAD ON….”
Another nonsense statement. YOU PEOPLE — a category worthy of disdain. You stupid people, you full-of-shit people — it’s really just not spelled out.
Get off the high horse? Well, I never knew that there was just one, but it must be hellishly crowded on this one high horse.
Get down and help these people — again, society is to blame for the acts of the father. If we had only known what a murdering rapist pedophile he was going to be, then we could have killed him at birth. :-)
But the impetus is really on us, society, you people, not the man who did this. Nope, Fedup is pointing the way for us muddle-minded dimwits to really do something worthwhile and help shitheads like Terapon out.
“…INSTEAD OF TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE DAMN SYSTEM DO SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE IN REALITY THAT CAN HELP THE SITUATION. INSTEAD OF CREATING ALL THESE HATE BLOGS AND HOW THE PERSON SHOULD DIE TRY TO DO SOMETHING MORE POSITIVE….”
See? Again, all of our efforts, all of our discussions here, they are worthless, they are just “talking shit” because, hey, none of US have ever known heartache like Fedup, right? None of us have a clue as to the real solution. See, the family is not acknowledgeing the true crimes this man has done. The words are “Yeah, sure they’re upset, but really they don’t have any right to be. ME. My life. My rights. Yeah, all you shit-talking people should be paying for my father’s crimes. Not me and certainly not my family.”
Wrongo. Like I said earlier, acknowledge the fact that your father shit on your head as well the rest of society’s and distance yourself from this waste of space.
If Terapon killed himself, then it would be a teeny-tiny drop in the bucket in terms of the retribution his soul owes the world.
“… I KNOW THESE FAMILIES ARE STILL ANGRY WITH MY FATHER AND I SEND THEM MY CONDOLENCES. I AM TRUELY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND WHATEVER PAIN THAT WAS CAUSED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. HOWEVER ……
and it is at this point that we get back to sincere expression from Fedup. The “I know they’re angry and sorry for your loss — whatever that may be” is the obligatory statement that society expects, especially prior to the true thrust of their rant. You can tell because it is followed by …..HOWEVER
“…I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEED TO BE DONE BY LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. EVERYONE CAN RANT ON AND ON ABOUT MY FATHER BUT WHEN YOU GET BACK TO REALITY YOU STILL HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN VICTIMS AND MILLIONS OF OFFENDERS THAT HAVE COMMITTED THESE CRIMES. ITS A ONGOING UGLY CYCLE THAT SEEMS LIKE IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT GET PAST THE OBVIOUS FACTS THAT A PERSON HAS COMMITTED A CRIME. ITS JUST IGNORANT THAT EVERYONE LOOKS PAST IT AND I AM TIRED OF IT…..”
So do you get it? Essentially, Fedup is telling us, “you people” that we can “rant on and on” about this piece of shit for brains, but it’s never going to save us our our loved ones. We’re just too stuck on the obvious, too stupid to “rescue” ourselves from the likes of Terapon. And how are we poor stupid dweebs to make things better? Why, by embracing turds like Terapon and helping him overcome his mental illness. After all, there is no such thing as personal responsibility anymore. Nope. I can become a murdering ass-hat too. I was abused so heck, why not?
Guess I can’t really because I do know thee difference between right and wrong. I do know that there are consequences to any action I may take and that I always have a choice.
SEE FEDUP!! Your ol’man had a choice and he made the WRONG ONE. Suck it up and move on. Go pick a good debating partner on one of the true hate sites. Let us know when you’ve made a friend.
As for me, I’M FED UP WITH PIECES OF SHIT AND THEIR RELATIVES THINKING THEY CAN COME ON AND TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES!!!!
Take your angst and platitudes to your psychologist. He/she will tell you that your anger is best directed at the person who created your current situation — your father.
If you distance yourself from his actions, then people are not likely to associate you with him. However, spend your time online defending him and making excuses for him, and you are no better than him.
Max, I got to tell you that the most frustrating thing (lately) for me has been tracking what friends and family members tout about as the gospel from their lips. It makes me want to rub their face in the doo-doo their “loved” ones have done.
And I have to say, kudos to you, because I don’t think I could be civil or nice in your shoes — you get it all day and all night over many many stories. Hats off to you! ;)
I couldn’t agree more on the caps thing. I hate it when people feel the need to type scream. As if the things they say need to be HUGE because they are more important than the things anyone else has to say. It’s incredibly frustrating.
Budgiegirl, thank you for the translation of FEDUP’s post. I’m also a follower of the Anti-CAPS brigade. If you really have something to say, why write it in a way that is really difficult to read? And as for your comments, from where I’m standing they hit their mark well and true.
Budgie:
Yeah, I read the post in the middle of the night while exhausted and, to be honest, I skimmed over a lot of it (all-caps is difficult to focus on when you’re half-awake). Upon re-reading, I get a far more negative impression.
The problem with her post is that the actual statements about abuse and whatnot are worded somewhat ambiguously, requiring one to read the entire thing straight through in order to get the full context. Like I said, re-reading the whole thing gives a different impression.
Note to self: Don’t read all-caps posts after midnight and/or exhausted, especially on touchy issues.
Cheers.
First of all, I empathize with what you’ve gone through. I know someone who is currently serving a prison sentence for murder and I saw what his family went through in the aftermath of the crime, so while I can’t claim to know exactly how you’re feeling, I do have a general idea of what it’s like to find out that someone you care about has done such horrible things. Likewise, I agree that the comment about you and your siblings being ‘hosed up’ was completely out of line. You seem like a good person who has gone through something horrible. Hell, I admire that fact that you’re able to admit that your dad deserves to be in prison for what he did — it’s not easy to admit that kind of thing about a person you love. Finally, I also agree that your dad’s story does demonstrate the importance of getting people the help they need after going through a traumatic event, even though it doesn’t justify the crimes that you father committed (which is another thing you’ve had the courage to admit, and I thank you for that).
That being said, I really think that it would be healthier for you to avoid searching for articles about your father’s arrest and conviction. I don’t say this is a spiteful way nor am I saying that you’re wrong to be upset that people are making assumptions about your family — I completely agree that people shouldn’t jump to harmful conclusions — but the truth of the matter is that people are going to speculate, regardless of whether it’s right or wrong. I’m saying this out of a genuine concern for you and your family, as those wounds are going to be re-opened every single time you come across an article like this one. When the individual I referenced earlier went to jail, his mom and sister spent hours reading online articles, and it only served to set them back in the grieving process.
Also, if any employer refuses to hire you based on online articles about your father, I would suggest speaking with a lawyer about a possible law suit.
Take care.
I’d like to amend my original comment, as reading this after a night of sleep has changed my perspective somewhat.
Fedup, I would suggest that you refrain from posting comments when you’re angry. I understand that this is your dad and seeing people calling him a monster is difficult, but anything you post in anger is ultimately going to end up being worded in a manor that you’ll later regret.
The truth is that your dad’s history doesn’t alleviate him of any responsibility. He may not have chosen to have violent urges, but he did choose to act on them. Yes, we should be doing everything we can as a society to prevent people from developing those impulses, but once a crime has been committed, all bets are off. He’s culpable. He IS a monster. That doesn’t mean that you’re a bad person for loving him — he’s still your dad, the man who raised you, and I suspect that the face he showed you was very different than the face he wore while killing those poor girls — but it also doesn’t mean that we have to cater to your sensitivities.
Listen dipshit — I get your “vibe” quite well. When you stated what you did about the victims of your father, you made sure to put quotes around the word — and yes, that tells me that you don’t have any sympathy for them. “VICTIMS” as if they aren’t really victims. Why, I guess they are really “chosen ones” or “lucky winners”, right? Why else would you intentionally put the quotes there, eh?
Oh, and by the way, when you want to engage in a meaningful debate or merely express your opinion,
YOU DON’T TYPE IN ALL CAPS — IT IS SHOUTING AND IT’S VERY ABRASIVE AND CHALLENGING, AND IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT, THEN YOU’VE CAN GET IT.
Now, if you want to know why no one gives a rat’s ass about your “predicament” then I’ll enlighten you. Your father is a piece of shit and he should be murdered as he has done. Don’t like my opinion? Tough shit. I’m entitled to it. You should do as much as you can to repay society for the debt your father has created INSTEAD OF SHITTING on people who are discussing crimes like your father has created. Embracing your father’s karma is a quick route to his life.
THIS IS NOT A “HATE” BLOG. Want one? I can tell you how to get to one: Google child rapists and the word “aryan” and you’ll get to one soon enough. Anyone who’s done crime research can find themselves accidentally on these sites and it doesn’t take long to realize that it’s a hate site. There is no reasoned discussion or friendly banter — it is “Did you see what this POS “insert racial category here” did to a “white – insert gender here??”
The hate sites have no problem with recruiting especially with crimes that can be segregated along racial lines. Hatred divides us more than anything else. Don’t come one here spewing hatred because the person you are angry with is your father. He didn’t only victimize others; he victimized you and your siblings. You will always love your father but you are entitled to hate him as well because he put HIS needs and desires above you, your siblings and everyone in the world. Essentially, he said, “Fuck you and fuck the world — I’ll do what I want.”
And that’s how I see your father. If you can’t face the fact that he owes everyone, especially you, then you’re never going to get out from under the puss-filled world he has created. Do what you want, but don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
And If you really want to “make a change”, then try engage some one on the real hate sites.
Let me know how that works out for ya.
Oh, and one more thing. I’ve managed to live quite a long time without your advice about what to do with my time and I’ve done quite well for myself. I think I can manage a few more years quite nicely by ignoring your pearls of wisdom.
1. You’re not okay. You’re trying to defend your raping, murdering father on a website.
2. You’re not okay, you use all capitals and ellipses as your primary form of punctuation in a rant on the internet to defend your raping, murdering father, on a website.
3. You are a survivor. You probably have your own stories to tell. They may not be about rape and murder, but they also could be about rape and murder. The only thing I blame you for is this defense. It’s weak, you know it was unnecessary, and the only reasons you could have had for it are A) a personal cry for help, trying to separate yourself from your father’s crimes. B) a personal cry for help because you fear you have urges or feelings that are disturbed by your father’s actions. C) You are not in fact his daughter, and are a troll trying to gain some attention. D) you honestly want to defend what your father did because you somehow think it was okay for him to do what he did.
I actually doubt C and D in this case, but want to keep C on the table, just in case.
Because of 1, 2, and 3, I think you need help to identify the issues with A, B and D. I’m some nearly nameless and faceless person on the internet, but the short and long of it, is that as a human being I truly and honestly want you to be alright, for good things to happen to you, and for the example of your father to never, ever be repeated, reenacted, hidden, or replicated in any way. I want the example of your father to be a wakeup call to local, state and federal authorities to strive to insure that sex offenders as dangerous as your father are never given second or in this case third and more chances to take and abuse victims.
As a concession in all of this. I don’t want your father to be alive. I don’t see how it helps you, me or anyone else that he’s still breathing. I can’t be you, can’t really know what you’re going through, but I’d find it hard not to check under my bed or inside of my closets for someone like your father, when and if I knew he was still alive and I’d actually had to meet him. I don’t think we have a good way of dealing with monsters, and despite various literary, film and movies dealing with the good of monsters, I honestly think the word is around to describe the sort of person your father is, not blue puppets who like cookies or travel through closet doors to do stand up. What your father did was horrible. You aren’t that. You aren’t that from your genes, from your fingernails, from what he may or may not have done to you or any other thing he may have touched, said or been. You are your own person. You have successfully cut away from him, I hope and are seeing a therapist, or will make the call today or tomorrow to seek help soon.
I’m not going to pray for you, I’m too far away to give you a hug, but I’m going to say this as simply as I can. I don’t hate you because of what your father did. I don’t think you’re going to do what your father did. I’m hoping you’ll never respond, and will go get that help, and that several years from now, when the capital letters, along with the capital feelings are put in their proper place, you’ll come back, say a few brief words in epilogue, and then this can be done.
Good morning, wherever you are.
FEDUP, I’m guessing you’re between 20-24 years old since your dad was married to your mom from 1986-1990. What are YOU doing, (as you stated in your post) to: “HELP THESE PEOPLE GET TO THE ROOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS, IDENTIFY THEM EARLY HEAD ON.” Are you going to school to study psychiatry or any other field that will accomplish the goal you are telling others to do? Are you working with abused children? If my father had committed the demonic acts your father did, I would want somehow to give back to the world all of the good I possibly could. Posting on websites in a pathetic attempt to defend your dad will not accomplish the goal of “LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.” It will only connect you with him more.
As you all know I’m a great believer in karma, and having one of our ‘underworld bosses’ killed in jail yesterday, all good things come to those who wait…..:)
What is pissing me of though, there (well here in aust) their all sad about his daughter (been revealed that our government was paying her school fees and will continue to do so) 6 hours after this was printed and was watched on the t.v he was bashed to death in prison yard, after he lay dying for 25 minutes with no guards in one of the toughest jails here. (no sussness there….not even a little…)
3 years he had served for having killed/had killed 3 people this pratt took his daughter to one of the shootings, and yes I know she didn’t wish to go, I’m not that stupid, Don’t all go hating me for not feeling all that sorry for her besides losing her father or the mother, it’s just annoying that after what he did, their the poor ‘family left behind’ crap I hope this makes sense as I don’t want to sound too much like a callous bitch, because I’m usually not.
They are going to be very rich soon (or should that be richer) now due to everyone suing everyone!!! like for fuck sake are you kidding me??
I know what you mean. We were supposed to suck it up and feel bad for Clifford Olsen’s wife and baby — he conned the RCMP and government into giving him $10,000 per child’s body he revealed and the money went to his wife and kid. He revealed 10 bodies and threw in an “extra one for free” — his words. Then he had the nerve to tell them that he could reveal a dozen more!!!!
And when the public freaked because of the deal, they were all like, well, think about his poor wife and child, they need $$. Um, well what about the dozens of families who are now without their son or daughter because this POS murdered them? Are they getting $10,000 for their loss? No? Are they getting anything? Even $5?
No? Well, tell me again how giving the man who murdered their child $10,000 is justice? And why am I supposed to give a rat’s ass about his family when he took the actions he did and deprived them of his presence and earning ability by murdering innocents?? He obviously didn’t give a rat’s ass about his wife and kid or he wouldn’t have been doing illegal actions.
And is it true that Australia’s childrens services is as bad as Canada’s? I read an article about a 12 y.o. rape victim who didn’t want to testify in front of her attacker and the judge grilled her and told her she’d have to; she tried to kill herself when she couldn’t testify and the judge threw the case against the rapist out. It sounds like Australia inherited the same poor system of justice from Britain that Canada’s stuck with.
The wife is a bitch for having accepting the money, but you can hardly blame the baby for any of that.
No, don’t blame any baby for their parents. It’s sort of like a crapshoot for kids when they get born. They can have saints for parents and turn out as shits, or they can have shits for parents and turn out to be saints themselves. :) Sort of like the luck of the draw.
However, in Olsen’s case, unless the wife was honest with her kids, then the kids would grow up exactly like him. And that would be a waste of a life. Olsen is currently planning to sue the federal government as the government has been working to enact legislation to prevent murderers from collecting from the federal social security net (old age pension etc). And we, the Canadian taxpayers, will have to foot the bill for his legal costs. Sometimes, it makes me want to be a renegade and nix the paying of the taxes and obeying the laws.
Yeah, Olsen and his wife are scum. I’m not comfortable making the assumption that the kids will grow up to become assholes, but I do have concerns for how they’ll turn out. One can only hope that they overcome having complete fuckshits for parents.
Her father being a piece of shit doesn’t justify not having empathy for the kid. Love — especially for an immediate family member — isn’t something you can turn on and off. It’s not like she chose to have a murdering scumbag for a father, and her grief over losing someone she loves is every bit as profound as that of his victims’ families, given that she’s basically facing the same situation they went through (i.e., a family member being murdered). Like I said, she didn’t choose to be his daughter and she didn’t choose to love her dad; she’s an innocent victim of a really horrible situation.
While I do feel sorry that she has to read all of these horrible things, the fact of the matter is that she wouldn’t have to if it wasn’t for her father. Coupled with the fact that no one is forcing her to search out her father’s name online and read everything that is written about him.
Continuously seeking out these blogs to defend her father is only bringing herself needless misery and wasting her time. While I can empathize with her feeling attacked along with her father, she needs to realize that what her father did angered and enraged a lot of people. To defend him to each one will do nothing more than wear her down, when she could be spending this time trying to heal her own emotions, rather than changing those of people she doesn’t even know.
Again, I wasn’t commenting on fedup. Read justjaney’s post, and you’ll see who I was referring to.
And to re-iterate, IF she had not come on here with her attitude of “you’re all to blame — not me or my dad” then I may have not bothered with my opinion.
I truly think it is noble that you and others can generate empathy for her. Kudos to those who can feel that. I cannot. I don’t criticize people for feeling empathy, and I certainly do not feel like people should criticize or castigate me for not feeling any empathy.
I have (*and always will*) feel for the victim and the survivors. I make the distinction when the perp’s family and friends do. She clearly delineated her position and drew the line in the sand. She and her family and her father on one side, the rest of the world on the other. I will not excuse her fanaticism nor will I chalk it up to youth or inexperience. I have lived a long time without taking the advice of ass-hats. If anyone cares to read my first response, then you will see that I suggest that the person Fedup decides that she’s better off without her father and his evil karma. She’s ranting on the wrong people. No one here made the decision to rape and murder.
Her father is the one with the choices made and the consequences drawn. Not her or her family. She should move away from him. Until that happens, she’s going to be pissing at the wrong people and she won’t move forward in any type of healing of her psyche. As I stated, she and her siblings are also her father’s victims.
Bottom line: terapon dang adhahn is a murdering rapist pedo who should be worm food.
I am comfortable with my opinions and my life. If it offends people to read my rants, then I suggest skipping my posts. I have never pretended to be anything other than honest and forthright. I never plan to couch my words and phrases so that I don’t offend anyone.
Last time I checked I was entitled to feel whatever I felt like and to state my opinions in an open forum.
Max can always let me know if I’m no longer welcome.
agreed.
The whole point of the comments section is to leave your opinion. If weren’t supposed to be doing that, the section wouldn’t exist.
And BudgieGirl, I like that you speak your mind…I like that you don’t hold back. You’re a lot like me in that way.
I wasn’t referring to fedup in the post you replied to, I was commenting on the daughter of the Australia mobster whom justjaney mentioned. I probably should have made that clearer.
At any rate, I don’t blame you for having difficulty generating empathy for family members who attempt to excuse their loved ones crimes. It’s very difficult to empathize with someone under those circumstances.
*Australian
Also, I never suggested that you didn’t have the right to express your opinion. I apologize if you got that impression.
Oh, okay. Yes, I did think it was in reference to my post on Fedup. I know that I’m not one to hold the popular view and I really mean it when I say kudos to people who can feel empathy for all parties concerned. I’m just not that good inside that I can empathize with all human beings. I know it’s a shortcoming, but I don’t wear it like a badge. My mother has spent many years training me to be aware of how others feel, even if I cannot imagine the emotions. I know that others are very empathetic because I just have to look at her — she is one of the few humans alive that should be nominated for sainthood and I don’t say that just because she has me to contend with. She embodies all of the honourable qualities that make some human beings great people to know — smart, intelligent, perceptive, intuitive, empathetic, wise and she lives to an old fashioned moral code that I have tried to match in my life.
And, as she notes, I am quick to anticipate trouble, even when there isn’t any. :-)
And, to be honest, I didn’t like the tone she (Fedup) took with everyone in this web site. I get rather defensive with the community here because family and friends of ass-hats seem to be drawn here like moths to a flame and they really must believe that they are going to sway everyone to their viewpoint. Like once they email us we’re all going to go, “Yep, that’s it. We’re done. Let’s call it a day. We were wrong. This guy’s innocent.” :-D
I’d be one heck of an overprotective mother given how I am always leaping to defend friends wherever they may be. Internet, neighbourhood, home. One troll accused PYSIH’ers as being cliquey, and while this community isn’t, there is a sense of common purpose here that I feel compelled to protect.
I know that sounds strange, but I’m okay with being strange.
Fedup– No one owes you anything and the BIG PICTURE is he raped and murdered women and girls. HE should have got the death penalty. Why aren’t you smart enough to change your name and leave the state- start a new life?
IF THERE’S EVER A CASE FOR THE DEATH PENALTY, THIS MUST SURELY BE IT. EVIL, SICK, SELFISH, CRUEL SCUM. BEST OFF DEAD.